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Opinion Wanted: Is it still worth it to start playing WoW? Or shud I just look for something else?
ikue
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I'm a big mmorpg fan, but could not play WoW when it was first released due to an insufficient computer. I just purchased a new computer and have the opportunity to play a wide range of mmorpgs w/ 1 gig ram, 7300GT nvidia gfx, etc. Should I start playing WoW or should I put my time towards finding a better "newer" mmorpg. Since its been 3 years since WoW's release, I figured its pretty much declining slowly now. So I just wanted your opinion. Thanks 
Edit: by the way, my comp specs are:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (2.1 ghz)
GeForce FX 7300GT
1 Gig DDR II SDRAM
so while my comp is not really high end, its much better than what I used to have. so if you have any recommendations for games that are fairly new that my comp can handle, feel free to shout em out. Appreciate it, thanks.
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Well you could still play wow it wont decline for a long time yet but you will always be playing catch up,With a few MMo`s to be released early next year maybe best to wait and choose 1 of them and start on a level playing field,There are quite a few on this forum who are without a MMo atm and looking to these new title`s and we can only hope they match our expectation`s.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Judging by recent numbers, complaints about queues and activity reports from friends I'd say WoW is anything but declining in numbers at the moment. At least in Europe.
And with that shiny new expansion coming up "when it's ready" the level cap will be upped to 80. Just make it to 65-70 before then and you're pretty much on par with everybody else when it releases.
Or you could go for the newer titles; Vanguard, LotRO, Tabula Rasa. Or wait for Conan, PotBS and Warhammer.
Personally I'd give WoW a try. If you don't like it you'll at least have a good base of comparison with the majority of the MMOG community and be able to discuss which game would fit for you.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
id would play it. just don't let yourself get caught up in what everyone else is doing/has done etc.
its a great game pve, and alot better than it was pvp as well. go to the wow guild forums, theres always people starting up 'reroll' guilds..try to make friends with one of them let them know your situation, you can start at lvl 1 with all of them and they can show you the ropes on the way up.
Im currently a vanguard fan but will will always be my favorite mmorpg people can disagree. WoW has many epic moments for me i love WOW, and trust me its not going anywhere any time soon, if you want a great server PVP id go twisting nether.
PVE go area 51
Hmmm. Cannot imagine the computer you USED to have if it could not play WoW when it launched.
However, WoW is not declining.
There are servers so full that you are not allowed to create a new character on them if you do not already have one there.
Free server transfers off some of the packed servers are being provide.
So, you can have any population density you like: Low, Medium, High, or just about to go Locked.
WoW is still in full swing. I would recommend a Medium or High pop server.
That way you can Solo or Group, as you like, whenever you like.
If WoW is not to your taste, try LoTRO. It is also going strong.
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I think you should be ok. There are plenty of people who are new, leveling alts, etc so there are plenty of lower lvl players.
Also, WoW is a fairly easy game to level in so you won't have too much trouble catching up. If you get yourself into a good guild (or clan or whatever they call it) then that could also help.
Other than that, it's an easy game to get into so you will fine.
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I think you should be ok. There are plenty of people who are new, leveling alts, etc so there are plenty of lower lvl players.
Also, WoW is a fairly easy game to level in so you won't have too much trouble catching up. If you get yourself into a good guild (or clan or whatever they call it) then that could also help.
Other than that, it's an easy game to get into so you will fine.
Thought I better add more to my 1st comment,You will always be playing catch up if you want to experience the end game,Yes it doesnt take long to get to lvl 70 but you will then need the gear for any end game guild to except you,Which can take a bit of time and as someone else posted the new expansion will be out next year the problem there is depending on the class you play it will have the same raid numbers for instance runs so many end game guilds again wont recruit in this time as they have the numbers already,Unless you are really good at your class and infact if your class is needed it will be hard to get into an already built end game guild,On the other hand if you dont care about the end game content and just want to enjoy the game you will have no problem as WOW wont be going anywhere for a long time.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Kind of a rule of thumb when playing an MMO that's been out for a while, you may not find very many true Newbies like yourself who are 'experiencing' the game. What I mean is most of the lower level characters are most likely alts.
People playing these alts most likely have their characters twinked, are skipping quest, aren't doing trade skills and are most likely power leveling (in general). This isn't a bad thing, however some newer players may want to smell the roses and take the game in. It really depends on what type of player you are.
Personally, I'm a 'casual' player so I typically try to get in at ground floor (new release) so that I can take in the game as there is a good market (vendors, auction house with a stable economy), great trade skill capabilities, people are grouping for quest and character development is more prominent than just PLing an alt.
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On the 'Catch-Up' issue.
It used to be true (Before Burning Crusade) that the End-Game was all about Raiding and Gearing. However, with Burning Crusade, that all changed.
The End-Game is now focused on PvP. All the Post-60 quests yield PvP gear (and it is better than any 'Old-World' Raid Gear!). Same with the Drops.
Raids have been reduced to 25 man max size. So it is MUCH easier to form up Guild and even PuG Raids.
Overall, it is a much friendlier End-Game than before. You will find plenty of Guilds to join on your way to 70 that want you so they can start working the BC End-Game content. And you will NOT have to do any of the Old-World Raiding because by the time you hit 70, you will be better geared anyway.
So, it is now a different game in WoW at the End-Game point.
No worries about 'Catching Up'.
This is so wrong on many levels "end game is now focused on PVP"and "all post 60 quests yield pvp gear"
not sure how much "end game"you have done but I seen alot of applicants turned away from my old guild as there gear was only pvp (and that is lvl 70 pvp rewards) and even more than were turned away becuase there gear"wasnt even good enough for kara"and not sure but I aint tried many pugs to SSC you could pug kara but after that unless it was a joint guild run(maybe 2 or 3 guilds) I wouldnt be pugging even gruul or maggy.
Sorry I have to ask how is wow`s end game now focused on pvp?
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
I say go for it. You can buy just the 1st box (not Burning Crusade expansion) for about $20, then see if you like it enough to subscribe or upgrade to the expansion later (which has two new races and starter areas, but mostly begins at level 58.) Seems there are plenty of low level characters from 1-30, but it thins out in the 31-57 range. Then at 58 many people are buzzing around the expansion areas. System requirements are pretty low, so you'd be fine.
Caveat: the game definitely doesn't feel like it's dying, only "matured" (can I use that word in reference to wow?) But, I suspect even with the expansion due out at an indefinite time, unless the soon-to-be-released titles really flop, a substantial number of people will jumping to newer games, so things may change right as you hit 70. But if you have fun with it while it lasts, who cares.
This is so wrong on many levels "end game is now focused on PVP"and "all post 60 quests yield pvp gear"
not sure how much "end game"you have done but I seen alot of applicants turned away from my old guild as there gear was only pvp (and that is lvl 70 pvp rewards) and even more than were turned away becuase there gear"wasnt even good enough for kara"and not sure but I aint tried many pugs to SSC you could pug kara but after that unless it was a joint guild run(maybe 2 or 3 guilds) I wouldnt be pugging even gruul or maggy.
Sorry I have to ask how is wow`s end game now focused on pvp?
Have you not noticed that just about every quest reward and every drop in outlands has Stamina on it? Even the rewards specifically targeted to Warlocks and Priests. What does a Holy Priest targeted for Raid Healing need with Stamina? There is PvP in every area in Outlands. PvP quests abound. Sure, you can still focus on simply PvE, but that is not the main focus of BC End-Game content.I have NO doubt that some of the old, snooty raiding guilds from before BC are still acting in their anti-social ways. Quite frankly, I never had much use for those sorts of people anyway. I was in a guild like that. They went the way of 'Non-Leets Need Not Apply' when they started doing Ony. Big drama over who got what loot and how the DKP were distributed. Blech!
So, to the OP, don't worry about having to Catch Up to be able to 'play' with THESE sorts of folks. There is more than enough content to keep you going for a year or two. And there are lots of friendly guilds with mature folks that will extend a helping hand to the new players.
This is so wrong on many levels "end game is now focused on PVP"and "all post 60 quests yield pvp gear"
not sure how much "end game"you have done but I seen alot of applicants turned away from my old guild as there gear was only pvp (and that is lvl 70 pvp rewards) and even more than were turned away becuase there gear"wasnt even good enough for kara"and not sure but I aint tried many pugs to SSC you could pug kara but after that unless it was a joint guild run(maybe 2 or 3 guilds) I wouldnt be pugging even gruul or maggy.
Sorry I have to ask how is wow`s end game now focused on pvp?
Have you not noticed that just about every quest reward and every drop in outlands has Stamina on it? Even the rewards specifically targeted to Warlocks and Priests. What does a Holy Priest targeted for Raid Healing need with Stamina? There is PvP in every area in Outlands. PvP quests abound. Sure, you can still focus on simply PvE, but that is not the main focus of BC End-Game content.I have NO doubt that some of the old, snooty raiding guilds from before BC are still acting in their anti-social ways. Quite frankly, I never had much use for those sorts of people anyway. I was in a guild like that. They went the way of 'Non-Leets Need Not Apply' when they started doing Ony. Big drama over who got what loot and how the DKP were distributed. Blech!
So, to the OP, don't worry about having to Catch Up to be able to 'play' with THESE sorts of folks. There is more than enough content to keep you going for a year or two. And there are lots of friendly guilds with mature folks that will extend a helping hand to the new players.
Yes I was a holy priest in a very very friendly adult only guild and yes holy priests do need stamina in end game raids(I take it you never played 1)just of the top of my head the cave ins on gruul when they gathered in power for every growl he moved up or the throw backs he used when you would take some dmg even if you were quick to run sometimes a priest with only 6.5k health would struggle even having food and buffs added to this but with some +stam gear could maybe help them,There is noway wow end game is going to pvp if you think this then maybe you just enjoy pvp and like to think it is.
I take it you still think a priest just needs int,spirit and +healing as they stand at that back so no need for stam what a joke.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
thanks 4 all the replies everyone, appreciate it
. i'll prob try the game out then and see how it is. Do you recommend playing on a PvE or PvP server to experience the most enjoyment? =/
it really depends m8 what you enjoy more,The likes of stranglethorn vale(around lvl 30-40 area) can be tough on a pvp server as there is a horde and allaince base there but if you enjoy that sort of thing it can be fun,Though if you enjoy to quest without the worry of being killed by another player just as you kill a lets say a tiger and you had only 10% health left and a tauren comes and 1hits you then you are dead if you dont want the added worry of this then go for a pve server
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Uh, that's such a loaded question. I think "you" need to make that decision.
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This is so wrong on many levels "end game is now focused on PVP"and "all post 60 quests yield pvp gear"
not sure how much "end game"you have done but I seen alot of applicants turned away from my old guild as there gear was only pvp (and that is lvl 70 pvp rewards) and even more than were turned away becuase there gear"wasnt even good enough for kara"and not sure but I aint tried many pugs to SSC you could pug kara but after that unless it was a joint guild run(maybe 2 or 3 guilds) I wouldnt be pugging even gruul or maggy.
Sorry I have to ask how is wow`s end game now focused on pvp?
Have you not noticed that just about every quest reward and every drop in outlands has Stamina on it? Even the rewards specifically targeted to Warlocks and Priests. What does a Holy Priest targeted for Raid Healing need with Stamina? There is PvP in every area in Outlands. PvP quests abound. Sure, you can still focus on simply PvE, but that is not the main focus of BC End-Game content.I have NO doubt that some of the old, snooty raiding guilds from before BC are still acting in their anti-social ways. Quite frankly, I never had much use for those sorts of people anyway. I was in a guild like that. They went the way of 'Non-Leets Need Not Apply' when they started doing Ony. Big drama over who got what loot and how the DKP were distributed. Blech!
So, to the OP, don't worry about having to Catch Up to be able to 'play' with THESE sorts of folks. There is more than enough content to keep you going for a year or two. And there are lots of friendly guilds with mature folks that will extend a helping hand to the new players.
In my opinion Shoal's analysis here is why you shouldn't bother with WoW.Not because its right or wrong, but because the sole reason he thinks this gear is PvP based is all the stamina on it. And that is by no means an offbase analysis when it comes to WoW.
That is the things with WoW, its quite one dimensional. And I think this is a good example that showcases that.
You couldn't even begin to have a discussion like that in Guild Wars for PvP. There are so many contingencies and counters and alternate builds people would just be like "Um ok sure, that will work sometimes.".
In WoW its de rigeur, get some gear with a bunch of stamina if you are gonna PvP. Farm resist gear if you are gonna raid. Etc. Sigh. That is all the game is; get two stats depending on class and role.
Sorry i am begining to sound like a fanboi here but i aint.Dont even play anymore,Get stam gear for pvp or get resist gear for pve just aint right,WOW has more lvls than that,There are some points you wont need any resist gear but stamina(i can only talk as a holy priest)alot of coments made here say stam is for pvp,That is crap either they havent pve`d or just troll for fun,WOW can be a fun game and to a point can be a great MMO but it is simplistic and you will learn your roll quite quickly in a true end game guild,Though it wil require some skill and depending on your past in MMo`s maybe to easy to very hard,If you wish to try then go for the free trail if you really want end game on wow then learn your class and work hard,My own opinion is maybe wait for the new games and start on a level playing field,If you cant wait you can do alot worse than WOW.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
I just finished my 3rd resub to the game a month ago. The game is filled with people in every zone. There's no reason for you to not play.
I would say try it - but you will do lots of soloing early on. It's not declining it's just that most people will be high level, but this is the case with most MMOs right now.
I don't think so. I had to beat off the random group invites with a stick while leveling up a few new characters. Maybe it's not as populous as the old days, but there's plenty of people playing everywhere.
I am a big anti-carebear PvP fan but IMO WoW PvP servers are more hassle than they are worth. While I feel that given identical gear and level, the classes are balanced well enough, the reality is that there frequenlty are top level/top geared players ganking lowbies in world PvP. This just gets in the way of the decent PvE aspect of WoW.
On a PvE server you can always do arenas and battlegrounds where you are at least matched for character level...
There's no need to worry about your system specs - I have kitchen appliances that can run WoW. You'll be able to run WoW just fine with that machine.
WoW isn't showing any signs of decline, oddly enough. You'll be able to find plenty of people to play with - there's a steady trickle of new players, and with the changes in patch 2.3, lots of existing players are creating new characters.
If you decide to play, I suggest finding a guild of experienced players willing to give you a bit of a head start. My guild, for example, helps new players pay for their first mount, will send in high-level characters to help lowbies with quests or dungeons, and maintains a large stash of low- to mid-level magic items to help outfit lower-level characters.
I don't think so. I had to beat off the random group invites with a stick while leveling up a few new characters. Maybe it's not as populous as the old days, but there's plenty of people playing everywhere.
Those random group invites....
Those are Gold Sellers just trying to sucker you into listening to their pitch.
Only way outside of 'Say' messages that they can spam their stuff now.
I like to just leave their Invite Dialog up and stuck in a corner of my UI till it times out or they give up and cancel it.