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What murdered CoH.

TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130

Pwned!

and /agree 150%

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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

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  • OtlanoOtlano Member Posts: 139

    First. You accused these people of insulting people but you are doing the insulting yourself. In fact your post is an outright attack.

    I don't know of the incident with the Tripmine power but the people I have seen here are defending the game from false criticism. People's complaints here are about things that all games have. They say the game is just level grinding when all the other games are worse level grinding. At least CoH had missions that put your character in a story and actually give you a reason to be fighting stuff unlike other where you just kill stuff. They complain there isn't crafting in the game but to me crafting in all the other games suck. Those are the worst grind of anything. How can you call standing in front of a forge/anvil/oven/whatever, put ingrediants in object, press combine/craft/whatever, rinse and repeat(CoH detractor's favorite saying) is content? Every game I played that had crafting I tried it and I got so freaking bored that it felt like a job. Why would I want to pay to work?

    Thats all the complaining I see here. This stuff can just be turned around on other games(most complaints is worse in other games than CoH) and most of it is a matter of opinion. These people either need to shut up with the CoH sucks or say all games suck.

    Edit: Just wanted to add, I agree there are issues that need to be fixed but then all games have issues and a lot (even ones that have been out much longer) are much worse than CoH.

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42

    100% true

    Fanboys

    Allso COH's Censorship makes SOE look Good.

    Anyone trying to inprove the game or point out
    Simple ares of the game that realy needs inprovment
    gets Pwned. Pwned by the Staff by the fanboys with
    blinders on there eyes.

    COH could have been good. I left 3weeks into the first month.
    Wrote the devs explaning the problems.
    Letters Back from them A Big FU! COH would have been
    great..Just poor staffing.

    -------Rob--------

  • SkylessSkyless Member Posts: 58

    Warstrike has grossly exagerated his claims. First and foremost, CoH still has a very robust player base that isn't going anywhere. It's the first casual gamer friendly MMO and that attracts a lot of people. I would like to know where you're getting numbers, Warstrike. Servers still consistantly hit heavy server load daily, you can see this ingame at peak hours.

    I'm sure you would like to scream doom and gloom, but CoH has a lot of steam will continue to roll. Not to mention that their devs have been very responsive and supportive of their community, they know how to keep their game alive. Yeah, the game is light on actual content, but they are working on. And right now they have a pretty good product on the market that has sold very well. They do have over 100,000 subscribers as cited by Gamespy. So CoH can't be near as dead as you think it is. CoH is succeeding, even if you hate some of the player base.

    I myself have been critical of CoH, even on these forums. But I also realize that CoH is a very successful game and that even though I may not like it all the time, a lot of other people do.

  • bverjibverji Member UncommonPosts: 722

    While I agree with the general sentiment about much of the community being fanbois that stick their head in the sand (it was far worse before the games release). However, if you read the COH boards there are many who are advocating change/balance (myself included) and the devs have been very active in researching their concerns and reporting their findings to the community through the COH boards. The game is far from perfect, but it is far more workable, balanced and complete then any game I have played or heard about upon release (or three months after release). the devs and producers show more concern, interaction, respect for their customers then any other gaming company I have experienced by an astronomical multiplier, not even compairable to other MMOG companies. This commitment shown by the devs promises  that the game will only get better.

    Wile certainly after the intial month there is going to be a drop off of subscribers (this is true about all MMOGs) the servers are still pact, you can't go to any zone and not see other heroes. Your acusation that the servers are haklf full and are decrerasing at some incredible rate is completely unfounded and obviously not true just by logging in and exploring for 10 minutes.

    However, I am sorry that you have been diappointed with your experience thus far and suggest you exercise a little patience because your experience with any other game will most likely be worse. If need be maybe take a break for 5-8 months and see if things are better for you (the game has large updates every 3 months).

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42


    Originally posted by bverji
    While I agree with the general sentiment about much of the community being fanbois that stick their head in the sand (it was far worse before the games release). However, if you read the COH boards there are many who are advocating change/balance (myself included) and the devs have been very active in researching their concerns and reporting their findings to the community through the COH boards. The game is far from perfect, but it is far more workable, balanced and complete then any game I have played or heard about upon release (or three months after release). the devs and producers show more concern, interaction, respect for their customers then any other gaming company I have experienced by an astronomical multiplier, not even compairable to other MMOG companies. This commitment shown by the devs promises  that the game will only get better.
    Wile certainly after the intial month there is going to be a drop off of subscribers (this is true about all MMOGs) the servers are still pact, you can't go to any zone and not see other heroes. Your acusation that the servers are haklf full and are decrerasing at some incredible rate is completely unfounded and obviously not true just by logging in and exploring for 10 minutes.
    However, I am sorry that you have been diappointed with your experience thus far and suggest you exercise a little patience because your experience with any other game will most likely be worse. If need be maybe take a break for 5-8 months and see if things are better for you (the game has large updates every 3 months).

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  • bverjibverji Member UncommonPosts: 722
    Even if I did, which I do not, it makes my points no less valid. I have said nothing that the majority of people on these boards haven't supported. However, I do notice you happen to register for these boards just in time to support this thread...hummm curious. Maybe I'm not the one with an agenda.
  • AdR3NaLiNAdR3NaLiN Member Posts: 13
    Incorrect.

    Darkness is forever...

    Darkness is forever...

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42



    Originally posted by bverji
    Even if I did, which I do not, it makes my points no less valid. I have said nothing that the majority of people on these boards haven't supported. However, I do notice you happen to register for these boards just in time to support this thread...hummm curious. Maybe I'm not the one with an agenda.


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  • SkylessSkyless Member Posts: 58



    Originally posted by Rob101

     Snif snif  I SMELL FANBOY!  image




    And I believe I see a troll. You're not offering anything constructive other than jumping on the 'doom and gloom' band wagon.

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42



    Originally posted by Skyless






    Originally posted by Rob101
     Snif snif  I SMELL FANBOY!  image



    And I believe I see a troll. You're not offering anything constructive other than jumping on the 'doom and gloom' band wagon.





    Please Brainless  Everyone knows your the same person.. Go talk to yourself  FANBOY!image

  • OtlanoOtlano Member Posts: 139


    Originally posted by Rob101
    100% trueFanboysAllso COH's Censorship makes SOE look Good.Anyone trying to inprove the game or point out
    Simple ares of the game that realy needs inprovment
    gets Pwned. Pwned by the Staff by the fanboys with
    blinders on there eyes.COH could have been good. I left 3weeks into the first month.
    Wrote the devs explaning the problems.
    Letters Back from them A Big FU! COH would have been
    great..Just poor staffing.-------Rob--------

    You are so full of it. CoH has been responding to the issues. The major problems, which I agreed with, are being addressed which is unbalancing of characters concering the fire tankers and blasters. They have been nerfing both so they are not so overpowered. Real issues are not getting blinded by anybody. What people are argueing against is the criticism that can be used against any other mmorpg out there.

    Rob101, you have always been a troll and will always be. You make up stuff just so you can make yourself look better than you really are and to try to take other people down. I don't even know why I am posting this here because most of the people here got you figured out anyway. So keep on posting your made up crap because everybody knows your posts are worth just about nil.

  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595

    Well I currently play a blaster and I must say we are not as overpowered as anyone thinks. I may be able to deal massive amounts of damage but I pay the damn price for it in debt. If I didn't team with controller, healers or tankers I would probably find myself perpetually dead. These support classes are the only thing that lets me battle large street mobs. Are there some builds of blasters that are over powered yes anythign that uses the devices skill is quite overpowered. However blasters not using it can be considered quite gimped. The problem isn't that one class is overpowered but that all the secondary's and pirmary's are not balanced. Frankly I find the way everything is now it really encourages a lot of tight team play. I may have an attack that can take out entire mobs but if I don't have a defender or enough respite I'll be lying face down on the pavement.

    Also you call alot of us Fanboy's that have nothing valuable to contribute. But There has been a vaste amount of false criticism about this game such as no crafting. Most super hero's do not craft and frankly doesn't really have a place in a super hero world. Crafting tends to occur not all that often. Having some sort of limited crafting to maybe create special powers that would be temporary would be quite good and cryptic is currently working on some form of crafting that will be appropriate to the game.

    Coh Has it's faults but it also has a lot of great stuff also. I'm always playing and seeing the servers hit highloads during the peak hours. I don't see how you can say that Fanboy's have murdered CoH when the game is just over 2 months old and has been making a lot of progress so far compared to many other games. At around the same time.

    I play a fire/elec blaster and an earth/ff controller. My controller may not be able to do much damage but people love to party up with me because I make it incredibly easy and safe for them to kill due to the current build. Each class has it's roll and excels in one area over another. I think that's part of the beauty of this game.

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42

    Ahhh hahahaha  Im Swimming in FanBoy Slime  There everywhere  Ahhhahahahahah

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  • CthulhuvongCthulhuvong Member UncommonPosts: 433

    I usually don't post here for fear of being called a troll. I have never played this game and so I don't need to share my opinion here. But I feel I need to address Rob's comments.

    You sir, need to shut up. You have nothing constructive to say, you have said your opinion, so just stop posting. Over on the Galaxies boards we used to have a problem with trolls like you, and to some extent we still do. You have no points left, and so you resort to name calling. They have acctual points to argue with, you just call them names. If you have nothing more to contribute, please shut up and stop posting. 

    Sorry for disrupting your discussion on fanboys, please continue.

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    Everquest (not a power gamer)
    Earth and Beyond (kinda fun, kinda boring)
    Planetside (rather play Counter-Strike)
    Lineage 2 (see Everquest above, plus too many PKers and Bots)
    Guild Wars [E3 trial] (Not too bad from what I saw, nothing very new though)
    Eve Online (somewhat fun, somewhat repetetive)

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  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130

    I was an memeber of COH forum since about Dec of 02.. I cant tell you how much of a dissapointment this game was to me... I also cant tell you how much the Devs where as well... We told them Time and time agian during beta that this was overpowerd or that was gimped... That this needed more content or that needed to be scraped but in true dev fashion we were ignored... Mainly I believe because you had your fanbois that where screaming the opposite of what we were saying... NO the blaster is fine leave it like it is... just an example..

    All I can say for the people that think the game is not losing subs lol keep kidding yourself... Trust me when WOW, EQ2, FOM, DE, GW and others come out (which is very soon) COH will be a Ghost town... Its a filler game for many now, nothing more...This game had so much potential but ala a Horizons it failed, just not as bad... but it still failed.

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42



    Originally posted by Cthulhuvong

    I usually don't post here for fear of being called a troll. I have never played this game and so I don't need to share my opinion here. But I feel I need to address Rob's comments.
    You sir, need to shut up. You have nothing constructive to say, you have said your opinion, so just stop posting. Over on the Galaxies boards we used to have a problem with trolls like you, and to some extent we still do. You have no points left, and so you resort to name calling. They have acctual points to argue with, you just call them names. If you have nothing more to contribute, please shut up and stop posting. 
    Sorry for disrupting your discussion on fanboys, please continue.

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    Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server)
    Games Tried:
    Everquest (not a power gamer)
    Earth and Beyond (kinda fun, kinda boring)
    Planetside (rather play Counter-Strike)
    Lineage 2 (see Everquest above, plus too many PKers and Bots)
    Guild Wars [E3 trial] (Not too bad from what I saw, nothing very new though)
    Eve Online (somewhat fun, somewhat repetetive)



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  • SkylessSkyless Member Posts: 58



    Originally posted by Rob101

    Please Brainless  Everyone knows your the same person.. Go talk to yourself  FANBOY!image


     
    I'm sorry that we've offered comments that you can't seem to rebuke intelligently and are forced to revert to your fanboy mantra. You have my deepest sympathies that you lack the cognitive functions to formulate a decent reply. Perhaps they've got another seat for you back in 1st grade because certainly your level of maturity shows you belong there.

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42



    Originally posted by Skyless



    Originally posted by Rob101

    Please Brainless  Everyone knows your the same person.. Go talk to yourself  FANBOY!image


     
    I'm sorry that we've offered comments that you can't seem to rebuke intelligently and are forced to revert to your fanboy mantra. You have my deepest sympathies that you lack the cognitive functions to formulate a decent reply. Perhaps they've got another seat for you back in 1st grade because certainly your level of maturity shows you belong there.



    heheh   So tell me Brainless is this your 5th or 6th MMORPG.com Char. We all know you have aleast 4.

    We all know you like to talk to your self.  FANBOY! imageimageimageimageimageimage

  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595
    Actually most of the CoH subscriber base are not MMORPG gamers like everyone seems to think. There will probably be a drop in subscription rate but I guarantee you it will be negligible at best. Most of the players I play with this is there first MMORPG. They love comic books etc. The mmorpg gamers that come from other games are largely in the minority on CoH. Also those that are still there love teh game for it's simplicity.

  • CreativeNameCreativeName Member Posts: 47



    Originally posted by Rob101
    heheh   So tell me Brainless is this your 5th or 6th MMORPG.com Char. We all know you have aleast 4.
    We all know you like to talk to your self.  FANBOY! imageimageimageimageimageimage




       I'll be frank with you. Shut up. I respect your love for the word 'Fanboy', and complete infatuation with the word 'Fanboy' coupled with the CAPS LOCK key, but please. You're getting out of hand here.

    This is CreativeName's fancy schmancy sig. Let the 'ooh'ing and 'ahh'ing commence... Now.

    This is CreativeName's fancy schmancy sig. Let the 'ooh'ing and 'ahh'ing commence... Now.

  • Rob101Rob101 Member Posts: 42



    Originally posted by CreativeName



    Originally posted by Rob101
    heheh   So tell me Brainless is this your 5th or 6th MMORPG.com Char. We all know you have aleast 4.
    We all know you like to talk to your self.  FANBOY! imageimageimageimageimageimage



       I'll be frank with you. Shut up. I respect your love for the word 'Fanboy', and complete infatuation with the word 'Fanboy' coupled with the CAPS LOCK key, but please. You're getting out of hand here.


    This is CreativeName's fancy schmancy sig. Let the 'ooh'ing and 'ahh'ing commence... Now.



    AAAAHAHAHAH   There comming out of the woodwork  Its Raining  FANBOYS!  imageimageimageimage

  • SkaelSkael Member Posts: 115

    Hey, fanboys aren't all bad in the right situation. In Shadowbane and Asheron's Call 2, the only people left playing are the fanboys. And since there is such good interaction between the players and the devs, and the devs actually LISTEN to the players, the games are still alive, low as their populations may be. It's okay to be that dedicated to a game, but when you have people who are so obsessed that their ideas are counterproductive to the game's progress, the game doesn't go anywhere.

    I could kind of tell that the CoH players were not typical MMORPGers. If you whipped out MMORPG jargon like PBAoE DoT, root, add, etc. most people didn't seem to know what you were talking about, at least in my experience.

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  • VindvalyaVindvalya Member Posts: 115

    COH isn't dead, and there are very few people who don't realize SG and Smoke are overpowered.  the thing is there are just as many people who 1) don't care, 2) don't use SG or Smoke, 3) read the boards.

    COH is doing just fine and those that like the game, like the game.  Are there balance issues? Sure.  Has Cryptic shown willingness to address balance issues, and even be open to tone down their nerfs? YES.

    If you are so caught up in the levelling of someone else your character is ruined you need to get a life. 

  • MinoTaur3MinoTaur3 Member Posts: 64
    haha well sad image, thats the way to explain it image

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  • DameonZDameonZ Member Posts: 18

    After playing this game for a couple weeks in beta and a solid month in retail I tend to agree with the above post.  Most of the people who are still playing and will continue to play this game are people who CoH is their first MMORPG.  People that have played multiple MMORPG's seem to get tired of CoH more quickly.

    Maybe it's the next Evercrack as far as bringing people into the market?

    Heh, flame me for that all day.

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