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Is there an mmorpg like this already or do I have to major in game design and make it myself.

Calintz333Calintz333 Member UncommonPosts: 1,193

 I always wanted the same style of mmorpg, I have played so many o so many mmorpgs but none have the few little basic things I need from 1. Here is the list if you can name a mmorpg that h all of the above plz for the love of god tell me because Im sick of coming home from College doing my homework and talking on the phone for 8  hours.

#1 Not a Korean Grind Fest.- I do NOT want a game with point and click style controls and Kill fest for XP that takes many many months to level up Ala Lineage 2.

#2 Decent graphics- Just Decent By decent I mean Guild wars or up.

#3 Good in game story line with cutceans similar to those in FFXI,

#4 Battle system skill chain system similar to the one in FFXI

#5 Being able to solo perfectly.

#6 Many dungeons that change the way the map is after a few times you run it Ala Phantasy Star Universe style.

#7 Great music like FFXI or Sword of the new world.

#8 Not a hard core game'rs game The abbility to play casually and reach max level within the same time you take to get form 1-70 in WoW.

#9 Good classes that you would be proud to be playing not dorky names like Lore-Master or Burglars Like Classic Warrior, or Warlock Mage Knight Archer.

#10 Half decent PVP in a NON PK world Anything higher than FFXI's ballista would be fine.

#11 good Character customization such as in PSU

 

These are all the things I want from a mmorpg, Is it really that hard to find? Idc if it cost 30 bucks a month to play if that game is out there please tell me! IDC if its futureistic or medieval or whatever as long as it has those features. Here is a list of games I already tried and didn't really do it for me.

Sword of the new world Granado Espada (Korean Grind fest)

Lineage 2 (Korean Grind fest)

World of warcraft (Not a bad game..to cartoony no real story line or cutceans of any kind)

FFXI (Did this game for 3 year's loved it but to late to go back to it now my 2 level 75s are dead and It wouldnt be worth the work to re do them all over again)

Guild wars (Just no)

Lord of the rings online (Why are all the class names so dorky lol Other than that Just a step up from wow but nothing revolutionary or at least new)

Rapplez- Another Korean Grind fest....

Phantasy Star Universe - Decent game a grind fest but a quick grind fest 1-100 in 4 weeks of hard core play or 8 weeks of casual play. Great character customization.

So Again any game that can meet all my requirements would be nice for some one to tell me IDC if it costs alot of money If i have to join JP servers or do something really complicated its fine Just let me know if there is a MMORPG out there with all this stuff please!

 

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  • gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503

    No. Make it yourself. Although why you want an MMORPG that you can "solo perfectly" is baffling to me.

    MMORPG Maker

  • BerndrBerndr Member Posts: 185

     

    Originally posted by gillvane1


    No. Make it yourself. Although why you want an MMORPG that you can "solo perfectly" is baffling to me.
    MMORPG Maker

     

    Well I think that he is on right line and you are in wrong ..... and i will tell you why?

    1. it seems that all other mmo are copies one of the other they all look and play alike ,, why ?

    because people think like you gillvane1  .... eq1 , ac1 etc   those were pionirs so it seems all other game must have the same basic gameplay and structure .in those games people had to group so well that means  mmo .. well i think no

    2 forget the word ""MMO "" for now , what he is talking about  is this ... Imagine a massive  multyplayer game on line (in multyplayer games you mostly play solo alone or against others, its not must its your choice) where thousands of people play together ,,,,, lets call it multyplayer not mmo for the time being ...

    3. Now imagine Doom on line with 100,000 people on the same server ,,, but also imagine that in doom you can play diferent classes, races, you can craft , trade , etc; so what do you get

    a perfect solo MMO on line ,,,

    well there is nothing like that at the moment  out there yet ,,, but believe me it will happen sooner or later

  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383

    [quote]3. Now imagine Doom on line with 100,000 people on the same server ,,, but also imagine that in doom you can play diferent classes, races, you can craft , trade , etc; so what do you get[/quote]

    I can imagine that, except in the new mmos you have to right click on someone and then click "Request duel" before you can shoot at them.

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  • BerndrBerndr Member Posts: 185

     

    Originally posted by JackDonkey


    [quote]3. Now imagine Doom on line with 100,000 people on the same server ,,, but also imagine that in doom you can play diferent classes, races, you can craft , trade , etc; so what do you get[/quote]
    I can imagine that, except in the new mmos you have to right click on someone and then click "Request duel" before you can shoot at them.

     

     [quote]I can imagine that, except in the new mmos you have to right click on someone and then click "Request duel" before you can shoot at them.[quote]

    It looks you have been playing PVE mmos with limited pvp option that offers only duels... theres no such thing as request in eq2 (pvp server) you just attack anyone you want at any time you want as if he was NPC ,, its the same in all other  pvp mmo s ,

    and who says that soloable mmos should be PvP ? even though i think it would work better

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Originally posted by Calintz333


     I always wanted the same style of mmorpg, I have played so many o so many mmorpgs but none have the few little basic things I need from 1. Here is the list if you can name a mmorpg that h all of the above plz for the love of god tell me because Im sick of coming home from College doing my homework and talking on the phone for 8  hours.
    #1 Not a Korean Grind Fest.- I do NOT want a game with point and click style controls and Kill fest for XP that takes many many months to level up Ala Lineage 2.
    #2 Decent graphics- Just Decent By decent I mean Guild wars or up.
    #3 Good in game story line with cutceans similar to those in FFXI,
    #4 Battle system skill chain system similar to the one in FFXI
    #5 Being able to solo perfectly.
    #6 Many dungeons that change the way the map is after a few times you run it Ala Phantasy Star Universe style.
    #7 Great music like FFXI or Sword of the new world.
    #8 Not a hard core game'rs game The abbility to play casually and reach max level within the same time you take to get form 1-70 in WoW.
    #9 Good classes that you would be proud to be playing not dorky names like Lore-Master or Burglars Like Classic Warrior, or Warlock Mage Knight Archer.
    #10 Half decent PVP in a NON PK world Anything higher than FFXI's ballista would be fine.
    #11 good Character customization such as in PSU
     
    These are all the things I want from a mmorpg, Is it really that hard to find? Idc if it cost 30 bucks a month to play if that game is out there please tell me! IDC if its futureistic or medieval or whatever as long as it has those features. Here is a list of games I already tried and didn't really do it for me.
    Sword of the new world Granado Espada (Korean Grind fest)
    Lineage 2 (Korean Grind fest)
    World of warcraft (Not a bad game..to cartoony no real story line or cutceans of any kind)
    FFXI (Did this game for 3 year's loved it but to late to go back to it now my 2 level 75s are dead and It wouldnt be worth the work to re do them all over again)
    Guild wars (Just no)
    Lord of the rings online (Why are all the class names so dorky lol Other than that Just a step up from wow but nothing revolutionary or at least new)
    Rapplez- Another Korean Grind fest....
    Phantasy Star Universe - Decent game a grind fest but a quick grind fest 1-100 in 4 weeks of hard core play or 8 weeks of casual play. Great character customization.
    So Again any game that can meet all my requirements would be nice for some one to tell me IDC if it costs alot of money If i have to join JP servers or do something really complicated its fine Just let me know if there is a MMORPG out there with all this stuff please!
     
    Well since you enjoyed FFXI as did i,then you might as well do as i am and wait for square enix's next gen games.They have a brand new engine i think it was called the WHITE engine,but my shotty memory may be mistaking the name.They have a game already done or near done called NOVA crystialis and some new game that they seem to be keeping a secret.

    Until the new release comes about i will be playing anything and everything that's free to play.That way i won't feel ripped off for spending money on a mediocre effort of a game.The early scenes from the next gen SQUARE ENIX game look simply amazing/jaw dropping.SQUARE are no longer bound to making games that work on the PS2 as now they are full tilt into there next wave ,making games for PS3/xbox360 and the PC.FFXI was merely a ported game to the PC.

    From the very in depth interview i read ,done by some website on FFXI/SQUARE ENIX it looks like a promising future.In there question/answer interview it seems square has learned alot from there mistakes and hope to make there next game even better than FFXI was.

    The biggest problem right now is the media/critics.They are pushing SQUARE to answer how it will NOT alienate the FFXI players with a next gen release and if it will try to combine FFXI with it or allow player transfers.I think this is why square is keeping so much a secret,they don't want to step on anyone's toes as the critics will surely jump all over them for any direction they take.

    There is no such game on the market right now that meets all your criteria,especially since you ask it to also be solo friendly.Just wait for the in depth gameplay of a square enix game,it's a sure thing.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • Calintz333Calintz333 Member UncommonPosts: 1,193

    I guess im just going to have to wait to see What that new SE game is bringing to the race, or Aion the tower of eternity...I guess until then I am going to Keep playing phantasy star Universe. Only because it is nostalgic from PSO alot of old pso friends are there its got great graphics and character customization and best of all it s only 6 bucks a month with the payment plan I choose. So Well worth It for a wait I suppose.

  • dr2pepperdr2pepper Member UncommonPosts: 30

    Try to get into the PotBS open beta. I cant talk about it but i belive, from what you have stated, that you would enjoy this game

  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383
    Originally posted by Berndr


     
    Originally posted by JackDonkey


    [quote]3. Now imagine Doom on line with 100,000 people on the same server ,,, but also imagine that in doom you can play diferent classes, races, you can craft , trade , etc; so what do you get[/quote]
    I can imagine that, except in the new mmos you have to right click on someone and then click "Request duel" before you can shoot at them.

     

     [quote]I can imagine that, except in the new mmos you have to right click on someone and then click "Request duel" before you can shoot at them.[quote]

    It looks you have been playing PVE mmos with limited pvp option that offers only duels... theres no such thing as request in eq2 (pvp server) you just attack anyone you want at any time you want as if he was NPC ,, its the same in all other  pvp mmo s ,

    and who says that soloable mmos should be PvP ? even though i think it would work better

    i'm just saying the new mmo's coming out all seem to be consensual pvp

    image
    Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
    if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
    Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro
    if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end

  • treefittytreefitty Member Posts: 260

    yah im in potbs beta its not too shabby.. the land battles suck but the ocean battles are nice once you get past the invisible wall deal.

  • Anti-FanboiAnti-Fanboi Member Posts: 188


    Originally posted by dr2pepper
    Try to get into the PotBS open beta. I cant talk about it but i belive, from what you have stated, that you would enjoy this game

    It's not a open beta if you can't talk about it.

  • dr2pepperdr2pepper Member UncommonPosts: 30

    lol i forgot that they lifted the NDA. try it out. it has me hooked

  • gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503

    Originally posted by Berndr


     
    Originally posted by gillvane1


    No. Make it yourself. Although why you want an MMORPG that you can "solo perfectly" is baffling to me.
    MMORPG Maker

     

    Well I think that he is on right line and you are in wrong ..... and i will tell you why?

    1. it seems that all other mmo are copies one of the other they all look and play alike ,, why ?

    because people think like you gillvane1  .... eq1 , ac1 etc   those were pionirs so it seems all other game must have the same basic gameplay and structure .in those games people had to group so well that means  mmo .. well i think no

    2 forget the word ""MMO "" for now , what he is talking about  is this ... Imagine a massive  multyplayer game on line (in multyplayer games you mostly play solo alone or against others, its not must its your choice) where thousands of people play together ,,,,, lets call it multyplayer not mmo for the time being ...

    3. Now imagine Doom on line with 100,000 people on the same server ,,, but also imagine that in doom you can play diferent classes, races, you can craft , trade , etc; so what do you get

    a perfect solo MMO on line ,,,

    well there is nothing like that at the moment  out there yet ,,, but believe me it will happen sooner or later

    I don't mind if you want to play a "perfect solo" game. That's fine with me. But the only thing I like to do in MMORPGs is play in groups. If I'm not in a group, then I just wander around looking for one, or kill some random mob spawns while looking for a group. That's the only part of the game I like, so of course for me a "perfect solo" game doesn't sound like any fun at all.

     

    MMORPG Maker

  • lanrolanro Member Posts: 15

    I can recommend Anarchy Online since you are not new to mmorpgs (it's somewhat complex for beginners to mmorpgs).  It is currently FREE to download and FREE to play, with in-game ads to pay for it all, for the main content.  you can buy the expansions for additional content and pay a monthly fee if you wish (most people wait until the very high levels if they do that).

    1, grind fest?  no, i would say not in the way you are saying.  leveling is rather fast, and you have the feeling of being quite powerful in your chosen profession in a short time (you don't spend 3 days fighting rats or other minor enemies).  though most xp is from killing mobs, it is done in a way that gives variety and fun to it.

    2, decent graphics?  the graphics are pretty good (DX9 required), though it's not LOTRO.  the artwork more than makes up for the fact that they have tried to keep the system requirements somewhat low even since upgrading the engine (the game was originally released in 2001).  another upgrade is in the works, rumored to be based on the one being developed for Age of Conan, though i've heard that they'll still have minimum specs lower than AoC.

    3, good story? the story is excellent.  there's even a novel by one of the original game story writers.  I would love to see a big budget movie based on the story of this game.  no cutscenes though; all "story" elements are in-game as the basis of the conflict between the Omni-Tek mega corporation and the Clan rebels.  originally AO was going to be limited to a 5 year lifespan with monthly updates to reflect the place in the story, after which the game would ether be restarted or ended, but due to the success of the game they continued past the 5 years and added expansions.  I highly recommend reading the story items in the official website before deciding which side of the conflict to join (for roleplay purposes mostly; pvp has only minor differences between the two sides (have to be balanced of course)).

    4, battle system skill chain system?  i don't know what you mean.  i've never played FFXI (one of the very few i haven't).  AO uses a hybrid class/skill system for character development; you choose a profession (class) at character creation, but you develop your character when you level by spending skill points on skills which all professions have available.  different skills cost different amounts of skill points for different professions.  if you're referring to the gameplay during combat, the professions have different nano-technology to use, and different weapons have different abilities (burst, full-auto, sneak-attack, etc.)

    5, soloable?  yes, absolutely.  there are 200 levels in the base game and you can solo through all of them if you want.  there is a mission system which gives instanced missions based on your level, which you can adjust for difficulty when you request a mission.  there are also team missions with a boss at the end, which is more difficult and with nicer boss loot.  you don't ever have to team if you don't want, however.  some professions will have a slower time of it though (Doctors aren't skilled for killing).

    6, changing dungeons?  AO has traditional "camps" of mobs throughout the world, special boss camps called dynacamps, static dungeons shared by any who enter with unchanging maps, and instanced missions which are random maps with random mobs, and various objectives somewhat controlled by the settings you specify when you request a mission.  in the missions you get xp from killing the mobs, loot from the mobs, and xp/loot from completing the objective of the mission.  the mission instance is exclusive to you or your team, and is different every time.  (AO was the first mmo to use instancing, and still the ony one that uses it this way, I believe.)

    7, great music?  I personally think that AO beats every other mmo in this regard.  their patented music system blows everyone else away.  every zone has its own set of dynamic music, which changes based on time of day; it's dynamic in the sense that it plays the music a little differently every time, gently fading in and out, etc.  this is the only mmo that i keep the music on all the time.  combat music is also different depending on how difficult your opponent is, and whether you are winning or losing the fight, so it changes as you tip the scales to your favor or begin to slip toward death.

    8, not a hardcore game?  well, this one's kind of debatable.  as i said in the beginning, i wouldn't recommend this for people new to mmorpgs; i would send them to WoW.  the skill system, and other factors such as how damage and armor work make the game a bit complicated for beginners.  however, casual players who are familiar with mmorpgs have no problems with AO.  you can come on, grab a solo mission or two, and even gain a level or two in an hour of play; the professions are all self-sufficient enough to be able to solo, so if you don't have time to get in a group you can still get some playing in.  originally, there were only solo missions because the mission system was made for casual players, or players who want to play for a short time occasionally; they added team missions later due to player request and added a boss at the end with bonus loot.

    9, good classes with good names?  I'll let you judge that.  since AO is sci-fi based, the class names are too.  You can play Adventurer (a dual-wielding pistoleer or meleer who can heal and morph into different creatures), Agent (sneaky, sniper rifle, assasin type with rooting/snaring capability), Bureaucrat (persuasive politician with an android bodyguard;  with ability to mez and charm, the main crowd controller), Doctor (the main healer; think cleric), Enforcer (the tank, master of melee, massive hp buffs, uses nano technology to taunt), Engineer (robot combat pet, forcefields), Fixer (the shady guy that gets things done "nevermind how i did it", the hacker, what do you mean "locked" haha, submachine gun, fastest mover), Martial Artist (master of unarmed combat, critical hits, some healing, the dps), Meta-Physicist (looks deep within himself and summons his own anger into a physical form to fight as a pet, multiple pets (fighter, healer, mezzer)), Nano-Technician (nano technology is for blasting your enemies with poison or fire or radiation or ...), Soldier (assault rifles, or any gun, big forcefields help him tank almost as well as the high hp Enforcer), Trader (no, not just a crafter though he can make stuff better than anyone, mez, drains enemy's skills to buff his own, gives his own skills to buff a friend, drains hp, mez, bonus buy/sell prices at special shop terminals).  The Shadowlands expansion adds Shade (daggers, lifedrains, big damage, minimal armor, evasive) and Keeper (healing aura, 2 hand sword paladin type).

    10, pvp?  AO uses a realm vs realm type pvp.  There are two sides (three if you count neutral), Omni-Tek, the mega corporation that owns the planet and terraformed it for the purpose of mining the hell out of it; and the Clans, rebels who didn't like their living conditions and the oppression of Omni-Tek, and feel that they should have a say in how things are run since they colonized the planet.  Clans see themselves as liberators, Omni-Tek sees them as terrorists.  Neutrals just want to be left alone, and are somewhat protected by an offworld group known as the ICC (Interstellar Commerce Commission) that regulates corporations such as Omni-Tek.  Players can form organizations (guilds in AO) and claim certain territorial spots all over the world (an org can have up to 3 territories).  The territories have level range limits, and time constraints for when they are open for pvp.  When your org's territory becomes open for pvp, then anyone in that level range can attack the towers that your org has put up (towers provide buffs for orgmembers, debuffs for enemies, and do damage to enemies); if they succeed at destroying your org's control tower, then that area goes non-pvp and the victors can then install their own towers and claim the territory for their side.  The more territories your side controls, the higher xp bonus your side gets.  The AO website shows current territory control (blue=omni, red=clan, white=neutrals).  There are also areas that are open pvp similar to "normal" servers in WoW.

    11, character customization?  not sure specifically what you mean.  there are lots of options at character creation to customize your character's appearance; it was somewhat revolutionary at the time to provide so many choices, though now days some games give an almost infinite variation.  I would say you have more variety of character look than WoW or LOTRO for sure.  In-game gear is plentiful and has very different looks; AO has maybe too many player textures ;).  Though your character is fixed within his profession, the skill system gives some diversity to how you specialize your combat.  Professions do not limit what type of weapon you use, nor armor; but some professions will be better suited to certain weapons (Fixers are better at submachineguns, Adventurers are better at pistols, etc.) and your race (or breed in AO) will determine which armor "fits" you better.  So, any breed can be any profession, can wield any weapon (excluding a few profession only, or breed only items), can wear any armor; mixed with zillions of items equals big diversity.

     

    I originally didn't intend to write such a huge overview, but as I went on that's how it came out.  Keep in mind that the basic game is all you really need for a long time, and is FREE download and FREE to play (with in-game ads), so give it a try.  It'll only cost you some time.

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