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Heya, I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan (although in my own little world nothing will ever, ever beat FFVII) but got a bit wierded out when FFXI turned out to be an online title. I've seen a bunch of screenshots and a few trailers and read a whole lot, the game looks sort of OK, I'm just not completely convinced yet. I figured I'd ask you guys (assuming that a bunch of you have played the game) what it's like? Is it good, or bad, and why? Thanks for your time
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FFVII was my favorite too, followed by FFTactics, then FFVIII... and i am liking this game.
I am not going in depth with this because you could quite easily just search this forum for one of the million posts about it but lets see.
In FF games they have lots of the same monsters, just bigger versians with a slightly differant name... thats the same with this game. Although there are some new monsters, and I have not seen them all..
BUT THERE ARE TONBERRYS AND MARLBROS!
Its group based... just like every other FF where you had 2 ppl in the earlyer ones and 3 in the later... well this goes up to 6.. and after lvl 10 you basically have to group to get decent XP
This can be very annoying, but thats why you get into a LS or a STATIC PARTY where you group with the same people lots, and only promise to lvl that particular type with them sometimes.
Character Customisation is pretty poor. Well i don't give a shit about that, no FF ever had customisation before.. so any u get is a bonus. Yes lots of people like it, and it is a nice touch.. but its not neceery.
Gil can be hard to make. If your an idiot. All you have to do is collect stacks of crystals and hides and meets and you can make a mint.
Crafting is really hard to do if ur not uber rich. Had the same problem in EQ tho.
Limited solo play. Yeah other than a few quests and things this is not a solo game as I stated. Waiting for a group does get annoying, which is why its good to tradeskill and stuff whilst ur waiting.
The auction houses are brilliant. Not having to be online to sell shit!
I think the reason people don't like this game is because in alot or Respects it is too final fantasy for them. They want EQ... and they have been given and online final fantasy game and gone what the fuck.
Yes there is room for improvement. No I don't know if they will ever make solo play benificial.. even if everyone becomes a sumoner or beast master (the main solo classes)
It all comes down to want you want from a game ya know? You can make some wicked fighting buddies, and go on missions killing dragons with them and so on and soforth. But u generally have to do it in a group. And u can get some really idiotic groups, just with every game... like mages that melee and cast too often.. and people who don't know how to voke properly... but you get shit like that in any game.
I don't think EQ2 will be better, other than graphically, but I think WOW shows alot of promise. If ur a TRUE FF fan through and through i think you might like FFXI - but it is their first mmorpg, so u can't expect perfection...
Oh another good thing is your SUB JOB ability. in most games, u want to start a new class u have to start a new character.. in this you can switch and level any class you want.. well 6 to begin with and u can unlock others, and when u do the sub job quest u get the abilities to have one of ur other jobs you have been training (which can also be changed any time) as a job at a maximum of half ur main jobs lvl...
So a lvl 30 warriors sub would be mb a lvl 15mnk.. but if the mnk was actually 18... when the war hit 32 the mnk would automatically be 16.
Now some people are all about having just one character one class.. this game isn't for them... they need an EQ style game. THIS IS NOT EQ. DO NOT EXPECT EQ AT ALL. AND DO NOT WINGE WHEN ITS NOT LIKE EQ. But even in EQ i had about 6 chars, 2 of which i played regularly.. and it was annoying that they had to be differant.
I went a bit more in depth than i planned to.. i guess its cos i am bored and have just woken up. Any further questions please ask and I will do my best to answer them.
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EAT PEIRK
EAT PEIRK
That's not true at all.. you do not loose 500 exp at level 20.. You loose 300 at level 50.. you might loose 100 at level 20. Stop talking crap that's not true.
In regards to the Chocobo quest.. what kind of idiot would sit around for 6 hours waiting to feed the chocobo again?? it's called going on doing other stuff, leveling up, doing missions, or doing quests. Or you can log off and feed the chocobo the next day. You do not have to feed it every 6 hours on the dot. You just have to feed it 3 times.
It's called avoiding the mobs that agrivate you.. lol.. not that difficult. large terrains that you can run around in.. Not to mention there are some jobs that can cast sneak and invisible so you can hide form the mobs.... there are some jobs that can teleport you closer to town.. and there are some jobs that can warp you back to the town itself.. Hardly difficult.
Expect hours upon hours hitting bunnies... (hitting bunnies is not fun)
*anticipating WoW*
*anticipating WoW*
Is it a fun game? NO. Why? Read this: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/495/loadthread/15014/setstart/1/loadclass/169
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I was a huge fan of FFVII...that was loads of fun...this online version isn't like that at all. You have to rely on other people way too much. If you can't find team mates for a Party, you're screwed. You will be sitting around begging for someone to invite you to a party so you can hunt or get through a dangerous zone.
I once spent 4 hours begging for a team....the inability to solo at all really stinks beyond belief...they should make it so soloing is doable but much slower and boring compared to grouping...so you want to group but you aren't bored to death if noone is available to group with you.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
Hahaha u must really like this game to the point of lying because you loose 1100 XP at lvl 50 at least for me and i had a DARKNIGHT lvl 50 / THIEF lvl 25 (my Thief was 34 but defaults back to 25) and i died in crawlers nest and went down a lvl and died again in Garlesh Citadel and loose another 900 XP so u guys have an idea how this game REALLY SUCKS i quit like 3 months ago and i will stay away from this game... In favor of this game i have to say is the most beautiful MMRPG out there up to date (untill EQ2 comes out that is ) and i never played EQ1 but EQ2 promises SOLO at least up to LVL 50 and that sounds good...
- Inability to SOLO is the worst!!
- When u see a monster at lvl 50 and it says its a worthless monster CAREFUL HES DEADLY LOL!
- There too much Monster CLONING i mean i fight GOBLINS from LVL 3 to LVL 45 lol and if u see one at high lvls be careful he can suck those HP away in no time LOL
- Crafting is almost imposible i learned to make Meat Mithkabops (good for STR) and i ended up loosing alot to get to LVL 30 Cooking LOL again BAD!!!
- You learn something in this game BEG FOR GROUPING LOL!!!
- i could be an entire day at high LVLS and not acomplish anything...
- u must have at least 4 to 6 hours to play the game and find a group and have a LITTLE FUN...
Lets not forget they are CHARGING me $25.00 dont know why because i errased all my characters and i CANCELLED propoerly but i guess they are hiden fees on the EULA LOL so read it hahaha..
oh and once u quit u cant continue to play for the rest of the month like other MMRPGs once u cancel you are done like GET OUT OF HERE WE ALREADY SUCKED YOUR MONEY!!!
Its has one of the best graphics ive seen but it just doesnt help at all the FRUSTRATION u go in the game...
Thats my 2 cents guys take it if u like it if not well...
[quote]Originally posted by ramadin
[b]Is it a fun game? NO. Why? Read this: [url=http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/495/loadthread/15014/setstart/1/loadclass/169]
Laying in bed, looking up at the stars, a single thought passed through my head. Where the fuck is my roof?[/b][/quote]
Yes yes, I'm sure all the other MMORPGs are perfect
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[quote]Originally posted by John_sju2
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Originally posted by Xzaro
[quote]Originally posted by ramadin[b]Is it a fun game? NO. Why? Read this: [url=http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/495/loadthread/15014/setstart/1/loadclass/169]
Laying in bed, looking up at the stars, a single thought passed through my head. Where the fuck is my roof?[/b][/quote]
Yes yes, I'm sure all the other MMORPGs are perfect
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Yes all mmrpg are not perfect, but they dont suck like Final Fantasy XI
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Give me reasons why FFXI sucks pls.
Intelligent ones.
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you know one thing i am glad about is its group reliance. As much as i love to solo.. i mean i used to love queadding with my druid in EQ or Fearkiting with my Shadowknight... and i would just sit there all day doing it. I wouldn't go out or anything. I was a hardcore EQ addict, my friends didn't really matter cos I always had to play EQ EQ EQ EQ EQ...
This game, is really fun.. and if I don't get a group... I go out and have some lunch or whatever come back and get a group.
Most of the time i get a group within 5 mins of putting my flag up, depending on the time of day of course. I have had a couple of times where i did sit their for about an hour. But when that happens as i said.. i got on with the real world, or wrote a tune or saw friends... or went and did some ingame quest till some of my friends came online and then grouped with them.
Its cool, u can have the POL thing open and see when ur friends log on even if ur not in the actual game.
But yeah if u can't take it and want a more solo based game then this aint for you man. Shame, but each to their own u know?
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Dont let these biased flames deter you. This game is fun if you give a concious effort to have fun and make friends, it doesnt play itself. What I mean by that is that you wont experince the best points of this game by level grinding. You have to make a concious effort to break up the tedium, it may mean that you hit lvl 75 one day later than you had planned but ohwell. Its not like your beating the game by reahing lvl 75. Some of the best experiences in this game do not involve leveling and that is the key, you spend a lot of time training to become more powerful but the most gratifying events have little to do with your level.
This game is not for a person who likes to play the mysterious warrior, or the shy mage. Being social makes or breaks your experience.
Also like Psycosis said, you have to sort of plan your time playing this game because it will take awhile to get a group, but that means that you wont have to fall into the pit of it consuming your life.
Interdependence is a core concept in this game, you need a party to fight effectivly but group combat is the more fun because of it. As you go through the game you will learn that class's abilities can be combined and managed to make combat more enertaining and gripping.
Give me reasons why FFXI sucks pls.
Intelligent ones
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I see you didnt read the link I posted, theres lots of intelligent reasons there. If youre not, for some reason, intelligent enough to read through it, then I guess I gotta do the work.
The NEED of a whitemage, and the customization is one of the worst I ever seen. The AF's made me give up of the game. Cool, the end game is everyone looking the same freaking person. Twin brothers all around!
I canceled due to lack of english speaking players at higher levels
the lack of different looking armors pissed me off. And everbody jacked up the prices making it rediculous. and don't bother trying to make items. You will NEVER have the time nor money nore will power to succeed at a skill to make it worth your while!
Too long to find parties post lvl 30.Near complete lack of customization.
Inability to solo. (yes, I know it's a MMORPG but you don't have to group to enjoy the game and other people.)
The ability to be any class in the game caused a lack of higher level players because they were now playing a lower level character.
Leveling crafting skills to their max was pointless. For example, cooking, the most useful items were able to be reliably and profitably crafted by a cook that was only "mid level" in skill.
Lack of respect. I had the spawn I was waiting to kill for an hour stolen MANY MANY times by JP players. The very slight delay in my actions due to the distance from which I lived from the servers caused my actions to occur AFTER those nearer to the servers, hence causing me to be, IMHO, KS'ed from.
I found being able to sell only 7 items at a time in the bazaar too restrictive as I wasn't about to leave my character logged in with his own bazaar open 24/7.
Language barrier/national differences - Had no problem speaking to most JP players but I have a problem when the group that wants me finds out I'm "USA". I've have MANY JP groups try to invite me but then when they found out I was american, they replied with "NO USA!!!!!!". I have no problem with them but they did with my goverment.
User interface for one is horrible, specially the chat window.
Not a big sense of community
lack of depth
The three main reasons are the forced grouping, the lack of customization and the fact that the world was populated by the same monsters over and over again.
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And I agree with all of this. That enough for ya?
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It really all depends on how you recieve the stuff in this game. Its true that grinding is work, but groups are incredibly fun in this game as long as you are not an ass to your party members, or a person who is all work and no play. Soializing within this game is more fun than fighting sometimes.
Personally, every time I finish a long string of training sessions I take a break, do some quests/missions work the AH, get re-aquainted with people. If you go into this game thinking "next stop endgame" than, yes you are going to get bored and irriated. That is why I love this game, you are not expected or required to always be moving forward, many times it is more rewarding not to train and I think in a way this alienates powergamers who get bored because they choose to just train train train all day and that gets boring. Endgame is not as rewarding in this game as in others, all that is left to do is Dynamis and Ballista. Thus getting to endgame should not be a priority.
I kinda feel sorry for powergamers because they choose a boring path and then complain when it gets boring.
Also, another big perk to not rushing through the game is that if you make enough friends along the way, you wont need to sit around lfg all the time. With about a dozen friends you will almost always have someone on to pt up with.
I have played FF's before 7... I am never sure on which numbers they were, because I played a couple in america, 1 over here... and a few on an emulater.... some of which were same as others, but just badly translated or only half translated hehe. I do think the stories were good, but i found the dialouge alot more childish back then... from VII upwards (not including 9) they seemed to be making the games for the people who used to play them as kids and now want something more.
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I produce music, DnB, Trance, Metal Fusion, RaP and whatever i feel like. You might like it
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I totally disagree with this post!, I am a huge fan of FF and have played I - XI and own them all, i play FFXI and i think it's a brilliant game and would highly recomend it to any FF fan or even any mmorpg fan! And the point is for you to have 2 grp to help you to get thru the game!
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FFVII was the best FF!!
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How can you call yourself a huge FF fan when you haven't even played the other ones like Mystic quest, tactics, and tactics advanced!
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How can you call yourself a huge FF fan when you haven't even played the other ones like Mystic quest, tactics, and tactics advanced!
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I know eh , what a Fangsta
i played and finished all FF's except tactics, tactics advance and FF1.
i played tactics and tactics advanced but didnt finish.
can never find FF1 nowhere
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Im sorry, but this game sucks worse than mortan combat gold for the DC. It only has the final fantasy title so everone will be "OMG!!! A FINAL FANTASY GAME THATS ONLINE!!!! NOW I CAN KILL THE SAME ENIMIES IVE BEEN KILLING FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS , BUT WITH PEOPLE WATCHING!!!!!!!" please. if you want a good roleplaying game, try Dungeons and Dragons.
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