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there are no customization in this game.. don't be fool by them
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why? because you can't change any skill.. if you do you can't live. also hybird means atless 2X of the time for leveling up skill..
for warrior you got
Enhance Skill- 12 hp 1def.. remove it if you want to suicide...
Grapple Skill- increase 1 atk, 1 acc 12 hp.. only work when equip and fighting with melee weapon. remove this and you miss most of the time...
weapon skill- no weapon skill no normal mp skill... no one dumb remove to remove this..
sword- fast attack.. have a healing skill.. which is junk.. low damage but fast attack rate
hammer- most powerful attack in game,, can increase self defence and lower target defence.. most powerful in game.. infact 70% of the warrior use hammer..
spear- funny.. but sad have buff increase 10% atk.. which was good.. but the other skill increase max hp.. at level max it increase 130(...lol nothing else to say) may seem to be a good class.. but spear is a two hand weapon.. so even with 10% extra damage at level max.. you still have much lower damage.. somepeople do choose this path but most of them end regret XD
Reserve Skill- increase 1 sp light every 25 level(max level 100) and 1 atk per level... junk skill but you need it! why aoe skill mostly need 3 sp light.. if you don't have this skill means mostly you don't get to aoe anything.. XD
germent skill- you could change to light or vest.. but no def means you die easy and sit for longer period of time.
shield.. you could choose this.. but choose this means you have something less neither no aoe, less hp or miss most of the time. also your aspd reduce by 50% means you will have only 1/2 of normal damage
for archer
Longbow Skill- weapon skill for archer.. no one remove this...
Snipe Skill- there are better skill..but this is the only skill which work on long range weapon that boost.. increase 1 atk per level.. also chance to break target from casting.. you can remove this.. but i said but.. when fighting long range magic monster you have much higher chance of death
Eagle Eye- the skill every archer have.. no one ever remove this.. increase acc and agi.. if you remove this you can put down your bow...
Leather Armor- you can change to heavy armor but.. you will attack much slower.. you can change to mage armor but you die if target get close...
for mages
curse- increase casting time.. without this you can't be a mage..because you die before you cast anything..
vestment- low def armor..but if you change it you will cast much slower.. and you mostly can't do anything with magic.. but you could fight like warrior XD
Staff Hit- again remove this and you will suffer.. this skill increase acc,atk and matk.. one of the most useful skill for mage type.. unless you never plan to kill anything else don't remove this.
Meditate- 15 mp and 1 mdef per level.. you can remove this if you like.. but you will mostly die because of low mp. (buying potion? if you have the moeny.. also as levle get hgiher it take few hundren mp to cast.. you may only able to cast once with limited mp...)
Magic Transfer- increase 1 matk and 5 mp per level.. this is one of the skill you might want to change if you want to go hybird.. but i suggest not..because every bit of matk is important and more mp never hurt.. well you can change it.. if you don't mind lower matk.. if you don't mind hit one extra time when killing monster with mages same level..
magic spell
earth- mostly bugged, have shapeshift but useless junk, have reflection but never reflect anything.. have heal over time.. which is only good thing.. can tame monster.. but only 30% of the chance... and monster betray after 10~20 min depend on your skill level.. which mostly mark your death
holy- can res people and have many buff.. kinda sad your buff mostly don't work on yourself.. and mostly you die very easy in boss fight and you have very low matk..
summoner- cool to have summon pet.. not cool to have a summon pet who can't even beat same level monster 1 v 1... your pet is agressive.. which could get you killed
chaos- very powerful.. much powerful then anything.. very unbalance class.. they could solo boss and teleport like wiz in diablo II
*skill are design so that you cannot remove anything, if you done any change you will suffer much much more...
*infact any cash shop can reset their skill as much as they want, which means they can be warrior, mage or archer any time they felt like... which was pretty nasty. infact everyone still end up the same...
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I think you are exaggerating a bit, but you still have a point. One of the things that bothered me about the skill system is that you can change skills all you want, but you will almost assuredly be god awful. Hybriding two similar styles is about as far as you'll get on it. This game really takes the concept of 'jack of all trades, master of none' thing too far, you can make a buff casting, skele summoning, cotton picking, mage warrior thing, but by Jobe, he will be so, so, so utterly awful you'll wanna kill yourself.
Anyway, some of the styles do go together pretty neatly.. still think it's a gyp that you can't summon skeleton groups.
i played this for about a day, and relized its crap, 2D for 1 is basicly a dead genre in itself, and yes mixing skills ment they blew hard, i just couldnt stand it, expect this to be another quick failure....
the summon skeleton skill is an epic failure in this games.
for warriors.. yea true a skeleton fight by side is great. but as your level get higher your skeleton will not gain level as you do. you have to level up summoner skill(which require a million cast of a skill) to get better summon monster. but if you want to cast fast then you need to wear vestment and curse skill. which means you will have low hp/def/acc/...etc.. if you don't have these then it will take you 10X of the time to level up skill. anywayz i don't see any how any warrior can keep up the summoner skill level... and for a high levle with a skeleton.. it is kinda useless.. because it damage only 1 to high monster. personally i would rather save the skill slot for some better melee skill.
for archer and mages- summon pet is great. but they are all melee attack. which means unless you stand there not move. otherwise your summon pet will never get to hit anything. because mosnter is always faster then your pet.. unless you run around pet in circle.. but look it on other side of the story. there is no way your pet daage more then you do. which means running around pet is something really dumb. i think most of the range class have notice this.
also for natural skill yes you can tame any monster.. but it only last 10 minute (at level 1, 20 min at lvl 3). 1st if you don't have tame skill level up you won't be able to have good chance of tame the monster. second you are a warrior you have low mp.. which means you need mp potion. third.. the mosnter are mostly agressive, which means it might attack monster you are not attacking... and it could get you to trouble.
in boss fight.. your pet always die first.... boss have high attack.. unless you have a pet that dose buff.. but this never happen in tame nor summon pet. which also means summon pet skill are useless.. unless you are super rich buy 4 skill crystal every 10 level to keep up the skill level. but you will still waste more then 3X of the time to level up the skill. really if you look deeply they never allow any none cash shop to play hybird..... thats the key to this game
You are obviously a noob.. It's not hard to stand still and spam skills.. everyone does it, even if your pure build or not... you will still stand and spam your skills.. Also, I know you are a noob because you think you stick with a skeleton forever... you get mummies later on and they are very powerful... stronger then you of course, then on top of that you'll have your own pet which will also be stronger then you.. so.. whats the problem then?
Summoner classes have it hard vs bosses, but if you are a higher level then the boss, then summoner classes usually just keep summoning their pet when it dies to tank the boss. Quick and easy... Plus the cast time doesn't matter because you don't need to cast those spells hasty, it wouldn't change a thing.
...lol how long have you been testing? have you ever exam the skill exp talbe they use?... tell you what for now with totally max level 100. if you have curse and vestment it take you around 1 month from level 98 to 99(for skill spam 24 hours)
and if you don't have curse it will take you 3 month X 24 hours... and if you have light armor it will take you 6~7 month if you have heavy armor it wuill take you almost 10 month..well this is just an example.(you will need potion when you spam skill and you do need meditate for max mp...XD)
for summon skill.. yea true you could spam it.. but how long do you willing to leave your character afk? for level 40- it won't take much of time.. maximum a week or so.. but what about higher level? serious why you even think they have double exp card designed in cash shop? if you don't use hyibird even you do use 2X exp card you sitll manage to keep up the skills to current level. it is for higher level it starting getting nasty and you won't be able to keep your level around your skill level no matter how hard you spam it. if you check out chinese server you would notice many level 99 character with level 7X skill... and they do spam skill overnight... XD
yea true you can own pet.. but pet is for cash shop only.. you need cash shop item else you have to spend most of your weight on pet food. you need cash shop item to make sure your pet dosen't run away after death. lol.. do you really dare to use pet in boss fight???? (i mean if you don't use cash shop item)
summoner the same.. also all skill have hidden feature which are important.. like sp light number, cir hit, overall defence in %. lol if you look skill carefully you will notice that change anything will only lead to your failure. also how much could those poet do? i mean even you are a warrior..... when you are higher their damage is like nothing. their hp are not anything higher then same level mosnter neither.. so pain transfer is just a laugh for all warrior type. serious how much do you defence againist monster at your level?
can you summon another pet if current die in a fight? with heavy armor and no curse skill? lol i don't think so.. well it is your choice to have first 40 easy level... or to have pain on the @ss when you higher.. all your choice..
btw.. summoner fight boss? so they don't fight at all just let pet fight? they pick on boss 20 level below them? try your summon pet on monster of same level. tell you what.. your summon pet have lower atk and high hp compare with monster at same level. and it will never win a monster at same level without healing.. you can test this if you don't believe. also if you can kill the boss with summon monster.. you could kill it much more faster if you don't use it. because your damage is always higher then your summon pet damage. and your ride do increase your moving speed.. which keep boss always distance from you.
p.s. i hope you do wake up from your childish dream.. in this game hybird = suck.. and thats the equation.....
p.s. if you have time go check other server.. see how many people ever get summon death(level 7x final summoner pet)...lol summoner = junk this is something everyone know... well maybe not you
lol i must be out of my mind.. god damn it.. why should i even reply this post... well thats about it.. am not wasting my time in this crap game.. if you like it. i hope you do enjoy.. now stoping asking anything.. because i will not answer. if you want to know try out yourself
You speak like you know it all, but I also played the Japenese version of Angels Love level 84 HYBRID ARCHER!
Hybrid archers are the strongest in the game at level 70+, but you wouldn't know that with your closed mind and obtuse experience.
Summons are weak, and you can only beat bosses 20 levels under your level, yes... But thats if your around level 40-50, level 60+ summoners start to top the charts for magic users and even surpass chaos.. I for one think that a swordie hybrid with summon is a stupid idea, but Wrath is one of the best hybrid classes to chose from because they only gain, not lose. I'm rep you for doing your studying.. yah, on my level 84 I have level 60-70 skills... you only need to level up the skills you want.. I had axe skills on my hybrid archer at level 6 till I was level 40. Why would we waste our time.. Plus everyone has a macro to auto spam their skills at night, or at school.
Their pets become so dangerous at higher levels, since you think your so smart, you must know the pet I am talking about.. and at higher levels no body has a pet with less then 80 intimacy, and walks around with food. You buy food when your pets int is at 5, and you only carry 1 cookie just in case.. you don't waste your weight on foolish stuff on that.. but you wouldn't know that because you haven't experienced anything have you?
You would know that summoners, and axe/summoner hybrids are essential to totem defense in wars.. but wait.. seems you don't know that also..
Please shut the hell up about levels 100+ if you have no experience over 30.
Thank you, I don't want to see your noob face in game.
don't you know that warrior have sp range skill? don't you know that with full charge an warrior can kill any archer/mage without hp skill in 3~4 hit? ... totem war.. yea not like you can live through the ifrst few second. hp is the most important thing in this game, because it decide potion can enough time to heal you or not.
also hybird archer as i said before your summon pet walk slow.. which never get to hit much. and as a skill mage with teleport/ archer with good movement monster shouldn't be able to touch you anywayz. if you still need pet to help then i must admit you are nothing bug a noob...
also.. are you fool? how you pet lose intimacy? from death.. how you get it? 10 min per point with 80% full... but once your pet die yout still lose intimacy.. not like you are cash shop that could increase it anytime in few second.... pet are only meant to help level up, unless you are a cash shop...
you tell me you play in japanese version have an level 74 hybird archer. well archer could be build with vestment sinse they are long range, but at same time they lose their pvp ability... yea mdef is good too.. but your normal attack have chance to break spell when you are high as 74 it will be something very constant.. archer are mage killer...(unless you are a dumb@ss who give up the skill....)
i must say...japanese are all dumb... or you are just lying...true hybird archer is a good pve hybird in this game, but it is still not as good as "pure" build. and no worry you won't see me in that game.. and beta testing some other games right now.
well.. my word are here.. if you don't like it.. you don't have to listen or read. no body are forcing you to do anything. now stop wasting my time... if you like to know something go post your own thread and ask.
p.s. if you planning to tell me summon vampire is partly long range attack.. then you can shut up
p.s. a good skillful archer/mage player should be possible to kill any boss at their level or higher without long range skill. (some of the boss have only aoe) both mage and archer have skill which delay monster's movement. and the game AI is dumb.. you could lead it to place that it never able to get out on it own...lol i must say you are neither are mad man or a child.. getting to level 8X in this game.. you are not serious.. i collect data from chinese server. also from wiki they have data about skill. if you want you can go check out. many of the things you can check out form video they post. am not like you. because i play something i will make sure it is a fair game, and it is something that worth playing.
you may spend rest of your game on that game if you like it is your own choice.. now shut up please
Number 1, I clearly didn't state what my build was, and I did not use wrath skills in my archer hybrid, so don't assume things.
You played to level 70 like you said, you know getting to that level takes over a year, so your ranting just contradicts your actions. Also, Warriors get the strongest skill in the game, Panther strike yah. But that would not be able to kill a skillful mage or archer. Have you forgot pots as well? Archers and mages kite other players in PVP, panther strike is their only way of winning, which means sacrificing their own HP yes? Well, holy long does the cool down take, and when you run out of SP, how long does it take to get more to cast again.. every second you waste we will heal, and continue the fast DPS.
Also with pets, yah they lose intimacy every death.. But how long does it take to level once! When your leveling your pet NEVER DIES! and in that time you can gain over 20 INTIMACY! What what you said is also stupid, plus in 3rd stage, they can tank bosses alone, because their HP is not low.
You saying HP is the game is also laughable, the thing thats wins you wars is your defense, thats why mages have it harder, but they finish the job quicker, so why worry.
Also, you said hybrid archers are worse then pure... thats the worse line I've heard.. everyone knows that pure archers are the weakest in the game.. You need axe skills, its a have to, no question about it. Thats why I know you have small experience in game, your just speaking with no back bone.
Back onto summoners... hybrids are their only choice or their a useless class, hybriding with archer is a stupid move, but you've probably done it haven't you? They mix with other magic classes, and they level their skills slower, they only need to hit certain barriers on the way. First one is to get a mummy, so spam your skill.. low cast speed or not, it doesn't matter with your macro. Warrior hybrid is just your stupid failed attempt, probably why you quit. It's not a bad build, but at higher levels you lack all damage.
Plus, the strongest archer on the Jap server was a magic archer who wore vestment... He had hardly any defense.. then why was he the best PVPer in the server? Was that because of the spammibility and burst damage? NO FUCCKING WAY!
Shush noob.
serious how old are you? don't you know that warrior/archer have skill that stop target from casting anything? also ..yea it is true there are potion.. but how many potion can you carry with vestment? and do you think it is same thing with 3k hp and 1k hp??? warrior have 2400 hp more then archer/mage when max out.... which means they mostly won't die, and don't youknow that in war.. you get buff... like earth's heal over time.
well i serious doubt that you ever level anywhere near 70. i see you neither an axe archer or sword archer.. which was a dumb ways... because weapon skill only take effect when you have such weapon in hand. which also means 1 atk per level/8 acc every 10 level take no effect on your bow. all you get is buff.. 15% defence/10cri hit when max out for axe. 64 heal over time/15% more attack speed for sword... and don't bull shit me that you wear heavy armor. when heavy armor your shooting time will be greatly reduce...
ok for axe acher- you are not suppose to get hit by mosnter.. which means 15% defence means almost nothing.. 10 cri hit .. thats good.. but still you lose more then you gain
sword archer- 15% more aspd.. thats great.. but how fast you can get.. although bow weapon have speed 4.. but think it through bow is still two hand weapon.. you can't equip two bow can you???? lol
mage archer - you won't be able to cast, or you die in few hit..
pure build- which is the best... but rather boring....
i never said it take a year to get to level 70. infact you could reach level 40 in one day.. but after that there will a major pain on skills.. yea it is ture you could use hybird.. but hybird are never as good as pure. for melee archer hybird you need to attack low level monster to gain melee weapon skill.. for mage archer hybird you will need to cast over and over again... and for mage archer build- if you don't have curse and vestment it will take you atless 6X more time to level up the skill. well i don't see why you like this game so much.. serious i already quit the game within first month.. i have also check out CB of this game in some other country i must admit what you guys playing here in north america is the worst version i ever seen.
well.. have fun if you fullfill with what you have.. and stop replying.....i don't like to reply you. but you sound like someone of very young age.. i hope you still realize these are still games.. in this game hybird is not an option to me.. thats my openion.. if you have different thought you could make another post and talk about your thought.... btw in japanese server have you ever seen anyone with summon death? it is the level 74 summoner skill... serious there is only one person dumb enough to get summoner over 74 on taiwan server.. then thats the end for summoner on all chinese server....XD
i don't know how japanese felt.. but these summon pet are only use to show up and taken picture with on chinese server....
Hmm, I was getting the impression you were the youngest, but this argument is quite fun, even if I'm under the ball.
Hmm, don't you know all archers level 40+ have axe skill, we don't use the axe, lol. No, we use it for the buffs, a lot also get spear skills, but I stuck with enhance.. also all mantle archers are weak, you need garment.. no question about it. Archer skills cast time stays the say garment or not, we don't shoot with our bows, we spam our skills, with garment our defence is really high, and with axe skils our chance of crit is very deadly... hp and damage is what archer use to their advantage, thats why we are the strongest in PVP.. you never hit us, but when you do, it does nothing and you're already dead... Mages don't even get a shoot on us because we can also freeze.
I'm sorry I made you believe I was a noob, or young in fact.. maybe because you haven't played in a while you forgot archers main builds, but thats alright. I've seen the USA server, and it's fun being the strongest, new server is coming out so I'm going to lay back, then get level 40 in two days on that.
Summons, and dragging monsters were the specialty of this very strong league on Jap version... the monsters cleared the annoying lowbies and let the strong ones help.. summons shot from a far and push a lot of foes back. South Mirror Lake was a favorite of my league, and we need summoners, we had our men in, and some out beside the energy cannon things, summons were the distraction, most of them were long range, and we killed a lot before we even needed to lift a finger... But I you are correct.. summons are weak, they pick on the lower levels... but for mages its deadly because they cancel your cast and etc... summons can be advantage to warriors.. but warriors have to be able to get the skills high enough in the first place.
Anyways, I hope our fighting helped newbies think of strong builds for this game.. If you want to continue, I wouldn't be mad at your decision.