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Open Pvp / rvr

How will you make sure that the same thing that happend to ShadowBane, will not happen to Age Of Conan ?

 

Beta:
GW, WOW, AOC, DAOC, DOD, L2, VG.
Playd:
GW necro msx, WOW never maxd, DAOC reaver-paladin-cabalist-vamp max, L2 never maxd, VG never maxd.

Play:
Daoc - Paladin. Classic.

Comments

  • erandurerandur Member Posts: 727

    You forgot the worst part :) People having sex during PvP! Heh.. victims of war..

    You know it, the best way to realize your dreams is waking up and start moving, never lose hope and always keep up.

  • ReccooReccoo Member Posts: 197

    Oh god so many people are going to be disappointed in this game, that's all im saying without saying too much:).

  • swainiacswainiac Member Posts: 120
    Originally posted by Reccoo


    Oh god so many people are going to be disappointed in this game, that's all im saying without saying too much:).

    So many people are disapointed with any game. Thanks for coming to this post and taking the time to make such a profound statement.

  • AcceleratumAcceleratum Member Posts: 10

    Ive been a fan of funcom for awhile, I dont think it will be that bad =D

  • RellimnietsRellimniets Member Posts: 45

    be to the ones in beta, save us the mula.

  • throckmortonthrockmorton Member Posts: 314

    What happened in Shadowbane?

    I'm playing Shadowbane right now, and I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Try making a decent argument next time OP.

  • IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142

    See now I'm tempted to get Shadowbane since it's free and check it out for myself.  I'm now wondering as well about what he's talking about.  I've played Lineage 2 for a while and it was more or less free for all killing and it wasn't a rampant killing field.

    No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593

    Originally posted by Illius


    See now I'm tempted to get Shadowbane since it's free and check it out for myself.  I'm now wondering as well about what he's talking about.  I've played Lineage 2 for a while and it was more or less free for all killing and it wasn't a rampant killing field.
    That is because the penalty for killing someone unprovoced, unless youre in a guild war, is very harsch. And for me that is not FFA PvP.

    It is like saying: Yeah you can kill anyone you want but if you do then your character will be deleted. Yeah excagurated a bit there but that is how Lineage 2s PvP is like. PvP outside of guild wars is a big no-no.

    I really hope AoC doesnt pull any shit like that, or atleast not on the PvP servers.

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    AoC wont let assassins sneak into your keep to get your tree before the fight even starts like in Shadowbane.

    AoC inherent design is different to that of Shadowbane, but the OP isnt being specific, because Shadowbane had many problems and well as plus's.

    Can we please also get over the fact that there is no RVR in Age of Conan.



  • AKBanditoAKBandito Member Posts: 82

    I think what the OP is talking about is in reference to the open pvp/gvg/rvr thing in shadowbane where you had guilds conquering the entire server, and no one able to start up their own cities with being raided.

    It was very harsh.

    Does anyone know how to make a mmoRPG anymore?

  • throckmortonthrockmorton Member Posts: 314


    Originally posted by AKBandito
    I think what the OP is talking about is in reference to the open pvp/gvg/rvr thing in shadowbane where you had guilds conquering the entire server, and no one able to start up their own cities with being raided.
    It was very harsh.

    Ok that makes some sense. On the server I'm playing on, it is far from RvR, as there are 6-10 major nations.

    But yes. Shadowbane is still full of bugs and lag, but is still the best PvP centric game out there right now.

  • spyhunter107spyhunter107 Member Posts: 104

    Shadowbane is an horrible game. If you don't have a guild or friends, you'll not be able to level up because there's alot of classing that can't solo, and along with people constantly killing you for no dang reason. I don't mean getting killed, but I just hated the way Shadowbane leveling system is. The pking in that game was lame considering how items won't a big deal - all you got was bag trash- may as well consider gear looting from the player equipments. However, I did like the leveling system, you'll level up to 80 in 2-3 days if you're lucky and have a guild.

     

    I hope people from WoW stay in Wow, players from Shadowbane stay in Shadowbane, and people from linage stay in lineage etc. People from other community like to bring their bad habit which they learn from those game over to new fresh games. I'm glad that Conan isn't a clicking game.

  • I am not an AOC Fanb0i yet, but I do feel that this game has the potential to give us the siege warfare experience that Shadowbane couldn't. I also like Warhammer but I dislike DAOC's current version of how keeps are captured and slip away in no time flat, so I'm watching to see how they shape up as well.



    But a company who sends out a monthly newsletter full of fluff can fail to live up to expectations as well as a company that doesn't. The proof for me is when the NDA lifts, I get into a beta, or get suckered into playing a retail version. All the reviews or newsletters in the world won't matter once I get beyond the PR hype.

  • ndpunchndpunch Member Posts: 208

    LOL, when you think about FFA PvP in Conan, don't think Shadowbane. It's more like Lineage2 meets Vanguard FFA server and they have a baby together named Conan

  • TamishTamish Member Posts: 27

    I am sure i read somewhere there is a penalty for player killing in the open PvP server?  Some kind of legal penalty where you will become a criminal and can be arrested or something?

  • SvarcanumSvarcanum Member UncommonPosts: 425

    In the latest interview I read with some Funcom guy, it was said that there won't be free PvP everywhere. And no PvP severs either. There are some areas (like the contested keep zones and the arenas) where you can PvP. But in the open world and the PvE keep zones you can't PvP. So if you're all for FFA or RvR or just free PvP this ain't your game it seems...

  • throckmortonthrockmorton Member Posts: 314


    Originally posted by Svarcanum
    In the latest interview I read with some Funcom guy, it was said that there won't be free PvP everywhere. And no PvP severs either. There are some areas (like the contested keep zones and the arenas) where you can PvP. But in the open world and the PvE keep zones you can't PvP. So if you're all for FFA or RvR or just free PvP this ain't your game it seems...

    No there actually will be FFA PvP servers. But Cities will be safe zones and there will be penalties for killing those much lower level than you.

    In the PvE cities you can't PvP even on a PvP server, but you can do PvP city sieging in the Border Kingdom.

  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    As far as I've been informed there will be several types of servers, including FFA-PVP. I also think I've read that one Guild can't control more than one castle or keep. So there won't be a situation where one Guild owns everything. It's also quite easy to recruit help from other guilds or even randoms when attacking/defending guild property.

  • GaurusGaurus Member Posts: 9

    From what I have heard there are a few things that will stop the crazy 'ganking' of other games. There will be the bounty system where the more people you kill the more NPC guards come to attack you.  Also I think they plan to have level tiers so the you cannot kill people 20 levels lower than you. About guilds controlling all the battlekeeps, besides having a limit on the amount a guild can control they mentioned also a mercenary system so that small rich guilds can overpower larger guilds. Finally hopefully Conan will make it so that skill and strategy can over come numbers.

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    Originally posted by erandur


    You forgot the worst part :) People having sex during PvP! Heh.. victims of war..

    i lold

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Originally posted by spyhunter107


    Shadowbane is an horrible game. If you don't have a guild or friends, you'll not be able to level up because there's alot of classing that can't solo, and along with people constantly killing you for no dang reason. I don't mean getting killed, but I just hated the way Shadowbane leveling system is. The pking in that game was lame considering how items won't a big deal - all you got was bag trash- may as well consider gear looting from the player equipments. However, I did like the leveling system, you'll level up to 80 in 2-3 days if you're lucky and have a guild.
     
    I hope people from WoW stay in Wow, players from Shadowbane stay in Shadowbane, and people from linage stay in lineage etc. People from other community like to bring their bad habit which they learn from those game over to new fresh games. I'm glad that Conan isn't a clicking game.

    I reacted to the first things you wrote there.

    You are suppose to have a guils or friends in Shadowbane, thats the whole point.  To solo a MMO is a childish dream for players that automaticly wants to become a hero.

    In Shadowbane you have to earn it.  And seriously, how much can you do alone? And in WoW, you cant change anything, whatever you do in the world. In Shadowbane you could. So i hope you understand now why one person cant go around building citys, sieging towns and beat up others randomly.

    You need a guild for that : )

  • eric_w66eric_w66 Member UncommonPosts: 1,006

    Originally posted by daarco


     
     
    I reacted to the first things you wrote there.
    You are suppose to have a guils or friends in Shadowbane, thats the whole point.  To solo a MMO is a childish dream for players that automaticly wants to become a hero.
    In Shadowbane you have to earn it.  And seriously, how much can you do alone? And in WoW, you cant change anything, whatever you do in the world. In Shadowbane you could. So i hope you understand now why one person cant go around building citys, sieging towns and beat up others randomly.
    You need a guild for that : )
    The problem with Shadowbane (why it died so quick commercially) is that one guild could and WOULD dominate an entire server. No other cities could spring up, they'd be immediately destroyed by the top dog. If you weren't in the top dog guild, you were slain constantly.

    Great for the top dog guild, sucked for Wolfpack. Having people cancel subs because a few people felt the need to be sociopaths and thereby getting yourself fired... not a good design decision.

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