I guess I am the hater here... And it boiled down to the fact that Turbine took a loved license, and turned it into a boring WoW clone.. The crafting is more boring to me than WoW or EQ2 The landscapes are beautiful, but the character models are bland and tasteless to me.. The interface does not size with higher resolutions, and does not adapt well to modding (you cannot change a lot of the fonts for example...and makes my old eyes hurt with the squinting on my 24" monitor and 56" HD-ILA HDTV) The quests are inundated with the kill 10x variety...as most MMO's are, but they prove to be more boring to me. And overall the world felt lackluster, with NPC's spouting "Woe is me..." when you talk to them...Less than adequate animations, forced grouping to complete full questlines (I mean the end of a major story quest...for those nitpicking words) unless the quest turns grey... But, this is all opinion, so, yes, there are those of us who hate it, and those that like it...just trial it...and make sure to play to at least level 30...as the first levels are actually not too bad...then it just turns into Lord of the Bore! Later
i wouldn't say i hate it exactly, but i do agree with your post.
Oh come on now eq1 started shadow knights now wow is coming out with death knights it is the same thing, there are creatures in wow that look similar to some of eq 1s creatures so stop it with the wow clone crap games have been copying each other long before wow.
I would still play LotRO if it weren't for poor customer support I had. I canceled my account after an exchange with one off their "reps" and refuse to pay for their paycheck.
Oh come on now eq1 started shadow knights now wow is coming out with death knights it is the same thing, there are creatures in wow that look similar to some of eq 1s creatures so stop it with the wow clone crap games have been copying each other long before wow.
But it was WoW that put a simple face on it with simple death penalties, quick levelling and mediocre quests...a.k.a - LOTRO
i havent played the game....but all i hear is negative comments about this game.... ....for the videos iv seen this game looks pretty decent......and its only been out for a yaer and it has 300k + subs....which is great for a new mmo....
What makes you actually believe that all gamers hate a game like this? Where are you forming your opinion here? You must take into consideration that any forum such as this is only a minute and I really mean extremely small sampling of all gamers out there. I would wager a guess that it's not even a thousandths of a percent.
This observation can be made for any of the games listed on this forum. Please take into consideration that no forum gets enough people on a daily basis to make an overall assesment of whether a game is loved or hated.
How do yo tell if a game is popular or not? Well, take a look at quarterly earnings and subscription numbers of said game. That's when you can make comparisons and possible assumptions about popularity.
All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth John Lennon
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
For whatever reason the vocal minority that can't stand the game seems trully passionate about attacking it. Since they can't get to the offiicial LoTRO boards, some of them end up on boards like this one posting "LoTRO sucks" endlessly. Maybe it's a "fight the man" sort of thing, who knows. In any case, those of us that play know the games doing well, and so (for the most part) aren't worried enough about it to bother responding to the same 4 points ad infinitum on one random message board.
I would say ignore what you've read and try the game for yourself. If you think every MMO since pre-trammel UO sucked, well don't bother with it. If your think grinding at camps endlessly to level is "the best thing eva!" again, don't bother. However, if you enjoy quest based PvE MMOs with deep lore, odds are you'll think it's pretty fun.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Good posts all. Glad to see some real discussion going on and not just simple game bashing... well mostly.
That's the great thing about MMO gaming in the days of free trials and open betas, you get a lot of leeway to decide if a particular MMO is to your liking or not.
I don't think I will ever understand the distraught attitude that some gamers seem to express over their gaming experiences though. If I play a game I don't like or am no longer having fun with... big deal... there are plenty of other MMOs out there. The faster you move on... the faster you can start having fun playing again.
Too many times some gamers seem to forget that it's first and foremost a GAME... something that we do to have FUN. If we aren't having fun... then it's not the right game... it really is that simple.
For a lot of people it goes beyond just having fun, though. A lot of the resentment or even hate people show is tied to people's expectations. Kind of stating the obvious, but there it is.
When I first started playing MMOs it struck me as absolutely depressing just how much of themselves some people put into these games.
I got this game, played it for about a week or so and got bored and just let the card run out. It's not one specific thing to point out that it sux it's just very bleh. Graphics are very nice, a little laggy but nothing like Vanguard but you just get this constant meh feeling when you play it. I'm sure LOTR diehards are the ones that cling to it or groups of friends but others like myself just find it very bland.
EQ allowed for a deeper character customization, more class choices, and you didn't feel the need to do the quests or follow them from one zone to the next. The only game that I know of that started this is WoW. I think EQ2 came shortly after and then eventually LoTRO. EQ2 isn't as simplistic as WoW, so it is only logical for people to compare LoTRO to WoW.
EQ2 came out BEFORE WoW...check release dates...
But, I also agree in the fact that LOTRO is more simplistic and should be compared to WoW, as with EQ2, it is no contest of which game requires more thought and determination to learn the overall game...
Later
well EQ2 started off a little diffrent and became WoW afied later
Oh come on now eq1 started shadow knights now wow is coming out with death knights it is the same thing, there are creatures in wow that look similar to some of eq 1s creatures so stop it with the wow clone crap games have been copying each other long before wow.
But it was WoW that put a simple face on it with simple death penalties, quick levelling and mediocre quests...a.k.a - LOTRO
Later
No! WoW didn't. Just please GET THE FACTS RIGHT. I stated here already, read old reviews of Asheron's Call 2. First game released in 2002 by Turbine using the same LOTRO engine with tons of solo quests. No XP death penalties, simple crafting, linear fast leveling. WoW is a bloody AC2 clone, and lotro is a turbine's vision evolution.
Wow ok bro you might want to relax its only a game where talking about here im sure it is offensive I know ac1 was a great game and wish I would of played that instead of eq1 when it was popular but it really doesnt matter let them think whatever they want.
No matter what people will call the next game a wow clone or eve clone etc, and I do agree with you that wow was copied from other games.
I guess because lord of the rings is the best fantasy IP period. so to make a mediocre game with no pvp for a bit of a niche market, is abit of a let down (understatement) to the rest of the people who aren't interested in re-branded wow pve.
But I guess ignoring how good a lotr mmorpg should be and comparing it to most mmo's (which are awful) its good game.
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
We must always note a caveat here...
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Oh come on now eq1 started shadow knights now wow is coming out with death knights it is the same thing, there are creatures in wow that look similar to some of eq 1s creatures so stop it with the wow clone crap games have been copying each other long before wow.
But it was WoW that put a simple face on it with simple death penalties, quick levelling and mediocre quests...a.k.a - LOTRO
Later
No! WoW didn't. Just please GET THE FACTS RIGHT. I stated here already, read old reviews of Asheron's Call 2. First game released in 2002 by Turbine using the same LOTRO engine with tons of solo quests. No XP death penalties, simple crafting, linear fast leveling. WoW is a bloody AC2 clone, and lotro is a turbine's vision evolution.
Ok...I apologize...you would be correct...but, I think it is the fact that AC2 was such a failure...so many people just seem to forget it even existed.....
From what I heard, AC2 was actually quite awesome with classes, combat and questing...but also was full of bugs, balance issues, and so much more...
As to Turbine's evolution...I am not sure I would use those words...maybe AC2 upgrade/downgrade...upgrade AC2 graphics, downgrade AC2 fun..
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
We must always note a caveat here...
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
I never mentioned that website. I was just expressing an opinion. That's why I said "seems to be" instead of "is."
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Ok, enough of this crap. Let's get one thing straight here folks. If this game is such a wow clone, then explain to me why they don't have a playable evil side? For those of you who play, I am well aware of monster play, but I mean a real playable from the get go evil side. I'll tell you why; it's due to the fact that it would not fit with the story line. So instead of just taking a shit on the story, and making the pvp cround happy, the developers chose to stick with the story. You have to respect that, even if you hate the game. Tell me that they wouldn't have sold more copies if there was an evil side to play?
And Monster play, hell, there's an original idea right there. Playing an evil alt that starts at 50 with the sole purpose of hunting good players, and all the while enhancing your main good character. That must have came right from WoW.
Oh, and how about housing? Real tangible houses and communities. True, they are instanced communties but they are fairly large and very cool. You actually own a home with neighbors and a community, complete with everything in the world in terms of decoration. I guess they took that from WoW also huh?
How about the deeds and title system? Right from WoW? The Family Generations? WoW also?
The fact is.. half of the people arguing on this topic have not even played the game, or played long enough to have an educated opinion. There is a lot of cool new ideas in this game.
And for the record, as I have stated before, I started my MMO carrer forged in teh fires of the greatest yet shittiest game ever created... Shadowbane. And I've played literally every MMO since. While they all take and borrow from each other, they all have aspects that make them fun to someone. Hell, I know a bunch of guys playing FLYFF and having a ball! I think that game is a piece of shit, but there is something about it they like...lol, takes all kinds.
i havent played the game....but all i hear is negative comments about this game.... ....for the videos iv seen this game looks pretty decent......and its only been out for a yaer and it has 300k + subs....which is great for a new mmo....
People who hate a game , well , i seriously dont understand them, i mean there is some games i don't like or grown tired of, but hate , its such a strong word
The game is good ,has perfect graphics or close to.
The one thing i do dislike alot though is Codemasters running the game.
... From what I heard... As to Turbine's evolution...I am not sure I would use those words...maybe AC2 upgrade/downgrade...upgrade AC2 graphics, downgrade AC2 fun.. Later
Talk about spewing untruths!
You admit you never played the game... heck you didn't even remember it existed. Then you state that LoTRo is a downgrade to AC2's fun?
Well there you go folks. That's what this forum deals with... day in and day out.
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
We must always note a caveat here...
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
Well hell... who can argue with logic like that? If you're using this source... You can not. They know nothing....
Very funny. I'm glad you know that they don't know. Thank christ someone knows something.
Let me try your logic... let me know what you think. k?
If you're listening to openedge1, you can not. He knows nothing. Boy.. that does feel right. Can I use that at work? Iol, I'm just funnin with ya bro.
Aside from that, I believe you are correct. Turbine is a privately held company and does not need to release financial information, however, publicly traded companies do have to release this information. So some information on that site may be accurate. As for LOTRO, they're probably questimating with sales figures.
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
We must always note a caveat here...
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
Well hell... who can argue with logic like that? If you're using this source... You can not. They know nothing....
Very funny. I'm glad you know that they don't know. Thank christ someone knows something.
Let me try your logic... let me know what you think. k?
If you're listening to openedge1, you can not. He knows nothing. Boy.. that does feel right. Can I use that at work? Iol, I'm just funnin with ya bro.
Aside from that, I believe you are correct. Turbine is a privately held company and does not need to release financial information, however, publicly traded companies do have to release this information. So some information on that site may be accurate. As for LOTRO, they're probably questimating with sales figures.
Heh... if you are new to the LoTRo forums you might not recognize openedge... he's a closet LoTRo lover and hates himself for it. He tries to stay away... even got himself a "vacation" once or twice because he loves it so much.
He's just the latest incarnation of those that just can not resist the temptation that is LoTRo. They say they dislike the game and that they've moved on... yet their emotions show where their true love lies.
Ok, enough of this crap. Let's get one thing straight here folks. If this game is such a wow clone, then explain to me why they don't have a playable evil side? For those of you who play, I am well aware of monster play, but I mean a real playable from the get go evil side. I'll tell you why; it's due to the fact that it would not fit with the story line. So instead of just taking a shit on the story, and making the pvp cround happy, the developers chose to stick with the story. You have to respect that, even if you hate the game. Tell me that they wouldn't have sold more copies if there was an evil side to play? And Monster play, hell, there's an original idea right there. Playing an evil alt that starts at 50 with the sole purpose of hunting good players, and all the while enhancing your main good character. That must have came right from WoW.
Oh, and how about housing? Real tangible houses and communities. True, they are instanced communties but they are fairly large and very cool. You actually own a home with neighbors and a community, complete with everything in the world in terms of decoration. I guess they took that from WoW also huh? How about the deeds and title system? Right from WoW? The Family Generations? WoW also? The fact is.. half of the people arguing on this topic have not even played the game, or played long enough to have an educated opinion. There is a lot of cool new ideas in this game. And for the record, as I have stated before, I started my MMO carrer forged in teh fires of the greatest yet shittiest game ever created... Shadowbane. And I've played literally every MMO since. While they all take and borrow from each other, they all have aspects that make them fun to someone. Hell, I know a bunch of guys playing FLYFF and having a ball! I think that game is a piece of shit, but there is something about it they like...lol, takes all kinds.
Good points Sir! You are a scholar and a gentlemen to boot!
This is simply not true. YOu obviously missed a game Asheron's Call 2 made by Turbine in 2002. It used the same engine as LOTRO. Same interface. It was a first linear heavy solo quest oriented game with simple mechanics, no xp death penalty.. and overall very simple linear game. WoW copied it completely. Lotro is just an evolution from AC2 not WoW. Lotro is Asheron's Call 3 in Middle Earth world.
Using AC2 as a reference for LoTRO isn't helping your argument. AC2 was a failure and I didn't even hear of the game until 6 months before it shut down. Once again, WoW is the only reasonable comparison here, since it was successful and has the same model. You don't go around claiming a current game stemmed from a failure. It's just bad for business.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
EQ allowed for a deeper character customization, more class choices, and you didn't feel the need to do the quests or follow them from one zone to the next. The only game that I know of that started this is WoW. I think EQ2 came shortly after and then eventually LoTRO. EQ2 isn't as simplistic as WoW, so it is only logical for people to compare LoTRO to WoW.
EQ2 came out BEFORE WoW...check release dates...
But, I also agree in the fact that LOTRO is more simplistic and should be compared to WoW, as with EQ2, it is no contest of which game requires more thought and determination to learn the overall game...
Later
Either way, EQ2 and WoW were released too close together to be a clone of one another.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
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Oh come on now eq1 started shadow knights now wow is coming out with death knights it is the same thing, there are creatures in wow that look similar to some of eq 1s creatures so stop it with the wow clone crap games have been copying each other long before wow.
I would still play LotRO if it weren't for poor customer support I had. I canceled my account after an exchange with one off their "reps" and refuse to pay for their paycheck.
Other than that, I enjoyed it
LotRO: Meneldor: Riders of the Riddermark
Later
This observation can be made for any of the games listed on this forum. Please take into consideration that no forum gets enough people on a daily basis to make an overall assesment of whether a game is loved or hated.
How do yo tell if a game is popular or not? Well, take a look at quarterly earnings and subscription numbers of said game. That's when you can make comparisons and possible assumptions about popularity.
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
Actually the game is fairly popular. At last based on number of subs it seems to be the second most popular sub based MMO in North America and Europe currently. It's not a super smash hit, it's closer in number of subs to EQ II and EVE than to WoW. But it is doing well and growing steadily to all appearances, hater propoganda to the contrary.
For whatever reason the vocal minority that can't stand the game seems trully passionate about attacking it. Since they can't get to the offiicial LoTRO boards, some of them end up on boards like this one posting "LoTRO sucks" endlessly. Maybe it's a "fight the man" sort of thing, who knows. In any case, those of us that play know the games doing well, and so (for the most part) aren't worried enough about it to bother responding to the same 4 points ad infinitum on one random message board.
I would say ignore what you've read and try the game for yourself. If you think every MMO since pre-trammel UO sucked, well don't bother with it. If your think grinding at camps endlessly to level is "the best thing eva!" again, don't bother. However, if you enjoy quest based PvE MMOs with deep lore, odds are you'll think it's pretty fun.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Good posts all. Glad to see some real discussion going on and not just simple game bashing... well mostly.
That's the great thing about MMO gaming in the days of free trials and open betas, you get a lot of leeway to decide if a particular MMO is to your liking or not.
I don't think I will ever understand the distraught attitude that some gamers seem to express over their gaming experiences though. If I play a game I don't like or am no longer having fun with... big deal... there are plenty of other MMOs out there. The faster you move on... the faster you can start having fun playing again.
Too many times some gamers seem to forget that it's first and foremost a GAME... something that we do to have FUN. If we aren't having fun... then it's not the right game... it really is that simple.
For a lot of people it goes beyond just having fun, though. A lot of the resentment or even hate people show is tied to people's expectations. Kind of stating the obvious, but there it is.
When I first started playing MMOs it struck me as absolutely depressing just how much of themselves some people put into these games.
I got this game, played it for about a week or so and got bored and just let the card run out. It's not one specific thing to point out that it sux it's just very bleh. Graphics are very nice, a little laggy but nothing like Vanguard but you just get this constant meh feeling when you play it. I'm sure LOTR diehards are the ones that cling to it or groups of friends but others like myself just find it very bland.
EQ2 came out BEFORE WoW...check release dates...But, I also agree in the fact that LOTRO is more simplistic and should be compared to WoW, as with EQ2, it is no contest of which game requires more thought and determination to learn the overall game...
Later
well EQ2 started off a little diffrent and became WoW afied laterLater
No! WoW didn't. Just please GET THE FACTS RIGHT. I stated here already, read old reviews of Asheron's Call 2. First game released in 2002 by Turbine using the same LOTRO engine with tons of solo quests. No XP death penalties, simple crafting, linear fast leveling. WoW is a bloody AC2 clone, and lotro is a turbine's vision evolution.
REALITY CHECK
Wow ok bro you might want to relax its only a game where talking about here im sure it is offensive I know ac1 was a great game and wish I would of played that instead of eq1 when it was popular but it really doesnt matter let them think whatever they want.
No matter what people will call the next game a wow clone or eve clone etc, and I do agree with you that wow was copied from other games.
indeed i agree its just a game, its a very good game but they could of done (and hopfully will do) alot more with such a great IP
I guess because lord of the rings is the best fantasy IP period. so to make a mediocre game with no pvp for a bit of a niche market, is abit of a let down (understatement) to the rest of the people who aren't interested in re-branded wow pve.
But I guess ignoring how good a lotr mmorpg should be and comparing it to most mmo's (which are awful) its good game.
My blog:
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
Later
Ok...I apologize...you would be correct...but, I think it is the fact that AC2 was such a failure...so many people just seem to forget it even existed.....No! WoW didn't. Just please GET THE FACTS RIGHT. I stated here already, read old reviews of Asheron's Call 2. First game released in 2002 by Turbine using the same LOTRO engine with tons of solo quests. No XP death penalties, simple crafting, linear fast leveling. WoW is a bloody AC2 clone, and lotro is a turbine's vision evolution.
From what I heard, AC2 was actually quite awesome with classes, combat and questing...but also was full of bugs, balance issues, and so much more...
As to Turbine's evolution...I am not sure I would use those words...maybe AC2 upgrade/downgrade...upgrade AC2 graphics, downgrade AC2 fun..
Later
I never mentioned that website. I was just expressing an opinion. That's why I said "seems to be" instead of "is."
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Ok, enough of this crap. Let's get one thing straight here folks. If this game is such a wow clone, then explain to me why they don't have a playable evil side? For those of you who play, I am well aware of monster play, but I mean a real playable from the get go evil side. I'll tell you why; it's due to the fact that it would not fit with the story line. So instead of just taking a shit on the story, and making the pvp cround happy, the developers chose to stick with the story. You have to respect that, even if you hate the game. Tell me that they wouldn't have sold more copies if there was an evil side to play?
And Monster play, hell, there's an original idea right there. Playing an evil alt that starts at 50 with the sole purpose of hunting good players, and all the while enhancing your main good character. That must have came right from WoW.
Oh, and how about housing? Real tangible houses and communities. True, they are instanced communties but they are fairly large and very cool. You actually own a home with neighbors and a community, complete with everything in the world in terms of decoration. I guess they took that from WoW also huh?
How about the deeds and title system? Right from WoW? The Family Generations? WoW also?
The fact is.. half of the people arguing on this topic have not even played the game, or played long enough to have an educated opinion. There is a lot of cool new ideas in this game.
And for the record, as I have stated before, I started my MMO carrer forged in teh fires of the greatest yet shittiest game ever created... Shadowbane. And I've played literally every MMO since. While they all take and borrow from each other, they all have aspects that make them fun to someone. Hell, I know a bunch of guys playing FLYFF and having a ball! I think that game is a piece of shit, but there is something about it they like...lol, takes all kinds.
The game is good ,has perfect graphics or close to.
The one thing i do dislike alot though is Codemasters running the game.
List of SOE lies
You admit you never played the game... heck you didn't even remember it existed. Then you state that LoTRo is a downgrade to AC2's fun?
Well there you go folks. That's what this forum deals with... day in and day out.
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
Well hell... who can argue with logic like that? If you're using this source... You can not. They know nothing....Very funny. I'm glad you know that they don't know. Thank christ someone knows something.
Let me try your logic... let me know what you think. k?
If you're listening to openedge1, you can not. He knows nothing. Boy.. that does feel right. Can I use that at work? Iol, I'm just funnin with ya bro.
Aside from that, I believe you are correct. Turbine is a privately held company and does not need to release financial information, however, publicly traded companies do have to release this information. So some information on that site may be accurate. As for LOTRO, they're probably questimating with sales figures.
NO ONE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF SUB's...
*PERIOD*
If your using MMOGData as your source...you cannot. They know nothing, and NO ONE knows except Turbine...who has stated they will not reveal these numbers...
So, this would be false information...until proven otherwise..
Thanks
Well hell... who can argue with logic like that? If you're using this source... You can not. They know nothing....Very funny. I'm glad you know that they don't know. Thank christ someone knows something.
Let me try your logic... let me know what you think. k?
If you're listening to openedge1, you can not. He knows nothing. Boy.. that does feel right. Can I use that at work? Iol, I'm just funnin with ya bro.
Aside from that, I believe you are correct. Turbine is a privately held company and does not need to release financial information, however, publicly traded companies do have to release this information. So some information on that site may be accurate. As for LOTRO, they're probably questimating with sales figures.
Heh... if you are new to the LoTRo forums you might not recognize openedge... he's a closet LoTRo lover and hates himself for it. He tries to stay away... even got himself a "vacation" once or twice because he loves it so much.He's just the latest incarnation of those that just can not resist the temptation that is LoTRo. They say they dislike the game and that they've moved on... yet their emotions show where their true love lies.
Good points Sir! You are a scholar and a gentlemen to boot!
Using AC2 as a reference for LoTRO isn't helping your argument. AC2 was a failure and I didn't even hear of the game until 6 months before it shut down. Once again, WoW is the only reasonable comparison here, since it was successful and has the same model. You don't go around claiming a current game stemmed from a failure. It's just bad for business.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
EQ2 came out BEFORE WoW...check release dates...But, I also agree in the fact that LOTRO is more simplistic and should be compared to WoW, as with EQ2, it is no contest of which game requires more thought and determination to learn the overall game...
Later
Either way, EQ2 and WoW were released too close together to be a clone of one another.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.