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There is not going to be an "open beta" just FC making stuff up.

I am very disappointed how they are trying to manipulate the term open beta by claiming giving more beta invites to forum veterans and contestant winners is some how "open beta". It is not and I am B.S that they think us so stupid do believe their crap.  Folks this is simply going to be a large closed beta.   I am getting more and more disappointed as the time for release nears with the antics they are giving us.

 

Will the NDA even be lifted before it goes live?   

 

If this will be a solid good product why not making it open beta for 1 week or a weekend. Show pride in their work and word of mouth is going to help sales.

 

I keep thinking that they are trying to hide things and quit frankly I am not sure if I should even pre order.

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  • ManicNinjaManicNinja Member Posts: 8

    Ever stop to think that it's possibly set up like that due to the fact that this is a mature rated MMORPG with nude and violent content? Also whose to say the NDA wont be lifted during the time of the open beta?

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812

    Oh gods. Give it a rest, will you. Just because you think you have the ultimate definition of open beta, doesn't mean it's the right one.

     

    FC clarified what they will be doing. Just quit making threads about this damn subject. -.-

  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    Originally posted by tbox


    I am very disappointed how they are trying to manipulate the term open beta by claiming giving more beta invites to forum veterans and contestant winners is some how "open beta". It is not and I am B.S that they think us so stupid do believe their crap.  Folks this is simply going to be a large closed beta.   I am getting more and more disappointed as the time for release nears with the antics they are giving us.
     
    Will the NDA even be lifted before it goes live?   
     
    If this will be a solid good product why not making it open beta for 1 week or a weekend. Show pride in their work and word of mouth is going to help sales.
     
    I keep thinking that they are trying to hide things and quit frankly I am not sure if I should even pre order.

    Open beta has NEVER meant free for all Trial session before a game goes live.  Its just the most common way that developers 'open beta'd' a game before it went live.   As long as the NDA is lifted its considered 'open' beta even if you have to belong to a particular sight in order to get a beta key. 

    If your not subscribed to one of the most commentregistration required sites (like File Planet) for beta's then go subscribe or wait for a list of all the sites that'll be part of the registration required Open Beta (come on if your interested in AoC your most definitly a veteran newsletter subscriber and pretty much gaurentee'd some form of play if they're going by registration).  

    Otherwise  just sit back and wait for the NDA to be lifted for the reviews to pour in(there has never been a game in the history of MMO's that didn't lift their NDA atleast a week to two weeks before Launch, any game that does this is basically pouring their blood into the water for sharks).

    Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  • JagerMichaelJagerMichael Member Posts: 181

    You shouldn't pre-order. You shouldn't even play the game. In fact, you should stop with MMOs all together. Wait, why stop there, forget the Internet. It's a waste of your mental capabilities and obvious other talents.

    I say it's time you cure cancer, or maybe put some of those green energy ideas down on paper.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Originally posted by singsofdeath


    Oh gods. Give it a rest, will you. Just because you think you have the ultimate definition of open beta, doesn't mean it's the right one.
     
    FC clarified what they will be doing. Just quit making threads about this damn subject. -.-
    To my knowledge this website, and its associated forums exist to supply the public with a place to find information and opinions about MMORPGs, be it from the companies, or the players.

    The day that his opinion is worth less than yours well thats the end of equality as we know it. So lets give the guy the right of having his own opinion, whether you like it or not.

  • JagerMichaelJagerMichael Member Posts: 181

    It's not an opinion, it's a misunderstanding of the facts and speculation.

    Big difference.

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

    This thread reminds me that I really need a rat's ass.  I just can't find anyone willing to give one away.  Can anyone help me?  Who's giving a rat's ass?  Anyone?

    (I'm just kidding.  I thought I had better add that just in case someone took me too seriously).  My real thoughts on the subject are that in 2 1/2 months, it won't matter whether or not there was an open beta.  We'll all be playing the live game.  WOOT!

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by Arcken


     
    Originally posted by singsofdeath


    Oh gods. Give it a rest, will you. Just because you think you have the ultimate definition of open beta, doesn't mean it's the right one.
     
    FC clarified what they will be doing. Just quit making threads about this damn subject. -.-
    To my knowledge this website, and its associated forums exist to supply the public with a place to find information and opinions about MMORPGs, be it from the companies, or the players.

     

    The day that his opinion is worth less than yours well thats the end of equality as we know it. So lets give the guy the right of having his own opinion, whether you like it or not.

      It's not about his opinion mattering less. It's the fact that yet -another- thread about this topic is started. There's bunches of threads already there where people like him have fun speculating about what FC might be hiding and so on and so forth. Why start up another? Any reason?

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Well , i dont know for you guys. But i couldnt help noticing the post that was erased yesterday.

    After reading that. Well ... i can kind of understand why there will be no open beta...



  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    Well , i dont know for you guys. But i couldnt help noticing the post that was erased yesterday.
    After reading that. Well ... i can kind of understand why there will be no open beta...
    And that was vastly outdated in area's and nothing like the footage i'll be putting up next week! betcha!

    OP. Its a controlled Open Beta for a reason. If you read they did say why.



  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    What can i say Avery. I hope you are right.

    Otherwise i will have to play LOTRO for long time



  • marmagmarmag Member UncommonPosts: 72

    lalalalalalala

    We have a 10 years old car and we want that this car is in a good shape. We rebild each part and put in some new tech. What we have at the end, when is time to show this car to other people.

    An old car with good performances.

    Be happy and don't worry,

     

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    Claiming there will be an OB would be a blatant lie, so the OP is right, I don't understand why they call it Open beta, guess its a bit more commercial than large closed beta~

    Anyways, let's see what avery comes with, tho im not really sure about him not being biased at this time, hard to be objective when you put too much effort.

  • bluealien1bluealien1 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    What can i say Avery. I hope you are right.
    Otherwise i will have to play LOTRO for long time

    I feel your pain, I too am suffering LotRO until AoC releases.

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  • Xris375Xris375 Member Posts: 1,005

    Originally posted by templarga


    I cannot believe these threads are still popping up. I mean are people never happy? I am almost getting sick reading these threads. I will try and explain this one more time and see if people, who seem to believe Funcom has something to hide or is lying or whatever,  can understand:
    1. No it is not a true open beta. They have enough people who applied to the beta that they can get people from that pool. Why advertise an fully open beta and create problems like we saw in WOW's open beta when they can control it and make it a worthwhile experience?
    2. Yes the NDA will be lifted. When I cannot say, but they have to release the NDA before launch. An NDA, as a legal document, is about the control of information and secrets (Funcom doesn't want people spilling the games secrets and surprises until launch so the community has something to look forward too) and there is no legal standing for an NDA once a product launches or goes public. The product would disclose itself (if that makes sense).
    3. They simply said that the open beta will have a certain registration process. In other words, they are not going to send the client to free download sites so everyone and his brother can signup. I for one applaud this because the people who really want to play and help the devs in the final stages of beta will be able too. Also, remember, they probably want to be careful given its a "M" rated game. I know if I was a dev and created an "M" rated MMO I would be concerned about putting the client out there so anyone could download and play. It would only take one parent yelling and screaming that their child downloaded an "M" rated game for free and easily to cause an uproar.
    FUNCOM IS NOT MAKING STUFF UP. They are allowed to define an open-beta how they see fit. Each company defines its open beta in certain ways. Some make you register, some make you signup for a newsletter or website, some just let you download the client. Funcom has defined their open beta in a way that best suits them and the gaming community who wants to play Age of Conan. They are allowed to do so and since they are the designers and devs, I think their definition of open beta is the one that matters.
    And if you still are upset and think they are making stuff up, I have a simple solution - don't buy it and don't play it.
    You give good advice. The NDA have to be liftet by the start of open beta or it wouldn't be open.

     

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    And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.’ ”
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  • U-TurnU-Turn Member UncommonPosts: 164

    I agree with their decision.  People treat open beta just as a free trial when the game is not ready yet.  This is one game where I don't care about open beta.  I will just wait for the game after all the testers work the bugs out.  That way it will be fresh and new when I enter it.

    Betas are never the same anyway as you can't play with your Guild or group of friends.

     

  • KrayzjoelKrayzjoel Member Posts: 906

    LOL! most of the time when an mmo will launch soon (usually within 1 year) they send out an open beta announcement..............

    These "open betas" are nothing more than survey or gauging attempt to fing out how many ppl are intrested in playing the game!

    Ive been in the open beta for WAR since August!!!! LOL all it shows is submittes and applied!!!!!!!!!! LOL

     

    Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
    Playing EVE Online and AOC.
    Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD

  • ArielAriel Member UncommonPosts: 33

    I always thought "open" meant open to testers who are not just employees, family, and friends.

     

    You don't sound like you really want to test the game. That's what beta is for, not free play. They said this week open beta will be tens of thousands of people.

     

    I can agree with the OP that at some point the NDA should be lifted to give fans access to testers' comments.

  • AczeroAczero Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by Ariel


    I always thought "open" meant open to testers who are not just employees, family, and friends.
     
    You don't sound like you really want to test the game. That's what beta is for, not free play. They said this week open beta will be tens of thousands of people.
     
    I can agree with the OP that at some point the NDA should be lifted to give fans access to testers' comments.

    Open beta just means that there is no NDA. You can post everything you hate/like about the game.

  • judgebeojudgebeo Member Posts: 419

    Originally posted by tbox


    I am very disappointed how they are trying to manipulate the term open beta by claiming giving more beta invites to forum veterans and contestant winners is some how "open beta". It is not and I am B.S that they think us so stupid do believe their crap.  Folks this is simply going to be a large closed beta.   I am getting more and more disappointed as the time for release nears with the antics they are giving us.
     
    Will the NDA even be lifted before it goes live?   
     
    If this will be a solid good product why not making it open beta for 1 week or a weekend. Show pride in their work and word of mouth is going to help sales.
     
    I keep thinking that they are trying to hide things and quit frankly I am not sure if I should even pre order.

    As already said on this link  I think there will be an open beta, what it says is that instead of be keys for everyone (like a free mmorpg) there will be keys to only for people they need to test and report bugs.

    If they put up one server for beta, instead the x servers of the release, its normal that there are not keys for everyone! its an open beta until there is no more space on it on servs. Think noone said that you will not get a key if you are not veteran, or you need to enter a contest...

    Sincerely, this seems to be a "moment of fury", chill out, dont get angry, and wait for the beta, then, if there are only few keys that can you get by contest, complain, but, dont say things that you (us) already dont know.

  • tboxtbox Member Posts: 372

    Almost all major MMOS have had Open beta meaning that anyone can download a key and play. So, please dont try to bullshit us with just free mmo's do that, that is simple not true.   Anyone who claims this is normal behavior for a major developed mmo is ignorant, Wow, vanguard, Lotro,. POBTS, Tabula Rista,  Ect.... All had Real Open Beta's not large final closed betas.

     

    We know from all other age sensetive  sites (porno ect) on the web that you just have to do an age confermation thingy why not put that in the beta download box before the download.   Its not because of the M rating.  

     

     Heres a thought why cant they just let pre orders into open beta?  Wait thats too smart and proven.  I am awaiting the on coming fanboi spin machine's response.

  • judgebeojudgebeo Member Posts: 419

     

    Originally posted by tbox


    Almost all major MMOS have had Open beta meaning that anyone can download a key and play. So, please dont try to bullshit us with just free mmo's do that, that is simple not true.   Anyone who claims this is normal behavior for a major developed mmo is ignorant, Wow, vanguard, Lotro,. POBTS, Tabula Rista,  Ect.... All had Real Open Beta's not large final closed betas.
     
    We know from all other age sensetive  sites (porno ect) on the web that you just have to do an age confermation thingy why not put that in the beta download box before the download.   Its not because of the M rating.  
     
     Heres a thought why cant they just let pre orders into open beta?  Wait thats too smart and proven.  I am awaiting the on coming fanboi spin machine's response.

     



    As said before. dont talk about "things" you just dont really know. Wait for the Open Beta release and then, if its not an open beta; complain. Still dont understand the problem;  is that you have to register? cause is the only think they said. Is that they said that there will be not as easy as click a download cause they wanna know how many of us are in the servers? do you understand that is a TEST ? and, suposing as you,  did you think that perhas they want to do an open beta but with only one server and cant afford too many people? What you want? do a closed one? only by contest? only friends?

    Cant understand  why people lets fly their imagination and take it as real things. Are you angry cause you are not in tomorrows beta? calm down, go and read a book, dont threat others as "fanbois", or what they say is "bullshit", just because dont think as you, if you wanna be respected, first, respect the others

     

    PS: also dont understand why you post the same thing in some different places... seems that you just want to make some noice, as you are calling your self "fanboi"... so...

  • JagerMichaelJagerMichael Member Posts: 181

    Originally posted by tbox


    Almost all major MMOS have had Open beta meaning that anyone can download a key and play. So, please dont try to bullshit us with just free mmo's do that, that is simple not true.   Anyone who claims this is normal behavior for a major developed mmo is ignorant, Wow, vanguard, Lotro,. POBTS, Tabula Rista,  Ect.... All had Real Open Beta's not large final closed betas.
     
    We know from all other age sensetive  sites (porno ect) on the web that you just have to do an age confermation thingy why not put that in the beta download box before the download.   Its not because of the M rating.  
     
     Heres a thought why cant they just let pre orders into open beta?  Wait thats too smart and proven.  I am awaiting the on coming fanboi spin machine's response.
    No, open beta doesn't mean anyone can download the game and play it. Once you learn to accept that you'll be much better off. Just because other companies have chosen to take it to that extent doesn't mean everyone does or has to. It's a marketing ploy and nothing else.

    And how do you know they aren't going to allow pre orders into beta? Maybe that will happen next month. Maybe that will happen in March. You don't know, so stop talking like you do.

    Bottom line is you're upset because you haven't gotten into beta. And apparently sucking on your thumb and stomping your feet hasn't been very effective so you decided to post here.

  • Hmmm, a restricted beta protected by NDA...............

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