WoW Economy

Slomo4shO · July 2004

Now the daunting question that comes to my mind is this:

Is there going to be a way in which items are removed from the economy ? Or will everyone have just about everything they will ever need within a few months of launching the game? (Diablo 2 softcore rings a bell, I myself played hardcore D2 where one lost items if they died but even then the loot system still enabled you to keep most of your gear.)

Has anyone heard any news on this ? I want to know what they are planing to keep the economy of the game alive.

Thanks for any feedback.

Slo

LoStCaUz3 · July 2004

I hope they have enough sence that if everyone starts seeking for one item then more than half of the population has that item, that they do something to make it less appealing or harder to acquire. It would be pretty stupid if a week after release, everyone is using the same armors, and weapons.

That's the type of thing that made playing D2 on just regular unpassworded games kind of stupid. Most the time it was just "Runs" like Blood Run or what ever it was called where everyone would get together and massacre everything in that whole part of the game to get good experience or good items. If this starts happening in WoW, I might have to quit just because it will take a lot of the fun out of the game.

I do believe that Blizzard will be smart enough to do something about this type of stuff in game, so I think the economy should stay in tact for a good time. As long as items don't go to Ebay for sale, I will be happy. It was so stupid to see something being sold there. In a game for real money. I almost cried when my friend first told me he bought something from someone on Ebay for a game. That is how hard I was laughing.

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paradise2 · July 2004

I read somewhere (on blizzard site?) that items will age with use and will eventually break and disintergrate. I don't know if that is true but i believe that if the item is not soulbound to your character that it will indeed over time go away. However for the quest items that become soulbound i believe that all of the same classes will have the same items if they use quest items. I don't know if this is right so feel free to flame me if i have just spat out some crap!!!

Odenathus · July 2004

Currently, in beta there is no item decay or breakage.

LoStCaUz3 · July 2004

Yeah that would make a nice tradeskill. Possibly added to blacksmithing. Have to repair your weapons and such for a certain amount of money and what not. I think it is a good idea that your weapons might wear away with time and use. And if you neglect it for too long, it could just break right in your hand and you will be stuck out in the wild with no weapon until you buy a new one. Ofcourse this would have to be added to armors and stuff. But then people might start complaining that they are taking this game down the road Diablo II came from and what not. Oh well, maybe this will be implemented and maybe it won't. Who knows other than Blizzard?

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Dracius · July 2004

Yeah, there's a way. It's called soulbinding. Player crafted items are bind on equip, certain really good drop items are bind on pick up, and some lesser ones are bind on equip. This means items are only going to be traded once, unless they're lower quality. Works great imo, crated items retain their value because players can't re-sell them over and over. Oh yeah, and so far I havn't seen durability on any items. I don't think they go away. That's why they're doing soulbinding, because there's no item decay.

Level 21 Troll Warrior and the economy seems fine thus far.

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Vakktn · July 2004

From what ive seen most of the "Good" items are soulbound most are bind on aquire and you cant trade those items. Most items on the auction houses are crap items, resources, and non bind on aquire items. You wont be seeing alot of uber items being traded cuz most of them like I said are bind on aquire. You will most likely have to hunt down and loot the item yourself if you want it.

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Lugnard · July 2004

Originally posted by Vakktn
From what ive seen most of the "Good" items are soulbound most are bind on aquire and you cant trade those items. Most items on the auction houses are crap items, resources, and non bind on aquire items. You wont be seeing alot of uber items being traded cuz most of them like I said are bind on aquire. You will most likely have to hunt down and loot the item yourself if you want it.

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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi

Like Vakktn said, most are bind on equip (loot anyways) and most quest items are bind on accquire. Bind on equip means you can still sell them but once someone equips them, the only way to get rid of it is either to destroy it or sell it to an NPC vendor. Bind on accquire means you can never trade it with anyone even if it isn't equiped.

Of course, this is subject to change but Blizzard doing it a smart way but having the most powerful items either only usable once or having them only be used by the person who picks it up.

HeFe · July 2004

I don't know about it, but I wouldn't mind paying a certain amount of gold to unbind a certain soulbound item.

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Vakktn · July 2004

I wouldnt wanna have an unbind option no matter how high the gold cost was cuz then that would just jack up prices for uber weapons and then everyone who can afford it would have the weapon with out even hunting for it which they shouldnt have in the first place cuz they are lazy mofos =P. I remember in SWG people were selling Holocrons for 5 million credits (thats a freaking buttload) once people found out it helps you unlock jedi. People made billions selling those and in doing so they could buy what ever the hell they wanted which IMO is stupid.

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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi

Dracius · July 2004

I don't know what you're talking about.. I'm in the beta and there ARE good items at the auction houses. Depends on your level. One level the best 2h axe I could get was from a quest, after that there was this awesome one in the auction house. End game all your gear will likely be the really unique bind on equip, but that takes a while to get all that. Even all the lvl 45-50 ppl I inspect still wear some bind on equip stuff that you can get at the auction houses...

Believe what ever you want though... That's yer right. =P

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Slomo4shO · July 2004

hmm

Thats a intersting concept, soulbinding, but it does leave me with a few concerns. Now this would leave the economy with a grip of lower class items and there would be no economy what so ever for the higher class items if they infact are all soulbound. Which futher leads to the question of how can someone aquire the better gear without investing crazy amount of hours into the game(work and school leaves little time for fun these days )

Thanks for your feed back guys, much apreciated. I havent participated in forum much for quite some time now (AoE comes to mind)

Slo

Vakktn · July 2004

Originally posted by Slomo4shO

hmm
Thats a intersting concept, soulbinding, but it does leave me with a few concerns. Now this would leave the economy with a grip of lower class items and there would be no economy what so ever for the higher class items if they infact are all soulbound. Which futher leads to the question of how can someone aquire the better gear without investing crazy amount of hours into the game(work and school leaves little time for fun these days )
Thanks for your feed back guys, much apreciated. I havent participated in forum much for quite some time now (AoE comes to mind)
Slo

I dunno what your playstyle is but most MMORPGs ive been in casual gamers (1-2 hours a day) usually dont max lvl or get certain items till months/years later then a powergamer (12+ hours a day) does. The only way youll get the uber gear is to put your time into either A) hunting and killing and hope you loot it or

Make enough gold/silver/copper to buy the items you want which probabaly takes just as long as if you were to hunt for it.... So either way youll be spending alot of time trying to get the items you want. This is of course for non bind on aquire items.... for bind on aquire items youll need to hunt for them yourself.

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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi

Slomo4shO · July 2004

I am not sure as to what type of player i am becoming myself . Online games are progressively becoming more and more of a community thing for me. I play with friends that i have known for years and we tend to play the same games . Ill wait and see as to what happens in WoW. All in all, Blizzard has only either meet or exceded my expecatation. This will be no different.

Slo

Odenathus · July 2004

Which futher leads to the question of how can someone aquire the better gear without investing crazy amount of hours into the game(work and school leaves little time for fun these days )

WoW seems to be designed with the casual gamer in mind. The Elite quest, which is the toughest for you to do, usually requires a group. This is normally a kill quest for a mob. I have yet to have an Elite quest take more than 30 minutes and most of that time was figuring out how to get on top of the hill where the mob was standing.

Quest rewards are either coin or gear (always experience).

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