6 billion people can't be wrong.

Deivos · January 2008

Not gonna post again in this thread, just wanted to put a clarification out about something many people seem to think makes something fact.

10,000 people can be wrong, and frequently are.

100,000 people can be wrong, and frequently are.

1,000,000 people can be wrong, and frequently are.

10,000,000 people can be wrong, and frequently are.

You get the picture. Many people can believe many things, that's what's great about the world. At the same time you have to consider that in any given situation there is really only one thing that will be able to stand as true and likely is very far from what most people are debating about.

When saying that a large number of people think the same thing as you, please remember that it means only one thing. You all have the same OPINION. Nothing more or less. It is not a fact based on sheer numbers. It is simply a matter of preference. That doesn't mean that opinion is the right one (unless it's a matter of what the majority likes), and likely means it has absolutely nothing do do with good tastes or facts.

Cargo_Shark · January 2008

...to every mutant who says IMHO into their chat bars like it means something

I've never been to an opera--but i could tell you what i think about them

Ive never been to Cananda--but i could tell you what i think about Canadians

I've never owned a Ferrari, or a Porshe--but I could tell you definatively which one is "better"

i could go on and on and on and on.........................opinions mean nothing

GreenHell · January 2008

Opinions are not fact but to say they mean nothing is wrong. Popular opinion of something usually has more influence over the masses than fact does. Popular opinion can make a fortune or lose one. Since money equals power the opinion of the masses should never be underestimated.

We all experience things differently and have different reactions to those experiences. I am not foolish enough to think that my opinions are going to mirror your own or that my opinions are in any way a fact. However to over look another persons opinion as useless because it has no hard evidence to back it up seems to be a bit foolish.

Democracy is built on opinion. How does someone get elected to a postion? In an election the one who gets the most votes wins and what is a vote if not a way to exercise your opinion? People spend millions of dollars to sway your opinion in their favor. So opinion is a very powerful thing indeed.

CleffyII · January 2008

I hate to break it to you but 6 billion people can't be wrong, because there would be no one left to be thier opposition.

Czzarre · January 2008

Before 1000 AD the world was flat. That was a fact and beyond dispute at the time

Torrential

Kyleran · January 2008

Originally posted by Czzarre

Before 1000 AD the world was flat. That was a fact and beyond dispute at the time
Torrential

Er....no, apparently this isn't true.

Taken from this entry in Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Recent scholarship, particularly since the 1990s,^[2] argues that "with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat" and that the prevailing view was of a spherical earth.[1

Vincenz · January 2008

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Czzarre

Before 1000 AD the world was flat. That was a fact and beyond dispute at the time
Torrential

Er....no, apparently this isn't true.

Taken from this entry in Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Recent scholarship, particularly since the 1990s,^[2] argues that "with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat" and that the prevailing view was of a spherical earth.[1

OK then, 6 billion people believed Iraq had WMD...how's that

Godliest · January 2008

Here is the reason behind why WoW had such a success.

Sovren1 · January 2008

Oooooh! What happens when your opinion is fact? Or you only have an opinion because of a fact? Or your opinion of a fact is fact? Since it's fact can you not have an opinion that echoes a fact? What happens when fact is a fact because of an opinion? If fact is truth, what happens when untruth is an opinionated fact?

W/e...answer truthfully (YES or NO), will the next word you say be NO?

Alij777 · January 2008

Now lets apply this "6 billion people can't be wrong" to religion for fun. Let the battle begin :P.

Liddokun · January 2008

My favorite quote on this topic so far is "Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has them."

Jsteiner · January 2008

I don't see the point in discriminating fact from opinion on this site. Very few arguments about MMO's are over facts.

...Plus the only people who can provide absolute truths in the universe are Mathematics professors.

Hrothmund · January 2008

To the OP:

I don't see the point in your post. Yes 10 million people can be wrong, no doubt about that. However, the fact that 10 million people agree about a certain matter most probably means there' s some quality about the the subject matter that is generally easy to adopt or agree with. Where there's smoke, there is usually a fire.

If you are referring to WoW's 10 million subscribers, I have this to type. You may not like WoW, there are certain polarizing aspects of the game that divide most of us either into lovers or haters of the title. However, you can not argue that the game is not a good game to the the ten million active subscribers. Just because some people get a kick out of the game, does not mean you have to.

Hrothmund · January 2008

Originally posted by Godliest

Here is the reason behind why WoW had such a success.

Why the past tense? Currently, WoW IS a succes.

rikilii · January 2008

Originally posted by Sovren1

Oooooh! What happens when your opinion is fact?
Then it's a fact, not an opinion.
Or you only have an opinion because of a fact?
Then it's still only an an opinion, and it has no bearing on the truth of the "fact" or lack thereof.
Or your opinion of a fact is fact?
Then, once again, it's a fact, not an opinion.
Since it's fact can you not have an opinion that echoes a fact?
It's still not an opinion, if you're just regurgitating fact.
What happens when fact is a fact because of an opinion?
It may be a "fact" that your opinion is what it is. But your opinion is still, in fact, just an opinion.
If fact is truth, what happens when untruth is an opinionated fact?
If fact were fiction,

or fiction were fact,

it still wouldn't tell you,

the truth that you lack
W/e...answer truthfully (YES or NO), will the next word you say be NO?
It will not.

Satisfied?

rikilii · January 2008

Originally posted by Alij777

Now lets apply this "6 billion people can't be wrong" to religion for fun. Let the battle begin :P.

Please take it on FAITH, that religious beliefs are opinions, and that's a fact.

paulscott · January 2008

WoW is fun to enough people. denial does nothing but make you look like an idiot.

as for being fun, it's fun to enough people to get to the "interest generates interest" category.

rikilii · January 2008

Originally posted by Hrothmund

To the OP:
I don't see the point in your post. Yes 10 million people can be wrong, no doubt about that. However, the fact that 10 million people agree about a certain matter most probably means there' s some quality about the the subject matter that is generally easy to adopt or agree with. Where there's smoke, there is usually a fire.
There are 9 million scientologists. That, in my OPINION, doesn't make it any more likely that Xenu, ruler of the Galactic Confederacy, brought billions of people to Earth 75 million years ago in spacecraft resembling DC-8 airliners.

If you are referring to WoW's 10 million subscribers, I have this to type. You may not like WoW, there are certain polarizing aspects of the game that divide most of us either into lovers or haters of the title. However, you can not argue that the game is not a good game to the the ten million active

I don't really like WoW that much at the moment, but I'm still a subscriber. In my opinion, $15 a month is not enough to make me want to bother canceling my subscription.

Sovren1 · January 2008

Originally posted by rikilii
Originally posted by Sovren1
Oooooh! What happens when your opinion is fact?

Then it's a fact, not an opinion.
Or you only have an opinion because of a fact?
Then it's still only an an opinion, and it has no bearing on the truth of the "fact" or lack thereof.
Or your opinion of a fact is fact?
Then, once again, it's a fact, not an opinion.
Since it's fact can you not have an opinion that echoes a fact?
It's still not an opinion, if you're just regurgitating fact.
What happens when fact is a fact because of an opinion?
It may be a "fact" that your opinion is what it is. But your opinion is still, in fact, just an opinion.
If fact is truth, what happens when untruth is an opinionated fact?
If fact were fiction, or fiction were fact,
it still wouldn't tell you,
the truth that you lack
W/e...answer truthfully (YES or NO), will the next word you say be NO?
It will not.
Satisfied?

NOpe!!! Good going on every piece except the last.

Sovren1 · January 2008

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xenogias · January 2008

Originally posted by rikilii

Originally posted by Alij777

Now lets apply this "6 billion people can't be wrong" to religion for fun. Let the battle begin :P.

Please take it on FAITH, that religious beliefs are opinions, and that's a fact.

HEHE how right you are. Though dont tell that to certain people. They may want to kill you for not believing like they do.

daarco · January 2008

Originally posted by xenogias

Originally posted by rikilii

Originally posted by Alij777

Now lets apply this "6 billion people can't be wrong" to religion for fun. Let the battle begin :P.

Please take it on FAITH, that religious beliefs are opinions, and that's a fact.

HEHE how right you are. Though dont tell that to certain people. They may want to kill you for not believing like they do.

If we are to talk about religion, believing, faith and opinions. I will only say this:

When YOU understand why YOU dismiss all other gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Yes, im a atheist. (i live in swedish)

Trand · January 2008

Originally posted by Vincenz

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Czzarre

Before 1000 AD the world was flat. That was a fact and beyond dispute at the time
Torrential

Er....no, apparently this isn't true.

Taken from this entry in Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Recent scholarship, particularly since the 1990s,^[2] argues that "with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat" and that the prevailing view was of a spherical earth.[1

OK then, 6 billion people believed Iraq had WMD...how's that

Nah only about 300 Million

Classicstar · January 2008

hmm 95% of world population believe in some sort of god supremebeing, im ateist my whole life ive never doubt evolution, so what im saying is those 95% are wrong and im right.Thats freedom of speech i have.

So 10million is surtenly not a number that is a guarentee wow is good, i say its a bad game, sure those 10million think its good, that's there right to say so, same as i say its not, simple as that.

So make a topic saying 10million can't be wrong, is there for false hehe.

As long im not forced or in danger of been a ateist or dont believe in wow or a god, im fine with that, people can think they believe in a god or wow is there right.

Thats freedom of speech well in holland i still can to surten point saying, im a ateist and god don't excist.

Always funny to see peeps try there believe force upon others, its pathetic but OP proofs again that many are among us tryingthis tactic:(.

Qmire · January 2008

Love or Hate WoW.... just don't try to force your opinion onto those who doesn't agree with your views.

All the time, do you hear some twat or two, whose talking about how inferior wow is and how a chimp could be rank 1 in the arena or could be in the the best pve guilds of WoW.

Fine you hate WoW, we get it.... Now go and leave those, who enjoy the game, at peace, from your stupid opinion.

Your claims didn't do anything but being annoying, like the old senile neighbour, who complaints about your yard being different compared to his/hers. You don't need or want the neighbours opinion about your yard because simply put, you like it how it is and while you don't complain about his/hers yard, the neigbour keeps complaining about yours, which just made your fine day turn into a /sigh if only for a second but still very annoying and unneeded.

Sometimes people complain just to complain about something, lack of attention?

I guess there's some irony in this, because should i have followed this myself, then i should ofcourse just have left it alone but hey, when some dude says the color i like, is shit, i'll quickly tell him to STFU and mind him his own business, with a smile ofcourse.

I mean no one here is forcing you to play WoW or any other game people like, do they?

Classicstar · January 2008

Originally posted by Qmire

Love or Hate WoW.... just don't try to force your opinion onto those who doesn't agree with your views.

All the time, do you hear some twat or two, whose talking about how inferior wow is and how a chimp could be rank 1 in the arena or could be in the the best pve guilds of WoW.

Fine you hate WoW, we get it.... Now go and leave those, who enjoy the game, at peace, from your stupid opinion.
Your claims didn't do anything but being annoying, like the old senile neighbour, who complaints about your yard being different compared to his/hers. You don't need or want the neighbours opinion about your yard because simply put, you like it how it is and while you don't complain about his/hers yard, the neigbour keeps complaining about yours, which just made your fine day turn into a /sigh if only for a second but still very annoying and unneeded.

Sometimes people complain just to complain about something, lack of attention?

I guess there's some irony in this, because should i have followed this myself, then i should ofcourse just have left it alone but hey, when some dude says the color i like, is shit, i'll quickly tell him to STFU and mind him his own business, with a smile ofcourse.

I mean no one here is forcing you to play WoW or any other game people like, do they?

You proof again to be majority who cant take critics becouse we say your baby is ugly.

If you look up all forum topics and start counting how you wow fanbois say your game is best and rest sucks you know what i mean, dont be so hypocrit.

I still live in free country so i say my opinion like it or not kid.

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