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1 less reason for vets to hate the NGE coming soon!

GutboyGutboy Member Posts: 630

From a dev post today by :

AdeptStrain wrote:

So, I was going to save this for the dev chat tonight - but instead maybe it'll generate more questions.



So yesterday I actually fixed an issue where skill animations for 1 handed swords/lightsabers and 2 handed swords/lightsabers weren't getting loaded correctly. You'll notice, once the update patch hits at the end of this cycle, that if you do a skill with one of those weapons - you'll get a proper animation instead of just sitting there like a bump on a log. I was doing a 4 hit combo animation(old school TK style) yesterday with my spy using Assassinate and I have to say it looked great.



What does that mean for the future? Well, it depends if your skill + weapon already has an animation assigned to it. Some classes *cough* Jedi *cough* have had their animations completely screwed up, but it is something Blixtev and myself are going to try and add back in soon. Its just a matter of finding animations that fit the new speed and trying a few things out. The point is we are making some great progress with regard to animation and hopefully things will be looking much better soon.



I'll be at the chat tonight so bring all your animation questions and join in.

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  • troydavidtroydavid Member Posts: 150

    How bad is a game, that after it has been released for what -over five years, people get excited about an animation fix.  Seriously.

    Only in SWG.

     

    T

  • blotzblotz Member UncommonPosts: 99

    "1 less reason for vets to hate the NGE coming soon!"

    oh boy this is so funny

    so soe broke the animation system in a  patch more then 2 years ago

     

    and you are here to praise the fact that they will announce " that it will soon be fixed" ?

     

    well thats priceless  ... thank you very much for the info

     

    ps.  i still try to recover from the laught attack

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    The NGE is a failure, total crapfest. It's kinda funny that people that still play thinks that just because the devs of the game had to hire a PI to find the guys that learned how to mod aniamtions back into the game that will work in the NGE system, think that vet players will want to hurry up and resub or something.

    Let me expalin it in the most simple terms for all the NGE fanbois. IF SOE CREATED CLASSIC SERVERS AND OR REROLLED BACK, WITH MAYBE A YR FREE IN SUB FEE, MAYBE AND A BIG MAYBE VETS WOULD ETURN, GOT IT.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    Originally posted by musicmann


    The NGE is a failure, total crapfest. It's kinda funny that people that still play thinks that just because the devs of the game had to hire a PI to find the guys that learned how to mod aniamtions back into the game that will work in the NGE system, think that vet players will want to hurry up and resub or something.
    Let me expalin it in the most simple terms for all the NGE fanbois. IF SOE CREATED CLASSIC SERVERS AND OR REROLLED BACK, WITH MAYBE A YR FREE IN SUB FEE, MAYBE AND A BIG MAYBE VETS WOULD ETURN, GOT IT.

    Now they only have to recode 32 professions, item decay, a real combat system, a real GCW.... (insert endless list here)

  • rejadrejad Member Posts: 346

    Its a step in the right direction but there's more they have to do in order to win back my sub.

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287

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    Seriously? 

     

    Yes, the vets will be TRULY appeased now that animations are being fixed. 

     

    I hate being overly sarcastic (Because it numbs people to my everyday, acceptable sarcasm), but thats a pretty long reach as far as hopes go bub.  So far that I'm not even going to flame or bring up "past" issues.  I'm just gonna chuckle and wonder whether or not SOE is drugging its current subscribers.

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    It's not that the animations were missing from the NGE that has kept me away.

    It's the NGE itself.

  • PrinnySquadPrinnySquad Member Posts: 90

    I may be reaching here, but I believe most ex -Star Wars Galaxies players want the skill, combat, and other systems back, not an animation fix.

  • MonroeMonroe Member Posts: 15

     AHHAHA oh god I am rolling at the post today so much I have to reply.

    Who are you really ............an SOE employee ready to get shit canned becasue the NGE and SWG is that bad or BIOWARE is going to announce what everyone thinks.

    Animatians please.................GAYYYYYYYYY come on man the game is what really needs help not the animations at this point.  I am willing to bet that vets would put  up with crappy animations and 32 professions than animations with 9 ICONIC piece of crap ideas.

     

    The Pissed off BH

  • Thunder_birdThunder_bird Member Posts: 47

    you guys make me ROFL everytime, ive seen plenty an argument by you people that a bad thing about NGE is the removal of animations, now you guys are saying you didnt want animations

    lol...just lol...

  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Originally posted by Thunder_bird


    you guys make me ROFL everytime, ive seen plenty an argument by you people that a bad thing about NGE is the removal of animations, now you guys are saying you didnt want animations
    lol...just lol...
    There is much more to a game then just it's animations.Sure animations help a little, but it's still about the basic gameplay, loot based economy, and limited classes that is what's holding SWG back IMO.

    In all the chances I've had to play for free in the last 2 years I cannot shake the feeling of being locked into a class. I feel imprisoned, and that combined with the very unsatisfactory combat makes leveling a toon quite unbearable for me.

    I've had a glimpse of something better, and will always look forward now instead of back to the antiquated level/loot gamestyle.

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Originally posted by Thunder_bird


    you guys make me ROFL everytime, ive seen plenty an argument by you people that a bad thing about NGE is the removal of animations, now you guys are saying you didnt want animations
    lol...just lol...
    Of course, you're being a bit, um, narrow in your assessment, given that crappy animations are just ONE of the multiple sins of the NGE.

    Mind you, there are a ton of animations that we loved that won't come back even with this change.  For example, the wonderful Commando firing a rocket animation.

    There is so much that the dumbasses of SOE casually tossed away (aside from over 100,000 paying customers) in perpetrating the abomination that is the NGE.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

    Once a denizen of Ahazi

  • iwantmyswgiwantmyswg Member Posts: 301

    they wouldn't need to bring that back if they just rolled the game back to the pre-cu.

     

  • joeybootsjoeyboots Member UncommonPosts: 628
    Originally posted by iwantmyswg


    they wouldn't need to bring that back if they just rolled the game back to the pre-cu.
     



    Yahtzee!! Simple and effective, I like it!

  • GutboyGutboy Member Posts: 630

    This is why I had as the thread title ONE reason. In reading the thousands of posts on SGW and the NGE a vast majority have listed this reason (as one of many) as a reason to not play. They are changing the loot based economy as well, ALL the new high end weapons and other items from the heroic encounters are in schematic form and do require a crafter to make them and to use the best resources to max them out.

    I am sorry if the devs fixing things the player base wants and adding content upsets people.

    By the way the new gunboats rock. Get in a fully crewed gunboat and it can lay major hurt on anything PvE or PvP wise.

  • eosyneeosyne Member UncommonPosts: 392

    Originally posted by Gutboy


    This is why I had as the thread title ONE reason. In reading the thousands of posts on SGW and the NGE a vast majority have listed this reason (as one of many) as a reason to not play. They are changing the loot based economy as well, ALL the new high end weapons and other items from the heroic encounters are in schematic form and do require a crafter to make them and to use the best resources to max them out.
    I am sorry if the devs fixing things the player base wants and adding content upsets people.
    By the way the new gunboats rock. Get in a fully crewed gunboat and it can lay major hurt on anything PvE or PvP wise.
    roll back to pre-nge pre-cu and no one would be upset.

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

     

    Originally posted by Gutboy


    From a dev post today by :
    AdeptStrain wrote:


    So, I was going to save this for the dev chat tonight - but instead maybe it'll generate more questions.



    So yesterday I actually fixed an issue where skill animations for 1 handed swords/lightsabers and 2 handed swords/lightsabers weren't getting loaded correctly. You'll notice, once the update patch hits at the end of this cycle, that if you do a skill with one of those weapons - you'll get a proper animation instead of just sitting there like a bump on a log. I was doing a 4 hit combo animation(old school TK style) yesterday with my spy using Assassinate and I have to say it looked great.



    What does that mean for the future? Well, it depends if your skill + weapon already has an animation assigned to it. Some classes *cough* Jedi *cough* have had their animations completely screwed up, but it is something Blixtev and myself are going to try and add back in soon. Its just a matter of finding animations that fit the new speed and trying a few things out. The point is we are making some great progress with regard to animation and hopefully things will be looking much better soon.



    I'll be at the chat tonight so bring all your animation questions and join in.

     

    Adeptstrain looking absolutely ridiculous  posting this. C'mmon countless times we told them PRE CU animations let looking your actions smoothly and not looking like " just sitting there like a bump on a log"

    Now after 3 years he "discovered" that a 4 hit combo "looking great".  LOL 

    looking blank-faced, anyway  next step get rid of spy and bring back TKM this is cool also  like the animation of  TKM  and while you at it get rid of all classes and bring the skill base system back.

    Oh  btw the cool Jedi animations  should be performed by a cool Jedi template. So please  remove this Jedi joke and bring back the Jedi that deserve to perform the cool animations.

     

    AdeptStrain if you liked the animations that much you will love the skilled professions behind those, it is so much left to discover  in the PRE CU version. 

     



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  • PrinnySquadPrinnySquad Member Posts: 90

    Originally posted by Gutboy


    This is why I had as the thread title ONE reason. In reading the thousands of posts on SGW and the NGE a vast majority have listed this reason (as one of many) as a reason to not play.

    R-Really ... ?

    Losing the skill system, that makes sense to quit over.

    I can't believe people would quit over a little animation issue though.

  • Mupp3nMupp3n Member Posts: 56

    Originally posted by PrinnySquad


     
    Originally posted by Gutboy


    This is why I had as the thread title ONE reason. In reading the thousands of posts on SGW and the NGE a vast majority have listed this reason (as one of many) as a reason to not play.

     

    R-Really ... ?

    Losing the skill system, that makes sense to quit over.

    I can't believe people would quit over a little animation issue though.

    Why quit playing after they implemented a feature?

    Or new Combat system or whatever, try the game for 5-10 hours before saying; Noes sucks /goes playing wow!! 

    Its almost like saying "omg nerfed my class --> Quits Gaming"

    Well, not really. Anyhow its a good game, and its nice theyre atleast Trying to fix things and add animations etc.. but still people give negative opinions about the company, ofcourse the company wouldnt listen to the customers anymore..

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162

    It's not that I'm mad (anymore) at what SWG has become, it's I just don't care. Even if SOE did a rollback or started a classic server, after 2+ years I've pretty much moved on in  my gaming life.

  • FikusOfAhaziFikusOfAhazi Member Posts: 1,835

    About time.

    See you in the dream..
    The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.

  • AvosAvos Member Posts: 69

    2 years and finally a big whopping animation fix...  Hmmmm...

    Stockholm Syndrome.

    I don't see what this has to do with Vets.

  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,848

    As much as I hate what SOE did with the game you have to loo into the devs statement "Some classes *cough* Jedi *cough* have had their animations completely screwed up". So here we have a dev who fesses up the truth and actually is fixing a bug which is pretty cool. I am really glad he took some pride in his accomplishment.

    They should just release a classic server for us vets who put soooo much time into SWG and keep working on the NGE version of SWG.  Just release one and assign a small team to the classic server that can apply updates, fixes, and so forth upon it.  I have a feeling that subscriptions would rocket for SWG yet SOE would turn a blind eye to the development of anything new for a classic server.  What a mess.

     

  • troydavidtroydavid Member Posts: 150

     

     

    The point, my point at least, isn't even at all about the fact that it is SWG and all the baggage that comes with that; is is plainly this:

    Could you Imagine if in any other MMO, especially an 'A' lister, tried to get their player base excited, after five years of released game time, about the fact that one can now see their character actually use the *insert anything here*.  Seriously.

    If WOW, for example, in their next patch somehow lost the animation of the dwarven hunter using his rifle, this site would be on fire.  If PoTBS was released without the sword fighting animations the site would be on fire.  If the magic color "bursts" animation disappeared from EQ2, this site would be on fire. 

    Why then does SWG still have advocates whose arguments are basically "look, their trying."

    And I state this argument not from any deep seated animosity toward the game itself or the company, I (as have all vets) have put that aspect away.  Its just the fact that if it were any other title, the sh!t they pull would not be tolerated even as a joke and how people continue to pay for the game monthly is mind boggling. 

    With that being said, don't tell us, me specifically, that I sould 'resub' and try it out now.  If anyone described this game to me with any other name, well it go thusly: If any one were to come up to me tomorrow, and tell me "hey buddy, I have a great game for you to try, its five years old, so the community's there, well kind of, I mean, their commited, but there's not like a whole bunch of them, and they have all the bugs worked out, well except they really don't have an animation for wielding a sword, but don't worry, they are fixing that tomorrow.  Oh and they continually add content, well not really much new, but just a bunch of stuff they TOOK OUT OF THE GAME 2 years ago. . . . etc"  I would laugh in their face and tell them to blow out of their @ss.

     

    T

  • MathosMathos Member Posts: 897
    Originally posted by Suvroc


    It's not that the animations were missing from the NGE that has kept me away.
    It's the NGE itself.



     Dito why play a poor wow clone when you can play wow and thats what im doing, i dont like wow or swg, but wows very well done,oh and 8 mill subs to boot groups are not a problem there lol...

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