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Warrior/Paladin - Only good melee?
pingo
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I can understand that Warrior is a tank and a Paladin is a tank with heals, but what about the other classes?
Are they all just totally useless with a 2 handed sword like druid, priest, hunter and such?
I just thought that warriors and paladins could take more damage, but now i hear that none of the other classes, except for Rouge maybe is worth going melee with?
Is this true? Cause i really want a big two handed sword, but would have liked something else for my class like druid forms or stealth!:)
Anyone who can confirm this?:=)
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I think the role of a Paladin or Warrior is to be able to take lots of damage so that other weaker members of a group such as a priest or mage who may not be the most powerful fighter can stand back and cast healing or buffs.
I am guessing that a Paladins or Warriors strength is actually its strength where as other classes will have different strengths. But i guess i won't know for sure until i get in the beta
Pingo, where did you hear this information? While it is true that not every class is as adept with melee weapons as the Warrior or Paladin is, doesn't mean they are bad at soloing. Blizzard has tried to give each class the ability to solo almost as well as others.
The Hunter will be good for the same reason as the Warlock. They each have pets that can tank for them. The hunter can use Range and Melee weaponry while the Warlock always has his spells.
The Rogue can solo just because it gains stealth at level one and can get the jump on its prey. Not to mention when you acquire backstab, you can deal out massive damage and the damage only gets higher as you gain more skills.
The druid has its shape shifting spells and also the ability to heal itself. Also all the spells for damage it can cast when not shape shifted.
Priest has spells that have positive effects on allies and negative effects on enemies. So those spells can help him in soloing.
The mage is a stacked class. It can assume the role of major classes like the Rogue. It also has nuke spells that can be cast on one enemy.
The Shaman has nature spells and can also summon totems to help them in battle.
So any class can solo it is just a matter of building on that classes specific skills to make it better at soloing. For instance, you wouldn't want to train your healing spells too high if your a priest if you plan on soloing. Atleast not until you get your more damaging spells.
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"now i hear that none of the other classes, except for Rouge maybe is worth going melee with?"
No, a number of the other classes have some melee ability: Druids, Shamans, Rogues, even Warlocks. Weapon selection, however, IS limited by class, so a Warlock will not have as many choices as a Warrior.
"The Rogue can solo just because it gains stealth at level one and can get the jump on its prey."
Except that stealth is still VERY underpowered, with monsters and players able to see through it easily. Stealth needs to be improved greatly and mage invis needs to be decreased in power a great deal.
All of the skills, like healing skills for example, only cost money to train... so if you have the money, why not train them?
I'm enjoying the rogue right now... lots of different ways to fight.. but not nearly as potent as the warrior.. especially due to talents. Rogues can dish out the same amount of damage.. but their defense blows. Not to mention that the major damage dealing skill for rogues is broken atm.
I also have a shaman... He's decent in melee... but he doesn't have specific melee skills like the rogue, warrior, or paladin.
My 23 warrior pal just whupped up on a couple guys near his lvl.. I don't see why it wouldn't be worth going melee... considering that's pretty much your only option
(no shooting -skills- )
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
Its just that I heard that Warriors are very generic. They dont have any cool shapeshifting skills or anything that makes them stand out with cool non combat abillities, or abillities that can be used for something else than combat.
Maybe thats what racial traits and trade skills are for... Im just affraid I will be the "standard" if i go warrior!
Does not require any real tactics but just about getting good weapons and equipment! Or so i heard...
Just makes me a little ehh.. I think the Night elfs are pretty cool with does pointy ears
So thats what i wanna be i think! Just not much choice then, though!
Thx for your replys
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
Warriors are fun as well.. Mine is only 15, but I still enjoy what I do. Unfortunatly, it is a little cut-and-dry as to whether or not you can win... with mages/rogues/some of the other classes there's always a chance if it works out just perfect you can kill w/taking very little damage... Guess what I'm trying to say is that the warrior (at lvl 15) is very straightforward to play.
I always hear ppl complaining about mages being uber beyond uber... but if you play your class perfect, and the other guy falters even just a little, you'll come out ahead.
I had no problem beating a mage... first time he said he "wasn't really trying" ... so the second time I beat him... he didn't say anything... just walked off.. hehehe.
He was lvl 17.
Anywho... You wont be bored with warrior... unless you actually wanted a rogue to begin with. I enjoy the warrior... it's certainly not boring, that's for certain.
-Nylian
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Rogue is an outstanding melee class with a bunch of other abilities.
They can sneak up behind a mob and knock it out for a decent period of time.
They can scout places that other's can't.
They can use their combo points to unleash insanely high damage finishing moves.
They can dual-wield.
But no they can't use a 2hs as effectively (can't remember if it's a buyable skill or not). It's just not a rogue thing. If you want to use a 2hs, you pretty much gotta go Warrior or Paladin. A warrior's huge 2hs does not outdamage the rogues pokers unless the rogue is doing something seriously wrong, but the war can pretty much stand there and take a huge beating without so much as flinching, while a rogue needs to pick his battles carefully and keep the right position in the fight. Be agile. Like... a rogue.
It remains to be seen what hunters will have, but ranged melee like guns and bows is rumored to be one of their strengths. That and taming animals. No one knows how they will be up close, but I would suspect that they would be more likely to be proficient at ranged attacks, given the association of the name Hunter with guns and bows.
Hopefully we'll all know more in a few weeks.
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Right...
So its more like I gotta think it like this: All classes is just selecting a way to kill.
Spells, casters, summon, pets, melee, ranged and so on right?
Well.. Of does things i like to kill with melee.. So yeahh I guss Warrior is for me!
I just think its wired that everybody can be a warrior! Even does little gnomes...!!! I can see it would make sense for a gnome to be a Rouge. fast and little in the shadows, easy to avoid and see... but a warrior!
I even hear that Gnomes kill Tauren easily cause they are so small and does the same amount of damage! I just think thats plane wrong..
Stuff like tauren warrior should do much more damage than a human warrior IMO!
It was so sad that in SWG it did not really matter what race you played.. no real difference! Well.. of course Wookies where screwed bad(couldnt wear armor
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but how many weapon styles can you train in to the max? Can i specialize in 2-3 styles, like two handed swords, spears and dual wield to the max lvl? or will i only be able to specialize in one weapon?
And what about bow and crossbows for warriors?:o can they be used? and would they be usefull?
I watched a tiny little kid beat up three football stars in my school. It was the greatest thing. The coach kicked them off the team. Not for fighting but for all three of them getting beat up by one kid. I am trying to say is size doesn't matter.
Has anyone heard of Mike Valley, the skater guy? There was a video of him wailing on three guys because they called him a 'Skater fag.' They had every advantage over him. Size, numbers, strength. But some how, he manage to beat them all down. So yeah, more with the size doesn't matter thing.
But I guess it doesn't belong in a video game, huh?
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I see your point:)
But I was looking at Rouge and it looks pretty skill based, with making your own combos? Variation in combat..
Well.. How many weapon skills can you max out?
Is it something like each time you wanna advance in your dagger skill you must use 5 skill points at a rouge trainer, or do you just need a "make-it-useable" certfication buy?
Dual wield daggers looks cool.. maybe mix with bow, and you got a great spy NE?:) - A bit like Lord of the rings, Legolas dude!:) But will they die very fast with only leather armor? But if people wants to go dual wield with a sword or mace in off hand, they cant do backstab and that kind of stuff?
Im not really the type that likes to be uber or god, but just look cool with my characters..
(Fishing also works good with rouge right?)
Thx for posting mate! This is a great site....:)
Well.. How many weapon skills can you max out?
Think there's like 5 or 6.
Is it something like each time you wanna advance in your dagger skill you must use 5 skill points at a rouge trainer, or do you just need a "make-it-useable" certfication buy?
No, you start out with the dagger skill, and you become more proficient with it as you use them. I plan to get guns soon.. though it costs 200 skill points. But that's cool, b/c you get an unlimited number of skill points... you just get those from killing mobs. Bows cost 100. Alchemy skill costs 10, fishing costs 5 (I think) Herbalism costs 5.... etc. After you have the skill, it goes up as you use it.
But if people wants to go dual wield with a sword or mace in off hand, they cant do backstab and that kind of stuff?
Yes, but you MUST have a dagger in the main hand.
But will they die very fast with only leather armor?
Only if you play stupid. But then, if you play stupid, you die fast in plate.
(Fishing also works good with rouge right?)
Any character can get harvesting and crafting skills.
Hope that helps
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