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War is a WOW Clone Oh My!!!
Ravkeen
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Everyday we hear the same thing Warhammer is a World of Warcraft clone. But we never ever get any feedback on why it's a clone. But I will give my feedback on why it's not a clone and I will go in deep with my point of view.
1. Graphics Everyone say Warhammer looks like WOW lets look at some screenshots.
Just by looking at those I can tell both games look like they are run on 2 different engines which they both games are. So they are not a clone in that way hmmm. 
2. Races. Both games have Orcs, Humans, Elves and Dwarfs. But last time I check Warhammer Table Top had Humans, Elves, Orcs and Dwarfs hmmm.
3. Public Quests. Warhammer have public quest but WOW doesn't have it hmmm.
4. Career Mastery both games have this in a way but it's setup a little different. But Dark Age of Camelot have almost the same thing 3 paths you can spec in of your choice. Example DAOC Wizard can go Path of Earth, Path of Ice, and Path of Fire. Eldritch Way of the Sun, Way of the Moon, and Way of the Eclipse hmmm.
5. Quest/ PVE Hell every game has that so hmmmm.
6. RVR EAMythic throne of war no game has that but DAOC hmmmm.
7. Classes Warhammer has 12 unique classes WOW has none. A human warlock is the same as a undead warlock and so on. Oh yeah hmmmm.
8. Tome of Knowledge another game unique. hmmmm.
9. PVP Warhammer Skirmishes: Incidental PvP combat ,Battlefields: Objective-based battles in the game world, Scenarios: Instanced, point-based battles balanced with NPC Dogs of War,Campaigns: The invasion of enemy lands culminating in the assault on their capital city. WOW Instanced and it's PVP sucks hmmmm.
I'm done but I could go on and on about why its not because there is still alot more info on why it's not. But if you going to stay a game is a clone of something provide details on why you feel that way. Don't be just another fanboy on your game nutz. 
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I class anything with WoW in it's title in this forum to be a troll post. Maby not if I somehow realize the poster has a point. But anyway that point has already been made a 1000 times before
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WoW even looks better
I do agree with your statements OP: WAR is not a WoW clone. In fact nothing is a WoW clone or an EQ clone or any sort of clone... a clone is an exact replica of the original. Anyone who thinks any MMORPG is EXACTLY the same as any other MMORPG needs to get their head examined... honestly...
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You deserver this, I'm sorry :
My biggest question is.... WHO CARES???
To WOW fanboys.... who cares if WAR looks like your game and feels like your game to you? Guess what? That's good, it means you have another game to play that you will more than likely enjoy. And it is a compliment to the great achievements in the genre that WOW made. I'll be honest, I had heard of these weird MMO thingys, but never made a move for one until WOW and now I'm hooked. So good for WOW that others are following in its footsteps.
To WAR fanboys... who cares if people think WAR looks and feels like WOW? Guess what? That's a good thing, it means that more people will take a look at your game that wouldn't have otherwise. I.e. my wife, who knows nothing about games but I'm desperately trying to get invovled. She loved WOW, but as with all good books/movies/games/hobbies, there is an end to the enjoyment (with her the need to raid) so its time for something else. She has been begging for a WOW 2, and guess what, she now has it!! However, you true fanboys shouting "waaagh" (whatever that is) know there are major differences, which will hopefully, elevate both WAR and the genre as a whole and make it better. YAY for you! Now when all these people seeking WOW2 come on board they will see that you were right and become avid WAR fanboys too. WIN WIN!!
Let's leave MMO's for just a second and look at something else.. RTS. (forgive me if I leave games out of the equation, this is based on my experience) Command and Conquer... first major RTS for most people, was great, got people hooked on the genre. Were Age of Empires, Total Annihalation, Company of Heroes, and yes, Warcraft similar? Yes! Were there major comparisons to be made between the type of games? Yes! Did some games bring fans to the genre and they get into other games? Yes. Were they all the same game? NO! Do the same math with FPS, Doom -> Quake -> Halflife -> COD. See, even in other genres, games borrow from each other and create new things as well. That's why its called a GENRE!
So that is my 2 cents in the whole mess. Just remember a few things. First, as for the gameplay, they are both MMORPGs of course they will have similarities. Second, as for the Orcs and Goblins, and fantasy stuff, they BOTH have previous sources that they borrow from. Third, think of how many players you are going to be able to meet that you never would have met if they didn't type in "When does WOW2 come out" into google.
There, I'm done, sorry for the long post, but I just had a pot of coffee and work is boring the daylights out of me.
/insert clever saying
Oh just another 2 cents it will be a cold day in hell before I buy an mmo linked to EA, their arrogance in the gaming world is profound.
And 2nd cent: I will not be touching any game linked to GOA Europe, go play on the English EU Dark Age Servers for a taster. Be careful though they might bite.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
*Starts to count up all the '2 cents' everyone throws in every few days thinking their thread is original when infact there's been a ton of them and all the 2 cents from everyone else* I think I'm almost up to five bucks...hmm *heads off to Lunch*
Honestly this is a dead horse subject and Wicoa no one cares
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
WOW/DAOC clone with a warhammer skin get it right.
I'm glad you don't like or want to play WAR.
Have fun on WoW.
Feel free to use my lovely "Beating a Dead Horse" gif wherever you see fit!
WAR is not a WoW clone to that point you're correct, after that it goes downhill. First off, you state you will go deep; if this is what you call deep then I don't want to know what shallow is. You're argumentation does in most cases involve you stating "the Warhammer universe had it before WoW"; alternatively "WAR is better!"
What does the dictionary say about the word clone:
WAR is not a duplicate, neither a imitation nor does it closely resemble WoW. The most important thing in a game is what the game focuses on. WAR focuses heavily on just PvP and allow you to play 100% PvP from the start to the end of the game. WoW on the other hand has most of it's focus on PvE and forces you to play mainly PvE. I could go further with finding the differences but I don't find that necessary as two games with totally different focus can't go into the category "closely resemble one another".
However, back to your post:
1. You're first point is that WAR'r and WoW's graphics doesn't look like each other. On this point you're pretty much correct. The graphics do however closely resemble each other in the way they are designed. Both have a cartoonish and somewhat pixelated feeling about them. On this point they could be said to resemble each other.
2. I don't see your point. Even if the Warhammer universe had the races before that doesn't make any difference regarding if WAR is a clone of WoW or not. Elves, dwarfs, humans and orcs have all been around for a long time. At this point all games with these races could be called clones.
3. Eeeeh...? WoW has had "worldwide" quest including players trying to achieve a common goal, such as the opening of An'Qiraj. While these aren't exactly part of the common elements in WoW they do exist there from time to time. On this point the games both resemble each other.
4. They resemble each other but WoW wasn't the first to implement this in a game. You could call WoW a clone on this point if you like.
5. Agree. Every game could be called a clone of some earlier at this point.
6. RvR is pretty much just a variation of battle grounds in WoW. Not very close when it comes to game play and so on though. Took me three times to read before I understood what you meant here.
7. All classes in both games are just variation of the same usual archetypes. Once again both game follow the same mainstream setup many fantasy MMORPGs has already done.
8. Why do you point out one thing that pretty much no one mentions when talking about WAR as a clone of WoW... Sure WoW doesn't have that feature, but there's no idea starting to point out all differences, it's better to show the cases that most usually are mentioned and comment on these.
9. Regardless of how good PvP is in WoW this is pretty much the same idea just that WAR developed it further. Remember that before battlegrounds open PvP and raiding cities to kill everyone inside was quite common.
My post is not intended as a argumentation in favor of the idea that WAR is a clone of WoW, but it's intention was rather to show that you're argumentation is far from flawless. How many of you scrolled down here to read the final sentences only?