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Order- Destruction communication?
jaxterirl
Member Posts: 17
Hey everyone,
Once again im troubled with a question i cant find an answer to.
Will The Order and Destruction be able to communicate with each other?
Or will it be WoW style where both speak a different langauge...
the reason i ask is because.. in most of the articles and stories ive read about Warhammer, every race seems to speak english.. Bar the odd race, like the giants.. but they are stupid as hell.
Thanks
-Jax
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I'm positive there won't be cross faction communication (at least in game anyway) because it was the same way in DAoC.
Cross faction communication creates too much opportunity for abuse and harrassment.
Though it may make sense in terms of the IP, it doesn't work in the game.
Ah seems fair, i never played Dark age of Camelot so i didnt know, and the point about abuse and harrasment would seem practical aswell, but it would handy to have some form of communication with the other faction.
If your enemy has access to your chat channels, it would be difficult to discuss plans or strategy without being overheard.
Even if you limited communication to only the local (/say) channel, then enemies in range could overhear your chat.
Nope, sorry. It's better if enemies cannot speak to one another. There still will be spying and passing messages through out-of-game communication channels, and this is bound to happen to some degree.
But, flat-out talking to your enemies. No. Bad idea for many reasons.
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These arguments do not convince me.
erm, more precisely, I don't see where the arugments are.
I honestly don't see why cross-faction communication would be a problem. There are MMOs out there without this restriction.
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Being a long long time DAoC player, cross faction communications would have been absolutely horrid (look at VN Boards as an example of how hot headed people can get). In MMO's where cross faction communications happen, they normally do it where you can only understand a small portion of the other teams conversation (say every 5th word) or something along those lines.
If you have cross faction comms in WAR, what your going to get stuck with is not the mature "good battle sir" or "You almost had me" (not saying these lines would never happen), but let me just demonstrate a quick conversation:
etc. etc. etc.
It would be absolute chaos of banter, swearing, cat calls, crying, etc. You'd end up with a number of people not playing this game for this reason alone, and ultimately would create a rather hostile environment even for the most smack talkin guys on the server.
Granted over time this would diminish as the community aged, but ultimately, it would really create a huge gaggle of words flying by at 1000 lines a second with everything from your mom jokes, to important information, sexual harassment, etc etc.
All this happens in game most of the time anyways just from players of your own side, but we don't need to add in adreniline pumped epeen's to the mess.
Just my $0.02
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cross communication=BAD
They had it in swg and at the pvp areas espicaly theed there was some heavy trash talking. I know i did some it to draw them in to us.
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If I am not mistaken, the Dev Chat brought up this question and the answer was no. Though players will be able to "emote" toward players of the opposing faction.
So, you'll have to go to a fansite like WAR-RvR or Warhammer Conlfict, where they will allow you to flame the hell out of your enemies.
I want to be able to taunt the enemy and tell them how much they suck which is what two enemies do to eachother and i see no problem in that.
trash talking is all good between two enemies though aslong as you're not sending personal threats or abuse to a player.
I want to be able to taunt the enemy and tell them how much they suck which is what two enemies do to eachother and i see no problem in that.
That is why you dance over the corpse of your fallen enemy...
Communication would have allowed many a counter attack to be spotted and prepared for. There are reasons beyond insulting other players that effect in game play.
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I have a feeling that some players underestimate the power of emotes.
I personally have no problem with the DAoC type chat messages.
"Ogzog Stuntiechoppa makes some strange gestures."
I don't like stupid rules in games, and especially in RPGs. This cross-faction communication barrier is one of them.
Seriously, a High Elf will not be able to understand a Dark Elf. How stupid is that...
Are there any aspects of WAR left that have not be "carebear-ed" yet ?
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I hope there wont be Cross-Faction communication and I got three reasons for that.
1) When I get my imbah items and start doing outdoor PvP and killing enemy players, It wont be fun to hear them shout ''You retard I was doing a quest'' blah blah blah while dying. (Even though it would be fun to understand their pleas for mercy
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2) Lore reasons. If you have played the game you know this. Empire Human says : Blah blah blah When an Chaos Servant says : Krrrzkt Karhg Krhgeehatg. I think this is the biggest reason they shouldnt add Cross-Faction understanding (Even though Dark Elf who says Habl Habo Habl understands Chaos's Krrrzkt Karhg Krhgeehatg but it's just good as they are allies)
3)Diplomatic opportunies. You are just goig to Siege a keep with your guild when the defenders of the keep yell: Dont eat us, Eat my brother, he is going to cross the bridge after me. When you replace the brother with a word ''Keep that is easier to siege and has far less defenders'' you know that the sieging players will most surely split up to those smart ppl who wanna siege the ''stronger keep'' anyway and the dumber who took the bait and want to get the eeZ keep. It splits up the Sieging Party and causes 0 keeps to be Sieged.
I have spoken.
I never understood why people like you existed. Do you need to insult the enemy so much? Are you satisfied after typing things like "LOLZROFLPWNED noobb!" or "OMGZ You keeld me while i quest FµµµC U"?
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I never understood why people like you existed. Do you need to insult the enemy so much? Are you satisfied after typing things like "LOLZROFLPWNED noobb!" or "OMGZ You keeld me while i quest FµµµC U"?
Not everyone is immature. Just because you can do it doesn't mean everyone will. Though, there are a lot of immature people that will be playing. I actually wouldn't mind at all if they allowed us to converse with the enemy. Then you have chat logs, if someone is abusing that priviledge, then you report them to a GM and they get warned, suspended, or banned.There is a difference between.. "Hey losers, come get your butt whipped" and "You Fing piece of Sh##, I'm going to rape your (whoever)" One could be labeled as competitive banter and the other one could get you banned. It's all about whether or not Mythic wants to enforce some rules.
Also, who is going to be running around in a large siege group yelling out what keep they are going to and how long it will take them to get there? No one. In battle, is someone going to yell out to the remaining enemies that are alive where they are going next? No. The only way you'll know anything as an enemy is if you have people in the other faction to pass you information out of game or if you actually see a group of them on their way to a location. I know don't about you guys, but I'm certainly not interested in letting the enemy know where I am. /yell "Hey guys!!! I hope the enemy doesn't get to X keep before we do!! We have 50 people in our group and we will get there in 13 minutes!!! I hope no one in their faction can hear this!!!
Come on people, use some common sense. You do something like that and you'll get kicked out of the group.
It would just add some flavor. Who has seen Monty Python? In the quest for the holy grail, they come up on a keep with french soldiers. I'm not going to re-enact it, but the people who've seen it know what I'm talking about. I guess, maybe in RP servers it would work a lot better. Not nearly as many tards running around.
Ok, I'm done.
Well I remember reading somewhere a while back that Mythic initially decided against cross-faction communication in DAoC in order to dehumanize your enemy. So that they could feel as much like NPCs as possible. I'm assuming they're doing it in WAR for the same reason, and probably others.
Personally i wouldnt care if the enemy could insult me by writing " omg u nab u sux" stuff like that" as long as there would be a "ignore enemy player" system, so it was possible to switch it on and off as i pleased.
I totally agree with DAS1337 and xzeve.
You probably will be able to report abusive/racist/whatever language of your faction members. So why not being able to do the same thing for the opposite faction?
I've actually seen many times a better relationship between enemies than within the team itself.
An example : many times, in Guild Wars, have I seen people whisping me "you did a good job, your <insert skill here> was very annoying." or something. And, in the same match, some newbie teammate was calling me a "noob!!!!11" for not resurrecting him (not realizing I already used my resurrection signet (1 use per match)).
And, vice versa, when I saw a good player on the opposite team, I used to whisper him to congratulate him.
Of course, that's not very "roleplay" to be able to do that in the context of a War ("U did a fantastik job, stunty"). But those arguments about this limitation being implemented to prevent your enemy from insulting you, I don't accept.
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I want to be able to taunt the enemy and tell them how much they suck which is what two enemies do to eachother and i see no problem in that.
You just proved their point. Good work.
not really, because if he uses abusive language he could always be reported
If he's doing it in a civilized way by giving arguments, then it's their problem if they don't want to hear the truth ^^
Anyways, that's apparently not gonna happen. So we should stop dreaming and prepare our /dance /lol macro.
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Kraiden says something in a language you cant understand
Kraiden makes strange emotions
Gonna be the most boring game ever kek.
If they're gonna block talking they should block emotes too. It's just as much harrassment having an opponent laugh, fart, spit and whatever else at you or doing the same to them.
No dances? Eh perhaps a War dance or taunting of some sort.
Unfortunately, dancing like John Travolta in Altdorf would not help the Empire war effort very much, so I wouldn't expect to see anything like that in a game centered around WAR and conflict.