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WOW hits new low in patch 2.4 testing
Alan0n
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2.4 is now on testservers. Actually its not a test. Its a pile of things that havn't been worked on at all. Already a total of 4 players from my guild have now left the game cause of huge unbalancing issues that are coming up, both in terms of abilites and items. Class balanced is beeing tossed around from one day to another - making changes to piss ppl off - just the next day to change something else that makes ppl even more pissed.
This is not what any game developer should do. There is now 3 years since WOW came out and you would have thought if they had learned SOMETHING is that you dont PLAY around with class balance. That is a capital offence in a MMO game.
Im discussed to see the total lack of respect that Blizzard has shown to their players. It doesn't matter if you get 1 person offended or 10 million. You always fail if you dont carry full respect to every single one. Yet alone whole class or whole spec.
To me this is a new low in history of MMOs. The biggest Game developer of mmos desides to play around with class balance from day to day. No thx
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Try listing some specific examples on what they've done that's ruining the game.
Edit: Mxmissle that analogy sucked. I mean, it was really bad.
OP is right.
MMO's have been boffin this kind of thing for years, for instance I remember when AC started tweaking things, first it was great to be a mage, and then it was great to be a dagger type, and then it was great to be 10,000 different kinds of things, and the real base from the community no longer exists... If this is your first time experiencing something like this, my heart goes out to you, after AC I lost that loving feel, WoW was the only thing in my opinion that came remotely close. I think the developers get to the point where they say "hey lets break something thats not all that broken yet." Or they just don't care. :::cling:::cling:::: just my two cents
Any chance of getting this translated into English?
Oh, and its "disgust" actually, not "discussed", instead of giving the impression that you were not happy with that statement, you instead made it out to seem as if you wanted to sit and talk over all the bad with Blizzard.
I suggest staying in school, and playing less video games, strictly my personal opinion of course.
Specifics would make this easier to discuss than "omg this sucks".
How are they tampering with balance?
Are there opposing points of view or is this just your class you feel is not coming out as well an onother?
Don't forget, the test servers are there to try things out before if goes live, and to fix it if its broke. Just because something makes an appearance on test does not mean it will ever see live. As you said, things are still changing, They are still "testing" ideas.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
Care to elaborate, or are you just another "one-note pony" amongst the herd?
Sounds like "oh noes my fotm class got nurfed! teh game suxx !" kind of post. Maybe add more details ?
thats why its on test realm first.
they TEST it first implement it later so its not anything set yet.
Sounds like the OP is just whining.
Anyone who plays on the test server should know it's just that, a server for testing. That's where they put stuff to iron out all the problems, duh. If you really cared you'd go give feedback to blizzard and tell them the problems so they can fix them. Instead of coming here to whine.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Perhaps he had his facts wrong and may not know what he's talking about, hell in fact he may be whining, but don't get all fanboy on him, only thing worse that those without constructive critisism is a fan boy that lacks as much detail as OP and says "not uh"
2.4 is going to be on the ptr for ages some will be buffed some will be nerfed a number of times and not a single 1 of the 10 mil plus players has any idea what the final live version will be yet.
why not suck it up and actually test stuff and help blizz provide a better game u lot quitting wow wont make the slightest differance to blizzard or any wow players
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There are things you can play with on test servers and there are things you dont play with. Class balance is something you DONT play with. Why ? Because you will ALWAYS make players unhappy. There were 2 or 3 things that I think all agreed on what was needed. One was buffing shamans in PVP. Second was nerfing druids for 2v2. Third was to buff retri paladins. OK fine.
Day one of test.
Paladins get total new stats - Blizzard just forgot that there are bloodelfs and alliance. Whole FACTION was unbalanced.
Druids got no nerf day one.
Shamans got 30% increased resist on interupt. That will keep them alive how long ?
Then for example we start to see screenshots like this
http://www.eyehorn.com/wppublic/screenshots/notquite9000.JPG - If you dont know what this is this is innervate on a priest who needs 5 sec to fill his mana. This is result of straigh spirti/inte mp5 swap without thinking. Obvious no internal test.
Items - I have not ran full comparison but what I've seen so far is that the straight regen from priests and Druids has made mp5 sats not needed. Blizzars solved this compared to shamans and priest by Removing most mp5 from priests and duids with the old formula of 0.4 mana per stats - meaning that there are 2.5 stats now free. If we look at it - It now show a priest loosing almost every single mp5 and getting double stat instead. 1 stat = 2.5 +healing 1stat /1 haste rate. 1 stat = 1/mana/spirit/stamina/haste.
THe t6.5 armor for priests has for exmapl :
31 intcreaes in Intellect
25 incease in Spirit
Removal of pretty much all mp5
Increase of basic hast to 192.
increased healing of 73
Total buff of over 43 % compared to other classes.
Basicly - One gear for all. If you add number of over 450 mp5 cause of free given Mana/int mp5 with any pentaly to others tats it show very naive thinking.
So as a priest Im very happy but seriously - if about 100 mana per 5 is just given to me on day one of testserver and then the ITEMS are balanced with just adding additional stats when I can loose the mp5. Are they seriously keeping it this way? If so the 3 priests can single handedly heal 25 man raid. We now have about double ability of paladins as MT healer. They are about same as druids on hots and we are doing almost doubel as shamans in grouphealing.
These are just few examples. Im not even gonna discuss classes like mages.
Update on test server few days l8ter.
Ok - ret paladins were not happy so they whined about no retri for their aena. Pathc give them that. Dumdidum = more whining gives you more. LETS GO ON.
Druid set armor changes - first hing of nerf for PVP resto druids. And that had to wait to second update. Seriously ?
OH and then they had to buff holy paladins cause their items they already put called 6.5 were DOWNGRADE to their gear. For example the leggs had 20 lower +healing than t6. And they had lower + healign than badge reward pants.
You asked for exmaple. If a company that cares even alittle tiny bitt about anythign the they do such tests on Internal servers and then put it alive to players WHEN it has some balance. Test server doesn't mean you can play around every day on basic balance that has been going on for years. Any proper and thinking Developer would ALREADY have relseas key features out. THAT is the purpose of testserver. To test the basic ALL around changes that the developer have made. Instead they trow out almost nothing and expect to players be fine with day to day changes.
That is a discrace.
Well- since I have already killed Illidan I probably will. Testing AOC atm and its just soooo good. I still expect bugs and some imbalance but them... thats a game that did not come out 3 years ago. That 3 year has now turned everything on his head and called it progressive thesting.
If you can't stand what goes on test servers, don't test. But it's completely ridiculous to complain that Blizzard messes up the class balance by doing nothing to it when they don't release a patch.
Listen up, If Blizzard NEVER balanced any classes from day 1, do you know what you would have?
Warriors, Warlocks, and Druids would be the weakest classes in the game and almost nobody would play them. Warlocks, especially would be buttraped by anything Undead.
Shadow Priests, Shamans, and Rogues would rule the entire game. Holy/Disc priests would not exist.
Hunters would be slaughtered by anyone who can heal or fear, and their pets would be generic.
People who use weapons would not worry about DPS on weapons, instead Top End Damage and Weapon Speed (the Slower the better). Remember when Blue Arcanite Reapers were better than anything Purple?
I could go on, but I think you get my point. You and your friends can go ahead and leave the game. You probably play on a carebear server anyways.
end of story. Let's read something else...
OMFG!
4 player; that makes it 9.999.996 players still in the game.
This is really the patch that will kill WoW!
Disclaimer; not spamming just beeing ironic;)
It's quite sometime since i have played Wow so i maybe wrong with this but looking at the image i can see that the bottom one seems to have more buffs on especially innorvate which i do know increase mana regen, also looking some of the items seem to be dulled out as if an ability is on a cool down, this may explain the big difference, it looks like they are just testing different things which basically is the main reason of a test server.
Sorry if this isn't what the OP was ranting on about in the first place
OP stop throwing your toys from the pram and grow up, its on a test realm... ill say it again TEST REALM, nothing is final and not everything in 2.4 is avalible yet.
its kids like you that give wow a bad name round here.
/qoute from blizzard http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2843564807&sid=1
With the release of patch 2.4.0 for testing, many players have questioned whether or not this is the extent of changes for this patch. Please be aware that we have changed how we are developing and testing this patch by adding to it progressively. What this means for players is that more additions, changes and even the possibility of removals can occur as the patch is tested. The current patch notes will be changing over time and are not finalized in their current incarnation. We have more planned for this patch and would ask everyone to please feel free to test the new changes as we go and provide feedback.
LMAO!! Sorry but this is just too damn funny.
Then to top it off the OP wants to throw in the fact that he is testing AOC and it is so much better.
Apparently just wanting to start a drama fest, sorry OP but most here have said it right, if something like this is a reason to quit then yeah maybe its time.
Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
-Heraclitus 500BC
Class based MMOs will always have class balance issues. Especially where Blizzard is concerned.
1. There isn't a single class based MMO that has balanced classes. One or two classes always have an ability that makes them superior to others.
2. Blizzard actually does this to keep the dumb puppets that like WoW interested. 'Oh may FotM Warlock sucks now, I'll just level up a warrior.' after a while everybody should have 8 level 70s with decent gear so when thier FotM gets nerfed they can just pick up the next one in line and respec it. Cause really the only thing WoW has ever had going for it is the fact that one class is always superior to all others. None of these Fan Bois are going to convince me that playing a class that constantly gets Effed In the A is fun to play.
it is a test server whitch meens it is beeing testet and if it is not good it wont come into the game
What Happend to Sex, Drugs And Rock'n'Roll?
Now we only have Aids, Crak and Techno
*reads a paper* No, wow is the best game ever, Blizzard is godlike. There are no bugs in wow, the game is perfectly balanced. Blizzard loves every single player.... HELP ME, they're punishing me *thud* ouch....