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WoW, new chinese Ebay farmer field!

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Every one i thing know the Sad tragedy that happend to Lineage 2 with the ebay farmer? well from some discusion with Ebay farmer, most of them have tell that they will come to WoW when it will come out! so guys lets wich Blizzard will be more Inteligent then NCsoft image


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  • NuxtorNuxtor Member UncommonPosts: 41

    I hope that Blizzare can put an end to this, Lineage II is falling apart after the C1 update so i guess the L2 adena marked will fall with it. Which might lead to a lot of WoW E-bay issues.

    Selling ingame items and money on E-bay is very har to track down and destroy so i guess Blizzard has to take some serious security messures before they can be safe from the E-bay framers.

     

     

  • ramadinramadin Member Posts: 1,304

    Every game has Ebay farmers.

     

     

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  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154

    You do know that the farmers will have a very slim market, right? Any item worth any money at all is going to be soulbound. So all the farmers will be able to do is sell basic items and bind on equip items. But only if they don't equip them first.

    So, I am guessing that will slow them down but not stop it completely. I find it embarassing if someone buys something for a game with real money. It is both highly pathetic to sell it or buy it. Oh well, let the losers waste their real cash on this videogame.

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  • VakktnVakktn Member Posts: 746
    This game probabaly wont make the adena farmers much profit like L2 did cuz in L2 everything was hella expensive and catered alot to adena farmers. Most of the good items in the game are soulbound so you dont really need to buy the uber expensive items. This game makes it easy to get gold in a matter of hours so you wont NEED to buy gold off ebay. Only thing that would probabaly sell is selling a Hero class char on ebay heheh.

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  • AnnekynnAnnekynn Member Posts: 1,437

    "This game probabaly wont make the adena farmers much profit like L2 did cuz in L2 everything was hella expensive and catered alot to adena farmers"

    Thats exactly it. In L2 everyone has to farm if they want to get good weapons/armor. You simply make much more money killing very weak enemies. As such a big market is created to allow everyone who doesnt want to farm for cash to just buy it on ebay. IF money scaled with monster difficulty (aka 3x harder monster = 3x more cash), then people would have a lot more money and adena farming would be far less of a business.

    Ofcourse WoW will have its share of ebaying, but I doubt it will come anywhere close to the level of L2.

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  • Groeneveld00Groeneveld00 Member Posts: 5
    Furthermore I believe alot of the "good" items can be obtained by questing while you level up, so it shouldn't be such a problem as in Lineage II

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    Well, i thing if they go in wow, they will lvl and Farm/KS all the monster in a place where the monster drop a really rare item! so that way People will need to go buy it to Ebay if they want it!

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  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154

    What we are saying is that they couldn't do that if they wanted to. I am pretty sure some of the best gear will probably be Soulbound, so even if someone KSes, they couldn't sell it back to the person.

    Also, Blizzard uses a system called 'Tapping.' This means the first person to hit the monster 'Taps' it and has all rights to the loot and gets the larger bulk of the Exp. Thus making Ksing pointless. Not impossible, but pointless.

    So the Adena farmers will be wasting time if they try to sell a soulbound item on Ebay or the people buying it will be screwed out of a lot of cash. Oh well, their money, their decision.

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    What we are saying is that they couldn't do that if they wanted to. I am pretty sure some of the best gear will probably be Soulbound, so even if someone KSes, they couldn't sell it back to the person.

    Yes, most if not all of the very best Equipment in the game "binds on pickup" aka soulbound, but... and a big BUTT... It is actually very easy to circumvent. There's actually a magical box in the game which is ONLY there to circumvent this system. Basically it's a box that allows you to pick up "bind on pickup" items without them binding and then trade/sell them to someone else.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338
    your all right, but because I can't personally see how they can farm efficiently to acatully do any harm after reading the 2 patch release. After all the acatul thing they can only collect or farm as it were is gold. all items are limited to node selection and actaully going to get it. stuff can't be duplicated as of yet so I don't really see the problem. To farm, you would have to have a spawn point, as i understand it, there ar'nt many. INSTANCE DUNGON'S and. The rest funtion also give's it a little boost for casaul players and hardcore timeing players. Plus, getting stuff is not the problem, enchanting and embuing stuff with special abilities seem to be the big thing. Plus getting things like gold by farming is not really possible. The mineing node's only have a certian amount of gold before it runs out, just like the node's for herbalizim. So there are limitations to prevent farming. But as to it us, there is not really was to actaully explote the system to farm effectivly.

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  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154



    Originally posted by Kunou

    Yes, most if not all of the very best Equipment in the game "binds on pickup" aka soulbound, but... and a big BUTT... It is actually very easy to circumvent. There's actually a magical box in the game which is ONLY there to circumvent this system. Basically it's a box that allows you to pick up "bind on pickup" items without them binding and then trade/sell them to someone else.

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    Now correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that box just totally eliminate the purpose of having a bind on pickup item? Kind of weird that that would be added to a game of this size. I can see it now:

    WOW BOX FOR SALE: BIND ON PICKUP WEAPON INSIDE STARTING FOR $300 AMERICAN!!!

    Oh well, I am sure someone knows why they added it. Now it is just a matter of them trying to explain it to the rest of us.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338
    could you tell me how you have your banner below you sig. mine jus puts up a link. ty in advance.

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  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    I got to get out of this topic cuz im lost

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  • VakktnVakktn Member Posts: 746


    Originally posted by Kunou




    What we are saying is that they couldn't do that if they wanted to. I am pretty sure some of the best gear will probably be Soulbound, so even if someone KSes, they couldn't sell it back to the person.

    Yes, most if not all of the very best Equipment in the game "binds on pickup" aka soulbound, but... and a big BUTT... It is actually very easy to circumvent. There's actually a magical box in the game which is ONLY there to circumvent this system. Basically it's a box that allows you to pick up "bind on pickup" items without them binding and then trade/sell them to someone else.

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    They have that in game (first ive heard of it)??? You mean you can "Pick up" bind on pickup items and put them in magical boxes so they dont bind to you then go sell them on the auction house? If so thats pretty stupid and defeats the purpose of having bind on aquire items....

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    The conversation was aboutthe adena farming happening in Linage 2. The problem was that groups of people. specifically Chinese players was they set up ganges, (Clans) They killed anyone that went near a certian area, these members are harcore players that have people at these are's or someone playing every hour of the day. The left the character at a spawn place and grind low level creatured while coollecting adene(type of ore, mainly currency related) This was then sold on ebay which caues many fluxations in the game that did not allow newbie's to progress further in the game. The other factor was the duping where copies of the same item were being made when tranfering from player to play times when the server was under alot of stress.

    Blizzard fix the main problem by placing limit's, nodes provide limites rewards and will not simply renew, unless the player moves to another node. Instance area's and quests are plentifule and the gruinding is kept to a minimal because spawn points are minimised. There is also no duping happening. in world of warcraft. Grinding will not really help as it will not be able to be used effectivly. So farms will not accure. People will sell items on ebay for any game, weather people sell them in mass. in perticulare actaule large qantities.

    My last post was about the fact my banner was not showing and I asked for help for it. Sorry.


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  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718


    Originally posted by GaurdianKing

    The conversation was aboutthe adena farming happening in Linage 2. The problem was that groups of people. specifically Chinese players was they set up ganges, (Clans) They killed anyone that went near a certian area, these members are harcore players that have people at these are's or someone playing every hour of the day. The left the character at a spawn place and grind low level creatured while coollecting adene(type of ore, mainly currency related) This was then sold on ebay which caues many fluxations in the game that did not allow newbie's to progress further in the game. The other factor was the duping where copies of the same item were being made when tranfering from player to play times when the server was under alot of stress.
    Blizzard fix the main problem by placing limit's, nodes provide limites rewards and will not simply renew, unless the player moves to another node. Instance area's and quests are plentifule and the gruinding is kept to a minimal because spawn points are minimised. There is also no duping happening. in world of warcraft. Grinding will not really help as it will not be able to be used effectivly. So farms will not accure. People will sell items on ebay for any game, weather people sell them in mass. in perticulare actaule large qantities.
    My last post was about the fact my banner was not showing and I asked for help for it. Sorry.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338
    np. As for this magic boz thing, it kind of sounds fishy to me. I have not seen this magic box mentiones and I am asumeing it would be one of the biggest issues in the game. The point is that the problem the price was high for things in L2, they resorted to drastic measured to gain these things. The point is that this is not the case with world of warcraft. Also it is not very practical to actaully grind in the game as you know the rest funtions and the spawn types means that you will get no experience and no reward when you kill mobds of different level to you of large amounts. You would have to kill creatures eqaul or strong to your level to gain anything (reward(drops) or level experience) You should know this, this was talked about in the last discusion about grinding. They are trying to prevent it and make it pointless. But getting your hands on the best weapons is always an issue and it has been made sure to every possible action they take to prevent mass grinding or farming.

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    Actually adena IS the currency in Lineage 2, not an ore. The farmers were camping areas and killing everything in sight to collect as much ingame currency as possible and selling it on ebay. No one is talking about farming ore here. The ingame currency farming is just as easy in WoW as it is in L2, just pick an area, kill everything there, keep killing it as it spawns. And yes, the nodes of ores and herbalism nodes and such are limited and randomly located in WoW, they're not THAT hard to find. If you find a cave, you're going to find some ore deposits/nodes, and chances are, if you camp said cave, those nodes/deposits will respawn. Also, you have to keep in mind, the fact that the nodes/deposits are limited and randomly placed, is going to hurt the crafter as much or more than the hardcore farmer, thus making the crafting more likely to be willing to spend a lil cash on ebay to get the resources he needs to get his crafting skill up some more. Farming and ebaying are going to exist on any game out or thats gonna come out.

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    Well chinese dont play L2 because they are hardcore player and they dont play for theyr own, they play like a work for a Cyber cafee who collect all the adena they collect and Sell it on ebay!

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    As for this magic boz thing, it kind of sounds fishy to me. I have not seen this magic box mentiones and I am asumeing it would be one of the biggest issues in the game.

    Yeah well, I hadn't heard about it either until I saw one IN THE GAME. I'm in the beta, I was hanging out in town listening to what people were selling, looking for a new axe or something and someone started auctioning off what everyone knew to be a soulbound item. Naturally a lot of us jumped in quickly and yelled at him for trying to scam people and he linked the box over the chat channel, I pulled up the stats/description for it, and sure enough, thats exactly what it does.

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  • OdenathusOdenathus Member UncommonPosts: 605

    Also, as mentioned, instanced areas.  Mobs do not respawn if an area is farmed (means the longer you hunt one area the longer it takes for the mobs to respawn).

    Items worth buying; Most gear worth having is 'bind on equip' or 'bind on loot'.  Bind on loot items cannot be sold.  Bind on equip items can be sold.  However drops are random off any mob of the appropriate lvl range.  This makes it rather hard to pharm a specific mob for a specific item.  Items that are sellable that are pharmable, tend to be drops from instanced zones (such as Gnomeregon).  As instanced zones, they are rather hard to pharm, but pharmers wouldn't really inconvience other players... instanced dungeons, afterall.

    That leaves selling gold.  I can see some market for this.  Mounts for example cost 100gp.  However, you also need the skill to use the mount (100sp) and lvl 40+.  This kinda limits your market for that particular item and as mentioned, coin is not to hard to earn.  So, your market for gold buyers is limited, there but very limited.

    I'm sure it will happen, it's almost impossible to avoid.  But I can't see it being a rampant problem, such as L2 suffers. (imo) image

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338

    Well, Like I was explianing, Instance zones can't be farmed as they will not allow you to stay in one area for and just kill a creature thats spawns in the same position over and over again. The only thing that could be farmed is rewards at node points and like I said you can't really farm them as they have a limited amount in them until you will have to move.

    So in conclusion, I am repeating what I said before. Farming is not really a viable option to use in the game. There is'nt anything that can actaully be killed easily, get a reward off that you simply can trade in for money easily and in mass.

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  • OdenathusOdenathus Member UncommonPosts: 605

    It appears that there are no magic boxes in WoW that you can place 'bind on loot' items and trade them.  I didn't think so.  I posted this question on the Beta forums (as I've never seen or heard of such a box) and have several responces, including the most likely scenario;

    someone looted a locked box

    When this box is unlocked, unlocking is not considered looting.  The item inside the box was prolly a 'bind on loot' item.  The box and it's content can be traded.

    This is what I think you saw in auction....

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  • VakktnVakktn Member Posts: 746


    Originally posted by Odenathus

    It appears that there are no magic boxes in WoW that you can place 'bind on loot' items and trade them.  I didn't think so.  I posted this question on the Beta forums (as I've never seen or heard of such a box) and have several responces, including the most likely scenario;
    someone looted a locked box
    When this box is unlocked, unlocking is not considered looting.  The item inside the box was prolly a 'bind on loot' item.  The box and it's content can be traded.
    This is what I think you saw in auction....

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    Thats what I thought it was.... Didnt think you could take bind on aquire items from mobs then put them in a box to trade... didnt make sense =D.

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  • GaurdianKingGaurdianKing Member Posts: 338
    LOL! did not think it was something blizzard would do, something that would contradict an in built feature to prevent nasty reacurances of unwanted systems. But I digress, what about the whole lockpicking thing, that seem like it could be made into a mini game luike that in thief3. LOL!

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