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If I were to vote...
bluberryhaze
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based on the race of a candidate, would that make me a bigot, racist, or none of the above?
Bigot- One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Racist- a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
None of the above- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_above
and if i were to even ask this question would that make me a bigot, racist or none of the above?
ahem, disregard that last part.
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Neither.
You'd just be shallow and perceived as naive or ignorant.
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Tough question to answer. On one hand voting for somebody like Obama just because he is black doesn't seem wrong, but that's probably because of preconceived notions of affirmative action within our society. If you were to flip the situation and have an example of somebody who votes for McCain just because he is white seems very wrong.
I don't really have an answer for you. . .
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Keebs
The MMO gaming blog I write for.
What if I'm white, but vote for Obama because he's black...
It doesn't really have to do with race at all, simply physical appearance over personal traits.
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its interesting watching 9 out of 10 black democrats vote for Obama and apparently 1/2 the white democrat voters too. i can dig deeper into that but i dont think some people can handle the truth.
I wonder how the republican racist machine will tackle Obamas charisma. im assuming some of the 'messages' that are put out from republicans, mccains camp, will be twisted into anti-black racist comments by media and pundits. mccain will have to analyze every single word and phrase he plans on saying so no hidden messages can be construed and used against him. america has never seen a black presidential nominee. im going to be sad when politicians and advisors draw their lines, as they always are, but this time due to race. its going to get ugly. in this politically correct free for all society, the media will arm the whites and the blacks in america with democrat politicians accusations of race hating. and most will buy into it. and america will suffer.
advantage: Obama
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I dont think it would be any of them sir it would new age american Politacally correct crap.
Lets face it if Al sharpton was white he wouldn't even be heard in his own living room.
But in todays age race matters when applying for college, getting a job, and politics. All things that should be on merit alone.
We have major sins in our past but that doesn't mean we should handicap our future.
Its the same concept as since women couldn't vote for god knows how long we should just could there vote as double for X amount of years.
I get it we have made mistakes as a country, but continueing to unbalance scales is no solution no matter what the intent.
I will vote for anyone i support based on merit and if they are the canadate with the beliefs i support even if they were a black,mexican, asian,native american mix, paraplegic whos parents were gay.
It wouldn't matter because they would be the right canadate.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
You talk about bigots and racists like they are two separate entity's when really they both fit into the same category. Human races ! lol what is that? do you mean cultures because there is only one line of humans on the planet and we are it..black yellow white, we are all human.
God said to Noah "you are perfect in your generations " Genesis 6:9 meaning he did not want noah to mix his seed. He did not mention the word race because it was a word introduced in the 16-17 century by euro centric racist.
You are probably claiming the walls wondering what`s become of your beloved american lol.
The only thing that ever got me about Obama was the (false) rumor that he was either a Muslim or attended a radical Muslim school. I remember thinking at that time that it would be a bad message to send if a radical Muslim were elected President. Radical Islam would see it as a sign and a propaganda victory in Iraq and Afghanistan. In reality, I felt it was a matter of practicality that led me to that conclusion, call me racist if you like. Fortunately, I would like to reiterate for those who think I still believe this, the rumor is / was false.
To the question / statement. I am without a doubt a bigot. I am partial to my beliefs and less tolerant of someone who does not share them. Most of you here are also bigots but are too (insert condescending name) to admit it. I am not a racist though, I do believe that we are all created equal and it is our own experience and upbringing that will determine our path in life. I do believe that society hampers the development of many based on racist principles and practices.
Personally, I wish we had NOTA for general elections in the US and not just as a statement. Make it actually carry weight over into the electoral and if NOTA won the electoral, a new election would need to take place. Oh, how much fun would that be? Just think if a major state had all it's electoral votes tied up in NOTA?
Barack is a muslim name, his father actually was a muslim. No one can really confirm one way or another right now where he was and that will hurt him in the campaign due to smear tactics. However we do know he has a shifting view on religion.
He has told us about how his mother taught him parts of all religion so that he could understand others and that he was taught that modern religions were on par with greek myth.
However since running for office he has been claiming to have been a Christian for 20 years.
Sadly if he had come out and said he was aethist or muslim he would have scared away alot of voters so politically he is forced to lie, if he isn't telling the truth about being a Christian it could come back to haunt him. Even if he wasn't in a Wahabbist school.
It would make you a racist according to my definition of "racist", which more or less follows the one you listed except for the last part about superiority and the right to rule others, which is not part of my own definition of the word.
it is interesting that you find my commentary on these forums to be a form of bigotry.
very revealing, Nasica.
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You talk about bigots and racists like they are two separate entity's when really they both fit into the same category. Human races ! lol what is that? do you mean cultures because there is only one line of humans on the planet and we are it..black yellow white, we are all human.
God said to Noah "you are perfect in your generations " Genesis 6:9 meaning he did not want noah to mix his seed. He did not mention the word race because it was a word introduced in the 16-17 century by euro centric racist.
You are probably claiming the walls wondering what`s become of your beloved american lol.
I will be honest.I find Obama very charismatic, nice, liberal.
his wife on the other hand, has a large chip on her shoulder. I dont like her attitude and her race segregation rallying. is it ok to have that opinion? or do you prefer to be a bigot and not allow me to have it?
i dont care if its obama or clinton, they both are liberal and against my philosophy.
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until you lived in america, and an urban city, Like I have, you are not qualified to reprehend my posts.
stop being intolerant towards me.
ahem
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it is interesting that you find my commentary on these forums to be a form of bigotry.
very revealing, Nasica.
Not to jump into this argument, but I've never thought intolerance was absolute. That's part of the reason for my previous comment about my "bigotry." As far as I can tell, unwillingness to accept an opposing view, even if you listen to it, is still intolerance. If you are always against liberal ideas, you have an unwillingness to accept their view, and are therefore intolerant. By your original definition, that would make you bigoted toward liberals.
Barack is a muslim name, his father actually was a muslim. No one can really confirm one way or another right now where he was and that will hurt him in the campaign due to smear tactics. However we do know he has a shifting view on religion.
He has told us about how his mother taught him parts of all religion so that he could understand others and that he was taught that modern religions were on par with greek myth.
However since running for office he has been claiming to have been a Christian for 20 years.
Sadly if he had come out and said he was aethist or muslim he would have scared away alot of voters so politically he is forced to lie, if he isn't telling the truth about being a Christian it could come back to haunt him. Even if he wasn't in a Wahabbist school.
Yeah, I still take minor issue to some of this. I'm not big on smear tactics, but I do have problem with his lying about being a Christian, if that is true. At the moment, I have to take him at his word on the matter. My disagreement with him stems from policy regarding Iraq, firearms, the economy, etc. His stances on every subject are a bit too optimistic without explaining how he is going to pay for what he wants to do.
Because i am not the same race as you, you are going to be intolerant of anything that i say ?
hmmmm..... Very revealing wouldnt you say?
oi vey.no, you are not my countryman. i dont even know your race. stop digging and trying to paint me.
i am not intolerant of differing opinions, which get labeled as democrat or republican, usually. i have republican minded opinions. i think liberalism is wrong. i will discuss and dissect issues trying to prove my position is the correct one. its not that i wont listen to the others or shut them out. i am not intolerant. if i get bested in the ideas and solutions department, perhaps ill change my view. until that happens, i am who i am.
ive learned to have very frequent and poignant discussions with my mostly democrat in-laws. its usually 6 vs. 3 to there advantage. i dont get mad, angry or intolerant. i lay out what i have to say and, they say what they have to say. in the end we are still family. i think liberalism is wrong. you come off to me like a liberal or democrat, don't take offense, it is only my opinion.
its dialogue. you know?
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