Black history month lol.. Contrary to 15-16 century racist belief black history covers thousands of years from Noah to the last black/berber/moors empire of the middle ages which ruled the whole of southern Europe.
Here is something to chew on...
If the person you call Jesus walked past you today none of you would recognize him. Contrary to what your local bishop or RE class told you in school or the NT has taught you..there was never any one called Jesus in the bible.
When i say bible i mean the original and true bible the old testament not the European rewrite. His name was Yahusua Ben Yosef which means salvation. He did not have blonde hair ..lol and blue eyes..he looked like other biblical Judah`s/Israelites of that time.meaning black not what we call jews today.
Do not mistake the modern day europen jew converts as the same people of judah in the bible. The word Jew did not come into existence until 1514 A.D. The literal meaning of the word Jew is derived form the tribe of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, twin brother to Esau, sons of Isaac, son of Abraham, who was from Asher. Genesis Chapter 10:6-14 states within that line of descendants, you find Asher in verse 11; these were descendants from the sons of Ham, which means Black and has been verified to be Sudan today, and Sudan means Black in Arabic.
Yahushua comes from this line which lead all the way back to Noah who was black. These are facts in the bible weather people like it or not its there in black and white.
The oldest depiction of Yahusua was found in a roman church in AD 530 -40 ish ..i am not sure of the exact date but its around there. The picture shows him to be of Negroid decent.
Just a quick rundown.. Genesis 5:32 clearly states that Noah was 500 years old when he begat three sons...meaning he was 50 years old when his wife Namah had triplets. When the floods came Noah was 600 years old ..meaning he was 60 and his sons would of been 10 years old.
In Genesis 6:9 it states "And these are the generations of Noah" this means that Noah`s genes had not been racially mixed at that point and that is why God said he was perfect in his generations.
Where is this all going you ask lol..well next time you look at that cross and bow down to a false idol remember they are having you over.
This is where it gets interesting..Noahs three sons were named..Shem, Ham and Japheth. This is not a rant or a black thing..its just interesting to see how many people actually now the true facts as its written in the real bible.
The Sons of Ham/Sudan means black.. Oldest to youngest.. I have put there true Hebrew name beside them as it reads in Genesis. Hams brothers children make up the other 9 which then become the 12 true tribes of israelites.
Cush(ethiopia), Mizzaim (egypt), Phut (cathage/Libya and Canaan," who was cursed and settled outside of Africa in the the so called middle east. This family is traced through the bible in a straight line to David , who violates the law and marries a Canaanite , which was strictly forbidden by God, who in Genesis 24: 3-4 issued a command not to marry outside of one`s own people so not to damage the perfect genealogy of the holy seed.
Great isn't it... David married outside his tribe which you can hear in the.. Song of Solomon verse 4... which changes to Negro to Mulatto , as a result of marring a Canaanite/Arab type person.
Yahushua was called the Lamb of God in the bible with woolly, Nappy ,kinky hair just like lambs wool and black people you see today. His feet are described as burnt brass.
The name Jesus..
The name Jesus comes from the Greek/Latin corruption of the Messiah's original Hebrew name. Originally, the name of the Messiah was , pronounced Yahushua. This is the Messiah's original name. When the Gentiles tried to transliterate His name into Greek, they came up with ihsoun or "Iesous"When Iesous was transliterated into Latin, it became "Iesus", which was then carried over into English it became our modern day "Jesus" when the letter "J" developed.
Sad but true ..once European 15-16 century racist historians and scientist got hold of the bible and rewrote it in key area they used it to convince the common folk that blacks had no place in history and slavery was there given right. They convinced people that Noah had three sons lol..one black ,one white and the other Asian lol all of the same black mother and farther.
This is how they convinced the common folk for 400 years that slavery was right while they lined there fat pockets. Its sort of the same thing today with Islam( i am not a muslin lol) and how bush links it with terror so he can invade OIL rich countries to control the world resources to keep country's like China/Indian/Russia at bay, then its was the sale of millions of blacks from Africa and large parts of Europe.
He cant round them all up on slave ships like they were still doing only 120 years ago so he feeds the world constant bs about people who just happen to be sitting on endless oil reserves. America and Europe have been at Iraq and Iran's oil supply for the last 100 years or so. They have made deals and funded wars ..ie suddam/kurdish war but as soon as these nations don't play ball all hell breaks loose.
Anyway i hope you enjoyed the history lesson..
Did you know the original Kermit/egyptians were black which ended with the passing of the 25th dynasty meaning king tut.
Did you know there have been four Black Roman Emperors.. ill leave that for another day..
Did you know that eye witnesses describe beethoven as being Moorish mulatto ..ie half black and half belgium.
These things are never mentioned and most black people have not bothered to look at where they come from. This is still part of the slave mentality that has been so ingrained its disappeared. They only have to look at ancient Kermit to see the names of there black kings and queens like Ramses and Nefertiti.
The Romans great eye witness accounts of the egyptians and the Israelites and nubians. Describing them as being black as night and having hair like lambs wool.
Here you can see some of the names of the last full black egyptian pharaohs before the Arabs invaded egypt of which you can see there descendant still there today in the shape of modern Kermit's.
Kermit is the ancient name of the land we call egypt today.
I just dont approve of any ______(insert nationality) history month.
simple because if we do one for every group of people who were oppressed in america alone we would run out of months.
Because i know we couldn't have a "native american history month) we would have to have one for the major groups of tribes, one for the japanese(whole internment camp thing in WWII), hispanics, etc.
I am entirely in favor of teaching the history involved in black history month and other such nationalities but having to give it a month to give it attention is a tragedy, it should just be part of the curriculum.
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White history is celebrated all the time thought US history and more.
"White History"???? I thought it was American history.
Why the separation still. Blacks were there during the whole growth of our nation. Blacks were not a separate part of our evolution. So why the need for a separate history?
Why can't we just look at our nation and how it has grown into what it is now. A nation that is getting better and better at racial harmony. I don't know of any other nation in the whole world with more ethnicities in it than America. And each one of them are a part of our WHOLE history.
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing?
Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing? Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
hey guy, there are plenty of other valid responses besides the childish one you chose to display in your remark. nothing to do with the month being too long.
White history is celebrated all the time thought US history and more.
"White History"???? I thought it was American history.
Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing? Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
My mentality is that I'm just over all the separation of people. It's tiring now and even to the point of burdensome.
I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
White history is celebrated all the time thought US history and more.
"White History"???? I thought it was American history.
Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
It was when I took American history. I learned all about Sojourner Truth, Martin Luther King Jr, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, etc....
And that was going to school in a little town in Alabama. If it gets bad then it can't get much worse than that!
White history is celebrated all the time thought US history and more.
"White History"???? I thought it was American history.
Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
It was when I took American history. I learned all about Sojourner Truth, Martin Luther King Jr, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, etc....
And that was going to school in a little town in Alabama. If it gets bad then it can't get much worse than that!
Oh yeah man, of course it is now. I mean it started back in 1926 with Negro History Week. Think how things were back then...but there is a lot more where that came from.
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing? Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
hey guy, there are plenty of other valid responses besides the childish one you chose to display in your remark. nothing to do with the month being too long.
I said people act as though "a" month is too long, not "the" month. I assume that you thought I was being sarcastic because Febuary is the shortest month. If it isn't what you thought I meant, then I don't know what you're talking about. In my defense, I did say "a" month.
People have no problem with days, for example, Sain't Patrick's day, Cinco de Mayo, or Chinese New Year etc. I don't see anyone complaining that these days should not be recognized. If it isn't the "month", out of black history month that people have such a problem with, maybe its something else?
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing? Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
My mentality is that I'm just over all the separation of people. It's tiring now and even to the point of burdensome.
I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
Just so that I understand where you're coming from, are you also against all other holidays or rememberances? Those having to do with culture, race, religion, gender, etc? If the people here would also be against the "seperation" of people having to with something like Christianity, during Christmas or Easter, it would help me understand your mentality.
I mention Christmas or Easter because they are steeped in Christianity, which is not inclusive of other religions. At the same time, these days are accepted as positive things. Of course, I'm only assuming those here who have a problem with black history month don't have a problem with religious days. Am I wrong?
i look at febuary, like any other month. I really am not interested in black history, considering i learn all about it in history class. I dont exactly see why months should be named after different cultures either, like is there a jewish month? or a mexican month? I mean it really doesnt matter to me, although im not black.
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i look at febuary, like any other month. I really am not interested in black history, considering i learn all about it in history class. I dont exactly see why months should be named after different cultures either, like is there a jewish month? or a mexican month? I mean it really doesnt matter to me, although im not black.
So you might didn't learn the orgin of the month, but you don't show intrest, yet now you wonder why you don't see why the month should be black history month. Maybe this is the time where you start to learn.
Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing? Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
My mentality is that I'm just over all the separation of people. It's tiring now and even to the point of burdensome.
I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
Just so that I understand where you're coming from, are you also against all other holidays or rememberances? Those having to do with culture, race, religion, gender, etc? If the people here would also be against the "seperation" of people having to with something like Christianity, during Christmas or Easter, it would help me understand your mentality.
I mention Christmas or Easter because they are steeped in Christianity, which is not inclusive of other religions. At the same time, these days are accepted as positive things. Of course, I'm only assuming those here who have a problem with black history month don't have a problem with religious days. Am I wrong?
Did you notice that part I wrote about cultural differences? I think those things you listed (Christmas, etc.) are more cultural. Racial celebrations make no sense to me. Especially in a country as racially diverse as America. Should I be all celebratory for being white??? I don't think so, I think that's kind of weird. Which is why I don't get the whole racial celebration thing.
Cultural celebrations I do understand though. Want to celebrate your outdoor loving culture, your culture that loves biking, your culture that emphasizes love for freedom and liberty, then have at it. But just celebrating what color you happened to be born as makes me feel kind of strange.
i look at febuary, like any other month. I really am not interested in black history, considering i learn all about it in history class. I dont exactly see why months should be named after different cultures either, like is there a jewish month? or a mexican month? I mean it really doesnt matter to me, although im not black.
Black is not a culture. It's a race.
Not every black person acts the same. So they are all of different cultures.
I think that's the problem. People are getting the two mixed up.
Am I the only one who feels it's kind of weird just to celebrate which body your soul happened to plop into during it's landing on this planet?
What's next, red headed history month? As strange as that sounds is how strange it sounds to me to do the same about color. If people truly want to live out M.L. King Jr.'s dream of being judged by the content of character, then I feel like this color thing needs to end. Do what he said, focus on content of character. Regardless of race.
i look at febuary, like any other month. I really am not interested in black history, considering i learn all about it in history class. I dont exactly see why months should be named after different cultures either, like is there a jewish month? or a mexican month? I mean it really doesnt matter to me, although im not black.
Black is not a culture. It's a race.
Not every black person acts the same. So they are all of different cultures.
I think that's the problem. People are getting the two mixed up.
Am I the only one who feels it's kind of weird just to celebrate which body your soul happened to plop into during it's landing on this planet?
What's next, red headed history month? As strange as that sounds is how strange it sounds to me to do the same about color. If people truly want to live out M.L. King Jr.'s dream of being judged by the content of character, then I feel like this color thing needs to end. Do what he said, focus on content of character. Regardless of race.
erm sry, i meant race not culture. And i agree with you on why we name months after a race that obviously has been opressed. Whats next? jewish history month? indian history month? i dunno but i think what happened to the jews and indians was worse than what happened to blacks, and no im not racist
I dont understand why we name months after a certain group of people, and i read earlier in the thread how the other 11 months are "white months" wich is complete BS. They are not called "white months" they are just a month. This whole "months named after races" was started with blacks, and they seem to want to say that white people are oppressing them by making only one month a black month and the rest white .... When in reality before there was months named after people there were just months ..... lol sry if it sounds confusing. It just sounds stupid, and i dont think anyone should have a month, its useless and creates controversy
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Originally posted by Rikimaru_ White history is celebrated all the time thought US history and more.
So when my teacher taught me in fifth grade about George Washington Carver in the middle of October, she should have waited until February to do it? February is for blacks, the rest is for whites? I mean, that's what you're saying, right? Because if we start celebrating black accomplishments outside of February, then that invalidates Black History Month.
The whole argument against having a White History Month and a White Entertainment Television is flawed at best, racist at worst. I think it was either Bernie Mac or Cedric the Entertainer who said "Black people are the most racist people on Earth. Do you realize how crazy we'd all get if they came out with a White Entertainment Television?"
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Violent, you need to look at the history of Black History Month. You know just as well as I do when I made that statement, it dosen't mean white history is all the rest of the year or that there is no black history after or before the month of February. You know that.
Not to get bogged down by the semantic difference between race and culture, but I think its funny that you say you consider religion a culture, but not race. I guess I would have to know what your definition of culture and race are to even understand what you meant. You see, because this is the definition of culture that I've come to know.
1. a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.
2. the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group: the youth culture; the drug culture.
The time that black history month focuses on is the time during and after slavery in America. African American is an ethnicity, so would fall under the second definition too. These definitions were taken from dictionary.com. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that you still don't believe African American is a culture though. It seems that its easier for you to rationalize things if it isn't. But if you look at the definitions, and do consider African American to be a culture, do you then understand celebrating it?
That aside, black history is not celebrating the color of skin. Its celebrating a group of peoples' place in history. If you don't care to learn anything about that group of people, fine. But if you think that African Americans are getting some sort of special treatment, different from religions or other ethnicities and cultures, I think you're just wrong. If you don't want to recognize black culture, that's fine too.
In the end, I don't really care if some of you dislike black history month just because it has to do with black people. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just curious as to the mentality, that's all.
So I firstly apologize if I add flames to this matter.
Second off if you offer saint patricks day (a day for mainly irish catholics anyhow) as a learning holiday then you can go $^^@ yourself with a rusty iron spoon. For that matter most of these iconic days are commercials.
Thats like saying "Hey you have kwanza", so lets take away the history month, sorry guys hands tied. If we give you these two, those drunken mc's are going to want a month too.
Now that I have that off my chest.
I love black history month, partially because it gives one a perspective in roots, especially a society that in essence was cut off from their history in the first place, much of it atleast.
However I failed to mention this, I don't bother with black history month. I'm always reading historical facts and conclusions from all of the world and much of it is from africa. See>later on.
See it is not the history, or the month people. It's the fact there IS a history to be studied.
But lets not fool ourselves, most of the time black history month is just a factiod fest, or the subject of a standup comedian, or perhaps a hot topic on a forum.
Much of it consists of this.
"Did you know: The first refridgerating device was made by a black guy!" -mis spelt for funzies as seen in my old elementary black history guide-
"Did you know: a black guy invented the first peanut oil product for consumption"
"Why isn't there a <insert race history month>"
Rarely do we hear about how Africa the cradle and start of humanity has played in the role of past/modern society. No instead we get factoids.
All through school it was always the same stuff. As if Black history accounted 150 years and that was it.
I think the biggest problem is the fact that Black history month has been used as a celebration, and a holiday.
Where as it should be used at the time to consider just what the world really is , and to simply sum the practical history of the world in one month is an insult in it self. A time to ponder ALL of humanitys roots. Just how far we as a race (human) have come and just how far we need to go.
I know it sucks to consider this guys. (for those of you who care about pigment of skin tone)
We all came from there. Guess what? Most africans are indeed...Black! I know!
Scientific evidence shows such and until I see differently I will always consider Africa the birth place of mankind. And as such deserves more history lessons then what we get now. I learned more about england in school than africa. ENGLAND the original mortal enemy of America.
But to simply say white history accounts the remaining 11 months would simply show how ignorant and what stage of life you are in (high school, jr high, below) , you see you are not forced to learn one culture or pigments history, you are open to learn from it all. You understand such right? Who cares of the pigment of skin and how it relates to history, just read up and learn.
It is human history. It is what we are. No color or culture can defeat the fact we all have brains and a beating heart.
Who cares what it is titled, who gives a flying %$$% about the BET or how there is not any equal. Seriously have you watched BET lately? It sucks anyhow. I believe it harms the black culture more than helps simply because of the stereotyped ignorance that tends to play through it contantly. Sure you get a few good shows but the rest is just groan worthy crap.
It is late, So I firstly apologize if I add flames to this matter. Second off if you offer saint patricks day (a day for mainly irish catholics anyhow) as a learning holiday then you can go $^^@ yourself with a rusty iron spoon. For that matter most of these iconic days are commercials. Thats like saying "Hey you have kwanza", so lets take away the history month, sorry guys hands tied. If we give you these two, those drunken mc's are going to want a month too. Now that I have that off my chest. I love black history month, partially because it gives one a perspective in roots, especially a society that in essence was cut off from their history in the first place, much of it atleast. However I failed to mention this, I don't bother with black history month. I'm always reading historical facts and conclusions from all of the world and much of it is from africa. See>later on. See it is not the history, or the month people. It's the fact there IS a history to be studied. But lets not fool ourselves, most of the time black history month is just a factiod fest, or the subject of a standup comedian, or perhaps a hot topic on a forum. Much of it consists of this. "Did you know: The first refridgerating device was made by a black guy!" -mis spelt for funzies as seen in my old elementary black history guide- "Did you know: a black guy invented the first peanut oil product for consumption" "Why isn't there a <insert race history month>" Rarely do we hear about how Africa the cradle and start of humanity has played in the role of past/modern society. No instead we get factoids. All through school it was always the same stuff. As if Black history accounted 150 years and that was it. I think the biggest problem is the fact that Black history month has been used as a celebration, and a holiday. Where as it should be used at the time to consider just what the world really is , and to simply sum the practical history of the world in one month is an insult in it self. A time to ponder ALL of humanitys roots. Just how far we as a race (human) have come and just how far we need to go. I know it sucks to consider this guys. (for those of you who care about pigment of skin tone) We all came from there. Guess what? Most africans are indeed...Black! I know! Scientific evidence shows such and until I see differently I will always consider Africa the birth place of mankind. And as such deserves more history lessons then what we get now. I learned more about england in school than africa. ENGLAND the original mortal enemy of America. But to simply say white history accounts the remaining 11 months would simply show how ignorant and what stage of life you are in (high school, jr high, below) , you see you are not forced to learn one culture or pigments history, you are open to learn from it all. You understand such right? Who cares of the pigment of skin and how it relates to history, just read up and learn. It is human history. It is what we are. No color or culture can defeat the fact we all have brains and a beating heart. Who cares what it is titled, who gives a flying %$$% about the BET or how there is not any equal. Seriously have you watched BET lately? It sucks anyhow. I believe it harms the black culture more than helps simply because of the stereotyped ignorance that tends to play through it contantly. Sure you get a few good shows but the rest is just groan worthy crap. A WET or AET would probally get just as bad.
I have been on these forums for a while now but this is the first time anything has surprised me. Your comments are the reason why there is a black history month, to take black people further away from the truth. Many have fallen for this slave mentality and make a point celebrating it. but others are fully aware of there grand history and the time when all children of the sun were black.
Makes you wonder what would be required for humans in general to stop focusing on there singular differences and focus on there commonalities. Ever seen how unified people tend to get when something comes up that makes our differences pale in importance compared to our capacities? Raw humanity can be a beautiful thing. Also extremely volatile. Deep down were still the creatures we always were. It took time to change into the cultures and races we are now. It will take time if ever for us to reunite. We have the choice. Do we have the capacity to make the choice.... That remains to be seen.
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It is late, So I firstly apologize if I add flames to this matter. Second off if you offer saint patricks day (a day for mainly irish catholics anyhow) as a learning holiday then you can go $^^@ yourself with a rusty iron spoon. For that matter most of these iconic days are commercials. Thats like saying "Hey you have kwanza", so lets take away the history month, sorry guys hands tied. If we give you these two, those drunken mc's are going to want a month too. Now that I have that off my chest. I love black history month, partially because it gives one a perspective in roots, especially a society that in essence was cut off from their history in the first place, much of it atleast. However I failed to mention this, I don't bother with black history month. I'm always reading historical facts and conclusions from all of the world and much of it is from africa. See>later on. See it is not the history, or the month people. It's the fact there IS a history to be studied. But lets not fool ourselves, most of the time black history month is just a factiod fest, or the subject of a standup comedian, or perhaps a hot topic on a forum. Much of it consists of this. "Did you know: The first refridgerating device was made by a black guy!" -mis spelt for funzies as seen in my old elementary black history guide- "Did you know: a black guy invented the first peanut oil product for consumption" "Why isn't there a <insert race history month>" Rarely do we hear about how Africa the cradle and start of humanity has played in the role of past/modern society. No instead we get factoids. All through school it was always the same stuff. As if Black history accounted 150 years and that was it. I think the biggest problem is the fact that Black history month has been used as a celebration, and a holiday. Where as it should be used at the time to consider just what the world really is , and to simply sum the practical history of the world in one month is an insult in it self. A time to ponder ALL of humanitys roots. Just how far we as a race (human) have come and just how far we need to go. I know it sucks to consider this guys. (for those of you who care about pigment of skin tone) We all came from there. Guess what? Most africans are indeed...Black! I know! Scientific evidence shows such and until I see differently I will always consider Africa the birth place of mankind. And as such deserves more history lessons then what we get now. I learned more about england in school than africa. ENGLAND the original mortal enemy of America. But to simply say white history accounts the remaining 11 months would simply show how ignorant and what stage of life you are in (high school, jr high, below) , you see you are not forced to learn one culture or pigments history, you are open to learn from it all. You understand such right? Who cares of the pigment of skin and how it relates to history, just read up and learn. It is human history. It is what we are. No color or culture can defeat the fact we all have brains and a beating heart. Who cares what it is titled, who gives a flying %$$% about the BET or how there is not any equal. Seriously have you watched BET lately? It sucks anyhow. I believe it harms the black culture more than helps simply because of the stereotyped ignorance that tends to play through it contantly. Sure you get a few good shows but the rest is just groan worthy crap. A WET or AET would probally get just as bad.
I have been on these forums for a while now but this is the first time anything has surprised me. Your comments are the reason why there is a black history month, to take black people further away from the truth. Many have fallen for this slave mentality and make a point celebrating it. but others are fully aware of there grand history and the time when all children of the sun were black.
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Agreed, it's almost as though to keep people in the dark.
It is the same reason why the nose on the sphinx was decimated.
It's the same reason why black history month RARELY tells of the kings in africa and how their wealth was literally craved by all societies.
But we will learn of a peanut, some slave songs, and thats about it.
It's terrible. I urge anyone who cares about humanities true roots to study africa and stop being afraid to admit that is home.
It's just a pigment, we are all humans. Like it or not we all come from the same place.
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Black history month lol.. Contrary to 15-16 century racist belief black history covers thousands of years from Noah to the last black/berber/moors empire of the middle ages which ruled the whole of southern Europe.
Here is something to chew on...
If the person you call Jesus walked past you today none of you would recognize him. Contrary to what your local bishop or RE class told you in school or the NT has taught you..there was never any one called Jesus in the bible.
David married outside his tribe which you can hear in the.. Song of Solomon verse 4... which changes to Negro to Mulatto , as a result of marring a Canaanite/Arab type person.
When i say bible i mean the original and true bible the old testament not the European rewrite. His name was Yahusua Ben Yosef which means salvation. He did not have blonde hair ..lol and blue eyes..he looked like other biblical Judah`s/Israelites of that time.meaning black not what we call jews today.
Do not mistake the modern day europen jew converts as the same people of judah in the bible. The word Jew did not come into existence until 1514 A.D. The literal meaning of the word Jew is derived form the tribe of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, twin brother to Esau, sons of Isaac, son of Abraham, who was from Asher. Genesis Chapter 10:6-14 states within that line of descendants, you find Asher in verse 11; these were descendants from the sons of Ham, which means Black and has been verified to be Sudan today, and Sudan means Black in Arabic.
Yahushua comes from this line which lead all the way back to Noah who was black. These are facts in the bible weather people like it or not its there in black and white.
The oldest depiction of Yahusua was found in a roman church in AD 530 -40 ish ..i am not sure of the exact date but its around there. The picture shows him to be of Negroid decent.
Just a quick rundown.. Genesis 5:32 clearly states that Noah was 500 years old when he begat three sons...meaning he was 50 years old when his wife Namah had triplets. When the floods came Noah was 600 years old ..meaning he was 60 and his sons would of been 10 years old.
In Genesis 6:9 it states "And these are the generations of Noah" this means that Noah`s genes had not been racially mixed at that point and that is why God said he was perfect in his generations.
Where is this all going you ask lol..well next time you look at that cross and bow down to a false idol remember they are having you over.
This is where it gets interesting..Noahs three sons were named..Shem, Ham and Japheth. This is not a rant or a black thing..its just interesting to see how many people actually now the true facts as its written in the real bible.
The Sons of Ham/Sudan means black.. Oldest to youngest.. I have put there true Hebrew name beside them as it reads in Genesis. Hams brothers children make up the other 9 which then become the 12 true tribes of israelites.
Cush(ethiopia), Mizzaim (egypt), Phut (cathage/Libya and Canaan," who was cursed and settled outside of Africa in the the so called middle east. This family is traced through the bible in a straight line to David , who violates the law and marries a Canaanite , which was strictly forbidden by God, who in Genesis 24: 3-4 issued a command not to marry outside of one`s own people so not to damage the perfect genealogy of the holy seed.
Great isn't it...
Yahushua was called the Lamb of God in the bible with woolly, Nappy ,kinky hair just like lambs wool and black people you see today. His feet are described as burnt brass.
The name Jesus..
The name Jesus comes from the Greek/Latin corruption of the Messiah's original Hebrew name. Originally, the name of the Messiah was , pronounced Yahushua. This is the Messiah's original name. When the Gentiles tried to transliterate His name into Greek, they came up with ihsoun or "Iesous"When Iesous was transliterated into Latin, it became "Iesus", which was then carried over into English it became our modern day "Jesus" when the letter "J" developed.
Sad but true ..once European 15-16 century racist historians and scientist got hold of the bible and rewrote it in key area they used it to convince the common folk that blacks had no place in history and slavery was there given right. They convinced people that Noah had three sons lol..one black ,one white and the other Asian lol all of the same black mother and farther.
This is how they convinced the common folk for 400 years that slavery was right while they lined there fat pockets. Its sort of the same thing today with Islam( i am not a muslin lol) and how bush links it with terror so he can invade OIL rich countries to control the world resources to keep country's like China/Indian/Russia at bay, then its was the sale of millions of blacks from Africa and large parts of Europe.
He cant round them all up on slave ships like they were still doing only 120 years ago so he feeds the world constant bs about people who just happen to be sitting on endless oil reserves. America and Europe have been at Iraq and Iran's oil supply for the last 100 years or so. They have made deals and funded wars ..ie suddam/kurdish war but as soon as these nations don't play ball all hell breaks loose.
Anyway i hope you enjoyed the history lesson..
Did you know the original Kermit/egyptians were black which ended with the passing of the 25th dynasty meaning king tut.
ill leave that for another day..
Did you know there have been four Black Roman Emperors..
Did you know that eye witnesses describe beethoven as being Moorish mulatto ..ie half black and half belgium.
These things are never mentioned and most black people have not bothered to look at where they come from. This is still part of the slave mentality that has been so ingrained its disappeared. They only have to look at ancient Kermit to see the names of there black kings and queens like Ramses and Nefertiti.
The Romans great eye witness accounts of the egyptians and the Israelites and nubians. Describing them as being black as night and having hair like lambs wool.
Here you can see some of the names of the last full black egyptian pharaohs before the Arabs invaded egypt of which you can see there descendant still there today in the shape of modern Kermit's.
Kermit is the ancient name of the land we call egypt today.
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fantastic how you injected bush into your otherwise, interesting read.
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I just dont approve of any ______(insert nationality) history month.
simple because if we do one for every group of people who were oppressed in america alone we would run out of months.
Because i know we couldn't have a "native american history month) we would have to have one for the major groups of tribes, one for the japanese(whole internment camp thing in WWII), hispanics, etc.
I am entirely in favor of teaching the history involved in black history month and other such nationalities but having to give it a month to give it attention is a tragedy, it should just be part of the curriculum.
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Why the separation still. Blacks were there during the whole growth of our nation. Blacks were not a separate part of our evolution. So why the need for a separate history?
Why can't we just look at our nation and how it has grown into what it is now. A nation that is getting better and better at racial harmony. I don't know of any other nation in the whole world with more ethnicities in it than America. And each one of them are a part of our WHOLE history.
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Couldn't people just make an attempt to see black history a positive thing? Is learning really that painful a thing?
Some of you act as though a month is too long, as though on Febuary 1st you get up and are forced to learn something about a black person. You wake up on Febuary 2nd and have everyone at your work wearing Kente cloth etc. Its just a time that people are reminded about black history. When I was in school, we took the week of St. Patrick's Day to learn about St. Patrick and some Irish history. Would it have been a valid response to say, "I don't want to learn about any specific person on any specific day, everyone should get equal time on random days." I really don't get some of your mentalities.
hey guy, there are plenty of other valid responses besides the childish one you chose to display in your remark. nothing to do with the month being too long.
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Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
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I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
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Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
It was when I took American history. I learned all about Sojourner Truth, Martin Luther King Jr, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, etc....And that was going to school in a little town in Alabama. If it gets bad then it can't get much worse than that!
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Don't take me out of context from somebody's reply. They they made it a black/white thing so I had to resort to the same method. Blacks wasn't even in much American History neither.
It was when I took American history. I learned all about Sojourner Truth, Martin Luther King Jr, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, etc....And that was going to school in a little town in Alabama. If it gets bad then it can't get much worse than that!
Oh yeah man, of course it is now. I mean it started back in 1926 with Negro History Week. Think how things were back then...but there is a lot more where that came from.
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hey guy, there are plenty of other valid responses besides the childish one you chose to display in your remark. nothing to do with the month being too long.
I said people act as though "a" month is too long, not "the" month. I assume that you thought I was being sarcastic because Febuary is the shortest month. If it isn't what you thought I meant, then I don't know what you're talking about. In my defense, I did say "a" month.
People have no problem with days, for example, Sain't Patrick's day, Cinco de Mayo, or Chinese New Year etc. I don't see anyone complaining that these days should not be recognized. If it isn't the "month", out of black history month that people have such a problem with, maybe its something else?
My mentality is that I'm just over all the separation of people. It's tiring now and even to the point of burdensome.I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
Just so that I understand where you're coming from, are you also against all other holidays or rememberances? Those having to do with culture, race, religion, gender, etc? If the people here would also be against the "seperation" of people having to with something like Christianity, during Christmas or Easter, it would help me understand your mentality.
I mention Christmas or Easter because they are steeped in Christianity, which is not inclusive of other religions. At the same time, these days are accepted as positive things. Of course, I'm only assuming those here who have a problem with black history month don't have a problem with religious days. Am I wrong?
i look at febuary, like any other month. I really am not interested in black history, considering i learn all about it in history class. I dont exactly see why months should be named after different cultures either, like is there a jewish month? or a mexican month? I mean it really doesnt matter to me, although im not black.
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So you might didn't learn the orgin of the month, but you don't show intrest, yet now you wonder why you don't see why the month should be black history month. Maybe this is the time where you start to learn.
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I'm just ready for us all to be American's!
Besides that, I see that there are more cultural differences in America now than there are racial differences. Those cultural differences cross racial lines and people seem to relate to those more than their color nowadays.
Just so that I understand where you're coming from, are you also against all other holidays or rememberances? Those having to do with culture, race, religion, gender, etc? If the people here would also be against the "seperation" of people having to with something like Christianity, during Christmas or Easter, it would help me understand your mentality.
I mention Christmas or Easter because they are steeped in Christianity, which is not inclusive of other religions. At the same time, these days are accepted as positive things. Of course, I'm only assuming those here who have a problem with black history month don't have a problem with religious days. Am I wrong?
Did you notice that part I wrote about cultural differences? I think those things you listed (Christmas, etc.) are more cultural. Racial celebrations make no sense to me. Especially in a country as racially diverse as America. Should I be all celebratory for being white??? I don't think so, I think that's kind of weird. Which is why I don't get the whole racial celebration thing.Cultural celebrations I do understand though. Want to celebrate your outdoor loving culture, your culture that loves biking, your culture that emphasizes love for freedom and liberty, then have at it. But just celebrating what color you happened to be born as makes me feel kind of strange.
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Not every black person acts the same. So they are all of different cultures.
I think that's the problem. People are getting the two mixed up.
Am I the only one who feels it's kind of weird just to celebrate which body your soul happened to plop into during it's landing on this planet?
What's next, red headed history month? As strange as that sounds is how strange it sounds to me to do the same about color. If people truly want to live out M.L. King Jr.'s dream of being judged by the content of character, then I feel like this color thing needs to end. Do what he said, focus on content of character. Regardless of race.
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Not every black person acts the same. So they are all of different cultures.
I think that's the problem. People are getting the two mixed up.
Am I the only one who feels it's kind of weird just to celebrate which body your soul happened to plop into during it's landing on this planet?
What's next, red headed history month? As strange as that sounds is how strange it sounds to me to do the same about color. If people truly want to live out M.L. King Jr.'s dream of being judged by the content of character, then I feel like this color thing needs to end. Do what he said, focus on content of character. Regardless of race.
erm sry, i meant race not culture. And i agree with you on why we name months after a race that obviously has been opressed. Whats next? jewish history month? indian history month? i dunno but i think what happened to the jews and indians was worse than what happened to blacks, and no im not racist
I dont understand why we name months after a certain group of people, and i read earlier in the thread how the other 11 months are "white months" wich is complete BS. They are not called "white months" they are just a month. This whole "months named after races" was started with blacks, and they seem to want to say that white people are oppressing them by making only one month a black month and the rest white .... When in reality before there was months named after people there were just months ..... lol sry if it sounds confusing. It just sounds stupid, and i dont think anyone should have a month, its useless and creates controversy
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The whole argument against having a White History Month and a White Entertainment Television is flawed at best, racist at worst. I think it was either Bernie Mac or Cedric the Entertainer who said "Black people are the most racist people on Earth. Do you realize how crazy we'd all get if they came out with a White Entertainment Television?"
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Violent, you need to look at the history of Black History Month. You know just as well as I do when I made that statement, it dosen't mean white history is all the rest of the year or that there is no black history after or before the month of February. You know that.
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Not to get bogged down by the semantic difference between race and culture, but I think its funny that you say you consider religion a culture, but not race. I guess I would have to know what your definition of culture and race are to even understand what you meant. You see, because this is the definition of culture that I've come to know.
1. a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.
2. the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group: the youth culture; the drug culture.
The time that black history month focuses on is the time during and after slavery in America. African American is an ethnicity, so would fall under the second definition too. These definitions were taken from dictionary.com. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that you still don't believe African American is a culture though. It seems that its easier for you to rationalize things if it isn't. But if you look at the definitions, and do consider African American to be a culture, do you then understand celebrating it?
That aside, black history is not celebrating the color of skin. Its celebrating a group of peoples' place in history. If you don't care to learn anything about that group of people, fine. But if you think that African Americans are getting some sort of special treatment, different from religions or other ethnicities and cultures, I think you're just wrong. If you don't want to recognize black culture, that's fine too.
In the end, I don't really care if some of you dislike black history month just because it has to do with black people. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just curious as to the mentality, that's all.
It is late,
So I firstly apologize if I add flames to this matter.
Second off if you offer saint patricks day (a day for mainly irish catholics anyhow) as a learning holiday then you can go $^^@ yourself with a rusty iron spoon. For that matter most of these iconic days are commercials.
Thats like saying "Hey you have kwanza", so lets take away the history month, sorry guys hands tied. If we give you these two, those drunken mc's are going to want a month too.
Now that I have that off my chest.
I love black history month, partially because it gives one a perspective in roots, especially a society that in essence was cut off from their history in the first place, much of it atleast.
However I failed to mention this, I don't bother with black history month. I'm always reading historical facts and conclusions from all of the world and much of it is from africa. See>later on.
See it is not the history, or the month people. It's the fact there IS a history to be studied.
But lets not fool ourselves, most of the time black history month is just a factiod fest, or the subject of a standup comedian, or perhaps a hot topic on a forum.
Much of it consists of this.
"Did you know: The first refridgerating device was made by a black guy!" -mis spelt for funzies as seen in my old elementary black history guide-
"Did you know: a black guy invented the first peanut oil product for consumption"
"Why isn't there a <insert race history month>"
Rarely do we hear about how Africa the cradle and start of humanity has played in the role of past/modern society. No instead we get factoids.
All through school it was always the same stuff. As if Black history accounted 150 years and that was it.
I think the biggest problem is the fact that Black history month has been used as a celebration, and a holiday.
Where as it should be used at the time to consider just what the world really is , and to simply sum the practical history of the world in one month is an insult in it self. A time to ponder ALL of humanitys roots. Just how far we as a race (human) have come and just how far we need to go.
I know it sucks to consider this guys. (for those of you who care about pigment of skin tone)
We all came from there. Guess what? Most africans are indeed...Black! I know!
Scientific evidence shows such and until I see differently I will always consider Africa the birth place of mankind. And as such deserves more history lessons then what we get now. I learned more about england in school than africa. ENGLAND the original mortal enemy of America.
But to simply say white history accounts the remaining 11 months would simply show how ignorant and what stage of life you are in (high school, jr high, below) , you see you are not forced to learn one culture or pigments history, you are open to learn from it all. You understand such right? Who cares of the pigment of skin and how it relates to history, just read up and learn.
It is human history. It is what we are. No color or culture can defeat the fact we all have brains and a beating heart.
Who cares what it is titled, who gives a flying %$$% about the BET or how there is not any equal. Seriously have you watched BET lately? It sucks anyhow. I believe it harms the black culture more than helps simply because of the stereotyped ignorance that tends to play through it contantly. Sure you get a few good shows but the rest is just groan worthy crap.
A WET or AET would probally get just as bad.
I have been on these forums for a while now but this is the first time anything has surprised me. Your comments are the reason why there is a black history month, to take black people further away from the truth. Many have fallen for this slave mentality and make a point celebrating it.
but others are fully aware of there grand history and the time when all children of the sun were black.
Great post...
Makes you wonder what would be required for humans in general to stop focusing on there singular differences and focus on there commonalities. Ever seen how unified people tend to get when something comes up that makes our differences pale in importance compared to our capacities? Raw humanity can be a beautiful thing. Also extremely volatile. Deep down were still the creatures we always were. It took time to change into the cultures and races we are now. It will take time if ever for us to reunite. We have the choice. Do we have the capacity to make the choice.... That remains to be seen.
The moderator at another gaming website posted a link to this article last week when a thread about racism popped up. The moderator said it was one of his favorite stories concerning gaming and racism. I'd have to agree, it is a good read, and probably unfortunately a fairly common occurance.
Note: Article does contain racist language. Linky
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I have been on these forums for a while now but this is the first time anything has surprised me. Your comments are the reason why there is a black history month, to take black people further away from the truth. Many have fallen for this slave mentality and make a point celebrating it.
but others are fully aware of there grand history and the time when all children of the sun were black.
Great post...
Agreed, it's almost as though to keep people in the dark.
It is the same reason why the nose on the sphinx was decimated.
It's the same reason why black history month RARELY tells of the kings in africa and how their wealth was literally craved by all societies.
But we will learn of a peanut, some slave songs, and thats about it.
It's terrible. I urge anyone who cares about humanities true roots to study africa and stop being afraid to admit that is home.
It's just a pigment, we are all humans. Like it or not we all come from the same place.