5 million already?

sonicwhip · March 2008

hi im just wondering something, does guild wars have 5 million players or just 5 million boxes sold? because if its players it has to be some kind of error i mean how would they possibly hit 5m players so soon if they never advertise or anything?

also when they hit 4 million not to long ago i read from the gw:eotn guide about Anet saying "im sure the rest 399,999,999 of you people are nice" so that probably means they hit 4m players and not boxes sold.

so now im sure they have 5m players.

emdt · March 2008

Most likely boxes sold. Guild War's population is decreasing or at least feels like it.

moka · March 2008

no the 5 million is the total number of Registered accounts

that includes accounts that contain more than one campain

here is a pic that i captured from the about us part from ncsoft website

the pic was taken before the 5 million thing

Godliest · March 2008

It's 5 million registered accounts (as you can see in the post above), but that doesn't mean it's 5 million active users, or I would rather say that the chance it's not is 99,99%.

exanimo · March 2008

mmm , let me guess , all of the posters are wow fans ... maybe not

anyway , 5 million boxes sold , is what they say in the press conference.

now becose there is no monthly fee , all boxes sold are active acounts.

people dont need to pay to be able to get in and play , they have the acount , if they want , just get in and play.

guildwars is the only game i play , and the game DOES NOT feel like its losing people ... actualy it feels like we have a brutal income of noobs everywhere.

iaini · March 2008

the last thing I read was GW seemed to maintain about 2 million *active* players... I can think of at least 7 people I know who bought GW but don't play it for various reasons. The population in game seems to explode on holiday events though.

8hammer8 · March 2008

Originally posted by neoteo

mmm , let me guess , all of the posters are wow fans ... maybe not
anyway , 5 million boxes sold , is what they say in the press conference.
now becose there is no monthly fee , all boxes sold are active acounts.
people dont need to pay to be able to get in and play , they have the acount , if they want , just get in and play.
guildwars is the only game i play , and the game DOES NOT feel like its losing people ... actualy it feels like we have a brutal income of noobs everywhere.

I always enjoy when Neoteo posts because a lot of the time his points make sense.

However I think you did slightly over-react with your WoW fans comment...

I stopped playing guild wars everyday (which I had done for 2 1/2 straight years) back in November and I fine myself drawn back to it more and more again. I think there are just as many people on as before but as Neo said...there is a huge amount of new players. And as usual, at least PvP wise they all use wiki FoTM builds.

I am a PvEer by nature and the problem is, I feel I am too good at it. Give me a somewhat competent group and I could help plow through pretty much any mission. Obviously mistakes happen and sudden wipes occur to groups, but overall I feel I have mastered that aspect. I know there are tons and tons of players that might be better than me out there, it is just my reasoning for shying away from the game for a while. Near 3000 hours of game time help you get a feel for things. It has been interesting though now that we have moved our guild into a HM alliance...I am enjoying new strategy and build changing again and that is what is drawing me back little by little.

GW was and always will be my first love.

Now what would be interesting is if Anet advertised total characters like some games do...5 million x 6 characters average. GW tops the 30 million character mark!!!!!!!!!!one!shift+1!!!one! Remember people you can always make numbers and statistics say whatever you want and there are people who will always take them for undeniable fact. If you enjoy GW great welcome to the club, if not move on...people should only play what they enjoy.

justmyself · March 2008

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5 millions registered accounts doesn't means 5 millions of players.

I've bought Guild Wars about year ago and I haven't play this game for about 6 months now because it's BORING.

Go buy WoW. There are 10 millions of PLAYERS.

Nadia · March 2008

this info is a year old - but it give a general idea
gigaom.com/2006/10/26/guild-wars/

Garriott estimates 100,000 people play Guild Wars across the US and EU at any given time, and 1.5-2 million total every month

sonicwhip · March 2008

oh so its 5m users!

thats prob like 1.5m left. i hope they all come back for guild wars 2.

Lonesamurai1 · March 2008

Well here's the ACTUAL press release that went out to all media outlets, including my station and MMORPG.com wold have had this exact press release aswell

And yes, its units sold, not registered accounts

Guild Wars Tops Five Million Units Sold

Guild Wars franchise breaks major milestone in less than three years.

Tuesday 26th February/... Brighton, UK — NCsoft® Europe and ArenaNet® have announced that the Guild Wars® franchise of online roleplaying games has surpassed five million units sold in Europe, North America, and Asia.

Published by NCsoft and developed by ArenaNet, the Guild Wars franchise consists of the original Guild Wars, Guild Wars Factions™, Guild Wars Nightfall™, and the recently released expansion, Guild Wars: Eye of the North™. The Guild Wars games have been commercial and critical successes since the release of the original campaign in April of 2005. Its award-winning content and innovative subscription-free business model have created a large and loyal following that is highly anticipating Guild Wars® 2.

“Guild Wars is a proven success and has set a new standard for online RPG games with its unique business model and superior playability,” said NCsoft CEO Taek Jin Kim. “ArenaNet is dedicated to creating games that expand the market and provide great new content to our loyal player base. This success has built a great foundation from which the next generation of Guild Wars games will grow.”

With the development of Guild Wars 2 underway, ArenaNet will continue to provide dedicated support to current Guild Wars games and its millions of customers.

“Reaching the five million mark is extremely gratifying for us at ArenaNet because it shows the hard work and dedication we put into our games has resonated with the fans,” said Mike O’Brien, co-founder of ArenaNet. “We are committed to supporting all of our Guild Wars players, and at the same time, we’re extremely excited to work on the game’s evolution. Certainly the future of Guild Wars is as bright as its past and present.”

For more information on the Guild Wars franchise, visit the Guild Wars website at http://www.discoverguildwars.com. The award-winning Guild Wars series, including the recently released Guild Wars: Eye of the North, can be purchased from retailers or downloaded from the PlayNC store at http://eu.plaync.com/eu/store/.

asasenpai · March 2008

Originally posted by justmyself

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5 millions registered accounts doesn't means 5 millions of players.
I've bought Guild Wars about year ago and I haven't play this game for about 6 months now because it's BORING.

Go buy WoW. There are 10 millions of PLAYERS.

You are an arrogant prick go back to your own forum and never post here again.

Frey · March 2008

Originally posted by vampiretrix

right you are! guildwars is a great game people, and i hate all of these fights between wow and gw: you simply can't compare them! It's like comparing pong and tetris: two completly different things. And GW is more active then ever: there are bunches of noobs, and loads of good players. And GW isn't boring, you just need to get far enough to get to the fun content... looks like 90% of all people who posted here never finished any campaign (I finished every campaign and gwen), and never have been in the Fissure of Woe, the Underworld or kormir's thingie (always forget the name). And the Realm of Torment is fucking hard, but it's fun. And WoW is older then GW; around 1 year, and GuildWars his engine is still one of the best around for MMO's (even though some games are getting more beautiful, but GW was a revolution). And the engine still suprises me... nobody here ever visited the Cathedral of Flames in Hard Mode (in GWEN?)... probably not... it's hard and so beautiful... i've tried wow, and it's not a good game in my eyes: it lacks what i like, and i really don't like level grinding...
And GW has loads of players: check every district in the game at 12 pm and you'll see that there are loads of people in every city in every district (not too much in the international ones... who uses those?)

Yeah they are completely different things, WoW is a very successful MMORPG. Guildwars is not.

SinzOfMan · March 2008

before they started selling character slots, alot of people made 2 accounts and had to buy 2 boxes just to be able to make all the characters. so that 5 mil is very misleading.

some people have 3 accounts just to have characters to act as storage. arena net were very smart in holding out on certain things (character slots, limited storage space) they knew they didn't need to charge a monthly fee to make money. and that "no monthly fee" line would sell even more copies. smart folk!!

still I have no complaints, it's a fun little game that you can take a break from whenever you want without that mindset of, damn I need to get my money's worth better play!!

Though when you do the math, 3 campaigns at $49.99 and the expansion for $39.99 you've spent $216 with tax and if you play for 1 year that's $18/month lol.. I've been playin 2 years and got some cheaper deals so I've been paying only $8/month. Not so bad, basically the earlier you started playing the more money you've managed to stretch out of this game. this is not taking into account the extra character slots, skills packs, missions and what not you've bought, or having 2 accounts. Still, not HAVING to pay every month is worth it to me and the longer I play the less I've spent per month.

Hopefully they don't shut the servers down when GW2 comes out.

Suplyndmnd · March 2008

Originally posted by neoteo

actualy it feels like we have a brutal income of noobs everywhere.

I'm so gonna use this for now on lol. I love the contempt with the backhandedness of the comment. A++++++ Would buy from again +++++++

SinzOfMan · March 2008

Originally posted by vampiretrix

Hopefully they don't shut the servers down when GW2 comes out.

They won't: Gaile Gray said that they love GuildWars and that they won't stop the game soon!

And GuildWars is succesful! I have 9 character slots without buying 1 from the shop (4 from Prop, 2 from Factions, 2 from Nightfall + 1 bonus slot from the presale of Nightfall)... GuildWars is nice, and i'm tired off all this fights between WoW fans and GW fans...

I have 9 character slots too, same way you got them. so if you have 8 characters, and a pvp character. that's 2 professions you can't make!! I don't have a mesmer or a ritualist

I sure as heck ain't buyin another 2 character slots for $20 though.

And it's good to hear they will keep the servers up, but you wonder how much they will work on skill balances and what not when GW2 comes. People get bored playin the same overpowered builds.

BattleFelon · March 2008

It doesn't matter if 5 million players are online at any one time - Guild Wars is one of the best selling and most highly acclaimed games in PC History. Wikipedia now puts it on par with Diablo 2 in terms of total sales:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_selling_games#PC

I'm not a super active player anymore, but I do log on for special events and to occassionally work on titles and goodies for my hall of monuments. I can say that during festival events, the servers are still packed. GW seems to be the side game many people still enjoy.

As to the WOW fanboi who called Guild Wars boring, to me boring is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, grinding titles in Nightfall or Eye of the North can suck, but grinding for rep and badges of justice also sucks in WOW. At least GW offers double faction weekends where you can grind certain titles much faster than normal. I've also found GW's PVP far more engaging than WOW's.

exanimo · March 2008

about the titles , i want to add that , yes some can seam boring to get max at , but becose there are skills related to them , the reward is new game play , new skill combos .. that is just awsome.

like the ursan blessing , took me i dont remember how long to reach max norm title , but now i can join ursan teams to slain elite areas with cons ... soooo much fun , my record so far is 63 minutes clean fissure of fow all quests.

Red_Rider · March 2008

Nice big number, looks real good, but vague enough not to have too much meaning. Units sold. they can be main game, expansions or whatever. Registered accounts would give an idea on how many different people tried the game and how many people logged in a 30 day period would give an idea of active users.

WootNation · March 2008

5 million... wow...

Am I the only one who thinks EVERYONE in the game has a bunch of set skillsets that consist of a few heals and rest damage spells?

I dont see the challenge where you basically have to kill the same guy 5 times in order to kill him, they just keep bloody healing.

ThomasN7 · March 2008

Originally posted by WootNation

5 million... wow...

Am I the only one who thinks EVERYONE in the game has a bunch of set skillsets that consist of a few heals and rest damage spells?
I dont see the challenge where you basically have to kill the same guy 5 times in order to kill him, they just keep bloody healing.

No different than most rpg type games when it comes to pve. Pvp on the other hand is completely different. In Guild Wars it is all about team concept and builds.

WootNation · March 2008

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Originally posted by WootNation

5 million... wow...

Am I the only one who thinks EVERYONE in the game has a bunch of set skillsets that consist of a few heals and rest damage spells?
I dont see the challenge where you basically have to kill the same guy 5 times in order to kill him, they just keep bloody healing.

No different than most rpg type games when it comes to pve. Pvp on the other hand is completely different. In Guild Wars it is all about team concept and builds.

Aye, the PvE is fun but im a PvP maniac...

I guess some people like that concept, I prefer it to be skill based.

WootNation · March 2008

As in player skill

Arawon · March 2008

Five Million is impressive no matter how you slice it. I just wish we were talking about Guild Wars 2 and its impending introduction(sigh).

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