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Kentucky Lawmaker Wants to Make Anonymous Internet Posting Illegal

Kentucky Representative Tim Couch filed a bill this week to make anonymous posting online illegal.

The bill would require anyone who contributes to a website to register their real name, address and e-mail address with that site.

 Their full name would be used anytime a comment is posted.

If the bill becomes law, the website operator would have to pay if someone was allowed to post anonymously on their site. The fine would be five-hundred dollars for a first offense and one-thousand dollars for each offense after that.

Representative Couch says he filed the bill in hopes of cutting down on online bullying. He says that has especially been a problem in his Eastern Kentucky district.

Action News 36 asked people what they thought about the bill.

 Some said they felt it was a violation of First Amendment rights. Others say it is a good tool toward eliminating online harassment.

Represntative Couch says enforcing this bill if it became law would be a challenge.

http://www.wtvq.com/content/midatlantic/tvq/video.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2008-03-05-0011.html

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I highly dought this bill will ever pass.  But it is a slap in the face to every citizen to see elected officials trying to pass a bill like this.

Comments

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    I'm willing to bet that theirs a website forum somewhere where someone ridiculed poor Mr. Couch, and he's pissed 'cause he can't find out who they are and his ego hurts.

    It's a stupid law and he's an idiot for even proposing it. He needs to find better ways to waste the taxpayers time.

  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    So uhh tell me in kentucky instead of Wi Fi at the starbucks is it at the KFC????????



    I didn't even think they had any internet especially enough to pose a problem.

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  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Represntative Couch says enforcing this bill if it became law would be a challenge.

    No kidding.  Just slightly challenging.  BTW, this guy is a Rethug, of course.  The party of authoritarian assholes.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

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  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    how can this be applied as a state law wouldn't it have to be federal???????

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  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695

    As much as I would like to see some accountability to online anonymous blogs, posts, etc, this is also one of the less intelligent thoughts which result in legislative erosion of our privacy.

     

    I'd love to know if some of the posters on this forum would be so rash if we all knew who they were and where they lived.  I'm just brainstorming, but think about it for a second.  With the nature of the internet, poster A offends poster B and poster B checks their profile for their name and city.  Looks them up and harasses them at home, or worse their family / children.  Poster B approaches poster A's family aggressively at their home and gets shot and killed (like we can here in TX).  OOOh, the lawsuits and counter-suits that ensue....  Just thinking about the lengths the wrongful death suit would go.

     

  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    Originally posted by daeandor


    As much as I would like to see some accountability to online anonymous blogs, posts, etc, this is also one of the less intelligent thoughts which result in legislative erosion of our privacy.
     
    I'd love to know if some of the posters on this forum would be so rash if we all knew who they were and where they lived.  I'm just brainstorming, but think about it for a second.  With the nature of the internet, poster A offends poster B and poster B checks their profile for their name and city.  Looks them up and harasses them at home, or worse their family / children.  Poster B approaches poster A's family aggressively at their home and gets shot and killed (like we can here in TX).  OOOh, the lawsuits and counter-suits that ensue....  Just thinking about the lengths the wrongful death suit would go.
     
    its damn near impossible to make an IP address untraceable.

    Then making the mac address entirely invisible is too much work also.

    Axyl G the hacker who stole the Half life 2 source code got caught and he was damn good. Compared in order to every internet user.

    They have the tools to find anything and anyone on the internet, whether we like it or not the internet is like one giant god damn mess of a paper trail of everything you ever do.

     

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    98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Hmmm....

    I wonder if he knows that people outside of the US use the internet who are not subject to US laws. I know that sounds amazing and shocking  I'm sure but it is true.

    I wonder how he plans to deal with that tid bit.

     

    Its not the first time something like this has popped up and its an unenforcable measure.

    The people of Kentucky really need to look at what their representative is spending his time on. Time they are paying for when our country has enough "real" issues to keep a representative busy for a lifetime.

  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    Originally posted by Torak


    Hmmm....
    I wonder if he knows that people outside of the US use the internet who are not subject to US laws. I know that sounds amazing and shocking  I'm sure but it is true.
    I wonder how he plans to deal with that tid bit.
     
    Its not the first time something like this has popped up and its an unenforcable measure.
    The people of Kentucky really need to look at what their representative is spending his time on. Time they are paying for when our country has enough "real" issues to keep a representative busy for a lifetime.

    Thats an interesting question but i guess it would be like current US regulations it only can be applied to websites hosted in the united states.

    If another country has different laws regarding pornography, and the video is posted on a US website it has to abide by US laws regarding the age of the actor.

    Most "questionable" content is actually hosted offshore now to avoid US regulations.

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  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586

    Originally posted by Vampir


     
    Originally posted by daeandor


    As much as I would like to see some accountability to online anonymous blogs, posts, etc, this is also one of the less intelligent thoughts which result in legislative erosion of our privacy.
     
    I'd love to know if some of the posters on this forum would be so rash if we all knew who they were and where they lived.  I'm just brainstorming, but think about it for a second.  With the nature of the internet, poster A offends poster B and poster B checks their profile for their name and city.  Looks them up and harasses them at home, or worse their family / children.  Poster B approaches poster A's family aggressively at their home and gets shot and killed (like we can here in TX).  OOOh, the lawsuits and counter-suits that ensue....  Just thinking about the lengths the wrongful death suit would go.
     
    its damn near impossible to make an IP address untraceable.

     

    Then making the mac address entirely invisible is too much work also.

    Axyl G the hacker who stole the Half life 2 source code got caught and he was damn good. Compared in order to every internet user.

    They have the tools to find anything and anyone on the internet, whether we like it or not the internet is like one giant god damn mess of a paper trail of everything you ever do.

     

    Cool, find me.

    I've traced myself before and come up with a "footprint" between 400 and 50 miles of my actual location. Once, I traced my IP to some place in Maryland. Seriously, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

    Not quite sure why there's such a large variation of the traces, but I'm guessing that it has to do with the ISP and all the interconnected services its associated with. Some Domains don't trace any further into their own territory, so finding an actual street address can be problematic.

    But if you actually find my street address, email me and tell me how you did it. There are a few individuals I'd like to track down myself....

  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

     

    Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe


     
    Originally posted by Vampir


     
    Originally posted by daeandor


    As much as I would like to see some accountability to online anonymous blogs, posts, etc, this is also one of the less intelligent thoughts which result in legislative erosion of our privacy.
     
    I'd love to know if some of the posters on this forum would be so rash if we all knew who they were and where they lived.  I'm just brainstorming, but think about it for a second.  With the nature of the internet, poster A offends poster B and poster B checks their profile for their name and city.  Looks them up and harasses them at home, or worse their family / children.  Poster B approaches poster A's family aggressively at their home and gets shot and killed (like we can here in TX).  OOOh, the lawsuits and counter-suits that ensue....  Just thinking about the lengths the wrongful death suit would go.
     
    its damn near impossible to make an IP address untraceable.

     

    Then making the mac address entirely invisible is too much work also.

    Axyl G the hacker who stole the Half life 2 source code got caught and he was damn good. Compared in order to every internet user.

    They have the tools to find anything and anyone on the internet, whether we like it or not the internet is like one giant god damn mess of a paper trail of everything you ever do.

     

     

    Cool, find me.

    I've traced myself before and come up with a "footprint" between 400 and 50 miles of my actual location. Once, I traced my IP to some place in Maryland. Seriously, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

    Not quite sure why there's such a large variation of the traces, but I'm guessing that it has to do with the ISP and all the interconnected services its associated with. Some Domains don't trace any further into their own territory, so finding an actual street address can be problematic.

    But if you actually find my street address, email me and tell me how you did it. There are a few individuals I'd like to track down myself....

     

    depends on the tool you use.

    Some are better, some are worse.

    But the ones that the FBI and law enforcement in theory have axcess to as well as a large amount of private internet security companies can get your damn address, shoe size, and how many times you have had sex.

    They can also get the build of your computer, through mac ID's (just like a VIN number custom built prebuilt whatever).

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  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    Originally posted by Nasica


     
    Originally posted by Vampir


     
    Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe


     
    Originally posted by Vampir


     
    Originally posted by daeandor


    As much as I would like to see some accountability to online anonymous blogs, posts, etc, this is also one of the less intelligent thoughts which result in legislative erosion of our privacy.
     
    I'd love to know if some of the posters on this forum would be so rash if we all knew who they were and where they lived.  I'm just brainstorming, but think about it for a second.  With the nature of the internet, poster A offends poster B and poster B checks their profile for their name and city.  Looks them up and harasses them at home, or worse their family / children.  Poster B approaches poster A's family aggressively at their home and gets shot and killed (like we can here in TX).  OOOh, the lawsuits and counter-suits that ensue....  Just thinking about the lengths the wrongful death suit would go.
     
    its damn near impossible to make an IP address untraceable.

     

    Then making the mac address entirely invisible is too much work also.

    Axyl G the hacker who stole the Half life 2 source code got caught and he was damn good. Compared in order to every internet user.

    They have the tools to find anything and anyone on the internet, whether we like it or not the internet is like one giant god damn mess of a paper trail of everything you ever do.

     

     

    Cool, find me.

    I've traced myself before and come up with a "footprint" between 400 and 50 miles of my actual location. Once, I traced my IP to some place in Maryland. Seriously, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

    Not quite sure why there's such a large variation of the traces, but I'm guessing that it has to do with the ISP and all the interconnected services its associated with. Some Domains don't trace any further into their own territory, so finding an actual street address can be problematic.

    But if you actually find my street address, email me and tell me how you did it. There are a few individuals I'd like to track down myself....

     

    depends on the tool you use.

    Some are better, some are worse.

    But the ones that the FBI and law enforcement in theory have axcess to as well as a large amount of private internet security companies can get your damn address, shoe size, and how many times you have had sex.

    They can also get the build of your computer, through mac ID's (just like a VIN number custom built prebuilt whatever).

    I cant see a MAC giving anymore information than the place of manufacture for your NIC.

     

    But a real issue that is at hand, and one that has a lot more serious implication than some american lawmaker is the hijacking of youtubes AS number by Pakistan the other week.

    Thats got some REAL serious implications for BGP....

     


    every piece of hardware has an individual mac address.

    and if someone looks hard enough with extremely high end tools they can do that.

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  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    So, did Kentucky resolve the moon shine problem, and now they're moving foreward?

     

  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695

     

    Originally posted by olddaddy


    So, did Kentucky resolve the moon shine problem, and now they're moving foreward?
     

    I had to laugh IRL on that one...

     

     

    (oh, that smiley has nothing to do with the post, i just like it)

  • SkeeSkeeSkeeSkee Member UncommonPosts: 129

    the intensions are good IN THEORY.  Make those who make threats online or brag about criminal activites responsible for their actions.   However there is no way it would ever ever ever work.   That bill is complete failure and a waste of time and taxpayer money.

  • tedricktedrick Member Posts: 32

    I'm not really sure but this might shed some light on it.

     

     

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