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stryker134
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I have been sniffing around for a good mmo for along time...a few years in fact.
I am really into the economic aspects of gaming. Crafting , harvesting etc. I played swg for about 6 months after their launch and that system of harvesting and the advanced crafting really kept me occupied.
I am just wondering if anyone has any feedback for me as far as the crafting system and whatnot on eve. Everything I have read leads me to believe that i would enjoy it and it seems it is probably the most advanced mmo out their as far as the player driving the economics.
I have some time off work and i figured on putting off the chores that my wife has for me and trying out the 14 day trial lol.
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I've been playing for two months, and I haven't gotten deep into mining/inventing/manufacturing/trading, but I can give you some general newbie tips from what I've learned:
1. Spend at LEAST one evening reading the EvE forums and some newbie/player guides before you even start the trial. If you know you want to focus on a certain aspect of the game, you can make it a lot easier on yourself creating your character if you know what to do. In the long term, any character can do anything, but your attributes and starting skills from character creation do a *LOT* in shaping what you'll be good at in your early months.
http://www.battleclinic.com/
That's one good site, with a lot of guides. you can find more on the EvE forums (which are down as I type this during the Big Patch).
2. Be prepared to be very clueless for several weeks, and still n00bish for months. Watch rookie help chat and your newbie corp chat, and don't be ashamed to ask n00b questions, because everyone is overwhelmed in EvE at first.
3. When you do start, train Learning Skills while you learn the basics of the game. On your character sheet, go to your Skill page and enable "show all skills" under settings. This will show you every skill in the game, and provides you with a lot of information. In EvE, there is a LOT of information to process.
4. Knowing what you want to do determines what ship you will want and what equipment to put on it. This, combined with looking at the skills I talked about above, will get you looking at the market. Take several hours (or days) and just browse through the market, though it will seem huge and imposing at first. Right click items and read their descriptions, attributes, and fitting costs.
5. When you're buying and selling, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check market details on an item. Never sell for the highest buy order or buy from the lowest sell order without checking details unless you know an iterm's normal value very well. People will trap newbs who are unfamiliar with the system in this manner, making offers for a tiny percentage of normal value for those who just auto-sell.
6. Remember that scamming is LEGAL in EvE. If someone isn't breaking the EULA, they can lie, cheat, steal, and otherwise separate you from your ISK and your ship in any devious, evil way they can think of. Be VERY VERY cautious about trusting anyone.
That's enough for now... the main thing is to get all the information you can. Decisions matter and you can lose a lot of money and suffer a lot of frustration in EvE if you don't know what you're doing. It's a harsh world, as people say.
You could go and decorate the house or something..... because playing EVE is much worse than watching paint dry !
@ Summitus, thank you for that precise and concise analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of EVE versus interior decorating. Now, go away.
@ OP: Welcome to EVE!
For a crafting/economy interested player, there currently is no MMO better then EVE. Everything that matters, everything other players use, you can eventually build. From the simplest round of ammo to a battleship to a behemoth carrier or a dreadnought, everything is built, bought, and destroyed by players.
You have been given good advice on how to approach EVE in general: Data-mine it beforehand (since you have limited time on the trial), familiarize yourself with the concepts behind each mechanism that affects your preferred gameplay, even if you can't fully understand them before you try them yourself.
Be prepared for PVP. In EVE, everything contains at least the tiniest nugget of PVP, and the people you are undercutting on the market may be willing to voice their objection through high-energy projectiles. And of course, there's those who just prefer to have you wares without bothering with the necessity of payment. Sometimes, they are the same person. Trust is a valued commodity. You are not 100% safe even in 'safe' space. Do not AFK while in space.
Remember to have fun.
Spend some time looking for a good corp. Find one with playtimes, style and ideas that match yours, but remember that you aren't married to the corp, and you can leave. Sometimes this means repercussions, but so does everything else in EVE.
Never fly what you can't afford to lose. Remember that cargo and modules are never insured. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Be polite. Everyone else is flying battleships and capital ships, it pays to be friendly and unassuming. Most people are willing to lend you a hand or give advice, even if they just finished blowing you up, if you ask nicely.
Remember to have fun.
Try something new every once in a while; getting stuck in a rut is the fastest way to get bored with EVE. It's not a 'throw back a couple and relax'-type of game, it's more of a hobby. Set yourself goals, make plans on how to reach those goals, and you will find your game experience much more enjoyable.
EVE will not tell you what to do, you need to figure it out for yourself. What you need to do is what you want to do. Finding out how to do something is often half the fun.
Hope these help a little, and if you need a bit more direct advice/assistance, PM me your characters name on this forum and I will see what I can do.
Thanks for having a sense of humor
...... there's not many on this forum with one . ! 
OP, if you really want to get started in production, visit this website and it should give you a good idea what road to take.
www.eve-production.org/invention/index.php
and while you're at it, visit this site that I pulled this from and read some of the guides on other aspects of EVE. (the mission running guide is one of my favorites)
eve-survival.org/
Other than that, welcome to EVE. Its a challenging world out there, but if you take the time to master it (will take more than a 15 day trial btw) then I'm pretty sure you can find a good home here.
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Thanks for having a sense of humor
...... there's not many on this forum with one . ! 
but i bet the World of Warcraft forum is full of them .. now, kindly, follow Finwolven`s advice
I've watched too much Babylon 5 in the last week... I could hear myself say that with a centauri accent and Londoish disposition.
If you decide to stick with eve, you need to download two apps: evemon and EFT. Evemon is a skill planner, and I was lost before I found that bad boy. It will even show you how implants will speed up your training. EFT (eve fitting tool) is an app that lets you put modules onto various ships using your current skill set or all lv 5 skills to see what kind of a ship you can make. I use it to see if this module or that makes a better tank or if I can push out more DPS by swapping out a gun for some other damage improvement module etc. These two apps take a LOT of guesswork out of the overall game. IMO they should be built into the game.
Also, attribute points decide how fast you train skills. Before you settle into a character, look at your starting attributes. The four main attributes for skills are intelligence, memory, willpower, and perception. Intel and memory are primarily for academics like industry and science, while willpower and perception are more combat oriented. Try not to put any starting stats into charisma. Not many skills are charisma based.
Nothing sucks more than being 4 million skill points into the game and learning you could have had 5 more points of intelligence instead of that damn charisma. lol
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i have to agree and disagree with the above post. starting stats SHOULD be considered before starting. but nothing is worse that being 4 months into the game a wishing you hadnt used Charisma as a stat dump. plan your toon, then decide how to place your starting stats. wanna be a CEO.. charisma is needed, wanna be the guy in the commandship with all the leadership skills, gotta have charisma. wanna be the guy in the cap ship blasting everything that moves, well in that case you really dont need charisma. my point is, plan, plan,plan. and make the game what YOU want it to be.
All the above posts are great I can't add much only join an industrial corp ASAP, get out of the starter corp and into one that has people willing to help you be all you can be in EVE.
I'm back in EVE after a long break and whats made it for me is a good corp.
There are lots of great corps out there, but I know for certain that EVE university has an industrial corp that would be great for you.
I should be playing tomorrow as long as the patch is over and can hook you up maybe, in-game name : Ezykyal.
As with the others, WELCOME TO EVE!
If crafting is something you've enjoyed in other games, EVE definitely has a place for you! I can't really add much more than what's been said, but just to reitterate: Trust is a valued commodity, be cautious, but not paranoid. That said, most industrial corps are willing to let in noobs just for the sake of someone to help grind rocks, but until you've been in-game for a while, you might not have much luck getting into a good corp (it goes back to that trust thing...).
These forums seem to be pretty filled with people willing to help. The EVE forums are an invaluable resource, and posting there will get you help as well - just be ready for a little brow-bashing before getting your question answered. People will help, the only cost is a little humility and a good sense of humor. If you have any direct questions for me (Been playing since May, '06) feel free to contact me in-game. Character name is Bankotsu Li.
Thank you all for the excellent tips and advice.
I will look you all up hopefully in the next week .