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Building a Comp for Next Gen Gaming

Hello,

I was wondering if I could get some expert advice on a comp I want to build.  I am not a techy but I understand specs.  I just don't have enough knowledge to maximize my budget.  I'm looking to build the comp in June or July primarily for this and next gen games.   My budget is $3000 all in.  I want a 22" or 24" lcd monitor (ie Samsung syncmaster) and a sweet video card but a vid card that is worth it's price (not one just for bragging rights for a month).  Maybe I could get some direction on which way and which brands i should be using for my specs.  This is my first PC upgrade in 6 years.  I want to be able to max settings AoC :)  I'm sick of running games like EQ2 on best performance... :(

Other thoughts:

Quad core (not sure what speed.. maybe 2.4 ghz?)

4gig ram (don't know enough to give exact specs)

250 gig harddrive (this would be for gaming)

500 gig hard drive (for misc files)

good cooling system (i dont want a loud comp)

750 watt power supply

Windows Vista (ultimate maybe?)

Good mouse and keyboard

5.1 or 7.1 sounc card and moderate speakers

Good headset

DVD R/W

Thanks for your time!

Comments

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    Perhaps these will help......interesting read none the less.

    Building a Crysis PC..........

    PART 1

    PART 2

    PART 3

     

    ~Hairysun~

     

  • DrewgDrewg Member UncommonPosts: 97

    Don't buy a quadcore if all you're doing is gaming and such.

    Unless you're using 3d drawing software, engineering software, and enterprise software or using your computer as a server (one that's used by many people, i.e web hosting).

    No matter if the game has support for 4 cores, it's just a waste of money, go for a dual core cpu.

     

     

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

     

    Originally posted by Durthu


    Hello,
    I was wondering if I could get some expert advice on a comp I want to build.  I am not a techy but I understand specs.  I just don't have enough knowledge to maximize my budget.  I'm looking to build the comp in June or July primarily for this and next gen games.   My budget is $3000 all in.  I want a 22" or 24" lcd monitor (ie Samsung syncmaster) and a sweet video card but a vid card that is worth it's price (not one just for bragging rights for a month).  Maybe I could get some direction on which way and which brands i should be using for my specs.  This is my first PC upgrade in 6 years.  I want to be able to max settings AoC :)  I'm sick of running games like EQ2 on best performance... :(
    Other thoughts:  Here's mine
    Quad core (not sure what speed.. maybe 2.4 ghz?) Core2Duo E6750 @ 2.66ghz
    4gig ram (don't know enough to give exact specs) 8 Gigs Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
    250 gig harddrive (this would be for gaming) 150 Gig WD Raptor X Drive (10,000rpm) x 2 Raid0
    500 gig hard drive (for misc files) Use one for gaming, one for random stuff
    good cooling system (i dont want a loud comp) Cooler Master 830 Evolution Full Tower
    750 watt power supply 900W ABS Modular with Turbo Mode
    Windows Vista (ultimate maybe?) Vista Ultimate 64-bit
    Good mouse and keyboard Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard & Logitech MX518 Gaming Mouse
    5.1 or 7.1 sounc card and moderate speakers Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Edition
    Good headset Plantronics GameCom Pro
    DVD R/W Samsung DVD-RW at 20x
    Thanks for your time!

     

    You left out the most important part, a GPU.  You can't play video games without a substantial graphcis card.  I haven't purchased that part of my rig yet, that is because the card I want hasn't been released yet by Nvidia. 

     

    I'm waiting for the 9800GTS or 9800GTX.  It will be pretty top of the line and I shouldn't need an upgrade in the next 2-3 years.  If I do, I'll just buy a second one and throw them in SLI.  I can assure you that you'll have no compatibility problems as well.

     

    Plus, I have an Asus Striker Extreme gaming motherboard, it's pretty solid... but still costs quite a bit.  I hope this helped you.  By the way, this will cost you almost exactly $3000, maybe a little less.  That's also including a nice 24" monitor.

  • TDU13TDU13 Member Posts: 44

    i just bought a new comp from Vigor heres what i got

    3.0GHz Dual core

    780i diamond series mainboard (supports quad core and 3 way SLI)

    1100w tagan PSU

    2x 8800 GT xtreme edition

    4gb of Ram 800MHz (4x 1gb)

    320GB 7200 rpm hard drive

    w/ windows home premium 64bit

    3 year warranty

    just over $2,300

    its very quiet and i pulled it out of the box and booted right up. if you are looking for someone to build it for you check them out.

    22'' Samsung monitor on Newegg for 300. i noticed going inot the 24'' range is a big price jump.

    P.S. Stay away form Alienware err Dell

  • whozthisguywhozthisguy Member UncommonPosts: 186

    whats wrong with alienware?

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  • SuorySuory Member Posts: 90

    Alienware is way overpriced for their computers. I just finished building my computer by ordering the parts from Newegg. I spent about a thousand USD for something that Alienware wanted six thousand USD for. The posters here more or less talked me into building my own, and it was the best choice i could make. I got a lot more than I wanted for the fraction of cost verus buying one from say dell. Never again will I buy a pre-build computer from any company again.

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  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460

    look at my sig :) good rig...and if you want to spend more money you can get  a second 3870x2 and crossfire it :)

  • TDU13TDU13 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by whozthisguy


    whats wrong with alienware?

    Dell owns Alienware. they used to be really good. check resellerratings.com

  • TDU13TDU13 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Suory


    Alienware is way overpriced for their computers. I just finished building my computer by ordering the parts from Newegg. I spent about a thousand USD for something that Alienware wanted six thousand USD for. The posters here more or less talked me into building my own, and it was the best choice i could make. I got a lot more than I wanted for the fraction of cost verus buying one from say dell. Never again will I buy a pre-build computer from any company again.

    if you have the know how to build your own comp, more power to you. its deff way cheaper. i've on;y been into it for a little while so i didn't trust myself to build a high end comp. although i hear its just plug n play now, and if you got an internet connection the drivers install themselves, i guess ill try my hand at my next comp

  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460
    Originally posted by TDU13

    Originally posted by Suory


    Alienware is way overpriced for their computers. I just finished building my computer by ordering the parts from Newegg. I spent about a thousand USD for something that Alienware wanted six thousand USD for. The posters here more or less talked me into building my own, and it was the best choice i could make. I got a lot more than I wanted for the fraction of cost verus buying one from say dell. Never again will I buy a pre-build computer from any company again.

    if you have the know how to build your own comp, more power to you. its deff way cheaper. i've on;y been into it for a little while so i didn't trust myself to build a high end comp. although i hear its just plug n play now, and if you got an internet connection the drivers install themselves, i guess ill try my hand at my next comp

    dude...building a rig is easy...people just overcomplicate it..its really not that hard

  • SuorySuory Member Posts: 90

    Well if a complete noob like me can do it, I think anyone can lo. Really, I think the most important things are buying good quality products like the cpu, mother board etc.. There is a great website that really helped me out.

    www.mysuperpc.com

     

    Some of the stuff is out of date, but it has a great introduction into building one. I hope this helps out some.

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Aye, building your own PC is easier than it looks. There are a ton of great sites out there that will have simple guides to help you along. And in the long run, building your own is cheaper than buying a prebuilt system.

    Only thing you have to remember is take your time, and dont be affraid.

    The only bad thing is once you figure out how to build them and feel comfortable with it, you will most likely become addicted to it... and soon you will be building overly pimped out rigs with more power than all of NASA's systems, your family and loved ones will start to worry, sometimes these 'intervention' things might happen...

    I'm a PC upgrading addict... and I am proud of it!

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • TibbzTibbz Member UncommonPosts: 613

    Gotta love newegg if your are building your own.. if you want a beast check this out, the best price for the specs out there

     

    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_SLI_3X/

     

    For bang/buck go AMD/ATI (Quiet all AMD is not THAT much worse than Intel)

    For Badda-Boom go (Core2 Extreme/Nvidia)

     

    FOR RAM IT IS LATENCY LATENCY LATENCY.  2 gigs high latency ram is better the 4 gigs "valueSelect"

    HD Raided 10ks are beautiful hehe

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  • DurthuDurthu Member Posts: 29

    Thanks very much.  This info has really helped me out.  I'll let you guys know what I decide to do :)

     

    Cheers!

     

    Durth

  • CreasianCreasian Member UncommonPosts: 112

    I recently build a e8400 @ 3.8Ghz, XMS2 DDR2-800 @ 425mhz, 8800GT @ 700/1756/1950, and just running some WD SE16 HDD's. 

    I am ready for AoC.  Was one of the thoughts going into the build.  These western mmorpgs just love eating up everything a cpu can throw at them. 

    If you run vista, then you WANT 4gigs of ram.  XP 2gigs is enough.  Not letting background apps get away from you is key to both running well.

    MMORPGS are cpu eating monsters.  You want a high clock.  You really cant go wrong with a Wolfdale or Yorkfield on the intel side.  Both 45nm processor lines will make you happy in gaming.

    Get the video card for your resolutions.  A 8800GT is good for 1600x1200 reolutions and under.  Going above that and you might run into some loss in performance.  A 8800GTS 512 is also a good buy.  A ati 3870X2 or 8800GTX are both awsome high end cards. 

     

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Originally posted by Durthu


    Hello,
    I was wondering if I could get some expert advice on a comp I want to build.  I am not a techy but I understand specs.  I just don't have enough knowledge to maximize my budget.  I'm looking to build the comp in June or July primarily for this and next gen games.   My budget is $3000 all in.  I want a 22" or 24" lcd monitor (ie Samsung syncmaster) and a sweet video card but a vid card that is worth it's price (not one just for bragging rights for a month).  Maybe I could get some direction on which way and which brands i should be using for my specs.  This is my first PC upgrade in 6 years.  I want to be able to max settings AoC :)  I'm sick of running games like EQ2 on best performance... :(
    Other thoughts:
    Quad core (not sure what speed.. maybe 2.4 ghz?)
    4gig ram (don't know enough to give exact specs)
    250 gig harddrive (this would be for gaming)
    500 gig hard drive (for misc files)
    good cooling system (i dont want a loud comp)
    750 watt power supply
    Windows Vista (ultimate maybe?)
    Good mouse and keyboard
    5.1 or 7.1 sounc card and moderate speakers
    Good headset
    DVD R/W
    Thanks for your time!
    There isn't a single game out there that supports a maxxed out rig.There is not one good driver by ATI or nvidia for anything dx10.As a matter of fact i am using a very old driver,as there SO CALLED windows certified drivers were junk and made my FFXI near unplayable.All your gonna do is spend a ton of money to get VERY little performance.Peeps are using tons of ram and HD's are cached a ton ,because graphic cards are not doing there job.

    Games and there counterpart tech,are stuck on XP mode and have made very little strides.Games are not going to advance yet because most DEV's admit designing a game for both vista dx10 and xp is like making two totally different games,so not gonna happen.You won't need a great rig until they start designing games strictly for vista and dx 10,until then your dollars spent will reap marginal rewards.

    My last 3 upgrades are a testement to that.I still use my PC from 6 years ago as much as i use my modern vista rig.You can see faster loading and stuff but realistically the advancements are slow.IMO the best investment i made was on a top notch monitor.The difference of the new monitor on the exact same machine was staggering,makes me wonder how i actually enjoyed my old monitor at all.

    I would just wait it out at least another year unless your present machine is super junk.If you have to buy something better,then go for a bargain XP machine with tthose 7900 vid cards.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    Don't build your rig for "next gen" gaming.  Funcom has wayyyyyy to many issues they are dealing with for AoC to make it by release to even begin to deal with all the different system specs people play with.  It doesn't matter if you are DX9 or DX10, AoC is a graphics hog.  WAR is still in the dark and not talking.

    The best thing to do is follow games like SGW or later projects for true "next gen" games.  Remember, a great game that plays well with an older graphics engine will give you 10x the enjoyment than a game with top of the line graphics and an untested combat system.  Sure, AoC is promising, but I for one refuse to pay Funcom a dime based on "future potential".

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • DurthuDurthu Member Posts: 29

    I think I will take the advice of people building a rig to run Crysis as this game seems to be the hog of all hogs. 

  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460

    have you deciden on what graphics card you wan..i would advise you to get the 3870x2...can run crysis mostly maxed out at 30fps+

  • whozthisguywhozthisguy Member UncommonPosts: 186

    crysis at 30+FPS and ppl r happy? man..i grew up with quake1 and 2 and i wasn't happy with anything less than 80FPS. 120 was perfect. how have things changed so much? ya LCD monitors and their 60htz i guess..but still.

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  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460
    Originally posted by whozthisguy


    crysis at 30+FPS and ppl r happy? man..i grew up with quake1 and 2 and i wasn't happy with anything less than 80FPS. 120 was perfect. how have things changed so much? ya LCD monitors and their 60htz i guess..but still.

    crysis is the most high end game out on the market out ...its a couple years to early hehe :)

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    Originally posted by Durthu


    I think I will take the advice of people building a rig to run Crysis as this game seems to be the hog of all hogs. 
       If you plan on following the recommendations of the guys at "Toms Hardware" this might be of interest to you.

    www.tigerdirect.com

      The board is actually a step up from the one in the article.  780i, 3-way SLI.....insane.  Packaged with a Q6700 for $499 is a just plain awesome deal.  It is a mailing list special so I'm not sure if anyone can order it.  Regardless, worth a shot if your buying in the real near future.

    ~Hairysun~

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