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Souldrainer
Member Posts: 1,857
in Tabula Rasa
It's fun to have this kind of combat system in a game. You can run and gun and just have a good time. I can understand some critiques, but the game is brand new. Auction houses and mail are on the way, and the game seems to just be getting started.
What are people so whiney about? Sure, the game is new. Sure, the game is unpolished. It's called a launch, people. MMOs are not known for smooth ones. This game is better IMO than COX or Hellgate London by a huge margin. It's action packed!
P.S. In before an 11 year old brat screams epic fail.
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Pretty, but in the end you'll be disappointed.
I just got this game as well and absolutely love it so far. I definitely can see some major and minor issues, but the are quickly over looked by so much done right and so much going for this game. Combat, interface, questing/adventuring, intensity of play, and some of the graphics are top notch, again... so far. On top of that, the setting and way you play it (future and a bit more action oriented) seems fresh compared to most mmo's.
I hate to hear all of the complaints about depth, lack of end game, bored at 30+. I am sure some of this must be true, but I am enjoying the ride so far and feel like I have barely started. Hopefully I will at least get my moneys worth in the long run. I have certainly enjoyed the experience so far.
So assuming this game really does take a turn for the worse the more you play. What went wrong and more importantly do you feel it can be fixed with some dev loving for later content additions/changes?
If you have a little bit of money to burn and have been on the fence about this game or looking to try a new/different type of mmo, I would recommend this game so far.
Enjoy
btw: I did try beta back in October and did not care for the game at all then. I couldn't play it for more than 3 hours before quiting.
Pretty, but in the end you'll be disappointed.
i just woke my whole house laughing I'm pretty surethanx.
Same here.. I didn't care for the game in beta... but I have been playing a couple of weeks now and I am really enjoying it.
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its almost 5 months past launch - which means more and more people are reaching the high levels and having nothing to do. Thats the main thing people who kept playing are complaining about.
So its like playing a single player game - you spend your 40 - 100 hours playing. When you reach the end you put it on the shelf and dont go back to it. Sometimes you stop before reaching the end. I did with Oblivion and Fable. The more hours you put in per week, the sooner you reach that point.
Auction house is in already by the way - its that Military Surplus you see in some bases (like twin pillars in wilderness).
I am currently lvl 40 after 5 months. Still having fun.
I think some people need to spend more hours playing life, and less hours escaping from it
You play too slow, stop doing things the way developers intended, dammit!
Who the hell made this game "life" anyways? I ought to give the developers a piece of my mind... everyday it's the same grind and there's no end-game content! What a cruel joke, all that work and you still have to push up daisies postmortem.
I've been playing this game for the last week and I mustsay it's very refreshing after getting bored with WoW and Lotro.
I love the setting and the action (only up to level 11 so far) and you have to love the skirmishes adn battles to take up bases!
It really gives you a sense of fighting for something (fighting the Bane).
Loving it
LOL, So true! I have been playing LOTRO for a year now (including beta). Some folks quit that after 60 days because the rushed to 50 and got bored. The rest of us actually played the content and enjoyed our time to 50.
It just amazes me what some people want out of games these days, but everyone has their own tastes I guess.
TR just seems SOOOO refreshing in many ways. Some aspects of the game are even a step beyond the competition. I just am having a hard time understanding why this game doesn't have a bigger following yet. If the game is this fun and good in early levels then I suppose all they need is time to "fix" the later levels to bring them up to par, IF that is what is wrong.
Again, I played beta about 6 months ago and didn't like the game at all. Right now after 20+ hours of playing, I would give this game a 8.9/10. I am sure this will diminish over time. I have played too many mmo's to list, but so far this game is in my top 10.
Haha!
LOL, So true! I have been playing LOTRO for a year now (including beta). Some folks quit that after 60 days because the rushed to 50 and got bored. The rest of us actually played the content and enjoyed our time to 50.
It just amazes me what some people want out of games these days, but everyone has their own tastes I guess.
TR just seems SOOOO refreshing in many ways. Some aspects of the game are even a step beyond the competition. I just am having a hard time understanding why this game doesn't have a bigger following yet. If the game is this fun and good in early levels then I suppose all they need is time to "fix" the later levels to bring them up to par, IF that is what is wrong.
Again, I played beta about 6 months ago and didn't like the game at all. Right now after 20+ hours of playing, I would give this game a 8.9/10. I am sure this will diminish over time. I have played too many mmo's to list, but so far this game is in my top 10.
Perhaps the current TR following is more casual than your typical MMOG players. But really, can you please tell me what makes this game a step above the others? I'm at a loss, it just seemed like the same old shit that everybody else is trying to sell for the 2 months I played it.
In all honesty, I really doubt you've played enough MMOGs to say you can't list them all. Just playing EQ2, WoW, AO, and SWG have given me great insight into what a miserable excuse for an "innovative game" Terrible Rasa really is. It copies everyone else and brings only newly broken toys to the table.
You may not understand why people hate this game and don't flock to it, but I'm equally confounded as to why people insist to play it.
LOL, So true! I have been playing LOTRO for a year now (including beta). Some folks quit that after 60 days because the rushed to 50 and got bored. The rest of us actually played the content and enjoyed our time to 50.
It just amazes me what some people want out of games these days, but everyone has their own tastes I guess.
TR just seems SOOOO refreshing in many ways. Some aspects of the game are even a step beyond the competition. I just am having a hard time understanding why this game doesn't have a bigger following yet. If the game is this fun and good in early levels then I suppose all they need is time to "fix" the later levels to bring them up to par, IF that is what is wrong.
Again, I played beta about 6 months ago and didn't like the game at all. Right now after 20+ hours of playing, I would give this game a 8.9/10. I am sure this will diminish over time. I have played too many mmo's to list, but so far this game is in my top 10.
Perhaps the current TR following is more casual than your typical MMOG players. But really, can you please tell me what makes this game a step above the others? I'm at a loss, it just seemed like the same old shit that everybody else is trying to sell for the 2 months I played it.
In all honesty, I really doubt you've played enough MMOGs to say you can't list them all. Just playing EQ2, WoW, AO, and SWG have given me great insight into what a miserable excuse for an "innovative game" Terrible Rasa really is. It copies everyone else and brings only newly broken toys to the table.
You may not understand why people hate this game and don't flock to it, but I'm equally confounded as to why people insist to play it.
I don't understand how you could play all those games and not see clear differences between all of them, and TR. I have high level toons in SWG, EQ2, LOTRO, Vanguard, DAoC, Guild Wars, AO and dabbled in at least 10 more games that didn't hold my interest past the first month. Even with the games I really enjoyed, I can see that they all share certain gameplay features and philosophies that aren't found in TR.
First is the obviously different combat systems. All those other games have you standing around the mob, staring at your action bar and watching your toon carry out your commands. The combat itself is usually not very fun. It is something that has to be endured in order to receive a reward. It can often take 20 or 30 blows with a stout sword to bring down a boar or even a snake. The actual process is generally described in the same tone as actual work... something that we universally refer to as grinding if you have to do it for any substantial length of time. 1,2,3,1,2,3,9,1,2,3,zzz,zzz....
Combat in TR is fast and fluid. My eyes are up on the action rather than down at my action bar. I can dispense of the average even level MOB in a matter of seconds, 4 or 5 shots on average. Since the mobs are vulnerable and immune to different damage types, I have to stay on toes about having the right weapon for the situation. It is really a different pace than any other MMO I have played, and while it isn't perfect.. it's a step in the right direction. I think they do a great job of simulating the action feel of first a first person shooter and adding depth and persistence to it.
Everything other difference about the game for me comes from the simple fact that the combat is actually fun, instead of an irritating, repetitive grind. Even something as inane as a fed-ex quest, or killing X of Y is a lot less bothersome when the actual act of doing it is enjoyable... the quest reward and XP gained are icing on the cake.
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Some shit he said.
Some shit I said.
Some more shit he said.Name anything you love to do, anything. Be it watching your favorite movie, having hardcore sex, or dancing on a table surrounded by walruses while drinking a keg of Mountain Dew.
Now go do that thing at least once or twice a day for a month.
You'll get bored of it, and it will probably not be your favorite thing to do anymore.
In Terrible Rasa, with the combat being the *only* reason why you play it, you will get sick of it because it never changes. The combat in TR is grinding, and you must be very dense for not realizing it.
Yes, I was, in a way, comparing 'Pablum Rasa' to those other games, and I can use them to explain why it is such a miserable game. It's simple, really: it does nothing different than all the other games and does all the same stuff very poorly.
Terrible Rasa's combat is very much the same as every other MMORPG's combat with only a few minor alterations:
That's all that is different, and you can get the same effect from spamming one move in any other game. It's brainless, so I can understand why you enjoy it so much. Har har, pardon that.
TR is the crack-addict's MMORPG, as all you do is click one action until the mob is dead. Other MMORPGs require a bit of strategy in combat, where you have to learn to use special moves at the right times and learn to combo them together for better effects. Not so in TR, it's just hack n slash.
Anyway.
I'm surprised that you're trying to bullshit with that "I have high-level toons in everything" line. You're either a hopeless shut-in, very dense and are incapable of becomming jaded, or simply lying.
I'll assume you're lying unless you have some bit of proof for all 17 of those games you claim you've played. Especially Vanguard, since nobody in their right mind plays that heap of trash.
I don't agree that anything you do for a substantial amount of time becomes a grind. I know a lot of people play first person shooters, despite their lack of depth.. and seem to enjoy them, sometimes playing the same game for years. I have to say, if you're getting tired of having sex, you might not be doing it right.
I understand that TR isn't actually a First Person Shooter... As I said in the previous post, I think it does a good job of simulating the pace and action of a first person shooter. I understand the technical limitations involved in having real FPS mechanics on maps this size, packed with hundreds of mobs fighting each other... all in all, I feel like the compromise between depth and fun to the gameplay has been met fairly well. I agree that the game could improve.. I just don't think it's nearly as bad as you claim it is.. and it certainly isn't as simple as blindly clicking the left mouse button.. I'll have to again conjecture that you might not be doing it right.
Beyond that, I don't see why you feel the need to be rude, and jump so quickly to personal attacks. I only mentioned which games i had played because you made it an issue in the post I quoted. You discounted the previous posters opinions based on your estimate of his gaming experience... which I doubt is accurate to begin with.
If you have any doubts as to which games I have played.. search my posts here, or search my posts at the forums for the games I mentioned, or head over to my own forums at www.DeathDealerMercenaries.com and feel free to ask away. I'll admit that you'll get a biased audience over there, as it's a forum for a gaming team I founded eight years ago. I can say that a lot of my buddies like to mess me with about how quickly I get bored with games and move on to something else when I am at or near max level, a few games i only made it about 50% of the way through the levels b4 I couldn't stand them any more... occasionally leaving behind a group of people I had recently talked in to playing it with me.
A few of the games I have played but didn't feel were worth mentioning are Eve, Ryzom, RF-online, Lineage2, DDO, Hellgate, Shadowbane, Planetside, CoH and CoV. A few of those were just a short trial, but most I just bought because they were about the price of one months sub.
The fact is, in most of these games, you can get to max level within one or two months. I have been looking for an SWG replacement since the NGE and have been through just about all of the available options. I have never played WoW, or the first EQ or UO.. none of that old stuff. I was playing mechwarrior pretty exclusively for years, until they quit making it. I'm not really sure why it's hard for you to believe I played all those games.. half the people here have 10 or 12 listed in their sig lines.
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I see the problem - you havent mastered the art of holding down the left mouse button so your toon auto-fires. You are still clicking.
Strategy is like any other mmorpg in choosing which target to take out first. In TR you also get to use cover. That makes the difference between dying and not dying plenty of the time.
Things TR does right
- Easy to solo
- Less grind than other games. Travel is quick, portable waypoints, quests are quick, instances are relatively quick
- combat is fast paced
Its a great casual action game.
Since the only other mmorpg I have played is Guild Wars I cant comment on what features its missing other than:
- decent LFG tool
- crafting thats useful
I see the problem - you havent mastered the art of holding down the left mouse button so your toon auto-fires. You are still clicking.
Strategy is like any other mmorpg in choosing which target to take out first. In TR you also get to use cover. That makes the difference between dying and not dying plenty of the time.
Things TR does right
- Easy to solo
- Less grind than other games. Travel is quick, portable waypoints, quests are quick, instances are relatively quick
- combat is fast paced
Its a great casual action game.
Since the only other mmorpg I have played is Guild Wars I cant comment on what features its missing other than:
- decent LFG tool
- crafting thats useful
I did try to make use the the 'auto-fire' you mentioned, but (here comes a legitimate excuse!) server lag seemed to prevent it from working most of the time and wasn't reliable (with single-shot weapons like pistols, shotguns, and rifles). Also, switching weapons (which is like prepping a different special ability in other games) would very often glitch and cause my character to spaz between them, making combat rather frustrating.
The auto-fire I know and love works by just pressing a button once to toggle it on or off instead of having to cramp your fingers. This frees your cursor so you can use the keyboard and mouse to select different abilities on your toolbar, giving more depth and strategy to combat.
As for your points about TR:
I'm not sure, but it seems that the word "casual" has the meaning "watered down" attached to it now.
Personally, when I played, I didn't have a problem finding a group for anything. Just scream out in the LFG channel and somebody responds and joins up; quite nice, that. However, I had to get a group for just about everything in order to complete missions at the right levels in order to avoid the infamous "5-level-grind" you get at 40+ when you don't do all the missions at the correct level (or skip even one or two).
There's no adventure in TR, just a shopping list you have to fill out in the correct order or you're punished with a time sink.
Crafting is a given flaw. It's sad that they even call it that, really.
The thing about first-person shooters and the like is that there's a PvP element and the rules constrain players differently than in an RPG. Each time you go online and fight some clanners, it's a different experience. It's why i still play the Battlefield games even though they haven't changed in a long while.
Anything can be a grind if you repeat one activity in only one or two ways. Like banging the same chick in the same position once or twice a day could get pretty mundane after a month (don't know anybody who does that, but it's an example from an abstract world). That's why there's pr0n!
TR is a click-fest. You just left-click (whether you hold it down or not) until whatever you're looking at is dead. The only strategy consists of switching weapons to nuke them in a different manner or switching to a repair device to avoid dieing. Things like traps, useful debuffing effects, and useful character buffs are missing from the ability roster in TR. You get some things like that later (like net guns that don't work and some bio-engineer stuff, if you follow those classes), but they're quite useless compared to just whipping out a rifle or shotgun and just left-clicking continually.
I made it to level 38-ish almost 39 before I quit. That was possibly the most boring time I've ever had in any game.
Aside from that...
Text really sucks for conveying attitude. It's like I have to add a disclaimer at the end of all my posts saying "Don't take the shit I say personally, I say it with sarcasm to provoke arguments for fun". I think I might do that now... but really, I thought that having "Mini driver" in my sig would have made it obvious enough.
As for that massive list of games, I can understand playing trials of all of them, but I assumed you meant you bought the game boxes and had an active sub for at least a month. In the case of trials and subs combined, I've played every game on that list to your left (except Phantasy Star, I'm not fond of those games).
And why wasn't EVE worth mentioning? That's like the holy grail of MMORPGs... with some tarnish and a dent in the side, but still a holy grail nonetheless.
I thought it was awesome for about 2/3 hours......... and then was thinking about what I could have spent the 30 quid on as it was uninstalling .
Enjoy the game and screw the haters. Most MMOG forums on this site have their collection of haters for each and every MMOG. They don't play the MMOG, they don't plan on playing the MMOG, they just sit in the wings and wait for a person to show up with some positive experiences and they attempt the knock the sh1t out of every thing that person says. For a game they claim to hate so much they sure spend a lot of time on the game's forum for nothing more then proving how intelligent THEY are for not playing the game, and how much of an idiot you are for still playing it.
They attempt to make their candles brighter by blowing out yours.
I'm having a blast with TR as well and the new patch that just hit live has some neat new features.
Enjoy TR!
Hope your having a good day - your reply got you reported.
Welcome to the internet. Sarcasm does not come across in posts. So people are going to take you at face value of what you type.
As for why I am posting rather than playing - not allowed to play games at work. I am allowed to post in my lunch time.
The thing about first-person shooters and the like is that there's a PvP element and the rules constrain players differently than in an RPG. Each time you go online and fight some clanners, it's a different experience. It's why i still play the Battlefield games even though they haven't changed in a long while.
Anything can be a grind if you repeat one activity in only one or two ways. Like banging the same chick in the same position once or twice a day could get pretty mundane after a month (don't know anybody who does that, but it's an example from an abstract world). That's why there's pr0n!
TR is a click-fest. You just left-click (whether you hold it down or not) until whatever you're looking at is dead. The only strategy consists of switching weapons to nuke them in a different manner or switching to a repair device to avoid dieing. Things like traps, useful debuffing effects, and useful character buffs are missing from the ability roster in TR. You get some things like that later (like net guns that don't work and some bio-engineer stuff, if you follow those classes), but they're quite useless compared to just whipping out a rifle or shotgun and just left-clicking continually.
I made it to level 38-ish almost 39 before I quit. That was possibly the most boring time I've ever had in any game.
Aside from that...
Text really sucks for conveying attitude. It's like I have to add a disclaimer at the end of all my posts saying "Don't take the shit I say personally, I say it with sarcasm to provoke arguments for fun". I think I might do that now... but really, I thought that having "Mini driver" in my sig would have made it obvious enough.
As for that massive list of games, I can understand playing trials of all of them, but I assumed you meant you bought the game boxes and had an active sub for at least a month. In the case of trials and subs combined, I've played every game on that list to your left (except Phantasy Star, I'm not fond of those games).
And why wasn't EVE worth mentioning? That's like the holy grail of MMORPGs... with some tarnish and a dent in the side, but still a holy grail nonetheless.
The games I said weren't worth mentioning are the ones I only played a trial of, or bought an only played a month. All the other games I mentioned by name in my first post are all games that I bought retail boxes for and played for a couple of months at least... Some to top level and other just in to the steep part of the level curve. I never playes Phantasy Star either... guild wars and lineage are about as far towards the Eastern style Anime looking graphics as I like to go. I also don't like to mess with any game that deviates from a regular monthly payement plan. I don't trust games with an item store payment set-up.. and it's been my experience that with "free" games, you get what you pay for.
I wasn't at all a fan of EVE, that is one of those games where I can't understand why it appeals to anyone. I see a lot of people posting that they enjoy it.. but for me it just seemed like way too much sitting doing nothing. That game literally makes you sit and watch it warp across space for 10 minutes at a time... then when you get to the enemy location you auto-circle and auto attack until the fight is over.... I'm sure there is more to the game than that, but I didn't enjoy the core mechanics enough to play it and find out. It was just a little too hands off for me.
Maybe it's just a difference in class choice.. but as a medic in TR, I do have some useful buffs, debuffs and heals... I know my soldier has some pretty cool skills too. I don't know if it's through changes since you played the game, or just different tastes, but it just doesn't feel like mouse button spamming to me.
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Hey, we get the picture. You don't like TR and, for some odd reason, it makes you bitter.
Many are enjoying the game right now. Different strokes for different folks, deal with it.
Frankly your "arguments" were amusing at first with all the normal run of the mill negatives you could say about any video game or mmorpg.
Have FUN in whatever game you are playing. Whatever that game might be, you might want to play it some more and loosen up your belt and RELAX a little more. Life is short road.
Enjoy!