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This game failed in only 5 monthes from launching?
RoseOfAion
Member Posts: 4
in Tabula Rasa
In these days, it looks that this game going to deep fail.
Really does this game going wrong?
Does the servers empty or have a few users these days?
How many people play this game on same time?
Anybody inform me, then I thank you very much.
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Not at all. I have many times seen all of the servers with medium population.
And by no means is the game failing. It is a great Sci-fi game with many flaws, yes, but the good far outweigh the bad (most of which is actively being worked on)
After my clan kicked me out for some stupid reasons I will not share, I thought I'd find a new clan. Then i realized, why? I'm just wasting money on rooftop jumping (having leveled 2 toons to 50). So with about 30 seconds of thought I cancelled and am relieved to not pay anymore.
In reality they either decreased server capacity, or increased their size for what they believe to be medium. In all actuallity, the population is rapidly declining (from personal experience, and many, MANY, other players experiences).After my clan kicked me out for some stupid reasons I will not share, I thought I'd find a new clan. Then i realized, why? I'm just wasting money on rooftop jumping (having leveled 2 toons to 50). So with about 30 seconds of thought I cancelled and am relieved to not pay anymore.
YAY to unfounded, hate-filled, conspiracy theories!
The fact is, you have no actual basis to back up your claim that NCSoft has been altering the server capacities. Therefore, you are spouting conspiracy theories. SWG Vets tried to use the same argument for NGE's server populations, and it was still as baseless as your argument. Also, in the other posts that you posted on the 23rd, it seems you have a mighty big chip on your shoulder towards NCSoft. You really need to release the hate. And, based on your attitude about the game, is probably the reason why you were kicked from your clan. I'd say kudos to them.
I'll give you that TR does have flaws. I left after my free month not because it was "ultimate fail" as some of the bashers claim it to be. No, I left because it wasn't what I wanted and I was also burnt out on MMORPG's at the time. However, you didn't see me here bashing this game with arguments that have no basis. Nope... just like the SWG vets, you really need to let go of your hate.
After my clan kicked me out for some stupid reasons I will not share, I thought I'd find a new clan. Then i realized, why? I'm just wasting money on rooftop jumping (having leveled 2 toons to 50). So with about 30 seconds of thought I cancelled and am relieved to not pay anymore.
YAY to unfounded, hate-filled, conspiracy theories!
The fact is, you have no actual basis to back up your claim that NCSoft has been altering the server capacities. Therefore, you are spouting conspiracy theories. SWG Vets tried to use the same argument for NGE's server populations, and it was still as baseless as your argument. Also, in the other posts that you posted on the 23rd, it seems you have a mighty big chip on your shoulder towards NCSoft. You really need to release the hate. And, based on your attitude about the game, is probably the reason why you were kicked from your clan. I'd say kudos to them.
I'll give you that TR does have flaws. I left after my free month not because it was "ultimate fail" as some of the bashers claim it to be. No, I left because it wasn't what I wanted and I was also burnt out on MMORPG's at the time. However, you didn't see me here bashing this game with arguments that have no basis. Nope... just like the SWG vets, you really need to let go of your hate.
I agree that this player does have a chip on his shoulder, but please don't ever refrence SWG with TR. SWG lost so many players after NGE, and was threaten with a class action law suit for the trials of obi-wan (because of the NGE) that they offered refunds. Heck even SOE admitted themselves it was a bad mistake releasing the NGE, and I could pull so much information to support the biggest blundder in MMO history to prove it. Simply put TR will be fine, and I agree is on the right track. SWG is a dead game only because SOE dug their own grave in which to burry themselves.
This games going down. Unless the number of subs is steadily increasing (lol), then it's done for. I played it, and was not satisfied. The game was way overhyped, which is funny because I don't remember people being extremely excited for this title anyways. Any game that brings the traditional MMO standpoint as their bread and butter is going to fail. WoW set the standard, and TR doesn't bring enough (if any) new ideas to the table to compete. That's the sad truth.
What's that, you like sci fi? Try Eve. Don't like ships? Anarchy Online stomps the living snot out of TR in terms of customization, content, end game content, PvP (arena and world PvP), and it's free now. Please don't waste you're money on TR. It's DEFINATELY not worth the sub fee, and to most people, not worth the price up front.
I have been playing since beta , And i have seen many more poeple running around the maps then ever before, So i am not only going by the server load rating . Also the number of people running around. Never had a people finding people to team with and my Clan has 50+ very active people playing. So I dont care what all these TR bashing people say there are MORE people playing now then ever . It is a fun game not perfect by any means , BUT fun
This game does not emulate the existing MMORPG formula. Anyone who has played, and either liked it or hated it has to admit that it is different. It's fast and fun to play. All the tedium from other games is stripped away and replaced with fast, shooter style action. I personally think this game is way better than dusty old AO.... which actually is just luike evbery other MMO.
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This game just keeps getting better, IMO.
I feel no hate towards NCSoft, rather towards Destination Games for not having a clear vision of the game and stamping Garriotts name all over the place. In fact, Garriott is barely working on TR anymore; he's in Russia training for space. I've played CoH way back and Guild Wars; both were fantastic, just got boring after a year or so.
It's just everything TR has to offer has been done better in some form or another in a different game. Like the other post; like big sci-fi battles? Planetside (although its dying). Like ships? EVE or wait for Star Trek Online. Sci-fi theme in general? Anarchy Online, and yet again, wait for another sci-fi game.
I would rather be playing now then waitng for what could be. If somthing better comes along then i will start playing that . But till then I am having fun play TR. I have yet to see agame with the combat style of TR i will never be able to go back to clicking hotkeys 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 over and over again. I hope all MMO's take note.
I'm not sure exactly why the fans of the game are refuting its sharp decline in subs and complete lack of new meat. I mean...the company, AND its investors, have already been very open about how rotten this apple is financially.
The killing blow for this game, I'm very sure, is their choice to slow combat killing down. Taking an FPS model and slowing it to EQ standards has no hope of being something for even close to the numbers they need to see good returns. Bad management, bad PR, failure to deliver on expectations even closely....the list is long for this one. Great ideal, would have been nice to see a break in the mold. Too much upfront investment wasted on "pretty" and "concept" and not enough in gameplay testing and content.
It also doesn't help that they pretty much ignored everything the players said they enjoyed about it.
Because all of this post is pretty much untrue, there are more people play now then ever before. based on server load ratings and based on just see tons of more people running around. Yes the upfront cost of this game was crazy , going to take time to cover those costs .The combat system is still the best out there by far of any MMO i have seen . the reason they slowed the combat down ot made it tougher was people said it was to easy. I am glad the make the game tougher. So they do listem to the gamers in the game . INfact the GM's and DEVs come in game chat and ask what people think. They have added lots of stuff based on player feedback.
The combat doesn't feel slow to me. Most mobs near my level take a scant few seconds to kil... three or four shots, and I am a medic. When I am grouped, we roll through large groups of mobs at a really fast pace. I dunno where you read that it was EQ pace, but it is nothing like that. It really doesn't sound like you have ever played the game at all.
-----Zero Punctuation Eve Online Review-----
Don't you hate it when people bash games they have never played
, I mean I can't say anything good or anything bad because i don't have the game yet
, but i am getting it VERY soon
, and from what I have read its a great game and i don't mind waiting for updates I played Guild wars for a lond time and it sucked at first but now its a good game because all of NC games get better over time.
Fail at same time?
How people play on going wrong?
going tabula rasa for information???
thx
auto assault without cool vehicles.
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Agreed, not playing anything, while waiting for a good game to come, out is overkill. But Tabula Rasa isn't worth filling the gap until something like Conan (although now it is dumbed down to be played on TV-toys, not good) comes along to feed our gaming need. I thought about trying Eve to fill the gap, but nah. I considered going back and blowing the dust off my Defenders in City of Heroes... but nah. I have desided to brave the cold rainy spring and just go on longer runs and finish a few extra books (Like Mark Levin, Rescuing Sprite. Wonderful book, tears well up in my eyes reading it
As for population... I guess it is like the complete BS of man-made global warming, people believe whatever their agenda influences them to believe... but I would bet a paycheck that the population in TR is plumeting. Not a little, not a trickle, more like a torrent. The server color for Orange-Medium is bogus. There is no way that there are more people playing this than the month after launch.
A handful of the diehards have leveled both characters to 50th and are hanging around in the high level zone, but the rest of the game is becoming a ghost town. The cloning system seems like a good idea at first glance, but only because playing this game is painfuly boring and it saves you from having to make a new character ever again. There is absolutely no reason to ever start a new character once you have made the first two and leveled them both to 15th. I am an inveterate alt-aholic... but even I would never want to start a brand new character and level it up to 30th in this game.
On Pegasus, I have multiple characters all the way up through the 40's and I am seeing few people at all, especially in the <30th level areas. Very few new people are starting characters in this game. Those that you do see are all the same names, over and over and over again. Watching chat and joining groups... there are only a few people that are playing anymore. Same names over and over and over.
I am not even in a guild and yet I end up teaming with the same people over and over (get the picture) regardless which of my characters and at what level I am playing that night. Orange-Medium? Don't kid yourself, popular this ain't.
As for the only thing I have seen discussed as a redeeming quality of this game - its combat... well umm... How is holding the left mouse button down with a piece of tape more complex that hitting 1,2,3,1,4,2,1 ?
I don't have to actually sight my BangBangBangBang noise maker at the target in order to shoot it... heck, I only barely have to be facing in the same direction as the target. It isn't a twitch game, it is a mock twitch with even less combat complexity than an MMO. I turn toward a target, set the edge of a book on the left mouse button and eat a slice of orange while it BangBangBangBangs until it dies.
"All the tedium from other games is stripped away and replaced with fast, shooter style action..."
Fast? It was fast-er than it is now at launch and that was only so-so. Shooter style? Ummm only if you fall for parlor tricks. That little reticle is only there to make us feel like the magic trick is working. The pretty girl in the box doesn't really disappear.
Revolutionary combat?
The only thing Turdbula Rasa has going for it as a game is lack of competition and that is why this steaming pile was released a year early. If this had come to market with any competition at all it wouldn't even have crickets making noise about it.
Oh well.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
I wouldn't say its failing. I think I'd rather say its finding its niche players. I played in the beta and didn't sub to it when it launched. I think its kinda a love hate relationship similar to many other games. People either love it or hate it. Same with WoW, SWG Pre-NGE and todays version. Look at EVE that is definitely a niche game I think Tabula Rasa is very similar.
I also have no doubt that game companies lower what they thinks makes a "medium" or any other lvl of a server population to hide declining interest. However I think NCSoft and Richard Garriot overhyped this game way too much. Too many people joined and then realized that its a niched game.
Have any of you people claiming that Tabula Rasa has "by far the best combat in MMOs" ever played DDO? You get better combat without the garbage game to go with it.
Agreed, not playing anything, while waiting for a good game to come, out is overkill. But Tabula Rasa isn't worth filling the gap until something like Conan (although now it is dumbed down to be played on TV-toys, not good) comes along to feed our gaming need. I thought about trying Eve to fill the gap, but nah. I considered going back and blowing the dust off my Defenders in City of Heroes... but nah. I have desided to brave the cold rainy spring and just go on longer runs and finish a few extra books (Like Mark Levin, Rescuing Sprite. Wonderful book, tears well up in my eyes reading it
As for population... I guess it is like the complete BS of man-made global warming, people believe whatever their agenda influences them to believe... but I would bet a paycheck that the population in TR is plumeting. Not a little, not a trickle, more like a torrent. The server color for Orange-Medium is bogus. There is no way that there are more people playing this than the month after launch.
A handful of the diehards have leveled both characters to 50th and are hanging around in the high level zone, but the rest of the game is becoming a ghost town. The cloning system seems like a good idea at first glance, but only because playing this game is painfuly boring and it saves you from having to make a new character ever again. There is absolutely no reason to ever start a new character once you have made the first two and leveled them both to 15th. I am an inveterate alt-aholic... but even I would never want to start a brand new character and level it up to 30th in this game.
On Pegasus, I have multiple characters all the way up through the 40's and I am seeing few people at all, especially in the <30th level areas. Very few new people are starting characters in this game. Those that you do see are all the same names, over and over and over again. Watching chat and joining groups... there are only a few people that are playing anymore. Same names over and over and over.
I am not even in a guild and yet I end up teaming with the same people over and over (get the picture) regardless which of my characters and at what level I am playing that night. Orange-Medium? Don't kid yourself, popular this ain't.
As for the only thing I have seen discussed as a redeeming quality of this game - its combat... well umm... How is holding the left mouse button down with a piece of tape more complex that hitting 1,2,3,1,4,2,1 ?
I don't have to actually sight my BangBangBangBang noise maker at the target in order to shoot it... heck, I only barely have to be facing in the same direction as the target. It isn't a twitch game, it is a mock twitch with even less combat complexity than an MMO. I turn toward a target, set the edge of a book on the left mouse button and eat a slice of orange while it BangBangBangBangs until it dies.
"All the tedium from other games is stripped away and replaced with fast, shooter style action..."
Fast? It was fast-er than it is now at launch and that was only so-so. Shooter style? Ummm only if you fall for parlor tricks. That little reticle is only there to make us feel like the magic trick is working. The pretty girl in the box doesn't really disappear.
Revolutionary combat?
The only thing Turdbula Rasa has going for it as a game is lack of competition and that is why this steaming pile was released a year early. If this had come to market with any competition at all it wouldn't even have crickets making noise about it.
Oh well.
OK so you say that this game is so bad that you can find somthing better to play until somthing better comes out , But yet you are still playing to be able to say " On Pegasus, I have multiple characters all the way up through the 40's and I am seeing few people at all, especially in the <30th level areas. So which is it ? Either your playing or your not and you hvae no idea what you are talking about. I am guessing you have no idea what you are talking about .If you are really willing to bet you pay check I would be happy to take it. Cause yes a lot of the power gamers that joined in the beginning left , But alot of new people have joined ,and even more have came back after leaving. I dont even know how many people that was on my friends list that left , Now i see them back . I have already got 4 free months from handing out buddy codes.
Again I DONT CARE IF ANYONE ELSES LIKES THE GAME I AM HAVING FUN. and I have yet to not be able to find a team .
I admit I have not played this one yet, however had many friends who played beta and release and the game simply does not have long lasting power. Everyone I know has gotten really excited over it for a week or two and then dropped pretty fast and not gone back.
Secondly this game cannot be a niche game, it cost too much of money to be one. It was made to be a blockbuster and by those standards it is already a failure , much like Vanguard.
And similar to my first box-month, I have already stopped playing before this month expires as well. (Apirl 3rd I believe is when they will begin the emails begging for me to quote... " Please, please,please come back, we need every single dime to help pay off this disaster of a game."
One problem is that we don't know any real information about the population in TR. It is all personal conjecture and guessing. Having two or more people talk about personal guesses doesn't get us anywhere closer to fact. As they say "The plural of Anecdote is Anecdotes, not Data."
I will make a few observations though...
One- The box now costs under $5. Otherwise known as Bargin Bin. There are screen savers that cost more than this game.
Two - This horrid company is handing out free passes to everyone on your mailing list, that isn't a good sign for the game, it means it is failing miserably. They are only passing these out hoping that a few people forget to cancel their accounts before the next billing cycle. If that is what is left of their business model, it makes me giddy to live in an economic world where such a shameful company can still try to make a go of it! Think about that for a second. This pathetic company was able to find finacial backing and market this humiliating game. GAME! What a Fantastic world to live in where losers like these devs still have enough available capital investment to make GAMES!!!
Wow would Adam Smith be proud of our free markets!
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
Thats one way to look at it I guess. They have removed the 3 day trial accounts as there were too many gold sellers spamming chat. Trials are only available by referral now.
I can also buy WOW for $5 on ebay. That game must be failing badly
Thats one way to look at it I guess. They have removed the 3 day trial accounts as there were too many gold sellers spamming chat. Trials are only available by referral now.
I can also buy WOW for $5 on ebay. That game must be failing badly
I gotta agree there. This game still lists for $39.99 at gamestop.com and bestbuy.com, it is 49.99 at walmart.com... where you can still buy the CE for 69.99. Calling the lowest price anyone ever paid on ebay the going rate is a bit of stretch.
Besides that... every MMO I have ever played had free trials, buddy passes and referral programs. I'm not sure what the guy feels is unscrupulous about TR doing it.
Lastly.. despite all the flaming from people who probably didn't play outside beta or a three day pass, this game is a hell of a lot of fun.
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Except that Tabula Rasa goes for under $10 consistently on eBay since launch. The highest I've seen the Collector's Edition go for is $26; I bought several copies for as low as $3. And you can say that it still goes for retail price at Gamestop and Walmart, but you forgot that they're brick-and-mortar retailers and they've probably paid at least $30 per box from their distributors. Amazon has been selling it for $10; when the world's biggest online retailer sells your product at fire sale prices, you know you've got a dud on your hands.
From the latest earnings report, you can probably guess that there are 125-150k subscribers. They've only sold 5,000 (online) copies during that time, and are projected to sell 15,000 copies next quarter. Even if every one of those buyers subscribes, NCsoft still couldn't recoup the development costs.