An old friend of mine decided to start playing SWG again so I logged in with the trial to give him all my credits, resources, pets, AV-21s, Barc speeders, ETC. I had to planet hop to drop the different houses in my data pads, pay fees, and add him to admin; so I ran thru many of the starports and I can honestly say that I only saw him and another guy online - that is all. Admittedly, it was late at night and I know for sure at least 3 other people were playing on the TS we were on - but still, 6 people total including me. Ironically, my old squad leader in once worthless bone armor and a slug thrower had the best gear out of all my toons and the leet armor and weapons I bought with my "ranger money" back in the day was made worthless with the NGE. I played around with my Jedi for sh!ts and giggles on Dath. I was killed by stuff that I once leveled combat XP on with commando skills and a box of thermal detonators. I suddenly didn't feel like the Force was with me - or anywhere within the planet I was on - or even in the game I was playing. The Force is supposed to be a powerful ally to a Jedi - I didn't feel it while I was playing this game and I doubt anyone ever does anymore. How can you make a Starwars game that feels like the FORCE is not with the player? How can you make a Starwars game that ignores the power of the FORCE? This game isn't Starwars; it can't be.
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cu When did YOU start playing?
As for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
No one claims there is a "big" population on most servers out side of a few servers. But when people come on and say things like I went everywhere and only saw 1 person in game is just plain wrong. Lets look at Radiant last week: 230 of 8917 Officers shown (2.57%). The Officers shown have all in all 830369 PvP Kills (3610 average). Last week the Officers shown gained all in all 15505 PvP Kills (67 average). There were 17 promotions, 9 demotions and 6 respecs (Full Respec-Stats). Of the Officers shown there are
There were 137 officers with at least 1 PvP kill. Please note that the ranked officers are only shown here from that server and it is well know that the vast majority of a server population does not engage in the GCW system. SOMEONE is playing on your server it seems.................................
And yes I know back in the day of the fabled pre-cu time period there were thousands of players at each starport.....................................................
You're using this table of people on this server and its very deceiving. I'll tell you why. You say there's a certain number of Imperials, right? 130 Imperials then you also say there are X number of captains and X number of Lieutenants as well as other numbers in other ranks but you're counting the same number of Imperials all over again. The way you're doing it you're counting all the IMperials then you're re-counting them all over again but in the order of what ranks they are. See what I mean? Therefore there were only 130 IMperials only.
These are not server numbers! 230 players on one server? You got to be kidding. And yes I only saw one player, a jedi master and this was on tats city. Some of the other severs may have a few players who as I mentioned get together I can understand this argument but please don't tell anyone there are people enough on these servers. On some games they have more then 230 in one spot alone, let alone in the entire server.
I spent 2 entire plus years in here most likely a lot more then some of you guys. I came back to check and as you can see I'm new here in these forums. I didnt even know there was a free trial til yesterday. I was hoping it had changed as I used to love this game but unfortunately its not, or yes it has changed but not the way I was hoping.
230 players is nothing!!
250 out of 8917? Kinda lopsized don't you think for a once proud game such as galaxies.
Hah! I have been in fleet ops larger then 250 in EVE. EVE usually has about 30,000 on it's one server.
An old friend of mine decided to start playing SWG again so I logged in with the trial to give him all my credits, resources, pets, AV-21s, Barc speeders, ETC. I had to planet hop to drop the different houses in my data pads, pay fees, and add him to admin; so I ran thru many of the starports and I can honestly say that I only saw him and another guy online - that is all. Admittedly, it was late at night and I know for sure at least 3 other people were playing on the TS we were on - but still, 6 people total including me. Ironically, my old squad leader in once worthless bone armor and a slug thrower had the best gear out of all my toons and the leet armor and weapons I bought with my "ranger money" back in the day was made worthless with the NGE. I played around with my Jedi for sh!ts and giggles on Dath. I was killed by stuff that I once leveled combat XP on with commando skills and a box of thermal detonators. I suddenly didn't feel like the Force was with me - or anywhere within the planet I was on - or even in the game I was playing. The Force is supposed to be a powerful ally to a Jedi - I didn't feel it while I was playing this game and I doubt anyone ever does anymore. How can you make a Starwars game that feels like the FORCE is not with the player? How can you make a Starwars game that ignores the power of the FORCE? This game isn't Starwars; it can't be.
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cu When did YOU start playing?
As for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
OMG, this is such a cop out. You're usinf the easy way out. How can you say because at some point the items would of decayed. I'm sorry but I was expecting some type of real answer and this sir, is not one.
An old friend of mine decided to start playing SWG again so I logged in with the trial to give him all my credits, resources, pets, AV-21s, Barc speeders, ETC. I had to planet hop to drop the different houses in my data pads, pay fees, and add him to admin; so I ran thru many of the starports and I can honestly say that I only saw him and another guy online - that is all. Admittedly, it was late at night and I know for sure at least 3 other people were playing on the TS we were on - but still, 6 people total including me. Ironically, my old squad leader in once worthless bone armor and a slug thrower had the best gear out of all my toons and the leet armor and weapons I bought with my "ranger money" back in the day was made worthless with the NGE. I played around with my Jedi for sh!ts and giggles on Dath. I was killed by stuff that I once leveled combat XP on with commando skills and a box of thermal detonators. I suddenly didn't feel like the Force was with me - or anywhere within the planet I was on - or even in the game I was playing. The Force is supposed to be a powerful ally to a Jedi - I didn't feel it while I was playing this game and I doubt anyone ever does anymore. How can you make a Starwars game that feels like the FORCE is not with the player? How can you make a Starwars game that ignores the power of the FORCE? This game isn't Starwars; it can't be.
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cu When did YOU start playing?
As for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
OMG, this is such a cop out. You're usinf the easy way out. How can you say because at some point the items would of decayed. I'm sorry but I was expecting some type of real answer and this sir, is not one.
In other words, you wanted an answer that suited your opinion... sorry for forming my own
LOL, here's mine but official forum reg date is March 12, 2004, I didn't bothered with the forums until then. At least I've been playing longer than most any other here, or so Obraik says *wink*.
LOL, here's mine but official forum reg date is March 12, 2004, I didn't bothered with the forums until then. At least I've been playing longer than most any other here, or so Obraik says *wink*.
Indeed, you've had an account 1 month longer then me.
No, I didn't want your answer to fit my opinion. I'm sorry but this isn't it. I just didnt't expect you to say you didn't mind because items would decay anyway. I thought you and others would say you didn't mind having all your stuff rendered useless by the new game. Your answer caught me by surprise to be honest.
I'm sure this topic has been discussed prior to this. The thing is once I left the game I never looked back until now. I never got into any discussion on any forum either. But when I saw the free trial I decided to go check and was very surprised by what I saw and I've said so.
So you wasn't in the game before the NGE? This explains a whole lot. Not just in you but others too who now play this game as you can't miss what you didn't have. If any of the current players wasn't in game back then, then of course they don't know, they can't feel what it was like to have these drastic changes take effect on all the time, effort, sweat and desired that was put into playing back then.
I have metals and steel for crafting that most of the numbers are either 100 or 95 and up. Back then they killed for this but now I don't even know if it's of any good. I had a cool setup with a few guys checking the harvesting areas everyday for new metals poping up and when this came up I blanketed the area with the best harvesters around. It was so sweet back then but now I dont even know if they in fact harvest anymore.
Some lucky person would be in heaven if I were to transfer all my belongings including over 187 million credits as well as ships with speeds over 100. But there's no one there to give it to. besides, where would you spend credits with no shops around?
Don't you think it would be best if servers were merged? They would just have one server like the game that recently closed down in September had. I can't recall the name right now but it was a car game with 3 different factions of mutants, humans and bio-meks in an apocolyptic era. Damn ,I can't recall the name of it. I liked that game too but people left that one too. The people running that one were smart enough to make just 1 sever due to the small amt of players.
I'm not sure but I believe they will transfer your avie to another server in this swg but for a fee. If this si true then maybe its why they haven't done the merger, to try to pull cash out of players.
I wish the game was half as decent as it once was. Even half way is better then this and IM also sure more players would be there too.
No, I didn't want your answer to fit my opinion. I'm sorry but this isn't it. I just didnt't expect you to say you didn't mind because items would decay anyway. I thought you and others would say you didn't mind having all your stuff rendered useless by the new game. Your answer caught me by surprise to be honest. I'm sure this topic has been discussed prior to this. The thing is once I left the game I never looked back until now. I never got into any discussion on any forum either. But when I saw the free trial I decided to go check and was very surprised by what I saw and I've said so. So you wasn't in the game before the NGE? This explains a whole lot. Not just in you but others too who now play this game as you can't miss what you didn't have. If any of the current players wasn't in game back then, then of course they don't know, they can't feel what it was like to have these drastic changes take effect on all the time, effort, sweat and desired that was put into playing back then. I have metals and steel for crafting that most of the numbers are either 100 or 95 and up. Back then they killed for this but now I don't even know if it's of any good. I had a cool setup with a few guys checking the harvesting areas everyday for new metals poping up and when this came up I blanketed the area with the best harvesters around. It was so sweet back then but now I dont even know if they in fact harvest anymore. Some lucky person would be in heaven if I were to transfer all my belongings including over 187 million credits as well as ships with speeds over 100. But there's no one there to give it to. besides, where would you spend credits with no shops around? Don't you think it would be best if servers were merged? They would just have one server like the game that recently closed down in September had. I can't recall the name right now but it was a car game with 3 different factions of mutants, humans and bio-meks in an apocolyptic era. Damn ,I can't recall the name of it. I liked that game too but people left that one too. The people running that one were smart enough to make just 1 sever due to the small amt of players. I'm not sure but I believe they will transfer your avie to another server in this swg but for a fee. If this si true then maybe its why they haven't done the merger, to try to pull cash out of players. I wish the game was half as decent as it once was. Even half way is better then this and IM also sure more players would be there too.
I'm on the fence when it comes to server merges. Of all the MMO's, other then WoW, SWG has the more servers then any of them, even more then other MMO's that likely have more subs then SWG has now, or has ever had in its history. SWG could do with having the total server numbers reduced to something more the norm in the MMO industry.
I think the servers that never really move beyond a Light load (I think there's about 8 of them) could probably be collapsed into 3 or 4 servers. The other servers that are usually always on a Medium or higher load (such as Bria, Bloodfin, Chimaera, Chilastra, etc) should all be left alone - populations on these servers are pretty good or in the case of Bria, too good.
There are some major implications with server merges though and it could do more harm then good. One of SWG's big things is that you and your servers community can make the server your own - no two servers really look the same, unlike most other MMO's out there. Player Cities would be destroyed and housing locations would be lost. This is a big deal for many people. There is of course the resource issue, however this could probably solved with some effort from the Devs.
They are working through the steps of solving the population issues on the low pop servers. Chapter 10 will be bringing the new LFG system that allows you to find people doing what you're interested in no matter where they are in the game. This may or may not help the low pop servers but it's better to take small steps first before jumping to the drastic solution of killing off servers and the history that people have on them.
As for how long I've been playing, see the screenshot in the post above
LOL, here's mine but official forum reg date is March 12, 2004, I didn't bothered with the forums until then. At least I've been playing longer than most any other here, or so Obraik says *wink*.
Indeed, you've had an account 1 month longer then me.
Since you showed yours, I guess I'll show mine
That would have been impressive - if you had a time machine set for 19 months ago - now not soe much.
It's more like 18 or so servers that are "light" or "very light" most of the time, an average of 6 servers are medium with Bria regularily hitting heavy nowadays. Free transfers seems to be the best solution, people are scared of forced merges. I saw a post somewhere on the official forums that flagging certain servers for free transfers to go to seems like a good idea that way a whole guild can choose which server to move to together, like that guild from Radiant that totalled over 100K GCW kills combined (one person had 45K!) moved to Bloodfin for better competition.
And FYI I don't think the LFG thing will work too well, having played City of Heroes on both large and small servers, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find people on small servers even through LFG unless you're in a guild or are well known and larger servers usually has full teams or people scattered across different levels. The LFG will work on big servers like Bria but won't do jack on small ones.
It's more like 18 or so servers that are "light" or "very light" most of the time, an average of 6 servers are medium with Bria regularily hitting heavy nowadays. Free transfers seems to be the best solution, people are scared of forced merges. I saw a post somewhere on the official forums that flagging certain servers for free transfers to go to seems like a good idea that way a whole guild can choose which server to move to together, like that guild from Radiant that totalled over 100K GCW kills combined (one person had 45K!) moved to Bloodfin for better competition.
And FYI I don't think the LFG thing will work too well, having played City of Heroes on both large and small servers, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find people on small servers even through LFG unless you're in a guild or are well known and larger servers usually has full teams or people scattered across different levels. The LFG will work on big servers like Bria but won't do jack on small ones.
lol...I hope they do free transfers instead of merges. Transfers will make the problem on low-pop servers worse and piss off all the people who were tricked into paying $50. That will create some really epic forum drama.
I came in the game several times yesterday since I took the 14 day free trial. This is a totally different game then the Galaxies I knew. Not only this but where the heck is everyone? There's no one in space, I mean no one. In the 4 or 5 hrs I spent yesterday in this game I saw all of one person, just one. And I'm talking about places like Naboo and a few others. Why does this game continue to have so many servers when a merger is really needed. No one here now. Theres no one in the game to play with. I couldn't believe there weren't other people in this place. I went to Tatoonie the place I lived at when I was here. I checked out the cantina just to see it as it brought back so many memories just being there. But its so sad to see the place is a virtual ghost town. I am in Radiant and I'm sure some of you will say your server has people but this isnt about that its about where are the people from radiant? This server had plenty of folks back then, now it's all gone. I was checking out all my former stuff , the great armors, weapons, metals and other stuff I have which now are useless due to the way they changed the game. I still have many, many millions in cash which even if I wanted to give it away I can't due to thers no one in game to begin with. I went to a few places just to soak in the great memories each place gave me. While standing there I could almost see the people of old talking and having a great time. The places we fought against each other and the great times we had. Everything now gone. All that remains are memories, memories which will never ever return as that era is gone, that game is gone. Now all that remains are ghost towns and empty memories. Too sad to see a great game like this come to nothing but a cracked shell, an empty barren shell of it's former self. Games management should be a shame of themselves having stolen the game right under its players and then to turn around and put this version out its even worse. While some of you may of adjusted to this game and some others having come in without knowing the game how it used to be it may be ok for you. But for the many of us who knew and loved the old game it's different, a lot different. Now I realize why the great majority of ex-players have stayed away. I may continue to drop in during the next 13 days because I love fighting in space and I have many great ships but I doubt I'll return for good. What for? Thers' no one in my sever. This game should have its name changed because this certainly isnt the SWG I knew, or we knew.
Where did you get a 14 day free trial? We talking about a new account or 14 day activation of your original account? For 14 days, I would reactivate my account. A while back they let us back in (can't remember how many day), but I still wasn't impressed with changes,
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Well I know they are true for my server, so by extension I think they are right for all servers.
General Gutboy Barrelhouse
Naritus server
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cuAs for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
That's where this pre cu jedi is
SHOHADAKU
You're using this table of people on this server and its very deceiving. I'll tell you why. You say there's a certain number of Imperials, right? 130 Imperials then you also say there are X number of captains and X number of Lieutenants as well as other numbers in other ranks but you're counting the same number of Imperials all over again. The way you're doing it you're counting all the IMperials then you're re-counting them all over again but in the order of what ranks they are. See what I mean? Therefore there were only 130 IMperials only.
These are not server numbers! 230 players on one server? You got to be kidding. And yes I only saw one player, a jedi master and this was on tats city. Some of the other severs may have a few players who as I mentioned get together I can understand this argument but please don't tell anyone there are people enough on these servers. On some games they have more then 230 in one spot alone, let alone in the entire server.
I spent 2 entire plus years in here most likely a lot more then some of you guys. I came back to check and as you can see I'm new here in these forums. I didnt even know there was a free trial til yesterday. I was hoping it had changed as I used to love this game but unfortunately its not, or yes it has changed but not the way I was hoping.
230 players is nothing!!
250 out of 8917? Kinda lopsized don't you think for a once proud game such as galaxies.
Hah! I have been in fleet ops larger then 250 in EVE. EVE usually has about 30,000 on it's one server.
SHOHADAKU
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cuAs for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
OMG, this is such a cop out. You're usinf the easy way out. How can you say because at some point the items would of decayed. I'm sorry but I was expecting some type of real answer and this sir, is not one.
To Obraik and other real time vets:
Obraik and you others vets please read this and tell me what you feel and think. But this is only for vets of the game back when it was swg, not now. Before they changed everything, tell me how you felt and why you didnt care they did this to you. Obviously, you didn't because you're still playing. Please read below.
Ong, you're so right.
Back when I played I had 3 accounts. My main was the fighter, a Master in Rifle for long distance fighting, TKA for when they got close and some Scout for speed movement and harvesting. The other 2 accounts were Masters in Architect, Armor , Artisan. Weapons and other skills. With these and A girlfriend I had who mastered Tailor and Doctor and a few others I had no need to buy anything as I would make it myself.
I put up shops made millions hitting the 200 million mark and would spend my money buying rare items to make awesome weapons and armor or to buy them. I had some of the best equipment around back then. But once they changed the game all that equipment that people would die for became garbage as now it was completely useless.
Tell me Obraik or some of you guys who still play now what do you think about this? About how all that stuff we gathered and fought over, the sweat and time we put into it. How do you feel about this? All that work for nothing as now everything was rendered useless.
I had a lot of pride in what I had accomplished and then out the blue it was all taken away like it all didnt matter. I feel everyone who left the game or most anyway, felt the same way. Our pride wouldnt let us continue on. But I know this wasnt the only reason as there were many others for leaving. I'm just curious to know how come it didnt affect you guys who were here back then. Didn't it bother you? IM sure you will say it did but you put it aside and if this is the case then I dont know how you did it unless you didnt put in as much time as some of us to let it bother you.
To come in and see the armor and weapons and professions we loved so much just made into a pile of nothing was something really big. The pets we had, I had a level 0 Rancor which people were bidding millions and millions for back then, now I couldnt even use anymore.
I recieved a bunch of vets awards when I returned, really nice stuff they are. I saw the one I forgot the name its so you can put your ship over your home. Are they now letting ships come down into the ground or does it still stay up in space? Interesting. It would of been nice having this back then.
What they need is a merger of servers but with players beign able to take most of their things.
Obraik can't tell you what his memory of Pre-CU was because he never played it. He only has the late CU and NGE to compare with.
I've probably been playing longer then most people here who call for pre-cuAs for the OP's question about why I can still play after all my pre-cu stuff (and even CU stuff) was made worthless? Because whether they did the NGE or not, all the stuff I had earned would have been made worthless at somepoint either through decay or something better being added. Nothing in an MMO is the best forever.
OMG, this is such a cop out. You're usinf the easy way out. How can you say because at some point the items would of decayed. I'm sorry but I was expecting some type of real answer and this sir, is not one.
In other words, you wanted an answer that suited your opinion... sorry for forming my ownLOL, here's mine but official forum reg date is March 12, 2004, I didn't bothered with the forums until then. At least I've been playing longer than most any other here, or so Obraik says *wink*.
Since you showed yours, I guess I'll show mine
No, I didn't want your answer to fit my opinion. I'm sorry but this isn't it. I just didnt't expect you to say you didn't mind because items would decay anyway. I thought you and others would say you didn't mind having all your stuff rendered useless by the new game. Your answer caught me by surprise to be honest.
I'm sure this topic has been discussed prior to this. The thing is once I left the game I never looked back until now. I never got into any discussion on any forum either. But when I saw the free trial I decided to go check and was very surprised by what I saw and I've said so.
So you wasn't in the game before the NGE? This explains a whole lot. Not just in you but others too who now play this game as you can't miss what you didn't have. If any of the current players wasn't in game back then, then of course they don't know, they can't feel what it was like to have these drastic changes take effect on all the time, effort, sweat and desired that was put into playing back then.
I have metals and steel for crafting that most of the numbers are either 100 or 95 and up. Back then they killed for this but now I don't even know if it's of any good. I had a cool setup with a few guys checking the harvesting areas everyday for new metals poping up and when this came up I blanketed the area with the best harvesters around. It was so sweet back then but now I dont even know if they in fact harvest anymore.
Some lucky person would be in heaven if I were to transfer all my belongings including over 187 million credits as well as ships with speeds over 100. But there's no one there to give it to. besides, where would you spend credits with no shops around?
Don't you think it would be best if servers were merged? They would just have one server like the game that recently closed down in September had. I can't recall the name right now but it was a car game with 3 different factions of mutants, humans and bio-meks in an apocolyptic era. Damn ,I can't recall the name of it. I liked that game too but people left that one too. The people running that one were smart enough to make just 1 sever due to the small amt of players.
I'm not sure but I believe they will transfer your avie to another server in this swg but for a fee. If this si true then maybe its why they haven't done the merger, to try to pull cash out of players.
I wish the game was half as decent as it once was. Even half way is better then this and IM also sure more players would be there too.
I think the servers that never really move beyond a Light load (I think there's about 8 of them) could probably be collapsed into 3 or 4 servers. The other servers that are usually always on a Medium or higher load (such as Bria, Bloodfin, Chimaera, Chilastra, etc) should all be left alone - populations on these servers are pretty good or in the case of Bria, too good.
There are some major implications with server merges though and it could do more harm then good. One of SWG's big things is that you and your servers community can make the server your own - no two servers really look the same, unlike most other MMO's out there. Player Cities would be destroyed and housing locations would be lost. This is a big deal for many people. There is of course the resource issue, however this could probably solved with some effort from the Devs.
They are working through the steps of solving the population issues on the low pop servers. Chapter 10 will be bringing the new LFG system that allows you to find people doing what you're interested in no matter where they are in the game. This may or may not help the low pop servers but it's better to take small steps first before jumping to the drastic solution of killing off servers and the history that people have on them.
As for how long I've been playing, see the screenshot in the post above
Since you showed yours, I guess I'll show mine
That would have been impressive - if you had a time machine set for 19 months ago - now not soe much.
It's more like 18 or so servers that are "light" or "very light" most of the time, an average of 6 servers are medium with Bria regularily hitting heavy nowadays. Free transfers seems to be the best solution, people are scared of forced merges. I saw a post somewhere on the official forums that flagging certain servers for free transfers to go to seems like a good idea that way a whole guild can choose which server to move to together, like that guild from Radiant that totalled over 100K GCW kills combined (one person had 45K!) moved to Bloodfin for better competition.
And FYI I don't think the LFG thing will work too well, having played City of Heroes on both large and small servers, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find people on small servers even through LFG unless you're in a guild or are well known and larger servers usually has full teams or people scattered across different levels. The LFG will work on big servers like Bria but won't do jack on small ones.
lol...I hope they do free transfers instead of merges. Transfers will make the problem on low-pop servers worse and piss off all the people who were tricked into paying $50. That will create some really epic forum drama.
Where did you get a 14 day free trial? We talking about a new account or 14 day activation of your original account? For 14 days, I would reactivate my account. A while back they let us back in (can't remember how many day), but I still wasn't impressed with changes,