Like I said before, disregard this post because you people didn't understand anything the post was about and replied random bull shit that was irrelevant and off discussion.
Like I said before, disregard this post because you people didn't understand anything the post was about and replied random bull shit that was irrelevant and off discussion.
Then learn how to clearly write a forum discussion topic. If you took any sort of english literature and got to write alot of papers in high school and a few in college you should be able to do this rather easily.
And I concur with Shifty the rick rolling was entirely on par.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I gotta say, you guys impressed me. You are the first to convince me to come out of my "I don't post on forums" shell, just because of some of the ridiculous stuff I am reading. I am currently playing 0 MMORPG's right now because frankly I think all the ones out right now suck. I played wow for a couple years, and I am a big fan of blizzard, but I can't stand WoW honestly. Ofcourse random friends keep conning me into playing with them sometimes but the result is the same. I stop playing. Now as for WAR vs AoC , who cares? Honestly they both look like bad ass games. But I'm definetely waiting for AoC, over WAR only because I spent a lot of money building my PC (and i just bought a 55" wide 1920x1080p hdtv witha dvi-hdmi cable). I want a game with good graphics and non-auto attack. Whichever comes out first is really the one I am going to play unless I play it for a bit n I think it sux, then I'll play the other one. WAR will prolly be more successful because of it's history as an awsome game, and Arnold didn't ruin it, haha. I think that AoC will be the better game though, it brings new technology into the world of MMO's and that's really what we need cuz were all tired of the cookie cutter MMO's and want something new. WAR is just a completely new DAoC with similar to WoW graphics.
Like I said before, disregard this post because you people didn't understand anything the post was about and replied random bull shit that was irrelevant and off discussion.
ROFL! ok, next time you try please make sure people know what the heck you are on about before posting
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I gotta say, you guys impressed me. You are the first to convince me to come out of my "I don't post on forums" shell, just because of some of the ridiculous stuff I am reading. I am currently playing 0 MMORPG's right now because frankly I think all the ones out right now suck. I played wow for a couple years, and I am a big fan of blizzard, but I can't stand WoW honestly. Ofcourse random friends keep conning me into playing with them sometimes but the result is the same. I stop playing. Now as for WAR vs AoC , who cares? Honestly they both look like bad ass games. But I'm definetely waiting for AoC, over WAR only because I spent a lot of money building my PC (and i just bought a 55" wide 1920x1080p hdtv witha dvi-hdmi cable). I want a game with good graphics and non-auto attack. Whichever comes out first is really the one I am going to play unless I play it for a bit n I think it sux, then I'll play the other one. WAR will prolly be more successful because of it's history as an awsome game, and Arnold didn't ruin it, haha. I think that AoC will be the better game though, it brings new technology into the world of MMO's and that's really what we need cuz were all tired of the cookie cutter MMO's and want something new. WAR is just a completely new DAoC with similar to WoW graphics.
Alright, theres my 2 cents. Flame on!
No offense but you have failed to bring anything of relevence to this "discussion" besides what has already been pointed out by others with similar views in other posts in this and other forums. You do have a reason to play AoC because of your hardware but yet fail to bring any legitimate reason it will be better then the other besides what many many people have ignorantly stated on graphics comparison and gameplay. In fact, no one knows which will be better, until both can be played in their final releases.
Sorry if that came off harsh, but your shell does miss you.
I'm waiting on Warhammer - but keeping my enthusiasm level low until it actually releases and people have a chance to play it.
I probably won't even get it for 2 - 4 weeks after launch... I've been burned a couple times jumping on the bandwagon early and having a game not live up to expectations.
The one thing I'm really looking forward to is the RvR. PvE has become too much the same from game to game - and I'm hoping for someone to come up with some new innovation in the genre over the next few years... so for me - because I do enjoy open world PvP and shirmish... the idea of RvR seems very appealing and enough "different" than what I am currently playing to hopefully hold my attention for a while.
I gotta say, you guys impressed me. You are the first to convince me to come out of my "I don't post on forums" shell, just because of some of the ridiculous stuff I am reading. I am currently playing 0 MMORPG's right now because frankly I think all the ones out right now suck. I played wow for a couple years, and I am a big fan of blizzard, but I can't stand WoW honestly. Ofcourse random friends keep conning me into playing with them sometimes but the result is the same. I stop playing. Now as for WAR vs AoC , who cares? Honestly they both look like bad ass games. But I'm definetely waiting for AoC, over WAR only because I spent a lot of money building my PC (and i just bought a 55" wide 1920x1080p hdtv witha dvi-hdmi cable). I want a game with good graphics and non-auto attack. Whichever comes out first is really the one I am going to play unless I play it for a bit n I think it sux, then I'll play the other one. WAR will prolly be more successful because of it's history as an awsome game, and Arnold didn't ruin it, haha. I think that AoC will be the better game though, it brings new technology into the world of MMO's and that's really what we need cuz were all tired of the cookie cutter MMO's and want something new. WAR is just a completely new DAoC with similar to WoW graphics.
Alright, theres my 2 cents. Flame on!
what new technology? Everything AoC is doing has been done in some form or shape. The only pure new thing they have is the drunken brawling mini game and a supposed over life time arching personal quest oh and their single player experience at the beginning.
If i missed something in my quiet observation of AoC could you let me know so I can take another look..because as far as I can tell its all been done before..not that ...thats a bad thing because every time a mechanic is done over its usually done 'better' and evolved from the original form. WoW is the best example of that...nothing they've ever done is a new mechanic its all evolved from classic MMOs before it. Though they did crap o fy the meaning to PvP.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
So many seem to think that "swinging the sword yourself" is so new and fresh and that something like it never has existed. Well I have played DDO and you basicly do just that in it.
It's really fun but I still don't think it's so fun when you still have levels in the game. What's the point in being skilled when somebody beats you because of stupid level differences even tho he fought like a bum?
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I never had that problem in DDO...I mean if they were ALOT higher than you yea but usually a few levels difference didn't determine the fight especially if they made a really horrible build. D&D is like a hybrid skill / level system. The level just determines how many points you have...but you have to decide where to put them.
What I hated was DDO had a standard build..adn then if you got X reputation you got access to make a 32 point build...the game is not built for PvP ... so its PvP is heavily unbalanced.
Anyway I digress yea Live action MMORPG combat isn't new lol Its a bane to your hand thats for sure...i found using the auto attack while aiming with the mouse less painful if you played a long session. (sorry for begin so off topic!!)
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I have playd DAOC seens beta, and till like 1 year ago. There have never been agame forfelling my needs as this game. But when that is sayd.
You as for WH vs AOC.
I know that WH will have alot of plays becuse of what tehy did whit DAOC but, im afread that this time whit WH it will die out fast. All becuse that WH "is" a wow look alike, and they know it and all the gamers out there that cant get there " head " out, they know it.
*So there is AOC, this game has a all knew "turn" im not saying its never seen before, becuse it its. Atless in some aspects.
But still this game is new, its grafic are more realisic and hardcore. There are pvp system and cvc system, pluse a upen "killing zone, combind to the rest of the world. Beside this we will see a new cvc / rvr / fvf payment, informs of citys, glory ect.
There is a lot more new things, and there is alot more that i guess cut have been better. But still this game is what any pvp player are looking for, and its not a copycat to the fullest as WH will be this time. And ea " god knows why "
Graphics doesn't add anything for me..honestly I hate AoC's graphics..they're gorgeous from a development standpoint but they're not what im looking for..and im not fond of the art style either.
AoC offers absolutely nothing new period..and its designed around a hardcore gamer type from EQ1 Raiders, WoW Raiders, and Shadowbane. Not exactly my cup of tea...and I know I'm not alone.
Mythic's approach (unless they 180s us at release) is based around alot of things I find important in gaming and as I remember it alot of gamers loved those things about games...but MMOS got lost somewhere between EQ1's 4th expansion and WoW.
So to be honest as long as they don't 180 us ... I don't see why WAR won't be a rather large success and stay that way...after all the only games that immediately die off fast in population sucked from the beginning *cough Vanguard, DDO, SWG after the NGE*.
Having a 'WoW' look obviously means you know very little about Warhammer. And I'm not talking about the tired WoW stole from WAR argument.
So please for the love of baby jesus name what is NEW...in Age of Conan..what hasnt' been done before..because as far as I can tell it offers nothing new.
Just to name a few things that aren't new
Player Cities, City Seiging, Dictating when a City is Siegable, Siege Weaponry, Guild Reliance, Tiered Raiding, Open FFA PvP, PvP Safe zones, Raid dependant Crafting, Zone ownership dependant Crafting. All of these things have been done by various dozens of mmos. The only thing new in relation to Age of Conan is how they're tying them all together around a core mechanic and limiting how many player cities are owned by a guild.
Just for reference I'm not calling AoC a clone of any sort...just simply stating alot of what they offer has been done in various games. Age of Conan in my firm belief is one of the first games in the past couple of years to offer a core mechanic based around (instead of added in after launch) the Hardcore Raid / PvP types which is something that has been missing for those types.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I didn't mean it was a problem in DDO but that it probably will be in AoC.'
And anyway, after playing Jedi Knight series all other "swing your sword" games feels mediocre to say the least. I wish I had Jedi Knight ONLINE! The same combat system but in a big seamless online world. Just picture it !!!
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Tried them booth and Conan feels less like WOW but it takes a really good computer to get it right. WH looks a lot like WOW and is running better on an old computer...
The main reason i will get AOC and not WAR is however the release date.
So AoC's combat system isn't new? Their defensive shift system isn't new? Mounted combat isn't new? Hrmm... As I once heard on an old TV show "Okie dokie rolie polie olie."
Combat-DDO does, Mounted combat-EQ2 does, not sure on def shift. To say WAR is WOW2 is so iggnorant. Its far from it. Does WOW have a TOK, no. Does WOW have RVR that actually means something to the whole world, no. Does WOW have Public Quests, Absolutely not, i could go on but why you ll never see it i guess.
It might be NEW in the MMORPG genre. But not anything else.
I don't think it looks like that much of a big deal. Especially with the skill bars at the bottom. And the skill trees.
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
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Its really creepy when I agree with SaintViktor...honestly ..reality check people? lol *pinches self*
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Hahaha ! I'm not that bad
Hahaha ! I'm not that bad
Well with one of the greatest movie characters EVER as a forum avatar, how could you be?!
FFXI: Gauhar - Odin
Like I said before, disregard this post because you people didn't understand anything the post was about and replied random bull shit that was irrelevant and off discussion.
I disagree.
The rickroll attempt was entirely relevant.
And I concur with Shifty the rick rolling was entirely on par.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I gotta say, you guys impressed me. You are the first to convince me to come out of my "I don't post on forums" shell, just because of some of the ridiculous stuff I am reading. I am currently playing 0 MMORPG's right now because frankly I think all the ones out right now suck. I played wow for a couple years, and I am a big fan of blizzard, but I can't stand WoW honestly. Ofcourse random friends keep conning me into playing with them sometimes but the result is the same. I stop playing. Now as for WAR vs AoC , who cares? Honestly they both look like bad ass games. But I'm definetely waiting for AoC, over WAR only because I spent a lot of money building my PC (and i just bought a 55" wide 1920x1080p hdtv witha dvi-hdmi cable). I want a game with good graphics and non-auto attack. Whichever comes out first is really the one I am going to play unless I play it for a bit n I think it sux, then I'll play the other one. WAR will prolly be more successful because of it's history as an awsome game, and Arnold didn't ruin it, haha. I think that AoC will be the better game though, it brings new technology into the world of MMO's and that's really what we need cuz were all tired of the cookie cutter MMO's and want something new. WAR is just a completely new DAoC with similar to WoW graphics.
Alright, theres my 2 cents. Flame on! 
ROFL! ok, next time you try please make sure people know what the heck you are on about before posting
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
No offense but you have failed to bring anything of relevence to this "discussion" besides what has already been pointed out by others with similar views in other posts in this and other forums. You do have a reason to play AoC because of your hardware but yet fail to bring any legitimate reason it will be better then the other besides what many many people have ignorantly stated on graphics comparison and gameplay. In fact, no one knows which will be better, until both can be played in their final releases.
Sorry if that came off harsh, but your shell does miss you.
I'm waiting on Warhammer - but keeping my enthusiasm level low until it actually releases and people have a chance to play it.
I probably won't even get it for 2 - 4 weeks after launch... I've been burned a couple times jumping on the bandwagon early and having a game not live up to expectations.
The one thing I'm really looking forward to is the RvR. PvE has become too much the same from game to game - and I'm hoping for someone to come up with some new innovation in the genre over the next few years... so for me - because I do enjoy open world PvP and shirmish... the idea of RvR seems very appealing and enough "different" than what I am currently playing to hopefully hold my attention for a while.
what new technology? Everything AoC is doing has been done in some form or shape. The only pure new thing they have is the drunken brawling mini game and a supposed over life time arching personal quest oh and their single player experience at the beginning.
If i missed something in my quiet observation of AoC could you let me know so I can take another look..because as far as I can tell its all been done before..not that ...thats a bad thing because every time a mechanic is done over its usually done 'better' and evolved from the original form. WoW is the best example of that...nothing they've ever done is a new mechanic its all evolved from classic MMOs before it. Though they did crap o fy the meaning to PvP.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
So many seem to think that "swinging the sword yourself" is so new and fresh and that something like it never has existed. Well I have played DDO and you basicly do just that in it.
It's really fun but I still don't think it's so fun when you still have levels in the game. What's the point in being skilled when somebody beats you because of stupid level differences even tho he fought like a bum?
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I never had that problem in DDO...I mean if they were ALOT higher than you yea but usually a few levels difference didn't determine the fight especially if they made a really horrible build. D&D is like a hybrid skill / level system. The level just determines how many points you have...but you have to decide where to put them.
What I hated was DDO had a standard build..adn then if you got X reputation you got access to make a 32 point build...the game is not built for PvP ... so its PvP is heavily unbalanced.
Anyway I digress yea Live action MMORPG combat isn't new lol
Its a bane to your hand thats for sure...i found using the auto attack while aiming with the mouse less painful if you played a long session. (sorry for begin so off topic!!)
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I have playd DAOC seens beta, and till like 1 year ago. There have never been agame forfelling my needs as this game. But when that is sayd.
You as for WH vs AOC.
I know that WH will have alot of plays becuse of what tehy did whit DAOC but, im afread that this time whit WH it will die out fast. All becuse that WH "is" a wow look alike, and they know it and all the gamers out there that cant get there " head " out, they know it.
*So there is AOC, this game has a all knew "turn" im not saying its never seen before, becuse it its. Atless in some aspects.
But still this game is new, its grafic are more realisic and hardcore. There are pvp system and cvc system, pluse a upen "killing zone, combind to the rest of the world. Beside this we will see a new cvc / rvr / fvf payment, informs of citys, glory ect.
There is a lot more new things, and there is alot more that i guess cut have been better. But still this game is what any pvp player are looking for, and its not a copycat to the fullest as WH will be this time. And ea " god knows why "
Graphics doesn't add anything for me..honestly I hate AoC's graphics..they're gorgeous from a development standpoint but they're not what im looking for..and im not fond of the art style either.
AoC offers absolutely nothing new period..and its designed around a hardcore gamer type from EQ1 Raiders, WoW Raiders, and Shadowbane. Not exactly my cup of tea...and I know I'm not alone.
Mythic's approach (unless they 180s us at release) is based around alot of things I find important in gaming and as I remember it alot of gamers loved those things about games...but MMOS got lost somewhere between EQ1's 4th expansion and WoW.
So to be honest as long as they don't 180 us ... I don't see why WAR won't be a rather large success and stay that way...after all the only games that immediately die off fast in population sucked from the beginning *cough Vanguard, DDO, SWG after the NGE*.
Having a 'WoW' look obviously means you know very little about Warhammer. And I'm not talking about the tired WoW stole from WAR argument.
So please for the love of baby jesus name what is NEW...in Age of Conan..what hasnt' been done before..because as far as I can tell it offers nothing new.
Just to name a few things that aren't new
Player Cities, City Seiging, Dictating when a City is Siegable, Siege Weaponry, Guild Reliance, Tiered Raiding, Open FFA PvP, PvP Safe zones, Raid dependant Crafting, Zone ownership dependant Crafting. All of these things have been done by various dozens of mmos. The only thing new in relation to Age of Conan is how they're tying them all together around a core mechanic and limiting how many player cities are owned by a guild.
Just for reference I'm not calling AoC a clone of any sort...just simply stating alot of what they offer has been done in various games. Age of Conan in my firm belief is one of the first games in the past couple of years to offer a core mechanic based around (instead of added in after launch) the Hardcore Raid / PvP types which is something that has been missing for those types.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Innovation means they did something new which the haven't...Epic failure at trying to troll.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I didn't mean it was a problem in DDO but that it probably will be in AoC.'
And anyway, after playing Jedi Knight series all other "swing your sword" games feels mediocre to say the least. I wish I had Jedi Knight ONLINE! The same combat system but in a big seamless online world. Just picture it !!!
Here's a juicy EXAMPLE VID!
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
hehe s'alright...lol gotta love the minterreptations of forum posts lol
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Tried them booth and Conan feels less like WOW but it takes a really good computer to get it right. WH looks a lot like WOW and is running better on an old computer...
The main reason i will get AOC and not WAR is however the release date.
The way I see it, the only major difference between the two games is summed up here (and no, this is not a rickroll... that's getting old)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh71hePR8Q&feature=related
Combat-DDO does, Mounted combat-EQ2 does, not sure on def shift. To say WAR is WOW2 is so iggnorant. Its far from it. Does WOW have a TOK, no. Does WOW have RVR that actually means something to the whole world, no. Does WOW have Public Quests, Absolutely not, i could go on but why you ll never see it i guess.
It might be NEW in the MMORPG genre. But not anything else.
I don't think it looks like that much of a big deal. Especially with the skill bars at the bottom. And the skill trees.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "