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Just what is one able to do in Eve?
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Sorry for not going through the various topics but don't really have a lot of time at the moment so I'm just going to ask this. If there is another topic that covers this please feel free to link but your opinions would be great.
Just what is one able to do in Eve in terms of gameplay. From what I understand you can either kill pirates, mine asteroids and build things for ships, or do mission which require you to do what I listed before or transport things from one station to another. Is there anything more?
With other MMORPGs I can get a good idea of what I might be doing but with Eve not so much since it's so different.
Thanks.
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YOU CAN ALSO PVP
YOU CAN ALSO BUY AND UPGRADE DIFFERENT SHIPS
Yeah, the PvE aspects of the game are quite limited and that's how CCP actually wants it to be and I agree with them.
EvE online is a game that really requires patience. People that aren't dum usually plan out things in the beginning of the game. Since it's a skill-based game, you don't need to grind anything to get your skills up, your skills are trained time based even when you are offline (has its disadvantages and advantages). The speed of training is determined by 5 ability points.
In EvE the little word "solo" does not exist, to be able to effectively do "greater" stuff requires you to be in a larger, more experienced corp.
The thing I love about EvE are the logistics in this game and I'm talking about fleet combat, corp to corp relationships (remember if your corp has a goal, doesn't mean that there isn't a bunch of people that can ruin it for you), more risk more potential gain. If you loose a ship in this game, you have lost it and to me, knowing that I can loose a ship in PvP or however is the most exciting thing. It means that you have to plan things out, know your enemy, know your ability and how effectively can you fight your enemy...
So yeah, it's all about patience
To me, this game is the best MMO because you are not told what to do or where to go, you make your own history. It is a unique MMO and you have to try it out yourself to see what I'm talking about.
You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
I've never tried the game. How expensive it is it to build a new ship? Does it feel like a real risk losing one? And do you think I could ''get to know'' the game in the 14-day trial?
First off, you may want to check out this article, www.eurogamer.net/article.php which does a good job explaining the importance of human interaction and working with others in EVE.
A direct answer to your question is: You can do anything and everything that the game mechanics allow. It's very difficult to list out all the activities you can do b/c they are constantly evolving due to the nature of human interaction and new activities are always coming into light due to the creativeness of other players.
You have your basic level stuff such as asteroid mining, killing NPC pirates, building ships/ammo/equipment, run missions/quests, pvp, trade and play the markets, etc.
And then you have the advanced stuff such as running a corp, being a diplomat, mercenary work, being a pirate, moon material mining, exploration, take part in an empire war or take part in an alliance 0.0 territorial war, become a mentor for rookie pilots, etc.
Well most people get a feel for the steep lurning curve the game has in the 14-day trial. When you hop into EvE online you really get overwhelmed, to play the game successfuly you MUST do the ingame tutorial. After the tutorial is done most of the people feel lost, cause there really isn't anything to direct you from there. You get into the rookie channel and people can be very helpful there.
In the beginning you do not make a lot of money, so buying even the best frigate can take you some time + you need to train your skills to be able to fly one. Once you successfuly do lvl 1 missions and get a feel for it and check some guides (there are a lot of them), you can probably train for cruisers so that you can do lvl 2 missions (more money).
If you don't like combat, you can try mining. But I'll tell you right now solo mining is one boring thing to do, you can get lots of money from it though but not at the beginning
A common mistake that people make is that they think bigger is better, which is not entirely true in EvE, why? Because the bigger the ship is, the slower the turrets on the ships are and can't track faster flying small ships. Another common mistake is that people train to fly lets say a battle ship, they save the money to buy it, but they don't have enough skills to effectively fly it, what usually happens is that these people loose their battleship (which costs a nice amount of money the first time you buy it) and quit the game
You start with 5k ISK and battleships range from 60mil - 140mil (the basic ones) just so that you have a feeling of how much it costs. And my estimate would be that you need to train your skills for about 4 months before you are effective in a battleship.
Once you effectively fly a battleship, you make enough money to easily replace any smaller ships such as battlecruisers, cruisers...
Hope this sheds some light.
You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
Well most people get a feel for the steep lurning curve the game has in the 14-day trial. When you hop into EvE online you really get overwhelmed, to play the game successfuly you MUST do the ingame tutorial. After the tutorial is done most of the people feel lost, cause there really isn't anything to direct you from there. You get into the rookie channel and people can be very helpful there.
In the beginning you do not make a lot of money, so buying even the best frigate can take you some time + you need to train your skills to be able to fly one. Once you successfuly do lvl 1 missions and get a feel for it and check some guides (there are a lot of them), you can probably train for cruisers so that you can do lvl 2 missions (more money).
If you don't like combat, you can try mining. But I'll tell you right now solo mining is one boring thing to do, you can get lots of money from it though but not at the beginning
A common mistake that people make is that they think bigger is better, which is not entirely true in EvE, why? Because the bigger the ship is, the slower the turrets on the ships are and can't track faster flying small ships. Another common mistake is that people train to fly lets say a battle ship, they save the money to buy it, but they don't have enough skills to effectively fly it, what usually happens is that these people loose their battleship (which costs a nice amount of money the first time you buy it) and quit the game
You start with 5k ISK and battleships range from 60mil - 140mil (the basic ones) just so that you have a feeling of how much it costs. And my estimate would be that you need to train your skills for about 4 months before you are effective in a battleship.
Once you effectively fly a battleship, you make enough money to easily replace any smaller ships such as battlecruisers, cruisers...
Hope this sheds some light.
Thanks, a very informative and good post. I might consider trying it soon, got a lot in school right now.
Train learning skills for the first month or two while running the same boring missions over and over again which is all there is in EVE or you can do trade routes and crafting which basically is jumping all day long which you can do without actually playing the game so whats the point? Youc an do low sec PVP which is basically camp a gate or kill people at asteroid fields oh joy or fleet battles in 0.0 which basically is capital ship wars but to get to that stage you'll spend a year just logging in to the game to train skills and then logging off.
The problem with EVE is you don't actually play it to advance, just give them $15 a month and it does it for you.
Theres also lots of great sites to see like oh yeh different colourered pictured backgrounds and..... that's about it really.
I my opion game is not friendly to new players and will slowly die, unless they come out with a N.G.E. such as Sony did with Star Wars Galexey.
MAGA
Worst advice ever. That's a surefire way of ruining your experience with the game. The first month or so should be spent exploring the depth of the game and learning the mechanics. Only after you have decided on a specialization path should you consider maxing out the learning skills.
People who believe that the more skillpoints they have the stronger they are, usually end up having a pretty bad experience with the game and quit b/c they think bored themselves to death.
Vickypollard you have clearly not played this game to any depth so shut up.
Elsabolts, you are just an idiot, do the same.
In EVE if you persist with it you can..
low sec piracy: camp gates, ransom people, pvp against other gangs.
mercenary:be a High sec merc, protect the indy corps being targetted by pirates. Just fight anyone you are paid to fight. Also can do this in low sec. Or in 0.0 warfare as one major alliance does.
production: Take part in the very detailed production world in EVE.
mining:want to mine? then go for it.
mission running
0.0 alliance warfare:get involved in the politics and massive fleet warfare of 0.0.
Market trading:Make money, it is easy, identify regional trade hubs, and buy cheap in Jita and sell good in the regional hubs. I am doing this on my hauler alt atm.
At first I only wanted to go to 0.0 and be in fleet warfare, now I am a -7.5 sec player and am annoyed because I want to retire from low sec piracy and enter into a high sec merc corp, or do high sec piracy.
In effect you decide what your endgame is going to be.
Get EVEMon to plan out your skills as it will tell you when spending a bit of time training learning skills will actually make your plan finish faster. The only time you should ever spend a month on learning skills is if you make an alt and have a main to play on. Otherwise you'll get bored out of your mind.
Part of the game is finding a way to make isk that works for you. For instance, Level 4 missioning makes quite a bit of money but I hated it (was very boring), hence I found something else to do. Now I have a trade alt, research alts (not that much money anymore), and most of my income comes from mining in 0.0.
After you have a good way of making isk, losing ships doesn't hurt you that much. As an example, I can make about 40m an hour mining in 0.0. If a ship costs me 140m to fully fit out, it would take me 3.5 hours of mining to replace. It's not hard to replace a lost ship, but still enough time that it makes PvP more thrilling than if it cost you nothing.
Finally, what you can do in EVE is pretty much up to your creativity and if you're willing to spend the time to see it through. For instance, if you want to be a Fleet Commander, you have to prove to an alliance / corporation that you can be trusted with a fleet that can cost the corp billions, and you have to take all the responsibility that corp / alliance assigns to their FCs. It can be very rewarding, but it does take effort.
EDIT: To clarify some of the above a bit better: Losing ships is part of the game, so don't let dying get to you. You shouldn't lose a ship daily and probably not even weekly so you should have some money saved up. Something a lot of new people don't learn is that you need to have multiple ships, not just one really expensive one. If you put everything you have into one ship and then lose it, of course it will be hard to recover! Be smart, have backup ships, have money to replace even more, and then dying is barely more than a chance to learn from your mistakes.
You can do almost anything you can do in RL in EvE,you can pirate,you can become a merc,you can con,extort,lend money ,be a loanshark,steal,pirate,trade,monopolize the market.
People with lack of imagination (aka most WoW players that try eve),will whine and complain that all you can do is missions or mining.
Also dont listen to any of the local trolls who say that you can never catch up to older players ,most people dont understand that the point in eve is not to train up skills and have the most SP (omigod I has to lvl),but the point in eve is to make a name for yourself and do what you like focusing on the skills that help you reach your goal faster.
Let's not take into account the fact that the game is roughly 5 years old now and -still- growing. That is a pretty ignorant remark, to be honest. EVE is a game that can constantly be updated to be modernized and to be able to compete with other games on the market. They started slow, and snowballed into success. The farther the game progresses, the more people play it. It has NEVER been friendly to new players. Even when it started it was a harsh world, and it is meant to be so.
That is its appeal. It is not friendly at the start, because it is -never- friendly. It is difficult and harsh all the way through the game.
Like others have said, you're really just limited by what you want to do. While it is overwhelming at the beginning, there are many to help you out. I would suggest looking up Eve University as they have been a great organization for helping new players and getting them going in Eve Online. It's one of the few truly sandbox style games, and worth playing. Enjoy!
It has never been friendly to the old players either, to be honest.
I dont understand why VickiPollard bothers posting in this forum. Check the post history, all he seems to do is flame eve, desite not having played it.
We get it, you dont like it. now go do something you DO enjoy.
I'm a 'new' player (10 months) and sure, I've done a lot of PVE content (what you called kill pirates, mine asteroids and build things for ships, or do mission) and you'll definitely spend some time doing it to raise the cash you need (unless you plan to trade GTC's for ISK) to do PVP and other fun activities.
But take me for example. Just this past weekend I decided to change my PVP focus a bit (since I sort of suck at killing folks) and do a bit of combat scouting/probing. Quick search on Google told me the skills that I needed to train for combat probing, and I already have ability to fly stealth ships from my Stealth Bomber days.
So within a few weeks I'm going to be running around 0.0 launching scan probes in various systems to see what I can track down. Hopefully I can become proficient enough that I can fly point for our fleet operations and provide good intel which is vital to successful combat.
This is just one of the many careers you can carve out for yourself in 0.0. We have mining specialists who run fleet mining operations, which can strip an entire belt in a very short time. Other people can decide to become fleet commanders, while others might become expert crafters of Tech 2 ships/modules (which is an art form to be told)
Point is, nothing directs you to a particular path, you just sort of identify a place in the EVE universe where you feel you can be useful (or looks like fun) and you go do it.
You won't come to that conclusion in just a 14 day trial, it can take months or even years to find yourself completely. (if that ever really happens) Players evolve in EVE, they don't just play a game.
And patience is your friend.
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Someone said you don't play to progress yourself in EVE instead it does it for you. That is VERY untrue. While SP wise that is true. SP means very little in the whole of eve. EVE is very socialy and politicaly driven ingame and you cannot better your reputation by loging on every once in a blue moon to change skills. And in the world of EVE our reputation is both our most valued possession and heaviest burden
You can train skills and pay your monthly $14.95 and every now and then lose a ship and be pod killed. If you think im jokeing so be it.
MAGA
No Elsabolts, we just think you are an idiot.
Anyone not giving credit for something that some people spend a lot of time to do is an idiot, therefore Elsabolts you are one.
You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
So everyone knows most of what Vicky says here is a barer faced lie made up by someone who has obviously never played EvE.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
i like to stare at the skill screen and wonder which single skill i should train for the next 20+ days.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
First Off let me say ive only been playing EVE for about 14 months now and i run 4 accounts full time and all in all i like the game for the most part..
hmmm lets see here what i do, ive got an Amarr Pilot that im working on command ships but for now im an Interceptor and Heavy Assult ships Crusader,Sacrilege and Zealot pilot.. mainly focused on 0,0 space but since i left my alliance i guess its just training now..
Then ive got a Gallente Main focuses are Heavy Assult Ships,Battlecruiser's and DRONES and yet more DRONES... Since i left corp and alliance i just train him now
and do Low Sec Pirate killings(anti low sec gate camper)
A Mission Runner Minmatar all about the Typhoon and Tempest Working on a Macharial and training skills for shield tanking.. still play this toon alot for its my money maker..Kill and Salvage till i get bored and go play Tabula Rasa
Then my Caldari The Drake and Raven are all i fly in combat,not very skilled really cause my main focus has been on industry not a whole lot of fun tbh...Makes ISK's and such but nothing worth having this account, starting to focus more on Combat but not sure what role..
What im trying to say is that this game actually Blows unless you get into a Corp and still it has its moments.. outside of Defending or assulting a POS most combat takes place by a Gate.. i know ill be flamed but its the mechanics of the game and everyone does it from assulting a part of 0,0 space to defending it. all in all it really gets old after a while. im not going to say anything bad about my ex corp or alliance but for the most part thats about all we did
... Although i would really enjoy the ceptor gangs and hunting out enemy players it was a nice break from the boredom of protecting the 0,0 part of space.
My only Advice is join a corp that has alot of players in your country and time zone.. im an American looking for a Corp in an Alliance with alot of US west coast players. cause really my last corp and alliance was Europe heavy and no offense but man i really got tired of asking "What?" or you got some high pitched voice with a bunch of echo on it sounding like Gary and Mangy from the South Park with Oprah "hhhaaaa oh megawd the bloke is dwown to struckturre!!!!LOLOLOLOLOL" and your too busy cleaning the coffee you just choked up on the keyboard laughing your ass off cause you started thinking of that episode of South Park.
I hope i didnt offend anyone i mean really i like everyone who plays EVE and it doesnt matter what country your from your still my EVE brother or sister but really the main reason is the corp Ops that like take place at 5 in the frikkin morning and getting a bunch of crap cause your too frikkin tired to play or you have to go to work.. Its just better to have a corp that you can take part in with little effort instead of killing yourself with lack of sleep, and asking a fellow gang m8 in private chat WTF did he say???.. lol.. it really is a true international game but sometimes during heated combat the slangs and accents can cause just as much Havoc as the enemy..
But for the Most part the game is fun i think i just may be on a burn out as like i said i was only getting a few hours of sleep during a defense of our turf..