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Kairarr
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http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173438/page/5
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How can you prove that? What if AoC is using bots and the developers created a 100,000 forum accounts and using them to post about AoC?
The answer is you cant.
AoC has nothing more on the market then Darkfall does. The only difference is your view of a commercially acceptable game because I believe Darkfall is a Commercially acceptable game.
Now if AoC releases as planned then yes you will have room to talk but dont count on it. AoC WILL get pushed back again and if for some reason it is not pushed back then I am sorry to all the AoC fans because you will have another Vanguard on your hands.
My question is do you people believe the darkfall fans are right ?
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Short answer: No.
Longer answer:
Saying that FC has made 100k fake Forum Accounts and is lying to everyone about things is....really just a little pathetic. Because AoC has been in the media. The press has played the game. And more than enough people are really in beta. Some of them complain about the game, some praise it. That's only natural.
As for the push-back. I highly doubt it (of course, can't be 100%). My reasons? I just do. And I have heard from my "little birds" that things are well on track for the May 20th release.
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That kind of false public representation of the popularity of their product would make their investors rather angry and is quite probably illegal.
So I say no, there isn't some grand conspiracy of Funcom to falsify their beta numbers. Tinfoil hats are over there by the table.
This is baseless and kinda silly
Not a chance they are right.... If anything Darkfall has much more to prove than AOC.
I think its best to keep Darkfall discussion in the darkfall forum and same for AoC.
But as you made this post there will no doubt be a few comments from keeping this thread to die down. So after a few beers I'll just add in a few things here for my thoughts.
Obviously people like to compare and what not.
However, facts are:
Conclusion:
Live for the moment, make your own minds up.
Age of Conan will launch much to the dismay of the hardcore DF fans.
The main question to ask is:
HOW LONG DO YOU WILL YOU WAIT FOR DARKFALL?
Now I've tied to be as open as possible, but really the forum go'ers here are more than capable to make their own mind up. As I say I think DF is great on paper, but its barely much more than that right now from what I've seen. (Adventurine are well within their rights to with hold info too)
With Age of Conan I have continually been updated each month, I know and I can see and I have played and seen things like Spell / Skills - what they do and how they work and the mechanics of the game. With Darkfall, its like you get one BIG update every 18 months. That has to have an effect on the public in a negative way.
Make a fair comparison, compare both when both are released. I fear another 3 yrs for Darkfall so this argument might be forgotten by then!
Here is the best answer to all of this: Who the hell cares?????????
Aoc fans on War forum busting on the game
Aoc fans (and developers) on Darfall forum busting on the game
War fans on AoC forum busting on the game
Darkfall fans on AoC forum busting on the game
Why bust on any game? (Except WoW of course)
I hope that AoC, War and Darkfall all release and that they are all very successfull. Why on earth would you want any game in this genre to fail? More games coming out is a good thing. More games coming out that are a bit different then the new norm (WoW) is a VERY GOOD THING.
I dont know if Darkfall will ever be released but if they do release and they offer even half of what they promise it should be a pretty cool game.
AoC is currently my game of choice but if it doesnt fit the bill then i will be trying Aion. And if it doesnt fit the bill i will be trying something else. In my never ending quest to find a new MMO that doesnt suck.
Kairarr, you didn't mention that you are at Darkfall just to start flamethreads. You and your mates makes the normal fans of AoC look bad. And by starting this thread in here you're just trying to recruit more people for you're needs.
When you go to community of a game with your purpose to trash them down, you must relize that with such chilish behavior we're never gona take you serius. And with 8 post and all is about flaming darkfall. I've just think you're another alt. account just for this purpose.
Heres a few posts from you at Darkfall:
"Tasos was interviewed this saturday by warcry, video is on youtube. He talks about beta starting in 3 weeks, the video shows actual pvp fight animation and class creation.
I followed this game for 4 years, and i can finally say this game is REAL. best fay of my life"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
"I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums.
I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed.
I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right."
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
safwd has it well said. Why argue over a fact, currently hidden from us, and a fact that we need not find out as its does not affect us till it comes to the open.
Unless you are planning to invest in AoC or DF, why bother argue at all? Let the game development runs its full course. If it ever comes to commercial publication, good, its time to check out whether its worth $50. Till then its just another product under development.
OK, imagine you have $XXmillion and you got the option to buy out DF or AoC, NOW I mean, both offered at $XXmillion, which one will you pick? Assuming you must buy 1 and only 1 of the 2. That about sums up the relative faith you have in the 2 products. You do not have to tell me your choice, and I will keep my choice to myself.
I agree with Safwd.
But i still thinks its lame for a DF fanboi to bash AoC in this way. Im also a big DF fanboi, but i have nothing on AoC, its soon to be relesed and i will play it.
This has to be one of the most stupidest post i have ever seen, yet again someone trying to be clever & failing like ive never seen before, it just doesnt hold ground in any sense, pathtetic.
P.s I know not the OP, talking about Original Poster.
Since Avery already responded in (his usual) informative fashion all that is left in this thread is the laughter:
Haha! Darkfall fans accusing us of being delusional?! That's too rich, I think that quote just made my day!
There... I am better now!
No not fans, but fan. We're not supporting any comments like that.
And how it is quoted here at AoC are misleading. He just used same argument that many use at Darkfall. But it didn't turn out well.
You know what? The ONLY zero here is Darkfall.
Vanguard is actually out on the market.
Vanguard has thousands of people playing it.
Vanguard is making money.
What the fuck has Darkfall done lately? Other than get shit on publically over at Warcry..
You see, that's the thing about games in development - they're in development.Do you expect developers to release a game part way though development just because another game is already out?
Pah!
You can make that same "Vanguard" argument about AoC itself. Vanguard has been released - AoC has not. Vanguard was having its open beta while AoC was closed to outsiders.
No sorry you can't for the simple fact that Age of Conan is already a commercially acceptable product being played by thousands of people and releasing next month..
Pah!
Can you prove that AoC is being played by thousands of people and that it will release next month?
How can you prove that? What if AoC is using bots and the developers created a 100,000 forum accounts and using them to post about AoC?
The answer is you cant.
AoC has nothing more on the market then Darkfall does. The only difference is your view of a commercially acceptable game because I believe Darkfall is a Commercially acceptable game.
Now if AoC releases as planned then yes you will have room to talk but dont count on it. AoC WILL get pushed back again and if for some reason it is not pushed back then I am sorry to all the AoC fans because you will have another Vanguard on your hands.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
All right, I can see that the post were nowhere near as bad when put in full context, thanks for quoting the full discussion. And yes, I should have said 'fan' not 'fans', my mistake.
Absolutely spot on, Avery.
Ok the only thing i can think of with darkfall is that they may be acting extra cautious so there game doesnt end up like a dark and light release.
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I'm probably a bigger Darkfall fan and hopeful than most of the people here. The fact remains that they have next to nothing to show for the years of development. We have a few very very small video clips, and some screenshots. I really hope Darkfall is everything they claim it will be, but at the same time no fan or dev of Darkfall has a right to throw stones at Age of Conan. Even if AoC comes out and completely bombs, they still have produced something tangible where Darkfall has not.
One has to wonder why this hate exists so strong on the DF boards. Some people must obviously feel threatened by the fact that this game could be good and offer FFA PvP servers. The fact of the matter is that there is not a real MMORPG coming out for probably 6 months after AoC releases. Calm down, try AoC, and if in 6 months when something else comes out, you can try that. Darkfall has no release date, no beta date, and the updates put out by the lead Dev are quite honestly worthless until he can at least give us something along the lines of narrowing it down to a Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 time frame.
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Aye, I love the concept with Darkfall and I wan't it to be a great game. And I hope it will came out soon. But still I will play other games, Im way to curious to stick with one game.
I don't mind sceptical or negative post at darkfall, if they just elaborate so I've know why, helps alot when you're reply to it. But those who don't even want it to be released an keep going with negative post just for attention and attempt to upset the community, well why cant they just be locked out from the forum.
And I guess it is many AoC fans that think the same thing about the trolls over here.
MMORPG.com are a great site, but they can do it much better if they somehow with a miracle can keep the forum more peaceful. Sometimes threads turns out to be more 'competitive' than some Champions League forum in the begining of a season.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
That was a slam dunk post.
That was a great post, Avery, but unfortunately in response to a silly silly argument.
I may as well post a powerfully convincing rebuttal of the contention that the moon is made of cheese.
This whole effort to pit Darkfall against AoC is bizarre..
One is an idea, with very little to show for it but which represents everything that a large community of gamers would like to see in a game. The other is a living breathing game in late stages of development. The two are not comparable.
Gah.. I just fell into the trap!
As someone who fancies themselves neutral and realistic in expectations, i keep looking over the darkfall promises and the devs they have. And i just don't see how they can possibly pull it off. If a company as big as funcom had to cut so much content... you do the math.
I couldn't have said it better myself, and lets not forget at the end of the day THEY'RE VIDEO GAMES!!*jeezez*
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Darkfall fans do not realize that vaporware is a way for people to take money from investors without doing any work. It’s illegal but easy to get away with.
The guys who made the Phantom console stole about 20 mil from investors.
I’m not saying Darkfall is a money scam, but it could be. There is no proof at all that this game is even being made.