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Is Runecape all that bad? (please don't just dismiss this topic read first.)

Please read this. I also have included a poll. I'm sorry if a topic like this has been posted previously haven't been on in a while

Okay so my friend recently got back into runescape and i thought you can't be serious. But then i decided to try it out again and see how it had changed. I realised as i was playing that after all the games i have played is runescape really all that bad.

The runescape community has millions of accounts and over 100,000-200,000 people playing each and everyday. It is huge. The game was never made to be fancy with fantastic graphics like WoW or EQ and so on, it was meant to be game for low budget or "crap" computers although some people tried it anyway. The game requires no disk installation and or patching/downloading it is run entirly from your internet browser. This makes it not only convient but also means that you can play with dial-up unlike other downloaded games.

Graphics wise it really isn't all that bad. The graphics are 3D and are not all that poor. If you look at some of the other F2P games with no downloads like ogre island Runescape really doesn't look so bad. The grahics recently have been updated so they looks somewhat better. Games like AO and Eudemeons that have huge downloads although the graphics are somewhat more advanced and detailed they are still based on the same original 3D graphics.

The size of the runescape world is huge. Free players have a number of fun quests and a huge area to explore filled with lots of items, special events for christmas and easter etc and minigames. REcently added features including clan wars and the duel arena have made the pvp part of the game somewhat more open and intresting. With the addition of clan wars proper clans can also be formed. The members area is even larger atleast  3-4x the free player area. With this comes over 50-100 quests completly new sets of armour even more minigames and the PVP is yet again enhanced. (I aploigise if this sounds like an advert) 

The gameplay of the game (skills, fighting etc) is pretty good. The games fighting where you chose the target and your charatcer attacks it is pretty much the same as almost every other MMORPG. The skills system is i believe quite good as you chose what skills you like the best out some 20 skills and can chose to train anynumber of them if not all of them your lvl doesn't determine the skills you can chose but your skills (in the combat selection of skills) determines your lvl. This means you can be a mager, a ranger or a melee fighter or all three with your choice of weapon type Unlike Wow where you have to chose your class. Runescape offers a much more open choice. Should you get sick of combat you can swap to a different form of combat. Weapons also have different styles of attacking e.g. chopping, hacking, smashing etc..) you have the choice of running walking and with higher mage skills teleporting to different areas. you have  lots of different choices of making money whether by selling logs to be made into bows, Fishing and cooking, mining ad smithing, selling herbs, seling arrows and bows, theiving from NPCs, killing things, selling runes and so on.

I could go on but i won't. Please post back and give your opinions

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Comments

  • caemsgcaemsg Member Posts: 105

    personally i would not call runescape "bad" many people have attached a label to it because it is free to play and because it is so easy to access a large proportion of what i have seen of the player base is immature and (going off personal experiences here ) pretty stupid and easy to bait

    runescape is not a bad game but i think its playerbase ruins it quite a bit

  • darkgamerxdarkgamerx Member Posts: 311

    Runescape is like porn... people dont like admitting they like it.

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359

    Runescape had some really good points before  Jagex killed it. Now yes I would have to say it is that bad. they have taken away the player freedoms that made the game stand out from the rest. By limiting trade they have done away with helping your friends, giving gifts, and being able to give free stuff to new players. They have crippled their pvp with the removal of the wilderness and removal of gambling in the duel arena. The rules are so bad that it appears their entire community is depressed. They will ban your account without cause  because the report abuse features are so misused and they make scammers into player moderators that use the abuse features just to shut up people they ripped off.  Even though they said that all of these terrible updates were supposed to be ridding the game of real  world trading it did not, that is still very much going on  they are just logging on to peoples accounts and giving them the gold that way and selling fully loaded accounts. Hackers are still running rampant and the game has been crippled.  The skills are  insanely boring and repetitive and without reward for you levels. The game is a bunch of boring waiting for everything to happen. You click on rock wait to get ore  then wait for it to respawn, then when you finally get the levels to get to mine runite .. the rocks take forever to mine then like an hour to respawn so you would have to hop to every world on the game just to get a full load.  When you get to chop magics it takes so long to get a log that your charcater will most likely log out before it happens, so players choose not to chop them at all even after they have earned the ability to do so.  When you max out a skill to 99 the only reward you get is s tupid skill cape that only makes everyone follow you around harrassing you to do silly emotes ..   Harrassment is a punishment not a reward. The combat system is so messed up that when you max stats it makes you easier to kill rather than stronger. A player with  spiked stats  will  be more effective in battle  even  if all of the players stats are the highest they can be. There is no wasd movement and it doesn;t take much skill to fight.  In fact there isn;t much skill or thought needed to play this game at all .. just mindless clicking. Though there is a chat filter on the game you have more spamming on that game than any other game I have played. The community is sad, and so is the game at this point.

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    Runescape had some really good points before  Jagex killed it. Now yes I would have to say it is that bad. they have taken away the player freedoms that made the game stand out from the rest. By limiting trade they have done away with helping your friends, giving gifts, and being able to give free stuff to new players. They have crippled their pvp with the removal of the wilderness and removal of gambling in the duel arena. The rules are so bad that it appears their entire community is depressed. They will ban your account without cause  because the report abuse features are so misused and they make scammers into player moderators that use the abuse features just to shut up people they ripped off.  Even though they said that all of these terrible upodates were supposed to be ridding the game of real  world trading it did not, that is still very much goiong on  they are just logging on to peoples accounts and giving them the gold that way and selling fully loaded accounts. Hackers are still running rampant and the game has been crippled.  The skills are  insanely boring and repetitive and without reward for you levels. The game is a bunch of boring waiting for everything to happen. You click on rock wait to get ore  then wait for it to respawn, then when you finally get the levels to get to mine runite .. the rocks take forever to mine then like an hour to respawn so you would have to hop to every world on the game just to get a full load.  When you get to chop magics it takes so long to get a log that your charcater will most likely log out before it happens, so players choose not to chop them at all even after they have earned the ability to do so.  When you max out a skill to 99 the only reward you get is s tupid skill cape that only makes everyone follow you around harrassing you to do silly emotes ..   Harrassment is a punishment not a reward. The combat system is so messed up that when you max stats it makes you easier to kill rather than stronger. A player with  spiked stats  will  be more effective in battle  even  if all of the players stats are the highest they can be. There is no wasd movement and it doesn;t take much skill to fight.  In fact there isn;t much skill or thought needed to play this game at all .. just mindless clicking. Though there is a chat filter on the game you have more spamming on that game than any other game I have played. The community is sad, and so is the game at this point.

    What she said.

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  • CeredwynnCeredwynn Member Posts: 124

    Originally posted by darkgamerx


    Runescape is like porn... people dont like admitting they like it.

    hah not if you know the many people i know. aside from getting high, they're past time hobby is bashing the game. ofcourse being the logic people that we are... lol we've all played it and yeah there are some interesting aspects to the game, but it is to harsh on many other aspects aside from the obvious. i would say that its 2008 and as the days past the game in my opinion becomes that much more dated. i may not speak for the people that enjoy the game, but for me and the people that dont. i find it to be one of the worst games i've ever played. from when it came til now.

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  • YakriYakri Member Posts: 30

    While some of the stuff deviliscious  mentioned at the end was either intended or part of the game from its conception. deviliscious  is right essencially, they killed everything that was fun and good about the game in just a couple patches, the idiots.

     

    The only reason i played runescape was that i liked the PvP and some of the other activitys that could be done with more then one person. Then they, in essence, just deleted their old and very good PvP system and put this piece of crap system in.

     

    And they of course had another genious idea, "hey guys, lets stop players from being able to give each other things for free! i wonder why no other MMORPG's have employed this ingenious tactic before?" 

    And if you have played the game, you will know how i felt when the day after i spent 12 hours grinding our the last two magic levels to get 85 magic and teleblock, only to have them remove the spell from the game, and have them add a nifty "kill yourself NOW" button.

     

    Meh, it used to be my favorite MMO, now, in my opinion its totally worthless, hopefully it'll tank and teach the dev's a lesson.

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  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527


    Originally posted by Yakri
    And they of course had another genious idea, "hey guys, lets stop players from being able to give each other things for free! i wonder why no other MMORPG's have employed this ingenious tactic before?"


    I agree. The game was fantastic for many years, despite the graphics. It was accessible, it was cheap (or even free, if you weren't ready for the new content yet) and there was plenty to do. In fact, there was so much content, I played for years and years and still didn't come anywhere close to finishing. The game was great and had something for everyone. The problem with the game is Jagex. They are clueless to what the players want, they do no testing or QA to speak of, and often push updates without even thinking of the consequences. This whole crusade against gold-buying is a fantastic idea, but they need to just stop. They're killing themselves with the effort, and they aren't really accomplishing anything.

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396

    The funny thing is, that in a recent interview, they said that their way was the the way to go.  They stated that their way of trading is the future of MMO's.  This is funny, becuase I don't see any other big time MMO's doing this.  The only reason that RuneScape even has players is because of the little children that go on Miniclip. 

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  • AirspellAirspell Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,391

      The game is crap only if you compare it to client based programs, if you compare it to browser games it isn't so bad :) 

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  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

  • demonicdemondemonicdemon Member Posts: 150
    Originally posted by Yakri
     The only reason i played runescape was that i liked the PvP and some of the other activitys that could be done with more then one person. Then they, in essence, just deleted their old and very good PvP system and put this piece of crap system in.
     
    And they of course had another genious idea, "hey guys, lets stop players from being able to give each other things for free! i wonder why no other MMORPG's have employed this ingenious tactic before?" 
    And if you have played the game, you will know how i felt when the day after i spent 12 hours grinding our the last two magic levels to get 85 magic and teleblock, only to have them remove the spell from the game, and have them add a nifty "kill yourself NOW" button.
     
    Meh, it used to be my favorite MMO, now, in my opinion its totally worthless, hopefully it'll tank and teach the dev's a lesson.
     
     



    I have to agree that most certaintly they screwed up a fantastic PvP system. The wildy was one of the reasons i first started playing. Also the trade restriction was pretty stupid. Really i think there is no way they are goining to completly eradicat real world trading. However the game isn't completely dead there is still a fair amount of worthwhile activities, minigames etc  that are fun. You can still stake in Duel arena and they now have more pvp minigames that although are not nearly as good as the wildy are still somewhat fun. I think really what jagex needs to do is listen to their player base more and not just members give the F2P a say. maybe it'll come back but at the moment i do agree it isn't nearly as good as it used to be.

    take what you can but not what isn't yours. "fight to the end and never give your enemy the satisfaction of victory"

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,486
    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Airspell


      The game is crap only if you compare it to client based programs, if you compare it to browser games it isn't so bad :) 

    The whole point is you should be able to compare any game to any game ever made to determine how good  the game is ... If more companies did that we would have alot better games available to us than what we currently have to deal with. They need to stop putting out substandard nonsense and ruining the games that were good to begin with and give gamers what they really want. If  devs would make a game that did that  there would be no reason to play any other game lol.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

    You haven't done Runescape quests, eh?

  • Rob_dc84Rob_dc84 Member Posts: 149

    runescape........ LOL!!! dear god it still running.

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

    You haven't done Runescape quests, eh?



    I have done every quest in runescape .. it was more like a chore than enjoyment. The quetsts are not very good in comparision to other mmorpgs. Even Guild wars quests have more to offer. sorry kid I think you missed the bus on that one.

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by goreesha


    I will definitely agree with you that Runescape is better than Ogre Island. But that is like saying a dish of diarrhea tastes better than a pint of cancer.

    I lol'ed. So true.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,486
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

    You haven't done Runescape quests, eh?

    I have, I've played almost every stinkin MMO out there. Runescape was one of the first.

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  • AkaJetsonAkaJetson Member Posts: 1,167
    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

    You haven't done Runescape quests, eh?

    I have, I've played almost every stinkin MMO out there. Runescape was one of the first.



    I think hes tryin to  say that the quests are good in the way that they arent kill X bears then the quest is over.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,486
    Originally posted by AkaJetson

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Runescape has the best quests I've found in a MMO.

    HAHAHAHA!! you haven't played very many MMOS then eh?

    You haven't done Runescape quests, eh?

    I have, I've played almost every stinkin MMO out there. Runescape was one of the first.



    I think hes tryin to  say that the quests are good in the way that they arent kill X bears then the quest is over.

    Yeah it's far from a free Korean browser grind game if that's what he means. Stacked against most other browser games it's good I guess.

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  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    it was a actually a good game before they destroyed it SOE style.

    ive had many enjoyable times in that game.  all its redeeming features have been taken away now tho.

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  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Consensus


    it was a actually a good game before they destroyed it SOE style.
    ive had many enjoyable times in that game.  all its redeeming features have been taken away now tho.



    Mhm....JaGeX, the next SOE!!

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