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How is the game post 20?

Achaiah191Achaiah191 Member Posts: 12

I have played eq2 several times, but haven't got past 22 before, I heard from people that after 20 its too hard to solo quest anymore. Is it forced grouping to get past those levels? I like the OPTION to solo if I want to, not be forced to party. I like partying, but forced to party sucks.

So in your opinion, is there a lot of forced grouping?

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  • miconamicona Member UncommonPosts: 677

    you can solo way beyond your 20's it all depends how fast your class can do it , some classes are slower than others but keep in mind your gear has to be inpar with your level to solo well.

    priests are slower than monks bruisers for exemple and necro conjurer have no prob soloing pretty fast

    too.

    overall it all depends at what pace you wanna do it , but with AA some benefit on the solo side .

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870

    It has probably been 2 years since they made it more solo friendly past lvl 20.  Nowadays you can solo all the way up to 80 if you want.

  • BBlackfordBBlackford Member Posts: 24

    I'm not too good with grouping, my focus changes often and I enjoy going my own way - so I had the same thoughts when I began EQ2 as well...

    It was really easy to make levels up to 20 (I was amazed how much I leveled within one week of playing), afterwards - it'll slow down a bit but there's nothing considerably hard about soloing. As long as you're in the right area for your level you should be fine.

    - Ding im bot! -

  • diknakdiknak Member Posts: 70

    If you get in a good group, you will find the xp is much better than soloing, but there are still tons and tons of quests for solo post level 20.  If you would have asked this question at launch, I would have said that you were screwed if you wanted to solo after 20, but now, that is hardly the case.

  • fozzie22fozzie22 Member Posts: 1,003

    The game at launch was certainly more of a challenge thats for sure as soloing wasnt much of an option back in the day but now its easy to get certainly to level 70 within a few weeks depending on how often you play.

     

    Quests are the way to go though as they give lots of nice AA as well as xp

  • diknakdiknak Member Posts: 70

    Originally posted by fozzie22


    The game at launch was certainly more of a challenge thats for sure
    Understatement of the century.  This is not even just concerning soloing abilities.  Subcombines for tradeskillers.  Shared group debt.  Spirit Shards.  Lack of good quest rewards. etc etc.

    I have to say though, the only thing that I wish was still in the game was the spirit shards.  It added a lot more to the risk/reward concept.  I think it should have been modified, not removed.

  • eccotoneccoton Member UncommonPosts: 1,340

    I am a solo player you can solo all the way to 80. You miss out on some stuff but unlike WoW you do not feel like a 2nd class citizen if you solo.

  • miconamicona Member UncommonPosts: 677

    I played from launch and tbh the game has been nerfed more times than i can remember specially crafting , then came death penalities : is their any anymore ?? , nope

    Even travelling now , portals , carpets , spires , etc ... heck even horses in Gfay etc ...

    I still love the game more than most mmo's out there but i just hate when dev dumb down a game like eq2 was hit , to please the crowd nowadays .

    * I remember when i was scared to die in everquest 1 , you were way more careful in playing your character , that just an example i may be old school but i like to have a challenge and not just level and grind my way to top level .

  • AcaeusAcaeus Member Posts: 193

    30 is the new 20.

    In other words, what you describe is what I felt when my Warlock hit 30s. Man! The difference in the rate of progression from the 10s, to the 20's, and then finally to the 30's is so dramatic it's not even funny.

    That's why WoW is the popular game (no, I don't play WoW).

    however, the most annoying thing IMO about EQ2 is the questing system. In WoW (to put it in perspective) you've got long, but fewer quests that give you meaningful rewards (specially exp wise). In EQ2, you've got many quests that give you little reward (specially exp wise). In the end, I end up not even following the lore of the quests.

    BTW, I'm not playing any MMO at the moment (as my EQ2 subscription ended yesterday).

  • vickypollardvickypollard Member Posts: 305

    Well you wont ever get a group at that level anymore so you'll be solo grinding in the most boring zones ever made!

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870

    Originally posted by vickypollard


    Well you wont ever get a group at that level anymore so you'll be solo grinding in the most boring zones ever made!

    You do know the difference between the words Post and Pre before a sentence don't you.  Little lesson for you; post means AFTER and if you think that nobody can get a group after level 20 then your seriously kidding yourself.

  • LondonMagusLondonMagus Member Posts: 700

     

    Originally posted by Achaiah191


    I have played eq2 several times, but haven't got past 22 before, I heard from people that after 20 its too hard to solo quest anymore. Is it forced grouping to get past those levels? I like the OPTION to solo if I want to, not be forced to party. I like partying, but forced to party sucks.
    So in your opinion, is there a lot of forced grouping?



    I usually end up soloing as I am in the UK timezone & can only play for an hour or so most days. So far there have only been a few quests where I was forced to find a group, most notably to get the 'Flying Carpet' in 'Desert of Flames' where my excellent guild were happy to help out.

     

    I have quite a few alts above level 20 in a variety of classes & haven't really had problems soloing with any of them. My Necro is the easiest & at Level 67 is currently enjoying the excellent solo content in Kunark , but I also have a Level 50 Wizard that is also great at soloing.

    If you haven't got past Level 22 before, then you have lots of great solo friendly content to look forward to.

    If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  • almagillalmagill Member Posts: 279

    Originally posted by Acaeus


    30 is the new 20.

     

     

    Fifty is the new twenty!! ;)

    I've pretty much soloed my 'zerker up to 60 and it's true, the rate of progress really does tail off as you get higher up.  But at 50? Ouch, it felt like I came to a complete halt for a while.

    Re-equipped my guy, armour, spells, the lot. Rejigged his skills and AA's (thanks to the free respec tokens they NPC in the tower gives) and from 55 on it's been steady progress again.

    Starting a new character in the RoK newbie zone, or running an existing lowbie in there to level, will get you from 0 - 20 in a couple of play sessions. Needless to say, after that anything feels like a major slowdown.

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  • BlackWatchBlackWatch Member UncommonPosts: 972

    Levelling in EQ2 has come a long, long way, imho.  I started EQ2 at launch and have come/gone several times.  Each time I've been back, the game seems to have improved.   I made it from 18-35 in about 5 days, playing 3 hours a night.  That's about a level an hour or so.  And I could've/should've gone faster. 

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  • fozzie22fozzie22 Member Posts: 1,003
    Originally posted by almagill


     
    Originally posted by Acaeus


    30 is the new 20.

     

     

     

    Fifty is the new twenty!! ;)

    I've pretty much soloed my 'zerker up to 60 and it's true, the rate of progress really does tail off as you get higher up.  But at 50? Ouch, it felt like I came to a complete halt for a while.

    Re-equipped my guy, armour, spells, the lot. Rejigged his skills and AA's (thanks to the free respec tokens they NPC in the tower gives) and from 55 on it's been steady progress again.

    Starting a new character in the RoK newbie zone, or running an existing lowbie in there to level, will get you from 0 - 20 in a couple of play sessions. Needless to say, after that anything feels like a major slowdown.

    Hehe pretty much the same thing has happened to my wife with her Wizzy..flew all the way with me until she hit 68 and its been pretty tough going for her (she doesnt like to group,had a few bad times in WOW and just wont do it anymore) but she hit 70 on saturday and things are moving in the right direction again for her.

  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984

    Originally posted by almagill


     
    Originally posted by Acaeus


    30 is the new 20.

     

     

     

    Fifty is the new twenty!! ;)

    I've pretty much soloed my 'zerker up to 60 and it's true, the rate of progress really does tail off as you get higher up.  But at 50? Ouch, it felt like I came to a complete halt for a while.

    Re-equipped my guy, armour, spells, the lot. Rejigged his skills and AA's (thanks to the free respec tokens they NPC in the tower gives) and from 55 on it's been steady progress again.

    Starting a new character in the RoK newbie zone, or running an existing lowbie in there to level, will get you from 0 - 20 in a couple of play sessions. Needless to say, after that anything feels like a major slowdown.

    80 is the new 1.

     

    While it is a bit harder to solo with a warlock you can level from 1 to 80 without a single grind kill, just by doing quests and finish collections. And thats solo, without grouping once for a dungeon.  Warlocks only problem is that his roots break at 15% chance and ticking DoTs speed that up. Other that that there is no slowdown till 80.

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    Originally posted by almagill


     
    Originally posted by Acaeus


    30 is the new 20.

     

     

     

    Fifty is the new twenty!! ;)

    I've pretty much soloed my 'zerker up to 60 and it's true, the rate of progress really does tail off as you get higher up.  But at 50? Ouch, it felt like I came to a complete halt for a while.

    Re-equipped my guy, armour, spells, the lot. Rejigged his skills and AA's (thanks to the free respec tokens they NPC in the tower gives) and from 55 on it's been steady progress again.

    Starting a new character in the RoK newbie zone, or running an existing lowbie in there to level, will get you from 0 - 20 in a couple of play sessions. Needless to say, after that anything feels like a major slowdown.

     

    50 is tough, LF is ok, but runs out fo content quickly.  TT is the same for mid 50’s. That means you are stuck for ~5 levels in the terrible DoF zones.  

     

    Starting at ~33 you can be doing quests in Steamfont with an occasional trip to do the abundant but bland quests in EL/Zek.  The latter two are nothing to write home about but Steamfont has some of the best solo content in any MMO ever. 
  • quaikyquaiky Member Posts: 566

    not sure why everyone hates the dof zones for leveling. they have a few good questlines a lot of them can be soloed too. i personally prefer doing the quests there over doing the same repeatable quests in TT over and over. If you combine them with LF and later on with a bit TT then you should have enough to do to level from 50-60.

    (i don't want to say dof was a great expansion it was lacking in a lot points, but questlines were one of the betetr points there)

     

    i personally still hate 20-30 most when i have to solo, i somehow just don't like the butcherblock questlines (cannot really say why but maybe thats also just cause i allready soloed 20 levels and want to group more again), and nf & ts are not really great for soloing too. so i really try to get from 20-30 by grouping in SH, FG and Rov.

  • AesperAesper Member UncommonPosts: 90

    You can definitely solo past 20, but (especially around 40) grouping in dungeons is extremely fun. Personally I would much rather be in a good group than running the eternal questathon.

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