AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Wharg0ul
I just want to chime in here that this weekend, we've seen 1/100th (random fraction out of the air) of what the game has to offer. Just a little taste. Yes, there are "rumors" of things not being in the game, but if any of you bothered to check the official forums, you'd realise that they are just that....rumors. Things like spellweaving, DX 10, etc, ARE in-game. There's no conspiracy...FC isn't "hiding" anything because they're afraid.....the NDA is still in place because they don't want the game experience to be ruined. Kind of (as I've said before) wrapping paper on a gift. Mark my words....three months after release, people will realise how idiotic all this speculative nay-saying and rumor-milling really are.
Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
I just want to chime in here that this weekend, we've seen 1/100th (random fraction out of the air) of what the game has to offer. Just a little taste. Yes, there are "rumors" of things not being in the game, but if any of you bothered to check the official forums, you'd realise that they are just that....rumors. Things like spellweaving, DX 10, etc, ARE in-game. There's no conspiracy...FC isn't "hiding" anything because they're afraid.....the NDA is still in place because they don't want the game experience to be ruined. Kind of (as I've said before) wrapping paper on a gift. Mark my words....three months after release, people will realise how idiotic all this speculative nay-saying and rumor-milling really are.
Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
or maybe cause when someone makes a friggen negative comment they get banned for trolling. Seriously. I made 1 comment about how the preorder was having issues as well as the downloader and i get a friggen ban for trolling. Wonder how much this site was bought and paid for by funcom.....other than the 24/7 banner on the top regarding the blog and constant adds.
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AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by faunus
or maybe cause when someone makes a friggen negative comment they get banned for trolling. Seriously. I made 1 comment about how the preorder was having issues as well as the downloader and i get a friggen ban for trolling. Wonder how much this site was bought and paid for by funcom.....other than the 24/7 banner on the top regarding the blog and constant adds.
Wow thats so far from the truth... You know that mmorpg.com didnt list any official videos from August to end novemember last year. Then you wonder why people say this game has no coverage or poor coverage. Open Beta announcement does not get put on the front page but the Elf Online music update did! or could it be the lotro online 3 seperate updates.
I just want to chime in here that this weekend, we've seen 1/100th (random fraction out of the air) of what the game has to offer. Just a little taste. Yes, there are "rumors" of things not being in the game, but if any of you bothered to check the official forums, you'd realise that they are just that....rumors. Things like spellweaving, DX 10, etc, ARE in-game. There's no conspiracy...FC isn't "hiding" anything because they're afraid.....the NDA is still in place because they don't want the game experience to be ruined. Kind of (as I've said before) wrapping paper on a gift. Mark my words....three months after release, people will realise how idiotic all this speculative nay-saying and rumor-milling really are.
Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
or maybe cause when someone makes a friggen negative comment they get banned for trolling. Seriously. I made 1 comment about how the preorder was having issues as well as the downloader and i get a friggen ban for trolling. Wonder how much this site was bought and paid for by funcom.....other than the 24/7 banner on the top regarding the blog and constant adds.
The game is not very innovative as some are claiming. Yes the combat system has a few differences, but ultimately it changes nothing. It is not a "WoW clone" by any means, but it definitely isnt going to change the face of MMOs either. TCoS and Darkfall are the only combat systems that seem to be on the horizon that are truly trying something out of the box in terms of combat, but there are of course problems surrounding both of those games as well. Thanks
Why does it need to "CHANGE THE FACE OF MMOs" to be fun? Why does a MMO get tagged with 'FAIL' if it isn't revolutionary?
It's not WoW, as you admit, and really, that's all that matters. That, and it's fun. If it's a good game, and fun, it will be more than "moderately" successful. And it doesn't need to hit WoW 2008 numbers to be successful.
If you're looking for revolutionary, and maybe Darkfall is that game, you better be prepared to wait 5-10 years. Because there is no 'revolutionary' game "on the horizon." Darkfall is so far off the horizon, it might as well be in orbit.
The reason people want a revolutionary game is because currently the MMO market is bland. No one wants more WoW clones; there's already a perfectly viable and well polished MMO that caters to that form of game play. If there's already a 'perfect' version out there, then for a MMO to be truly successful they need to launch a game that is in fact revolutionary or at least noticably evolutionary. Why play a game that is barely fresh and new, and still riddled with issues (I know for a fact there's LOTS to work out still), when you can play a game that's currently a well polished and successful model candidate.
Personally, I hate WoW. I'm also personally totally unimpressed with AoC and how it's turned out; I realize there's still a month left for change, but Gaute said it's only polish at this point. At this point TCoS, WAR or Aion are looking mighty nice in comparison.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
I seldom post here but after reading some of this thread i feel utterly discusted. Im no fan boi of this game but come on it DOES have innovation in terms of combat model. People saying stuff like "it's not innovative, mounted combat was in ultima online" need to get his head exsamined seriously. How can you compair a sprite game with a 3d one its not even remotly close to be in the same league in difficulty to implement. If you knew anything about coding you would know the hurdles in such a move and why other gamedevelopers have avoided mounted combat. Clearly funcom has manage to do something other developers have failed to do. And to write it off as done when your compairison is Ulitma is laughable.
Half of the critisism here is just stupid. IF you need to make compairisons atleast try to do proper compairisons with relesed games, not games that has not been relesed or is using 2d engines.
There are a lot of innovative things still untested such as: Unique crafting. (Architects that build cities/houses, and only crafted armor/weapons can be slotted for gems which gemcutters create causing crafted weapons/armors and gems to be far more valuable then dropped items.) City sieges.
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state ,
The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
<blockquote><i>Originally posted by coma</i> <br><b><p>Honestly I didnt liked it. too many 8 year olds </p></b></blockquote> <br>
That's hardly suprising given the nature of the event.
Obviously the M rating will not keep all the kids nor the 18+ immature people out, judging the future community by this gamespot thingy is a little premature though.
There are a lot of innovative things still untested such as: Unique crafting. (Architects that build cities/houses, and only crafted armor/weapons can be slotted for gems which gemcutters create causing crafted weapons/armors and gems to be far more valuable then dropped items.) City sieges.
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state , The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
sigh
see this is why i wonder if people have even played other MMOs, are fanbois, or just a little slow.
maybe this was a waste of my time if some dont even care to read posts.
enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point.
edit: and way to choose to respond to the part of my post that has nothing to do with the features of the game, just my experience vs yours that you claim to have. and ignore the fact that you blindly claim certain features to be "innovative" but have been squashed by me and another poster. city sieges...omg no one has even done that....being able to build houses and player cities....yea totally new
hehe darkfall aye well good luck bud you will never see that vaporware rofl. and why should we trust your judgement or anyone's for that matter
i look at screenshot's and watch vid's and if i like it i fork down the 50$. if i get bored i move on. dont waste my time telling people to play this or that just play what i want to jeez.
There are a lot of innovative things still untested such as: Unique crafting. (Architects that build cities/houses, and only crafted armor/weapons can be slotted for gems which gemcutters create causing crafted weapons/armors and gems to be far more valuable then dropped items.) City sieges.
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state , The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
sigh
see this is why i wonder if people have even played other MMOs, are fanbois, or just a little slow.
maybe this was a waste of my time if some dont even care to read posts.
enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point.
edit: and way to choose to respond to the part of my post that has nothing to do with the features of the game, just my experience vs yours that you claim to have. and ignore the fact that you blindly claim certain features to be "innovative" but have been squashed by me and another poster. city sieges...omg no one has even done that....being able to build houses and player cities....yea totally new
If that's how you feel that's just how you feel. What I don't get is why are you getting so upset over the fact that people are disagreeing with you. Saying "enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point." Almost sounds like you are throwing a tantrum, because you feel you have been slighted. Just because you don't find something innovative doesn't mean someone else can't. You aren't the definitive word on what "is" or "isn't". Hell I think Eve-Online is one of the most boring and worse games on the planet. Does that make it true for everyone?
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hehe darkfall aye well good luck bud you will never see that vaporware rofl. and why should we trust your judgement or anyone's for that matter i look at screenshot's and watch vid's and if i like it i fork down the 50$. if i get bored i move on. dont waste my time telling people to play this or that just play what i want to jeez.
lol way to have the point go completely over your head...some people....maybe i should have said i would rather go back and play WoW then this game
not saying you need to trust my judgement over anyone elses, was just simply offering my opinion
question you should ask yourself is why are you and others so quick to attack and get defensive against what was a very objective review that actually said AoC was going to be a success and not fail like some of the naysayers have been trolling?
i could make another post about darkfall but it would be a waste of time
some troll randomly picked a line in my op and instead of adding anything to the conversation, decided to just attack for some reason. however it was my mistake to even bother to respond to him and sink to his level. and possibly make this thread at all.
nothing went over my head bud i was just simply stateing darkfall has broke promise after promise and has never produced.
and im not defending anything about aoc just saying if i like something i play it and if you dont move on its not that hard try it sometime lol. no game will ever be the greatest game or please everyone.
you didnt like it that is fine some wont some will others will play cause there is nothing else. that's the way it happen's in gameing.
roin, throwing a tantrum? are you serious? some troll randomly picked a line in my op and instead of adding anything to the conversation, decided to just attack for some reason. however it was my mistake to even bother to respond to him and sink to his level. and possibly make this thread at all.
Your posts on this page alone show you are the most defensive person in this thread -
I simply pointed out that you are trying to tell people what the game is like and yet you haven't played it one second in beta and thus have to rely on them - so why should we care what you say your friends say ?
There was no attack - it was a pointing out the fact that you are basing your opinions purely on your inner circle of wise men -
Yes , this post and your others on this page easily show you are the troll , the defensive one , and the tantrum thrower
actually yes, it went WAY over your head, and since it did you wouldnt be aware of it obviously.
gl with AoC. I tried to offer an objective opinion and i definitely got through to the non fanbois who were able to read my OP without bias, but I am not going to bother dealing with trolls on a forum since this thread has degraded into just that.
Will still keep an eye on the game, as i said it can be very successfull, but will definitely not be pre-ordering and only buying after release and solid reviews.
no, there really isn't anything 'major' new in AoC... But that doesn't mean it is a clone of x game or identical to every other MMO that has ever come out either.
The issue is whether they will work better than their predicessors or not. Yah, city seiging existed in SB, but it was buggy as hell and you could lose cities to exploits and you were helpless to stop them (centuars being able to run though locked doors, druids bugging through walls, being able to fly with no fly spires up)
Yah, people have done battle keeps and such, but none have done it in such an open enviroment (DAoC used a RvRvR concept, not open PvP)
Yah, PvP Arenas have been done, big deal that is a minor thing and been done by alot of people
Noone has successfuly integrated a 'non target' combat system that wasn't bunny hop hell
I think they are on the right track with AoC, is it perfect? no, but they seem to have taken alot of good pieces about several games in the past and put them together in a logical and working system.
I honestly think this will be the first time anyone has taken a full on PvP game, integrated a solid crafting system (where crafters actually are worth a damn), integrated player cities and has seige warfare.
actually yes, it went WAY over your head, and since it did you wouldnt be aware of it obviously. gl with AoC. I tried to offer an objective opinion and i definitely got through to the non fanbois who were able to read my OP without bias, but I am not going to bother dealing with trolls on a forum since this thread has degraded into just that. Will still keep an eye on the game, as i said it can be very successfull, but will definitely not be pre-ordering and only buying after release and solid reviews. Thanks
I enjoyed your review and found it to be quite objective. Its funny all the people acting like you were attacking the game when in your OP you actually painted it in a favorable light and as someone else pointed out really skipped any negatives you found in the game..
As to the PVP beta weekend I was also in it and found the game enjoyable but saw nothing that innovative in the small pvp portion I was aloud to experience. Hopefully I will be proven wrong when the full game is released and I can experience it as a whole.
What matters most isn't if it'll 'change the face of MMOGs as we know it.' Or.. it's end game content is 100% polished and amazing on day 1, or if it's completely bug free. What matters.. is if it's fun.
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Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
or maybe cause when someone makes a friggen negative comment they get banned for trolling. Seriously. I made 1 comment about how the preorder was having issues as well as the downloader and i get a friggen ban for trolling. Wonder how much this site was bought and paid for by funcom.....other than the 24/7 banner on the top regarding the blog and constant adds.
<-- Miagi's alt cause god forbid you don't conform to the masses and have legitimate questions
Wow thats so far from the truth... You know that mmorpg.com didnt list any official videos from August to end novemember last year. Then you wonder why people say this game has no coverage or poor coverage. Open Beta announcement does not get put on the front page but the Elf Online music update did! or could it be the lotro online 3 seperate updates.
Dam right, what i've been saying for a long time now. 30 days to go can't wait. The doomers have already stopped posting frequently and disappeared more or less around here. Funny that.
AoC is not some holy grail like other games pretend to be. It has all the making for a very good game that offers alot of the seen before stuff repackaged in a new way. Real time combat and active blocking on mounts for example has not been done before.
or maybe cause when someone makes a friggen negative comment they get banned for trolling. Seriously. I made 1 comment about how the preorder was having issues as well as the downloader and i get a friggen ban for trolling. Wonder how much this site was bought and paid for by funcom.....other than the 24/7 banner on the top regarding the blog and constant adds.
Didnt you get banned from the IGN AoC boards too?
-Jive
i dont belong to IGN boards. In fact...i didn't even know there was a set of forums there.
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It's not WoW, as you admit, and really, that's all that matters. That, and it's fun. If it's a good game, and fun, it will be more than "moderately" successful. And it doesn't need to hit WoW 2008 numbers to be successful.
If you're looking for revolutionary, and maybe Darkfall is that game, you better be prepared to wait 5-10 years. Because there is no 'revolutionary' game "on the horizon." Darkfall is so far off the horizon, it might as well be in orbit.
The reason people want a revolutionary game is because currently the MMO market is bland. No one wants more WoW clones; there's already a perfectly viable and well polished MMO that caters to that form of game play. If there's already a 'perfect' version out there, then for a MMO to be truly successful they need to launch a game that is in fact revolutionary or at least noticably evolutionary. Why play a game that is barely fresh and new, and still riddled with issues (I know for a fact there's LOTS to work out still), when you can play a game that's currently a well polished and successful model candidate.Personally, I hate WoW. I'm also personally totally unimpressed with AoC and how it's turned out; I realize there's still a month left for change, but Gaute said it's only polish at this point. At this point TCoS, WAR or Aion are looking mighty nice in comparison.
I like AoC for its lack of rainbows and lollipops
Half of the critisism here is just stupid. IF you need to make compairisons atleast try to do proper compairisons with relesed games, not games that has not been relesed or is using 2d engines
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Honestly I didnt liked it. too many 8 year olds
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state ,
The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
<blockquote><i>Originally posted by coma</i>
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<br><b><p>Honestly I didnt liked it. too many 8 year olds
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That's hardly suprising given the nature of the event.
Obviously the M rating will not keep all the kids nor the 18+ immature people out, judging the future community by this gamespot thingy is a little premature though.
You won't like the graphics either, too dark for you, It doesnt look like WoW's wonderful colourful cartoon chars and landscape I'm afraid
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And no elves!
lol WoW fanboi!
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state , The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
sigh
see this is why i wonder if people have even played other MMOs, are fanbois, or just a little slow.
maybe this was a waste of my time if some dont even care to read posts.
enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point.
edit: and way to choose to respond to the part of my post that has nothing to do with the features of the game, just my experience vs yours that you claim to have. and ignore the fact that you blindly claim certain features to be "innovative" but have been squashed by me and another poster. city sieges...omg no one has even done that....being able to build houses and player cities....yea totally new
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hehe darkfall aye well good luck bud you will never see that vaporware rofl. and why should we trust your judgement or anyone's for that matter
i look at screenshot's and watch vid's and if i like it i fork down the 50$. if i get bored i move on. dont waste my time telling people to play this or that just play what i want to jeez.
Yea these are not innovative. City Sieges? see shadowbane. Unique Crafting/player houses/cities? see SWG. They may be implemeneted slightly differently, but its still the same.
Oh and my point of judging classes is very different than judging the overall features of the game. The features are known, and wont be changing significantly before launch. Class balance can though.
And like i hinted at...i have a few friends in cb, and without breaking any NDA, I guess you need to just trust me that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the overall "innovation" of the game. These are people who i have been gaming with for 6+ years and i trust their judgement, but then again we could all just be morons.
edit: I tried to keep my review as objective as possible. The main point is that the game won't be an "epiclol failure" like some trolls are claiming. But certainly wont be a groundbreaking MMO either. It will have a decent following and make those involved some decent profit, if they avoid major problems with launching.
Actually no I won't have to trust you as I have more in depth knowledge that you do (I'll let you guess what that is and how) , so I can safely say I disagree with your second hand reporting of the game and it's beta state , The number of "my friends in beta, and says X ,therefore I can predict this game will do Y" posts is amazing
sigh
see this is why i wonder if people have even played other MMOs, are fanbois, or just a little slow.
maybe this was a waste of my time if some dont even care to read posts.
enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point.
edit: and way to choose to respond to the part of my post that has nothing to do with the features of the game, just my experience vs yours that you claim to have. and ignore the fact that you blindly claim certain features to be "innovative" but have been squashed by me and another poster. city sieges...omg no one has even done that....being able to build houses and player cities....yea totally new
If that's how you feel that's just how you feel. What I don't get is why are you getting so upset over the fact that people are disagreeing with you. Saying "enjoy your game buddy, to be honest i would rather give my money to a preorder of darkfall than i would AoC at this point." Almost sounds like you are throwing a tantrum, because you feel you have been slighted. Just because you don't find something innovative doesn't mean someone else can't. You aren't the definitive word on what "is" or "isn't". Hell I think Eve-Online is one of the most boring and worse games on the planet. Does that make it true for everyone?
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
lol way to have the point go completely over your head...some people....maybe i should have said i would rather go back and play WoW then this gamenot saying you need to trust my judgement over anyone elses, was just simply offering my opinion
question you should ask yourself is why are you and others so quick to attack and get defensive against what was a very objective review that actually said AoC was going to be a success and not fail like some of the naysayers have been trolling?
i could make another post about darkfall
but it would be a waste of time
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roin,
throwing a tantrum? are you serious?
some troll randomly picked a line in my op and instead of adding anything to the conversation, decided to just attack for some reason. however it was my mistake to even bother to respond to him and sink to his level. and possibly make this thread at all.
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nothing went over my head bud i was just simply stateing darkfall has broke promise after promise and has never produced.
and im not defending anything about aoc just saying if i like something i play it and if you dont move on its not that hard try it sometime lol. no game will ever be the greatest game or please everyone.
you didnt like it that is fine some wont some will others will play cause there is nothing else. that's the way it happen's in gameing.
Your posts on this page alone show you are the most defensive person in this thread -
I simply pointed out that you are trying to tell people what the game is like and yet you haven't played it one second in beta and thus have to rely on them - so why should we care what you say your friends say ?
There was no attack - it was a pointing out the fact that you are basing your opinions purely on your inner circle of wise men -
Yes , this post and your others on this page easily show you are the troll , the defensive one , and the tantrum thrower
actually yes, it went WAY over your head, and since it did you wouldnt be aware of it obviously.
gl with AoC. I tried to offer an objective opinion and i definitely got through to the non fanbois who were able to read my OP without bias, but I am not going to bother dealing with trolls on a forum since this thread has degraded into just that.
Will still keep an eye on the game, as i said it can be very successfull, but will definitely not be pre-ordering and only buying after release and solid reviews.
Thanks
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no, there really isn't anything 'major' new in AoC... But that doesn't mean it is a clone of x game or identical to every other MMO that has ever come out either.
The issue is whether they will work better than their predicessors or not. Yah, city seiging existed in SB, but it was buggy as hell and you could lose cities to exploits and you were helpless to stop them (centuars being able to run though locked doors, druids bugging through walls, being able to fly with no fly spires up)
Yah, people have done battle keeps and such, but none have done it in such an open enviroment (DAoC used a RvRvR concept, not open PvP)
Yah, PvP Arenas have been done, big deal that is a minor thing and been done by alot of people
Noone has successfuly integrated a 'non target' combat system that wasn't bunny hop hell
I think they are on the right track with AoC, is it perfect? no, but they seem to have taken alot of good pieces about several games in the past and put them together in a logical and working system.
I honestly think this will be the first time anyone has taken a full on PvP game, integrated a solid crafting system (where crafters actually are worth a damn), integrated player cities and has seige warfare.
As to the PVP beta weekend I was also in it and found the game enjoyable but saw nothing that innovative in the small pvp portion I was aloud to experience. Hopefully I will be proven wrong when the full game is released and I can experience it as a whole.
No signature, I don't have a pen
I really wish i could agree we ll see i guess.