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AoC Publisher Sneaks an extra $5 from would-be subscribers

http://www.massively.com/category/new-titles

Man up and say what you mean and mean what you say.  Trying to sneak an extra $5 out of potential ly interested subscribers is beyond cheap; its deceptive.  Chalk another point of interest in the Warhammer column for me.

 

 

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  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


    http://www.massively.com/category/new-titles
    Man up and say what you mean and mean what you say.  Trying to sneak an extra $5 out of potential ly interested subscribers is beyond cheap; its deceptive.  Chalk another point of interest in the Warhammer column for me.
     
     

    And...charging for 10 days added gametime and 3 days headstart is cheating....how again?

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293
    Originally posted by singsofdeath

    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


    http://www.massively.com/category/new-titles
    Man up and say what you mean and mean what you say.  Trying to sneak an extra $5 out of potential ly interested subscribers is beyond cheap; its deceptive.  Chalk another point of interest in the Warhammer column for me.
     
     

    And...charging for 10 days added gametime and 3 days headstart is cheating....how again?

    Heh your common sense isnt going to get through to him.

  • TridianTridian Member UncommonPosts: 273
    Originally posted by singsofdeath

    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


    http://www.massively.com/category/new-titles
    Man up and say what you mean and mean what you say.  Trying to sneak an extra $5 out of potential ly interested subscribers is beyond cheap; its deceptive.  Chalk another point of interest in the Warhammer column for me.
     
     

    And...charging for 10 days added gametime and 3 days headstart is cheating....how again?

    Isn't that a perk of a pre-order though? To get in early and/or an item?

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    Not cheating, genius. No one said anything about cheating, to the bright (cough) poster above.   Nice spin-attempt.

  • Thomas2006Thomas2006 Member RarePosts: 1,152

    I wouldnt call it sneaking $5 out of you. As downloading the 12gig's worth of data needed to install the 26gig client is going to end up costing whoever offers you the preorder download more then $5 in bandwidth costs.

  • KorovaMBKorovaMB Member Posts: 97

    Somebody must have lost their tin-foil hat.

  • GruntiesGrunties Member Posts: 859

    Not a good a deal as POTBS had offered for sure, which included a headstart and some preorder items at no additional cost. A pity that game kinda fell from grace though. But at least is was a little less interested in fees for every little thing.

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  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    This has been known about for a long time its no secret. Wasn't one bad post / comment under that column on massively either.

     



  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    Originally posted by Thomas2006


    I wouldnt call it sneaking $5 out of you. As downloading the 12gig's worth of data needed to install the 26gig client is going to end up costing whoever offers you the preorder download more then $5 in bandwidth costs.

    Thats laughable.  You think other potential customers, 3 days later, are paying an additional $5 to download.  Nope.

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


    This has been known about for a long time its no secret. Wasn't one bad post / comment under that column on massively either.
     

    If it was widely known, I wouldnt have posted it.  Obviously if they wanted it to be widely known, they would not have hidden this in 'small-print' in an attempt to bait potential customers into thinking that what was once considered a very short-term, non operationally harmful perk, is an attempt to take another $5 that wouldnt otherwise be gotten for downloading the game electronically a few days later.  The subscription should clearly tack another $5 on the front-end of subscribing rather than attempting to bury it.

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    Ok folks let me break it down for you.

    Your not paying for the download, your paying for the 10 days. You get 3 days before anyone else, then 7 days after launch. Thats 1/3rd a normal month, thus 1/3rd the normal subscription.

    So... your not paying for the dl your paying the going rate for game time.

  • LiagoLiago Member UncommonPosts: 64
    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


     
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


    This has been known about for a long time its no secret. Wasn't one bad post / comment under that column on massively either.
     

     

    If it was widely known, I wouldnt have posted it.  Obviously if they wanted it to be widely known, they would not have hidden this in 'small-print' in an attempt to bait potential customers into thinking that what was once considered a very short-term, non operationally harmful perk, is an attempt to take another $5 that wouldnt otherwise be gotten for downloading the game electronically a few days later.  The subscription should clearly tack another $5 on the front-end of subscribing rather than attempting to bury it.

    Actually you may be the last person to realize this because it has been widely know for a long time. Every preorder site clearly lists it and as stated you get 3day head start and an additional 10 days of subscription time this is more then fair for $5. Unless of course you are mad because you don't make your own money and now have to convince those buying the game for you to spend a whole extra $5.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Pack it in, Jack. You've lost the argument.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    I would like to know how they are "sneaking" it if you have to knowingly pay for it. Its not like they are drafting 5 bucks out of your bank account or CC without your authorization. Its also not required that you pay the extra 5 bucks to play only if you want the early access.

    Sneak - implies you are unaware.

     

  • EattenEatten Member Posts: 86
    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


    http://www.massively.com/category/new-titles
    Man up and say what you mean and mean what you say.  Trying to sneak an extra $5 out of potential ly interested subscribers is beyond cheap; its deceptive.  Chalk another point of interest in the Warhammer column for me.
     
     

    warhammer it is

  • airstrikeairstrike Member UncommonPosts: 373

     Tho if it's hidden it's a bad move from funcom,5$ for 10 extra days is more then fair.A monthly sub costs 15$ and gives you 30 days of play,soo 5$=33% of a 1 month subs play time.

  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    Well, PoTB and LoTRO most likely have asked money for there early access, but just had increased prices of the pre-orders. What I gather is you can choose to participate in the early access event of AoC or not and so that for me is a good thing.

    Also the early access thingy is something recently annouched (Not sure) and most likely they where not planning of having this so it was not included in the price of the pre-orders.

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812

    Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


     
    Originally posted by Thomas2006


    I wouldnt call it sneaking $5 out of you. As downloading the 12gig's worth of data needed to install the 26gig client is going to end up costing whoever offers you the preorder download more then $5 in bandwidth costs.

     

    Thats laughable.  You think other potential customers, 3 days later, are paying an additional $5 to download.  Nope.

    1) True you didn't say cheating. But it's not sneaking either. As Avery stated, this is well known, and was never made a secret of.

     

    2) The potential customers three days later do not get 10 days extra. And now let's do a bit of math. A month costs roughly 15$...So 15$ for 30 days. 10 days would be then....YES! 5$. Congratulations.

  • iwantmyswgiwantmyswg Member Posts: 301

    i think fc went to the $OE school of how to rip your players off.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I think the broken record of the pre-CU bitterness dropped two corners back.

    Seriously though, you don't get anything for free beyond the 3 extra days head start and you pay $5 to play 10 extra days. Noone is cheated of anything. I didn't care about the head start so I didn't bother. You might as well do the same, noone is forcing you to pay the $5 if you don't want to.

  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481

     

    Originally posted by iwantmyswg


    i think fc went to the $OE school of how to rip your players off.



    If so then some of you went to the school of Hyperbole. You're getting a head start for a nominal fee I don't see this as being sneaky.

     

    BTW the abligatory SOE dig no longer nets brownie points, time for a new poster child.

    Dutchess Zarraa Voltayre
    Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.

  • MylonMylon Member Posts: 975

    For players that try the game for 2 weeks and never pick it up again, thats $5 extra they paid for nothing.

    Additionally, you pay $5 to preorder the game, just like any other preorder, only in this instance the fine print says the $5 doesn't go towards the purchase of the game, but is in addition to it. Following a well established method and changing the rules slightly is sneaky.

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    how is this hidden?

    the fee only applies to people playing the game 3 days early

    www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm

    3 Day Early Access Period from FunCom and Eidos
    You may begin downloading the game client software and installing as early as May 14. Then you may create a character and begin playing on May 17, 3 days before commercial release on May 20, 2008. You may play for 7 days after release while you wait for your retail box to arrive.
    Your character and all progress will be preserved into commercial release. There is a nominal fee of $5 that covers the cost of the download and includes the 10 days of the Early Access game time. This fee is charged by FunCom and is not included in your GoGamer price. However, we have reduced our price by $5 to help you afford that fee.
    We will email you a key code prior to May 17th that you may use to help unlock the Early Access program. The $5 FunCom fee still applies even with the key code.
    We will provide details on where to download the client in our email.

     

  • ThornwolfThornwolf Member Posts: 107

    If you want to pay for it you do, if you don't you don't. Nothing sneaky about it, it is all up front and in the open.

    If you think it should be free, well that is another debate but this is certainly not sneaky I have known about it for a long time as has everyone else who cares enough to research a game before they buy it.

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    I even saw it when pre-ordering the CE on gamestops webpage. No small print either, right there in the Bonus Offer Box. All it takes is someone with reading skills to clearly see it written.

    I don't like paying, but nothing sneaky about it. I saw it awhile back listed on that page.

     

     

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