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KethrymKethrym Member Posts: 85

This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 

 

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  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925

    There is zero free speech on a privately run forum.

    If you enjoy the game then play it.  With many servers are simply dying out it seems most no longer like it.

    What is the problem with SWG? 

    Is it the former playerbase causing marketing problems? 

    Is it the lack of development/communication integrity now revolving around this title?

    Is it the fact that they had many more players with the original game than now?

     

    If the game was good they would properly market it and the players would come.  Come on.  It is the only Star Wars MMO in the market and they cannot sell it.  What does that tell you?

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  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Well, I don't know about the moderators being offended by positive feedback on SWG, but I do know that there are a great many people who loathe the NGE and the asshats who destroyed a game they loved by substituting a shoddy WoW knockoff for a pretty decent game.

    And yes, I've played SWG on vet trials several times since the abortion called the NGE was foisted on us all, and the NGE still sucks rancor heinie.  I've expressed my disapproval of the changes by denying SOE and LA  the only thing they love...my money.

    I will continue to speak out about this pathetic pile of code that is SWG and there is nothing you can do to stop me, just as there is nothing I can do to stop you from waxing about how wonderful the pile of bantha poodoo is.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

    Once a denizen of Ahazi

  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    Playing the game solely because of an affiliation with Star Wars is worse then the justified positions of many people who refuse to support it due to the fraud committed by Lucas Arts and Sony Online Entertainment. 

    Beside the Wire Fraud committed by SOE and LA I suspect another reason of dissent is credited to the game being canablized to satisfy a mythical market which would have consisted of the lowest denominator of casual players who find reading too difficult. 

    What's unfortunate is there's still a host of good people who continue to blindly support the fraudlent acts of Sony Online Entertainment and Lucas Arts by playing Star Wars Galaxies. 

    There's good people playing and working on SWG but it cannot change the fact that a substanial portion of the consumer MMO market was targeted with consumer fraud. 

    Should I support the unscrupulous acts committed by SOE and LA by subscribing to a game I enjoyed that no longer exists or voice my dissent with my wallet?

  • Sam123jo0123Sam123jo0123 Member Posts: 409

    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 
     

    Ah theres only like 6 people that constantly post negative things, just ignore them mate.

    Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

     

    Originally posted by Sam123jo0123


     
    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 
     

     

    Ah theres only like 6 people that constantly post negative things, just ignore them mate.

    are you trying to pull that again ?  we had that  already here and proofed you  being total  inaccurate.

     

     www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/6/view/forums/thread/174799/page/8

     

    Depends on what is meant by "positive feedback" OP.

    Try to express something positive and we will check for valid points.

    My question is why do you not use the O-Board ? you know there is a higher  chance of getting "positive feedback", why u not using it  ?  the O-board  gets cleaned  ofnegative comments and there you have a lot  of the "positive feedback" you being after. Unfortunately here is the free real  world so you can't expect that here. Tho MMorpg.com  has already done in relation too much for you "positive feedback" in here and  given  unbalanced and unjustified already much of space and room for "positiveness" ...so be happy what you get on the real world here or  search in the O-Board bubble for  your  "positiveness" needs.

     

     - About beeing the only Star Wars MMO, yes it is and it is part of the problem because $OE sitting on the exclusive licence and  blocks  that way a highly possible game that would get more  love from the Star Wars community.

    - No if you like it don't means anyone else should like it and considering the numbers and the statements no vet really likes it ,  vets liked the former game and if they make  positive  comments about this then because

    a) is the only SW MMO right now

    b) are bored with other MMO

    c)are temporally satisfied with some feature that getting quick old and they cancel sub again.

    -The  game changed and you see how  we can absolutely  "do things", we inform  everyone about the way it got changed and about what is changed and what is taken away from an once great game.

    -If we the community would let it go then who would you expect to join you ? maybe the imaginary target audience you waiting since 3 years for ? face it  there is void and null possible SWG new players outside the SWG and Star Wars community. This Community in the big part tried PRE CU and liked it and dislikes all the changes since 27.04.2005  and most quit after 15.11.2005 with the final nail in the coffin, the NGE.  The changes since then don't recover what is lost with the CU/NGE  so no point to come back.

     

     

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  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672

    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 
     
    I don't know what you're smoking but mmorpg.com is one of the most pro-SOE sites on the internet.

     

    And just for the record...I don't care if people are playing SWG and enjoying themselves but when they are obvious viral marketers then I have a problem with their posts.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489

    I would be selling the game here if I thought it was worth playing. It was at one time, it's not now.

    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I don't mind positive feedback at all.  I like to see it actually because it gives me hope somehow things will turn around with this game.  What I don't like is hype and just blatant falsehoods.  For instance, I have gone back several times and each time the population was appallingly low.  For someone then to come on and say that the servers are full or there are tons of people playing is just misleading people.

     

    I would love the game to have more people.  But it doesn't.  I would love it if the UI and combat system weren't so awkward.  Also, the last vet trial I had I noticed quite a few times where animations were skipped or where specials didn't do anything.  This game has been out too long to have these problems, and the fault lies squarely with SOE and it's poor management team.

     

    Don't kill the messenger.  Remember, they have lost about 200k subscribers.  You like the game and if you are sincere, that is all that should matter to you.  But just recognize the vast majority of gamers recognize the game sucks in it's current form and you are in an extreme minority.

     

    But if you want to give postive feedback, I welcome it.  Only no hype or misleading stuff please. 

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,087

    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 
     

    Go back to WOW. 

    I doubt the thread got locked/deleted because it was promoting the "goodness" of the current version of SWG, odds are there was senseless flaming going on and the mod got tired of it.  If you really are upset, contact Taera, she'll address the issue.

     

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  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708
    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 
     

    SWG has long since fallen to the dark side. To tolerate or defend the dark side is to invite it into your heart.

    MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  • iwantmyswgiwantmyswg Member Posts: 301

    glad to see the mods are starting to see things our way.

    and positive swg feedback? i'm sorry but i hit the main swg forums as well and all i see are people crying out for the return of pre-cu.

  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672
    Originally posted by iwantmyswg


    glad to see the mods are starting to see things our way.
    and positive swg feedback? i'm sorry but i hit the main swg forums as well and all i see are people crying out for the return of pre-cu.

    I wouldn't be so sure. The fanbois report almost all of my posts and I receive "warnings" regularly for things that aren't even against the TOS.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Originally posted by smg77

    Originally posted by iwantmyswg


    glad to see the mods are starting to see things our way.
    and positive swg feedback? i'm sorry but i hit the main swg forums as well and all i see are people crying out for the return of pre-cu.

    I wouldn't be so sure. The fanbois report almost all of my posts and I receive "warnings" regularly for things that aren't even against the TOS.

    That would be me hahahaha kidding.

    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle. 

    Um what?

    This site (mmorpg.com) if anything has seemed to be semi funded by SOE.. and in general bans/deletes negative things.  Not sure what site you went to..

    Most "haters" don't even use these forums.. other than to exchange troll posts with the "fainbois".

    Perhaps I missed when the site changed policy recently?

     

  • ArcengelArcengel Member Posts: 2

    To be honest, this game has really gotten worse. Nearly all the people on the official forums say this version is the worst yet. Pre-cu> CU> NGE

  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672
    Originally posted by Antarious


     
    Originally posted by Kethrym


    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle. 

     

    Um what?

    This site (mmorpg.com) if anything has seemed to be semi funded by SOE.. and in general bans/deletes negative things.  Not sure what site you went to..

    Most "haters" don't even use these forums.. other than to exchange troll posts with the "fainbois".

    Perhaps I missed when the site changed policy recently?

     

    I don't know if funded is the right word but SOE's advertising dollars are clearly more important to them than remaining objective.

  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152

    To the OP:

    I'm glad you like the game but don't come on here telling lies about how things are better in it now, how crafting if the same, combat is so perfect, etc, etc.

    I played the game a week ago and it simply isn't true.  If the game were so good the merits it has would make people want to play it.

    Truth is that crafting is essentially dead.  No decay, loot drops, and heavy inflation have basically made it nothing more than a novelty -- I would say that is a BIG change from Pre-CU, wouldn't you?  So there is corporate lie # 1.

    Combat is the same except for the fact they increased the speed 5X.  It isn't even a FPS.  It's really no different and requires no more skill, less in fact, than Pre-CU did.  Corporate lie # 2.

    Nobody has issue if you are acutally a player who tried the game and likes it, just don't come here and post lies to entice others to spend money.  That is as unethical as the way this playerbase has been treated by this game already.

    Tecmo Bowl.

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Originally posted by iwantmyswg


    glad to see the mods are starting to see things our way.
    and positive swg feedback? i'm sorry but i hit the main swg forums as well and all i see are people crying out for the return of pre-cu.
    I'm not sure there's a conspiracy either way.

    The other day I posted to a thread about the music you hear in the game (someone was asking where they could get the source music) and after four posts the thread just vanished.

    My answer was that the music you hear in the game is all from the movies, you just have to listen carefully to the movie soundtrack to pick it up.  It's often background music for quiet conversations between the characters.  Other bits of music are introductory theme music to specific scenes.  For example, some of the "welcome to this city on Naboo" type music is from the scene where Padme and Anakin are flouncing around with the shaak.

    Which reminds me, why don't we ever see any shaak on Naboo?  We see a number of animals in the game that you saw fleeing from Fed battle vehicles in Ep I, like ikopi, falumpasets, and motts, but no shaak, ever.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

    Once a denizen of Ahazi

  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,848

    I think the story teller options are the best in all the North American MMO's as of this date. What I don't care for is how items that we have all worked for are constantly nerfed. I think positive feedback is good. I just want a classic server bug free. If you like SWG- fantastic. If you don't- fantastic. I prefer the pre NGE over all. It was more of a challenge and the ;ag was not as bad. The skill system was far superior.  But I won't knock someone who loves the NGE system here on MMORPG> I am just fed up  with SOE's lack of planning, insight, and money crunch.

  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 779

     



    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

     

     



    Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

     

     



    Originally posted by Kethrym

     

    This site's obvious fixation for hating Star Wars Galaxies is not only tasteless but ridiculous.   Deleting a post that was meant to inform players that the current incarnation of SWG is NOT as bad as they make it out to be was too much for even the moderator to handle.   As far as I'm concerned your site crossed the line.   A public forum thread should be locked or moved if it gets out of hand, never deleted.   There was no flaming, not much was off topic and there were some pretty good responses from former players.    Quite frankly I find that kind of moderator behavior irresponsible and appauling.     All of you current SoE haters really need to let it go.   The game changed, there is nothing you can do about it.  Rather than enjoying what you can in the only Star Wars game online, you feel the need to put it down relentlessly.    I gave it another chance, an honest chance, and I like it.   If I can like it again I know others can as well.    If you don't even have the  mental capacity  or testicular fortitude to try it again, thats not my problem. 

     




     

    Ah theres only like 6 people that constantly post negative things, just ignore them mate.



    are you trying to pull that again ?  we had that  already here and proofed you  being total  inaccurate.

      



     

    hehe are you mixing up another person who is making the same observation?

    There are like I think I can count them on one hand of people who constantly post its ridiculously transparent and no i dont think a half dozen or a dozen can make a case. Not when people are continuously coming here and posting threads like "yeah but i tried this and its fun" threads.

    I also dont remember being a victim of fraud but then maybe i dont worry about it so much. I cancelled my subscription for a time and they stopped charging me money and then one day i started paying again and they started charging me money and then well .. that's it.

    I stopped taking this forum seriously after I saw the same people making the same comment over and overagain and then started typing keywords in and came up with this stuff that never ends.

    I stopped trying to actually talk with people on this forum awhile back now i just point and stare in puzzlement over a now 3 year old dead issue and vandetta that should have for the regular joe just stopped being an issue long ago and occassionally post when I see someone mirroing something that I said now a month back..

    My interest in the repeated diatribe and reposting of links over and over again and hashing and rehashing is wanning like any other persons interest would. It kinda looses its edge ifyou over do it and quite franky people have overdone it in a big way.

     

  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 779

    Originally posted by Lateris


    I think the story teller options are the best in all the North American MMO's as of this date. What I don't care for is how items that we have all worked for are constantly nerfed. I think positive feedback is good. I just want a classic server bug free. If you like SWG- fantastic. If you don't- fantastic. I prefer the pre NGE over all. It was more of a challenge and the ;ag was not as bad. The skill system was far superior.  But I won't knock someone who loves the NGE system here on MMORPG> I am just fed up  with SOE's lack of planning, insight, and money crunch.
    quoted for emphasis

    I like your outlook I just wish that the dead horse that is rotting and stinking would die mainly because to be honest those that are flogging it haven't taken enough time to see if the flogging should continue. 

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    Originally posted by Lateris


    I think the story teller options are the best in all the North American MMO's as of this date. What I don't care for is how items that we have all worked for are constantly nerfed. I think positive feedback is good. I just want a classic server bug free. If you like SWG- fantastic. If you don't- fantastic. I prefer the pre NGE over all. It was more of a challenge and the ;ag was not as bad. The skill system was far superior.  But I won't knock someone who loves the NGE system here on MMORPG> I am just fed up  with SOE's lack of planning, insight, and money crunch.
    Until those story-teller items are used to lag a planet so badly that it crashes.

    Kind of like the pirate trap thing....

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