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iamct2327
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FIrst we have to subscribe, second we have to sit and hit F5 or download that crappy Comrade program. Okay well thats rediculous. Funcom and fileplanet is assuming people have nothing else to do with their free time. Sorry but this whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth, canceled pre order here and will wait for reviews later on. Beta is limited (only lasting 2 weeks what a joke that is) and it will not contain most of what's in the retail game sorry it smells fishy. I am not taking a chance with this one. I have a strong feelings there's going to be alot of angry people.
Not going to bother with this one, Funcom does'nt seem to care for their potential customers.
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lol theres only a problem on the fact that they partnered with fileplanet imo. probably got some extra $$ to use them and there exclusive beta to fileplanet subscribers. maybe it ill root out those who arnt serious. but this is a *OPEN BETA* ie stress testing. dont need much more than the 2 weeks and if they need more they can bump it a extra week or 2.
Well good luck in whatever you decide to play. I was on the fence as well, but after spending 30 hours in their pvp beta Im definitely getting the game.
Sorry the handling of the beta turned you off... games great
I don't believe that you'll cancel your preorder because you never really placed one.
Not doing a preorder and waiting for reviews is always a good idea.
the beta limit of 50,000 was set by Funcom -- not Fileplanet
no matter how you slice it,
many people were not going to have access to Open Beta anyhow
Fileplanet is helping Funcom to "balance" 50,000 people who need download a 12 gig file
Funcom commentary on Beta key distribution
community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi
EQ2 fan sites
Fileplanet was only given 50,000 keys, and they have way more than 50,000 subscribers, I think it was a logical decision that Fileplanet made, I mean if they handed a key to every user they had that would overload the available servers and we would have a crappy beta because of serious lag.
An open beta for a game of AoC's calibur is something very different than the usual open beta's given out around here.
Having several months of Open Beta is a relatively new concept, and is usually used only by Free MMOs. In those cases, Open Beta is just a way to get some income from the cash shops to finish the project off for launch. Which ends up never really happening because it Open Beta just turned into a Launch day. I get the feeling they just call them Open Beta to get people to wan to play. Open beta is not "early access" it isn't a "trial" to see if you like it before you buy it. Its a test of their software/hardware at their discretion. So there is nothing "fishy" about what their doing at all. Its very normal for there to only be a few weeks of open beta before launch, in order to stress test the system and minimize as many issues as they can that might cause problems at Launch.
That being said, getting in will be very difficult. Because unlike Free MMO's who have little to no cap on how many people can get in. AoC will have a cap (50,000 I believe) and there will be several hundred thousand people trying to get those slots.
Case in point. Don't get fussy because you can't get in beta. Yea it's sad, I can't get in either. but we're either going to have to wait for retail or keep trying to get in before it's over and thats that.
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People are still forgetting what a Beta test is for. It's not a free pass to play the game early, it's not even a free trial. You're supposed to try and help them make a better game by logging in and breaking stuff before they release. Where's your sense of MMO civic duty?
If you don't want to become a Fileplanet member and pay a share of the bandwidth and whatever, then don't. You're not missing out on anything. Sure, people who do get into Beta might have a better handle on the game that does release, but really, is it that important?
At the end of the day, Funcom is doing what they think is best for their company and and software. Getting into Beta isn't a bloody contest or anything. It's your chance to help the entire community of AoC by helping Funcom make a better game. If you don't get in, then no big deal you know? Better luck next time.
I've been subscribed to AoC's various websites for the last couple of years, and haven't received a beat key. Such is life, I'll just wait for release.
I'm right there with you korvass
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Maybe that is so but if they limit the players in open beta so they get a good run what's gonna happen when every 1 logs in for the first time on the day of the big release? Mass server lag and lots pf very unhappy people i think this is a very poor way t o handle an Open beta i mean it is meant to be a stress test if you like ? well how the hell are they gonna stress test it with a very small portion of who are gonna play? a stress test is going balls out and seeing what they can handle and what they cant i mean i know that if i got in beta and seen because there were so many ppl on that the servers could not handle it and they decided to put it back a lil while longer to fix that issue i would not be that dissapointed, but if i get on when the game releases and see it is laggy as shit then it is gonna lose my vote till things are fixed. I have high hopes for this game but think they are handling things badly with the direction of this supposedly Open Beta/Stress test more like selective beta/minimal lag test.
Not every one is going to get in. I for one have been lucky and gotten in to both. Guess you all need to be at the right place at the right time. The game is great dont hate just because you didnt get in.
But you forget, on openning day they will have several servers, no level cap, and other various precautions to take in.
In the Open Beta they limit everything and confine everyone into a small space. They don't have all the servers open, only maybe 2 or 3, they confine everyone to the first 15 levels of content. They jam everyone into the first 15 levels. And they stress test. Not just in the sense of lots of people being on at the same time. Yea thats part of it but not all of it.
50,000 people hitting a single server will be the same as 200,000 hitting 4 servers. etc. They test things such as Are spawn rates decent enough to keep up with a huge load of people? If we trip on this wire how many people will get kicked off? Where is everyone congregating? Is that area big enough?
Now, don't forget there aren't "only" 50,000 people in beta. They are just adding 50,000 into Open Beta, everyone from Closed Beta and before will be there too.
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Can't wait to get my War Mammoth. feel bad for people who cancel there order. looks like you are going to walk
You will walk slower than most ppl since you can only use mount at lvl 40 and being a Mamoth ppl in horses will gonna fly trough you!
Btw dunno if War Mammoth is only usable at lvl 80 but i think it is!
But you forget, on openning day they will have several servers, no level cap, and other various precautions to take in.
In the Open Beta they limit everything and confine everyone into a small space. They don't have all the servers open, only maybe 2 or 3, they confine everyone to the first 15 levels of content. They jam everyone into the first 15 levels. And they stress test. Not just in the sense of lots of people being on at the same time. Yea thats part of it but not all of it.
50,000 people hitting a single server will be the same as 200,000 hitting 4 servers. etc. They test things such as Are spawn rates decent enough to keep up with a huge load of people? If we trip on this wire how many people will get kicked off? Where is everyone congregating? Is that area big enough?
Now, don't forget there aren't "only" 50,000 people in beta. They are just adding 50,000 into Open Beta, everyone from Closed Beta and before will be there too.
Well that puts things a little more into focus but i still dont understand the limited open beta spots? from the many years i have been beta testing games open beta has alway's meant Open to the public i just dont understand this selective business if they only want a certain amount of people to test the game then do away with the open beta nonsense or rename it and just finish of testing with a special closed beta stress test i know it is only a name but it is putting a bad taste in many peoples mouths, i honestly have not even bothered to try for the beta as it is the final product that i am more interested but i think things could have been handled a little bit better especially for the community they are trying to attract. If you are gonna have an Open Beta then open the bloody thing dont close off potential buyers and i know exactly what open beta is for but how many people do you seriously think are participating to riddle out bugs in nearly all beta's i have seen i seen more people racing to the top level then actually testing the damn thing, i guess what im getting at is that limiting the player base in a stress test will bring back minimal Results in regards to riddling out bugs unless they are all doing what they have been given the opportunity to do.
And when the servers go live, at least the login servers that do the accounting will be clustered. There will be a number of things in place to help the overload (not that I wouldn't expect a lockup or two and even a crash).
I've been Beta testing for years as well. I don't have an issue with this test in general but I think FC/FP would have done well to call it a Limited OB or a Closed Beta Special or something. Given what Open Beta means to the current MMO market they cold have forestalled some unhappy campers by a small naming change. Small boo-boo on the part of someone in marketing and planning.
*shrug*
exactly it dont mean a great deal to me lol but to some it is a big deal and thus people cancelling pr-orders and such but hey that is there way of venting i guess
But you forget, on openning day they will have several servers, no level cap, and other various precautions to take in.
In the Open Beta they limit everything and confine everyone into a small space. They don't have all the servers open, only maybe 2 or 3, they confine everyone to the first 15 levels of content. They jam everyone into the first 15 levels. And they stress test. Not just in the sense of lots of people being on at the same time. Yea thats part of it but not all of it.
50,000 people hitting a single server will be the same as 200,000 hitting 4 servers. etc. They test things such as Are spawn rates decent enough to keep up with a huge load of people? If we trip on this wire how many people will get kicked off? Where is everyone congregating? Is that area big enough?
Now, don't forget there aren't "only" 50,000 people in beta. They are just adding 50,000 into Open Beta, everyone from Closed Beta and before will be there too.
Well that puts things a little more into focus but i still dont understand the limited open beta spots? from the many years i have been beta testing games open beta has alway's meant Open to the public i just dont understand this selective business if they only want a certain amount of people to test the game then do away with the open beta nonsense or rename it and just finish of testing with a special closed beta stress test i know it is only a name but it is putting a bad taste in many peoples mouths, i honestly have not even bothered to try for the beta as it is the final product that i am more interested but i think things could have been handled a little bit better especially for the community they are trying to attract. If you are gonna have an Open Beta then open the bloody thing dont close off potential buyers and i know exactly what open beta is for but how many people do you seriously think are participating to riddle out bugs in nearly all beta's i have seen i seen more people racing to the top level then actually testing the damn thing, i guess what im getting at is that limiting the player base in a stress test will bring back minimal Results in regards to riddling out bugs unless they are all doing what they have been given the opportunity to do.
I'm going to let you in on a little secret love,
Open Beta is not a trial for potential buyers. Well.. that may be what most think it is now adays, but the truth of the matter is, it's not.
More than likely, all of the games you've beta tested for were not games of this calibur. Open Beta means it is open to the public and everyone has a chance at getting in. However, that does not mean everyone gets in just because they want to.
During Closed beta, only a few chosen people are allowed in. There are specific goals and the players play through and do as the developers ask.
During Open beta, The game is pretty much ready, so there are a large number of keys given out to the public. However its up to the company to decide how their given out. But whatever the method, everyone has a chance at them. That doesn't mean they won't make it complicated. The players play through with no real direction, and they cram them all onto one or two servers to see how it handles, and they figure out their game plan for opening day.
I swear, all these Free MMO's with their Open and Closed Beta's. -.- They have poinsoned the minds of gamers everywhere.
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Everyone has to decide for themselves what course of action they will (or will not) take. Most folks who wanted to play and end up canceling because they think they got their nose tweaked probably would not be great players anyways. Those who were in a 'mood' will end up not canceling after they realize they can play in less than a month and that not getting into the 'OB' isn't going to kill them.
goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-275024/Blizzard-Entertainment-Partners-with-FilePlanet.html
Open beta does not always mean its open to *everybody*
- it would be better to say that Open beta means its available to a larger audience
EQ2 fan sites
That is a nice way of putting it Nadia.
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I'm going to let you in on a little secret love,
1. Please dont call me love i am an Adult and deserve the respect to be treated like 1,
2.Your profile show's you are a male and as a male myself i find this a little disturbing.
Open Beta is not a trial for potential buyers.
I am quite aware of this but alot of people will judge on this beta test if the game is worthy of buying, not everybody who test these games are already subscribed to them and use these test to see if the game is for them and not actually testing the damn thing.
More than likely, all of the games you've beta tested for were not games of this calibur. Open Beta means it is open to the public and everyone has a chance at getting in. However, that does not mean everyone gets in just because they want to.
1. a lot of the games i have tested in the Past have been of this Caliber they may not of had such nice graphics or such a big bloody client but all are the most successful MMO's to date.
2.Since when has Open beta been given a new meaning? Open Beta has always meant Open to all of teh Public and i as well as your self and many of other billions of people in this world are the Public so why should we be generalised and be put into selective groups? if it is open to the Public then all of the Public should be invited it is very simple really.
During Closed beta, only a few chosen people are allowed in. There are specific goals and the players play through and do as the developers ask.
Yes that is what the Dev's want but does not always happen.
During Open beta, The game is pretty much ready, so there are a large number of keys given out to the public. However its up to the company to decide how their given out. But whatever the method, everyone has a chance at them. That doesn't mean they won't make it complicated. The players play through with no real direction, and they cram them all onto one or two servers to see how it handles, and they figure out their game plan for opening day.
Thats all fair and Good But i think you have in all honesty missed my Argument all together, i dont have a problem personally with how many people are in ""Open Beta"" i have a problem with how it is not as it once was Open to all the Public and Open to all the Public does not mean a selective group this generally causes more grief then Progress at times but i think they have just misled alot of people that are keen to get into the Beta (me not being one of them, as i stated in another post i am more interested in Final Product)People get into beta more so just to play these days then to buy as they can judge if the game is worth spending there cash on.
And dont blame the F2P games for the Open beta test being the way that it is as every P2P game i have beta tested had been handled the same way as them.
Well if the NDA is lifted after this "Open Beta" and just before release, I can see alot of people getting very excited. I'm sick of reading these silly threads to be honest, I know people are pissed that they havent gotten into this beta but hey you win some and you lose some.
goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-275024/Blizzard-Entertainment-Partners-with-FilePlanet.html
Open beta does not always mean its open to *everybody*
- it would be better to say that Open beta means its available to a larger audience
I dont want to get into an argument with people here but,Blizzard Entertainment Partners with FilePlanet for World of Warcraft Stress Test Beta;
See at least they called it a stress test lol this is my Argument it is called Open Beta but only a selected few are invited to play and i know every1 has a chance but nonetheless there is a selective amount only to play.
Anyways it is not really concerning me so i dont know why im biting back i just think they should have called it a mass stress test and i guess we would not be getting threads like this.