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DnL 2.0 Rumour

MeyithiMeyithi Member Posts: 48

If you didn't already know, there us is a rumour that DnL 2.0 is 70% complete and hopes to fix all that is wrong with the current game.

www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php

Notice there's been no dev denials at all...

I'd just like to say that I never thought anybody would be so stupid to fall for the same lie twice, actually that's a lie, but it still feels it's my duty to point out the idiocy of it.

Will there be pre-orders to DnL 2.0?  Can Np3 pull off the same con again?

I think they can - the fools are waiting on the sidelines, how sad is that?

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  • ZtyXZtyX Member UncommonPosts: 368

    I think Dark and LIght is a great game and a super project with a lot of potential. I'm ready to pay for anything they come up with in the future for Dark and Light. The problem has been that they haven't patched in a year and the patches have been small (apart from the major UI overhaul, which was cool).

    If Dark and Light at some point includes player owned housing/cities, then I will be there ASAP. I've always dreamt about that.

    I have to say that Dark and Light provides the sense of a world where you can really immerse yourself. It's unlike any other game I've tried. Even though it is so dead now. But, it wasn't once and it was so fun to play when the game had lots of people trying it out. .. Having cities and houses would definitely have been a lot of fun. Also NPC city sieges and more large scale PvP. That is a fun thing in Dark and Light.

    ... I'm thinking that all the high level players will make it really hard for new people to join in on the PvP. So that's a bad thing. If they really choose to re-release DnL as DnL 2.0, then they should wipe all characters.

    But, I don't know.. I guess it would be fun enough to play from the bottom. .. No matter what. Good luck DNL!

  • ZtyXZtyX Member UncommonPosts: 368

    I am quoting Dekamore:

    Ok this is some things i have received info on.

    One the last patch we received was when they started reworking the game from the ground up. The dev team is small now but they have been working hard and believe in the project. They will be rereleasing the game called "Dark and light 2.0" soon, and where over 70% done when I heard this information, and that was months ago.



    I hope they do get the game out soon and hope everything goes well.

    I can not say where I got this information. But know I am not making up that I received it. I just hope that it is true. One thing is a 100% rebuild of the game so the bugs and works of the Dev that left, and locked all his code are gone.

    So I was told.



    Again all I am saying is this is what I was told.

    I feel something needs to be said here seeing all the new games that are coming out.

    Come on DNL Dev’s we are still here even after all the bad that was done to us. Make us happy we stuck it out.

     

     

    So Dekamore is a long time player of Dark and Light. It's very possible he could have gotten this information and it certainly sounds really promising. I'm really glad! :)

    It looks like all the mmorpg fans will have something nice coming to them! We have a lot of promise going on no. More than ever. Things look really bright.

    Dark and Light re-released without Pix's incompetence (yes, he was incompetent and his coding was terrible). Shadowbane resets servers (a lot of players are having fun there). Star Wars Galaxies chapters coming along nicely and the game is just thundering ahead with a bigger Dev team and a lot of ideas! Fallen Earth getting further and further along in its development. Darkfall getting closer to its release! .. I never thought I would say this, but I really am going to have a hard time figuring out what I want to play the way things are looking right now. .. In just 6 months we will have seen some HUGE chances on the mmo scene. In 1 year even better and I am just ecstatic about what will happen in 2 years once these projects will be in a monthly updating routine! Hurray for mmos!

  • MeyithiMeyithi Member Posts: 48

    *smacks head*

    They are relaunching Thaladomide as well, the devs promise it will work this time, honest...

  • ZtyXZtyX Member UncommonPosts: 368

    Is that some type of medicine?

    Anyway, I am still really positive about these recent things going on in the MMO scene. :)

    And hehe.. It feels good to sit and watch people get more and more frustrated with the fact that Age of Conan doesn't live up. Lol.

    I knew it all along. The players who have gotten past the "mmo-rookie" status wont settle for linear gameplay anymore and Age of Conan is too linear. You can't breathe in all those instances. .You just can't-

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by ZtyX


    I am quoting Dekamore:
    Ok this is some things i have received info on.

    One the last patch we received was when they started reworking the game from the ground up. The dev team is small now but they have been working hard and believe in the project. They will be rereleasing the game called "Dark and light 2.0" soon, and where over 70% done when I heard this information, and that was months ago.



    I hope they do get the game out soon and hope everything goes well.

    I can not say where I got this information. But know I am not making up that I received it. I just hope that it is true. One thing is a 100% rebuild of the game so the bugs and works of the Dev that left, and locked all his code are gone.

    So I was told.



    Again all I am saying is this is what I was told.

    I feel something needs to be said here seeing all the new games that are coming out.

    Come on DNL Dev’s we are still here even after all the bad that was done to us. Make us happy we stuck it out.

     
     
    So Dekamore is a long time player of Dark and Light. It's very possible he could have gotten this information and it certainly sounds really promising. I'm really glad! :)
    It looks like all the mmorpg fans will have something nice coming to them! We have a lot of promise going on no. More than ever. Things look really bright.
    Dark and Light re-released without Pix's incompetence (yes, he was incompetent and his coding was terrible). Shadowbane resets servers (a lot of players are having fun there). Star Wars Galaxies chapters coming along nicely and the game is just thundering ahead with a bigger Dev team and a lot of ideas! Fallen Earth getting further and further along in its development. Darkfall getting closer to its release! .. I never thought I would say this, but I really am going to have a hard time figuring out what I want to play the way things are looking right now. .. In just 6 months we will have seen some HUGE chances on the mmo scene. In 1 year even better and I am just ecstatic about what will happen in 2 years once these projects will be in a monthly updating routine! Hurray for mmos!

      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    mackdawg19, I wouldn't worry. This HAS to be a joke thread.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Because NOONE could be this dumb..............................

  • agh50agh50 Member Posts: 124

    From what I have been able to gleen from this whole discussion is that this whole legal matter seems to be fought over ownership of a graphics engine that is no longer state-of-the-art and cannot practically be upgraded.

    It wouldn't matter if NPCube won the suit or lost it, the game would have to be re-done *anyway*!!

    It looks to me like NPCube/Farlan are not going to win in October.  It also looks to me like Farlan does not have the financial resources to redo the game even if they did win, or they would have made a settlement four years ago in the first place, and we would not have had all this 'sturm und drang' for our reading enjoyment.

    I mean really people, World War One was fought in less time than this legal debacle has gone on.  Win, lose, or draw, the only *real* winners in this fiasco will be the lawyers (as usual).

    If DnL is reborn after October, I will be quite suprised. 

    What I mourn is not the passing of the game or the company so much as those elements of the game that no other company seems to want to incorporate into their releases.

  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by ZtyX
    Is that some type of medicine?
    Anyway, I am still really positive about these recent things going on in the MMO scene. :)
    And hehe.. It feels good to sit and watch people get more and more frustrated with the fact that Age of Conan doesn't live up. Lol.
    I knew it all along. The players who have gotten past the "mmo-rookie" status wont settle for linear gameplay anymore and Age of Conan is too linear. You can't breathe in all those instances. .You just can't-

    You laugh at AoC but you continue to support a broken game. At least AoC won't be broken and playable. It may not be totally envisioned the way it should have been, but it won't cause a legal battle and some bs servers/coding that actually ruins a perfectly good engine. Still laughing about that deal. I don't know how you can laugh at anything if you support DnL, one of the worst MMOs launched in history, good game there flyboy.

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

     

    Originally posted by ZtyX


    I am quoting Dekamore:




    I hope they do get the game out soon and hope everything goes well.

    I can not say where I got this information. But know I am not making up that I received it. I just hope that it is true. One thing is a 100% rebuild of the game so the bugs and works of the Dev that left, and locked all his code are gone.

    So I was told.



     

     

    What good news!!!

    DnL in 2002-2003 (including bad coding):

     And ...here you go folks, the rise of DnL II:

    Well, ok still needs some improvements (obviously, as far as I can judge), but coming soon!!!

  • ZtyXZtyX Member UncommonPosts: 368


      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

    PIX was a bad programmer and his code was a mess. I know this because I read a journal made by PIX's former partner. PIX was originally in the food business. He is a business man and he is no passionate programmer. At least he wasn't back then and so he wasn't as skilled as other people in that field. His friend on the other hand was. I think his name is Campion. That's from the top of my head. .. But anyway. When PIX split with Campion he took the technology they had worked on and he left his lifelong friend Campion in the dust because PiX wanted to live on Reunion island in the sun with his wife. Campion stayed back in France and he also kept the engine they had developed. But, PIX was so bad at programming that the new person - an expert Campion hired (another friend) simply could not continue working on it. Only PIX could work with his mess code. And that is the truth. Pix worked with the programmer who was to replace PIX, but the code was so messed up and badly organized that only PIX could work with it. .. Campion's friend came into his office and just said it. Plain and simple. He could not work with PIX's code. It was a total mess.

    And that is really the truth. And what happened later with Dark and LIght is actually just karma kicking Pix's butt. Also.. In Dark And Light that same engine was used. So when he left the project the others could not continue working on it efficiently! Pix was the one working with it.. That is why so many features had to be taken out of the game. And that is what they are struggling with now. They need to replace PIX's work with a code that they can actually work with.

    The DnL devs appeared incompetent for the people who didn't know. .. But, if you know Phillipe Campion (yea I think that was his name). If you know his story and have followed Dark and LIght. Then you know these things about what happened. .. So yes. He was incompetent and a bad friend who left behind his partner Campión. And he left Vuuar and all the people who were dreaming about a big and immersive online world. ... I still hope they succeed. Now they are without this guy Pix. Snailgames is a competent Chinese company. They are passionate and.. well. Things might come around after all! Im positive :)

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    What fun it is in LaLaLand!!! WOOT!!!

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    Originally posted by ZtyX


     

      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

     

    PIX was a bad programmer and his code was a mess. I know this because I read a journal made by PIX's former partner. PIX was originally in the food business. He is a business man and he is no passionate programmer. At least he wasn't back then and so he wasn't as skilled as other people in that field. His friend on the other hand was. I think his name is Campion. That's from the top of my head. .. But anyway. When PIX split with Campion he took the technology they had worked on and he left his lifelong friend Campion in the dust because PiX wanted to live on Reunion island in the sun with his wife. Campion stayed back in France and he also kept the engine they had developed. But, PIX was so bad at programming that the new person - an expert Campion hired (another friend) simply could not continue working on it. Only PIX could work with his mess code. And that is the truth. Pix worked with the programmer who was to replace PIX, but the code was so messed up and badly organized that only PIX could work with it. .. Campion's friend came into his office and just said it. Plain and simple. He could not work with PIX's code. It was a total mess.

    And that is really the truth. And what happened later with Dark and LIght is actually just karma kicking Pix's butt. Also.. In Dark And Light that same engine was used. So when he left the project the others could not continue working on it efficiently! Pix was the one working with it.. That is why so many features had to be taken out of the game. And that is what they are struggling with now. They need to replace PIX's work with a code that they can actually work with.

    The DnL devs appeared incompetent for the people who didn't know. .. But, if you know Phillipe Campion (yea I think that was his name). If you know his story and have followed Dark and LIght. Then you know these things about what happened. .. So yes. He was incompetent and a bad friend who left behind his partner Campión. And he left Vuuar and all the people who were dreaming about a big and immersive online world. ... I still hope they succeed. Now they are without this guy Pix. Snailgames is a competent Chinese company. They are passionate and.. well. Things might come around after all! Im positive :)

    Ya know? I got an entirely different idea from reading that diary page that you seem to profess is absolute proof and absolute truth.

    I got the picture that this other guy, Campion?, was riding on Pix's back. He sounded more like a greedy money hungry go-boy than a "competent programmer". Seems to me this guy is disgruntled that he wasnt able to continue to ride the tech wagon Pix had produced. He even stated himself, he saw it more as a "money machine" than anything else.

    Seems to me you are also missing some very important legal actions that occured that shed light on this very disgruntled and greedy man. In fact, the word "thief" comes to mind........ but you really should do your own homework --- there are legal papers you can take a look at that may just PROVE another side.

    Seems to me karma has already kicked his greedy little butt and Farlan is eating up the roots of their own garden of deceit.

    Then again, for someone to completely disregard what a court of law has already said, guess you wouldnt believe in the integrity of the law courts to find the truth anyhow. Ya know? Acceptance of things you cannot change is a very noble act.

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Originally posted by ZtyX


     
    Originally posted by _Pix_


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX


    I am quoting Dekamore:




    I hope they do get the game out soon and hope everything goes well.

    I can not say where I got this information. But know I am not making up that I received it. I just hope that it is true. One thing is a 100% rebuild of the game so the bugs and works of the Dev that left, and locked all his code are gone.

    So I was told.



     

     

    What good news!!!

    DnL in 2002-2003 (including bad coding):

     And ...here you go folks, the rise of DnL II:

    Well, ok still needs some improvements (obviously, as far as I can judge), but coming soon!!!

    Yes, Pix. With YOUR incompetent code and no. That is not how DnL 2.0 will look.

     

    It might not look all that much different at all, but at least it will be a code that OTHER PEOPLE CAN WORK WITH! And be used in the future by the dev team to produce some new content. .. You are the one who gimped NP3 and you gimped your friend who was ruined.. His wife left him and he had to live in a 25m2 appartment. ... For what? Because some reporter didn't credit you (even though Campion asked the reporter to).  .. You have always been selfish Pix. .. You don't belong in the mmo business. And you will not win the final lawsuit. Np3 will. Because they did not steal anything. You had a contract with them and the engine was to be used in Dark and Light. Then later you go off and leave them. And years later u claim that they have stolen your property. You make a fuss on these forums and u hurt the relationship with NP3's partners. .. More people should see you for who you really are.

    Have you been in a foxhole for the last few months? Have you not seen farlan/NPcube getting slapped around by the courts after being caught in lie after lie after lie? And you think they'll win?

    Don't ever become a lawyer. You'd suck at it.

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

    I'm not sure which is more disturbing.

    The fact that a company that over-hyped their game and then completely failed to deliver on their promises could think about making a '2.0' version (If this isn't some sick joke) rather than getting booted out of the MMORPG industry. 

    Or the fact that there are already people lining up to drink the kool-aid.   Again. 

    The MMORPG community really doesn't have any memory at all, does it.    Or maybe it's just that old-school tradition of masochistic gameplay that makes them willing to put up with things that would drive most people away.

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842

    Originally posted by ZtyX


     

      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

     

    PIX was a bad programmer and his code was a mess. I know this because I read a journal made by PIX's former partner. PIX was originally in the food business. He is a business man and he is no passionate programmer. At least he wasn't back then and so he wasn't as skilled as other people in that field. His friend on the other hand was. I think his name is Campion. That's from the top of my head. .. But anyway. When PIX split with Campion he took the technology they had worked on and he left his lifelong friend Campion in the dust because PiX wanted to live on Reunion island in the sun with his wife. Campion stayed back in France and he also kept the engine they had developed. But, PIX was so bad at programming that the new person - an expert Campion hired (another friend) simply could not continue working on it. Only PIX could work with his mess code. And that is the truth. Pix worked with the programmer who was to replace PIX, but the code was so messed up and badly organized that only PIX could work with it. .. Campion's friend came into his office and just said it. Plain and simple. He could not work with PIX's code. It was a total mess.

    And that is really the truth. And what happened later with Dark and LIght is actually just karma kicking Pix's butt. Also.. In Dark And Light that same engine was used. So when he left the project the others could not continue working on it efficiently! Pix was the one working with it.. That is why so many features had to be taken out of the game. And that is what they are struggling with now. They need to replace PIX's work with a code that they can actually work with.

    The DnL devs appeared incompetent for the people who didn't know. .. But, if you know Phillipe Campion (yea I think that was his name). If you know his story and have followed Dark and LIght. Then you know these things about what happened. .. So yes. He was incompetent and a bad friend who left behind his partner Campión. And he left Vuuar and all the people who were dreaming about a big and immersive online world. ... I still hope they succeed. Now they are without this guy Pix. Snailgames is a competent Chinese company. They are passionate and.. well. Things might come around after all! Im positive :)

    Wow, just plain WOW! I don't even know if I want to comment at all on this or not, because obviously you have been living in some dream world. You must have missed the fact that Farlan/NPCube has been caught lying over and over again. It wasn't PiX's fault they couldn't code over his work, it was their fault they had hired brainless coders. Just take a small step back and look at VG. Even in its coded buginess, they found half ass's at Sony who could code over it. And thats without any scripting tools. So even if PiX's programming code was a mess, what does that say about them? Exactly what I thought, as stated above, quit drinking the kool-aid. It has no sugar, or as we say, SUBSTANCE!

  • green13green13 Member UncommonPosts: 1,341

    Originally posted by ZtyX


    I am quoting Dekamore:
    Ok this is some things i have received info on.

    One the last patch we received was when they started reworking the game from the ground up. The dev team is small now but they have been working hard and believe in the project. They will be rereleasing the game called "Dark and light 2.0" soon, and where over 70% done when I heard this information, and that was months ago.



    I hope they do get the game out soon and hope everything goes well.

    I can not say where I got this information. But know I am not making up that I received it. I just hope that it is true. One thing is a 100% rebuild of the game so the bugs and works of the Dev that left, and locked all his code are gone.

    So I was told.



    Again all I am saying is this is what I was told.

    I feel something needs to be said here seeing all the new games that are coming out.

    Come on DNL Dev’s we are still here even after all the bad that was done to us. Make us happy we stuck it out.

    I always love coming to this forum. It never fails to make me a laugh.

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Originally posted by ZtyX2


    Zorvan. I think you are the one who lived in a pidgeonhole, not I. The verdict was merely a fine for NP3 because they made the mistake of sueing Pix for damaging their relations with some partners. .. It shows nothing else. .. The court didn't treat the real subject here the right way. The real subject being whether Pix has a right to be credited for his crappy coding skills or not. And he doesnt. This is something we will see in end of 2008. Just wait, Zorvan. Np3cube will win that lawsuit.
    Try looking at the regular case AFTER that, where Farlan?NPcube tried once again to stall the case, only this time the court gave a fatass NO. They're actions in both cases have finally worn on the courts patience. So no, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of winning.

    By the way, alt accounts aren't allowed here. You know the rules.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    Originally posted by Zorvan


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX2


    Zorvan. I think you are the one who lived in a pidgeonhole, not I. The verdict was merely a fine for NP3 because they made the mistake of sueing Pix for damaging their relations with some partners. .. It shows nothing else. .. The court didn't treat the real subject here the right way. The real subject being whether Pix has a right to be credited for his crappy coding skills or not. And he doesnt. This is something we will see in end of 2008. Just wait, Zorvan. Np3cube will win that lawsuit.
    Try looking at the regular case AFTER that, where Farlan?NPcube tried once again to stall the case, only this time the court gave a fatass NO. They're actions in both cases have finally worn on the courts patience. So no, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of winning.

     

    By the way, alt accounts aren't allowed here. You know the rules.


    Bah, let it go Zorv.

    "Zytx's" schtick is getting old and tiring. Not even worth acknowledging anymore. 

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Cholayna


     
    Originally posted by Zorvan


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX2


    Zorvan. I think you are the one who lived in a pidgeonhole, not I. The verdict was merely a fine for NP3 because they made the mistake of sueing Pix for damaging their relations with some partners. .. It shows nothing else. .. The court didn't treat the real subject here the right way. The real subject being whether Pix has a right to be credited for his crappy coding skills or not. And he doesnt. This is something we will see in end of 2008. Just wait, Zorvan. Np3cube will win that lawsuit.
    Try looking at the regular case AFTER that, where Farlan?NPcube tried once again to stall the case, only this time the court gave a fatass NO. They're actions in both cases have finally worn on the courts patience. So no, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of winning.

     

    By the way, alt accounts aren't allowed here. You know the rules.


    Bah, let it go Zorv.

     

    "Zytx's" schtick is getting old and tiring. Not even worth acknowledging anymore. 

    Heh, he's trying to hold up Dark and Light and Darkfall both as shining examples of good devs over in the Darkfall forums.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Cholayna


     
    Originally posted by Zorvan


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX2


    Zorvan. I think you are the one who lived in a pidgeonhole, not I. The verdict was merely a fine for NP3 because they made the mistake of sueing Pix for damaging their relations with some partners. .. It shows nothing else. .. The court didn't treat the real subject here the right way. The real subject being whether Pix has a right to be credited for his crappy coding skills or not. And he doesnt. This is something we will see in end of 2008. Just wait, Zorvan. Np3cube will win that lawsuit.
    Try looking at the regular case AFTER that, where Farlan?NPcube tried once again to stall the case, only this time the court gave a fatass NO. They're actions in both cases have finally worn on the courts patience. So no, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of winning.

     

    By the way, alt accounts aren't allowed here. You know the rules.


    Bah, let it go Zorv.

     

    "Zytx's" schtick is getting old and tiring. Not even worth acknowledging anymore. 

    Heh, he's trying to hold up Dark and Light and Darkfall both as shining examples of good devs over in the Darkfall forums.



    yeh, thats what Im talking about. It's getting old 

  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529

    Ztyx, you've got me speechless

    Congratulations

  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205

    Originally posted by ZtyX


    I think Dark and LIght is a great game and a super project with a lot of potential. I'm ready to pay for anything they come up with in the future for Dark and Light. The problem has been that they haven't patched in a year and the patches have been small (apart from the major UI overhaul, which was cool).
    If Dark and Light at some point includes player owned housing/cities, then I will be there ASAP. I've always dreamt about that.
    I have to say that Dark and Light provides the sense of a world where you can really immerse yourself. It's unlike any other game I've tried. Even though it is so dead now. But, it wasn't once and it was so fun to play when the game had lots of people trying it out. .. Having cities and houses would definitely have been a lot of fun. Also NPC city sieges and more large scale PvP. That is a fun thing in Dark and Light.
    ... I'm thinking that all the high level players will make it really hard for new people to join in on the PvP. So that's a bad thing. If they really choose to re-release DnL as DnL 2.0, then they should wipe all characters.
    But, I don't know.. I guess it would be fun enough to play from the bottom. .. No matter what. Good luck DNL!

    Hey Ztyx, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you....

    "A fool and his money are soon parted..." 

     

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  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

     

    Originally posted by Zorvan


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX2


    Zorvan. I think you are the one who lived in a pidgeonhole, not I. The verdict was merely a fine for NP3 because they made the mistake of sueing Pix for damaging their relations with some partners. .. It shows nothing else. .. The court didn't treat the real subject here the right way. The real subject being whether Pix has a right to be credited for his crappy coding skills or not. And he doesnt. This is something we will see in end of 2008. Just wait, Zorvan. Np3cube will win that lawsuit.
    Try looking at the regular case AFTER that, where Farlan?NPcube tried once again to stall the case, only this time the court gave a fatass NO. They're actions in both cases have finally worn on the courts patience. So no, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of winning.

     

    By the way, alt accounts aren't allowed here. You know the rules.



    On March 13th, 2008, the Court dismissed NPCube, which was accusing VWORLD of unfair competition and damage to its reputation. But of course, this is not the most interesting point since the Court also convicted NPCube for its non-respect of the agreement reached between both Parties upon its usage of the 2002 V-world technology for the development of Dark and Light/Mafate, a technology which never belonged to NPCube/Farlan.

     

    This sounds like a valid reason why NPCube did not publish the judgement even if its manager Mr C. Jacquet promised to do so a few months ago... (but fortunately,the judgement is published here)

    Ho, BTW, I've learnt something new  today: It seems I was not originally a programmer and I used to work in the food sector...  I'm going to tell my wife on the spot, because she's always been so distrustful I could cook noodles properly on my own... Ok, I must confess, I used to work in a big (French) restaurant for a quite long time (ZtyX was not even born) called Infogrames (Atari now, as everybody knows): we made some good cooking, for a time.

    On a side note, speaking about rules, I'm still wondering who still feels it so much compulsory to spread such rumors, false allegations and such outrageous slandering and deceptive comments, since all of this interesting literature comes quite in total contradiction with the Courts' decisions.

    Beyond all expectations, I dare say. I can but salute the constancy.

     

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    Originally posted by ZtyX2


     
    Originally posted by Cholayna


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX


     

      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

     

    PIX was a bad programmer and his code was a mess. I know this because I read a journal made by PIX's former partner. PIX was originally in the food business. He is a business man and he is no passionate programmer. At least he wasn't back then and so he wasn't as skilled as other people in that field. His friend on the other hand was. I think his name is Campion. That's from the top of my head. .. But anyway. When PIX split with Campion he took the technology they had worked on and he left his lifelong friend Campion in the dust because PiX wanted to live on Reunion island in the sun with his wife. Campion stayed back in France and he also kept the engine they had developed. But, PIX was so bad at programming that the new person - an expert Campion hired (another friend) simply could not continue working on it. Only PIX could work with his mess code. And that is the truth. Pix worked with the programmer who was to replace PIX, but the code was so messed up and badly organized that only PIX could work with it. .. Campion's friend came into his office and just said it. Plain and simple. He could not work with PIX's code. It was a total mess.

    And that is really the truth. And what happened later with Dark and LIght is actually just karma kicking Pix's butt. Also.. In Dark And Light that same engine was used. So when he left the project the others could not continue working on it efficiently! Pix was the one working with it.. That is why so many features had to be taken out of the game. And that is what they are struggling with now. They need to replace PIX's work with a code that they can actually work with.

    The DnL devs appeared incompetent for the people who didn't know. .. But, if you know Phillipe Campion (yea I think that was his name). If you know his story and have followed Dark and LIght. Then you know these things about what happened. .. So yes. He was incompetent and a bad friend who left behind his partner Campión. And he left Vuuar and all the people who were dreaming about a big and immersive online world. ... I still hope they succeed. Now they are without this guy Pix. Snailgames is a competent Chinese company. They are passionate and.. well. Things might come around after all! Im positive :)

     

    Ya know? I got an entirely different idea from reading that diary page that you seem to profess is absolute proof and absolute truth.

    I got the picture that this other guy, Campion?, was riding on Pix's back. He sounded more like a greedy money hungry go-boy than a "competent programmer". Seems to me this guy is disgruntled that he wasnt able to continue to ride the tech wagon Pix had produced. He even stated himself, he saw it more as a "money machine" than anything else.

    Seems to me you are also missing some very important legal actions that occured that shed light on this very disgruntled and greedy man. In fact, the word "thief" comes to mind........ but you really should do your own homework --- there are legal papers you can take a look at that may just PROVE another side.

    Seems to me karma has already kicked his greedy little butt and Farlan is eating up the roots of their own garden of deceit.

    Then again, for someone to completely disregard what a court of law has already said, guess you wouldnt believe in the integrity of the law courts to find the truth anyhow. Ya know? Acceptance of things you cannot change is a very noble act.

    They were friends and they supported each other in different ways. But, Campion was a decent guy and unlike his partner who chose to leave his friend behind and screw him over big time.  ... Obviously, you did not read the journal with an open mind if you now claim that Pix is in fact a good programmer. .. Campion tried to continue his own dream (he was the one who came up with the idea in the first place. Pix just hopped along cause they were friends and PIx had some more money. THen when Pix saw the money aspect he just went for it and eventually stole it.) That is what it is all about now for him. The money. It was never about anything else.

     

    The court decided that Pix wasn't to blame for the bad PR of DNL. The court never judged on his personality and how he screwed over his lifelong friend, his new business partners at NP3Cube (DnL project) and basically all the fans waiting for DnL to be THE game. .. Unfortunately, courts don't convict people for being money hogs and opportunists.


    Hmmm, If we take your stance on this, then we would HAVE to believe that _Pix_ was also responsible for the content in the game too, at least according to you. _Pix_ was also responsible for all the other things wrong with it -- broken armor, broken quests, broken weapons, broken crafting, broken everything!

    According to you, _Pix_ was responsible for, ...welp....everything! Seems to me Devs whom wish to produce a massive multiplayer game would have more than 1 programmer ???!!!!????

    _Pix_'s tech is responsible for what you see in the background -- the environment. Nothing else.  You know...that beautiful and awe-inspiring scenery when you fly a broken balloon? Ah come on, you know what I am talking about! That realistic scenery of which you can see for miles?? Come on, come on, the scenery Farlan and EVEN THE FANBOIS rave about as the ONLY good thing in DNL????  Yeh, yeh, --- THAT is what _Pix_ and his technology are responsible for ----

    NOT broken content, broken launcher, broken armor, broken weapons, broken mobs, broken everything. and NOT Missing content, missing files in the launcher, missing armor, missing weapons, missing mobs, missing 90% of the entire game.

    I will also note "personalities" do NOT produce technology, people themselves do. Seems to me you are trying any angle you can, including "personalities" to conclude that Farlan will win. That is a very ignorant (unlearned) statement.

     

     

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Originally posted by Cholayna


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX2


     
    Originally posted by Cholayna


     
    Originally posted by ZtyX


     

      How was PiX incompetent? It was the owners of DnL that were incompetent. They stripped a guy of his job and thought they could use his code and knew what to do with it. They themselves screwed up the game by not knowing how to code. If you look at PiX's recent projects you can clearly see he knows how to program and is pretty good at it. DnL 2.0 will be yet another joke on the MMO community. Theirs a reason they have to remove the code, they lost the battle. (Or at least mostly lost) Either way , the company is a joke and should be taken down. Why must they keep thinking people will play into their scam.

     

    PIX was a bad programmer and his code was a mess. I know this because I read a journal made by PIX's former partner. PIX was originally in the food business. He is a business man and he is no passionate programmer. At least he wasn't back then and so he wasn't as skilled as other people in that field. His friend on the other hand was. I think his name is Campion. That's from the top of my head. .. But anyway. When PIX split with Campion he took the technology they had worked on and he left his lifelong friend Campion in the dust because PiX wanted to live on Reunion island in the sun with his wife. Campion stayed back in France and he also kept the engine they had developed. But, PIX was so bad at programming that the new person - an expert Campion hired (another friend) simply could not continue working on it. Only PIX could work with his mess code. And that is the truth. Pix worked with the programmer who was to replace PIX, but the code was so messed up and badly organized that only PIX could work with it. .. Campion's friend came into his office and just said it. Plain and simple. He could not work with PIX's code. It was a total mess.

    And that is really the truth. And what happened later with Dark and LIght is actually just karma kicking Pix's butt. Also.. In Dark And Light that same engine was used. So when he left the project the others could not continue working on it efficiently! Pix was the one working with it.. That is why so many features had to be taken out of the game. And that is what they are struggling with now. They need to replace PIX's work with a code that they can actually work with.

    The DnL devs appeared incompetent for the people who didn't know. .. But, if you know Phillipe Campion (yea I think that was his name). If you know his story and have followed Dark and LIght. Then you know these things about what happened. .. So yes. He was incompetent and a bad friend who left behind his partner Campión. And he left Vuuar and all the people who were dreaming about a big and immersive online world. ... I still hope they succeed. Now they are without this guy Pix. Snailgames is a competent Chinese company. They are passionate and.. well. Things might come around after all! Im positive :)

     

    Ya know? I got an entirely different idea from reading that diary page that you seem to profess is absolute proof and absolute truth.

    I got the picture that this other guy, Campion?, was riding on Pix's back. He sounded more like a greedy money hungry go-boy than a "competent programmer". Seems to me this guy is disgruntled that he wasnt able to continue to ride the tech wagon Pix had produced. He even stated himself, he saw it more as a "money machine" than anything else.

    Seems to me you are also missing some very important legal actions that occured that shed light on this very disgruntled and greedy man. In fact, the word "thief" comes to mind........ but you really should do your own homework --- there are legal papers you can take a look at that may just PROVE another side.

    Seems to me karma has already kicked his greedy little butt and Farlan is eating up the roots of their own garden of deceit.

    Then again, for someone to completely disregard what a court of law has already said, guess you wouldnt believe in the integrity of the law courts to find the truth anyhow. Ya know? Acceptance of things you cannot change is a very noble act.

    They were friends and they supported each other in different ways. But, Campion was a decent guy and unlike his partner who chose to leave his friend behind and screw him over big time.  ... Obviously, you did not read the journal with an open mind if you now claim that Pix is in fact a good programmer. .. Campion tried to continue his own dream (he was the one who came up with the idea in the first place. Pix just hopped along cause they were friends and PIx had some more money. THen when Pix saw the money aspect he just went for it and eventually stole it.) That is what it is all about now for him. The money. It was never about anything else.

     

    The court decided that Pix wasn't to blame for the bad PR of DNL. The court never judged on his personality and how he screwed over his lifelong friend, his new business partners at NP3Cube (DnL project) and basically all the fans waiting for DnL to be THE game. .. Unfortunately, courts don't convict people for being money hogs and opportunists.


    Hmmm, If we take your stance on this, then we would HAVE to believe that _Pix_ was also responsible for the content in the game too, at least according to you. _Pix_ was also responsible for all the other things wrong with it -- broken armor, broken quests, broken weapons, broken crafting, broken everything!

     

    According to you, _Pix_ was responsible for, ...welp....everything! Seems to me Devs whom wish to produce a massive multiplayer game would have more than 1 programmer ???!!!!????

    _Pix_'s tech is responsible for what you see in the background -- the environment. Nothing else.  You know...that beautiful and awe-inspiring scenery when you fly a broken balloon? Ah come on, you know what I am talking about! That realistic scenery of which you can see for miles?? Come on, come on, the scenery Farlan and EVEN THE FANBOIS rave about as the ONLY good thing in DNL????  Yeh, yeh, --- THAT is what _Pix_ and his technology are responsible for ----

    NOT broken content, broken launcher, broken armor, broken weapons, broken mobs, broken everything. and NOT Missing content, missing files in the launcher, missing armor, missing weapons, missing mobs, missing 90% of the entire game.

    I will also note "personalities" do NOT produce technology, people themselves do. Seems to me you are trying any angle you can, including "personalities" to conclude that Farlan will win. That is a very ignorant (unlearned) statement.

     

     

    Damn the torpedoes!! Slam Dunk!! Boom!! Headshot!

     

    WTFBBQPWNED!!

     

    Cho, you are so elegant in your laying of the smackdown.

     

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