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NO Dueling and No Collision?

DezlocDezloc Member CommonPosts: 52

SO by now everyone knows that there will be no type of PVP, including dueling and/or Arena fighting of any kind.  My question is will any of this be implemented later on in future expansions of is EQ2 going to be a pure PVE?  And if that is the case then why aren't they making PVE more immersive by adding PC/MOB collision?  As it stands now whatever mob attacks your party could theoritically bypass your tanks by simply walking through them and attack your casters.  Also on the flipside what's to stop me from simply running through all mobs to get to my destination?

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  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875
    There are all ready 8 posts about PvP, ask questions on another. All this is going to attract whiners, EQ2 haters and r1tual. There will be aggro(you cant just run around)- I think it will be the person that does the most damage(or attacks first) the mobs will concentrate on.

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  • styles74styles74 Member Posts: 222

     

    This is a good question.  I am not sure I have read on tanks ability to hold aggro (if that is what you are asking) and also this leads into collision.  If tanks can't hold aggro and the mob can just walk through them, I can see a LOT of dead support mages.  This may not be so crucial to a necromancer or a nuker, but to the poor cleric its significant. image

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  • PsouthPsouth Member Posts: 128
    Consensual pvp duels were just confirmed for being included in the game at release. No details as of yet though.

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  • ZarlanZarlan Member Posts: 58

    PvP will be implemented after release. It will either be an expansion or an in-game update.

    Collision is really hard to implement in MMOs, and I don't see that happening. If you mean characters no being able to go through each other, then yes, there is colleision. If you mean object collision where an avitar can run into something or hit soething and it move, then no there is none. Most FPSs don't evn have that, and it will be along time before a decent MMO has collision detection (excluding Second Life).

    In the future, look to other threads for information before posting on a topic. There are several threads discussing the lack of PvP at release, just as a heads up. ::::35::

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  • OminisOminis Member Posts: 1,015

    Although the PvP question has gotten kind of annoying lately, the question about collisions is a very good one. Like Zarlan said collision with the enviroment (such as rocks, trees, etc) usually doesn't happen in MMORPGs. Of course it works with bigger things like walls and cliffs, but usually that is a ton of extra work to make sure that you don't walk through every type of object. The one type that I hope that they will have (its a big part of group combat and tactics) is collision between characters and creatures. I hate it in some games where a enemy you are fighting can walk through whoever is tanking to hit on the mages. Knowing how much work they have put into EQII, I doubt that there will be such a problem. Maybve someone who has played the game might be able to tell us what types of collision there are?

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  • KunarickKunarick Member UncommonPosts: 348
    There will be collision, just look at Eq1, they are implementing it.  Althought it does have some bugs in it right now, they have fixed most.  I see no reason why it wouldn't exsist in Eq2.

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    I can confirm that there are indeed collissions, both between PC/PC and between PC/NPC. Not being implemented, already in the game.

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  • ZarlanZarlan Member Posts: 58

    Does that mean you can move them if you run into them or merely that you cannot pass through them?

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    Can't pass through them.

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  • DezlocDezloc Member CommonPosts: 52

    excellent, thanks about the update

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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    So how do they plan to prevent ogres, and the like from blocking exits, like they used to do in EQ? Particularly dungeon entrances, so people either couldn't get in, or even worse so the couldn't get out.

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  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627



    Originally posted by Coldmeat

    So how do they plan to prevent ogres, and the like from blocking exits, like they used to do in EQ? Particularly dungeon entrances, so people either couldn't get in, or even worse so the couldn't get out.
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    I guess you just need to kill them...
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