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Why use an older beta client for open beta?
Sneakers
Member Posts: 29
They said that the open beta client is an older version that the close beta. The closed beta is the newer client, so why would they not have had us testing that client? It doesn't make sense to use an older build, when you've already supposedly fixed, upgraded it, and moved on.
Now they say they are taking this open beta (old) code and injecting in to the closed (new) beta code? Uh, why? That will just introduce a new crop of problems because that client isn't being stress tested.
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Makes no sense to me either.
ditto
Because the OB client has electrolites and thats what beta testers crave!
When I read on the official forums from the game director saying there were injecting old code with bugs into the "newest" build the closed testers are using to find out what is going on with the zoning crashes and 15-30 minute zone loading times, I was like WTF!?!?!?!
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm beginning to think a launch delay could be in the cards. Remember, in their financials statement to investors, they warned the investors based on open beta results, a launch delay could happen.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
they said the same thing with AO. you figure it out.
its a surprise
lol at Idiocracy quote. And ya, makes no sense. Why not test the newest version so it's ready for release?Because the OB client has electrolites and thats what beta testers crave!
"Alright boys we are releasing the new Toyota 2009 line soon! So go and test the 2007 line!"
"Why?"
"Because I feel like it."
Seriously, I have been trying to figure out why this did this also. Are older builds better for stress testing servers? And if so, why? I'm not being a smart ass, I wish someone who actually knows the reasoning could tell us all why it was done this way in a way that makes sense.
direct answer to the topic's question: No.
Maybe they are focused on testing the servers, zone populations, spawn density, server populations etc atm... you know... stress test stuff, and not as concerned about the client.
Just a thought
that would be like microsoft stressing the capabilities of Vista using win95
It doesn't make sense, I don't see why the older build would be better at determining spawn points, populations, etc than the newer one. Plus now they have two builds they have to worry about, the closed beta and now the older build and have to keep both running. Just doesn't make sense.
Maybe because they had to modify the client to create a hard cap of level 13, one that also has a bunch of the zones and unused art assets culled out.
1) That takes time to implement, it probably took someone a few weeks to do so, by the time they finished modifying the version they had a new seperate version is already better.
2) Do you really want to be doing that the release version and trying to maintain two version of code?
... transmitted on 100% recycled electrons ...
Its a load of crap tbh man. I can't believe people are actually swallowing this. Do people honestly think this is whats going on? uh...??? We'll probably get something quite similar to this build at launch. Funcom aren't gonna magically change these problems in 2 weeks. why would they fork up an old peice of crap to 50000 potential customers? Theres waaaay too much bad things been floating around this game lately. I'm beginning to see why the NDA wasn't lifted.
And i'm not just being a doomsayer. I really wanted this game to be a success as i would have loved to get into a good mmorpg again. I'm just not willing to pay to play Vanguard 2...maybe in a year if its fixed.
PS if this game turns out to be great at launch ill gladly eat these words! Its just too much to hope for though...
there are actually several builds of the client. The beta clients are designed to stress and test out different aspects of the game, the servers, and stability.
They already have a retail client, that's something else entirely.
Older builds being not as optimised are going to be more stressful on hardware. Seems pretty simple to me.
better get some salt an pepper man, 'cause those words are gopnna taste like shit.
better get some salt an pepper man, 'cause those words are gopnna taste like shit.
Same old arguement. Someone makes a valid point = They dont understand the beta process. lol...you honestly think funcom sent out this crap build on purpose? knowing that it would create loads of bad publicity? spare me...
There have been many other games that have claimed this very same thing and you know what happened during launch? You discover you're played the exact same build you were in beta, bugs and all.
better get some salt an pepper man, 'cause those words are gopnna taste like shit.
honestly, if you're such an expert why don't you just step up and explain to us why funcom would release a version that could potentially scare off thousands of players as it seems to be doing. in my unexperienced mind there is nothing using an older client could be testing that would be more accurate than just using a closer to retail version.
the only explanation I can think of is that they don't want people experiencing the game for free, but I feel they'd be better served giving us the whole experience as a draw to the game. so please, enlighten us.
you got a big kick out of saying "scientific process" didn't you
better get some salt an pepper man, 'cause those words are gopnna taste like shit.
Ok you do realise this is an "open beta" 2 weeks before release right? How much change do you think is going to happen in 2 weeks? Some debugging and minor adjustments sure. Better server performance I would hope so.I have heard this same thing in Vanguard, Tabula Rasa and Potbs. Each of those games people said "it's only beta quit whining" A couple weeks later the game went live and guess what, it was pretty much just like the beta. What you see is what you get. If you like the game great, but people need to stop kidding themselves that the game will be dramatically different in 2 weeks.
Open and close beta testers are playing exactly the same version atm. There is no other client anywhere around. The same bull was told to Closed beta testers (while playing lvl 1-13) and when they implemented the "latest" patch the game even got worse.
So no - there is no miracle patch. This is it.
Course, I could be wrong. Maybe i misread or something.
It's a proven historical fact that beer saved humankind.
So does anyone know if those of us (not in beta) but did get into the beta pvp weekend will have to uninstall THAT client?
Each time I log in, it says there was an error trying to download a patch. (although it did originaly patch up just fine, to that point)
Don't confuse a players ability, with a class being Over Powered.
-T
That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.
That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.
i can't find whatever post you're talking about...maybe its being bumped several pages back by all the negative threads.