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do not play this game, it is trash::details within from a CB tester
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ah lol guy got edited, anyways he was trying to say they made fixes and updated in CB they did not, this game company neglects the game entirely too much, makes you wonder if they are fit for running a business ratherless a mmo.
now they will bring cash shop into game soon, try to charge you and will neglect this game and you will be paying for a game that recieves no attention or updates from the game company. Would you pay for a service like that? I would not..
there are many games coming out that are huge titles and where devs, gm, customer service actually listen to you and update their games:
rohan, aion, tcos, age of conan, etc etc.. do not bother playing requiem. unless you are into wasting your time.
Making an excuse for a game because it's in CB is VERY weak.No game on earth will hardly change at all after CB.There may be a few tweaks here and there but CB will give you EXACTLY what you need to see in a game to garner an accurate opinion.The biggest changes ever made to a game is prolly VANGUARd and i don't exactly see the masses knocking down the doors to get in.So first impressions are the norm in every case,if you can't leave a good first impression from your game,do NOT expect them to return,simple as that.
I sort of agree that maybe the OP shouldn't tell others to not play just because it wasn't quite up to snuff for his ideas.I think the OP did sort of like some of the game but found each idea didn't quite go far enough to please him.This isn't so bad as a game that is totally a pile of junk and not worth the time of day.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Making an excuse for a game because it's in CB is VERY weak.No game on earth will hardly change at all after CB.There may be a few tweaks here and there but CB will give you EXACTLY what you need to see in a game to garner an accurate opinion.The biggest changes ever made to a game is prolly VANGUARd and i don't exactly see the masses knocking down the doors to get in.So first impressions are the norm in every case,if you can't leave a good first impression from your game,do NOT expect them to return,simple as that.
I sort of agree that maybe the OP shouldn't tell others to not play just because it wasn't quite up to snuff for his ideas.I think the OP did sort of like some of the game but found each idea didn't quite go far enough to please him.This isn't so bad as a game that is totally a pile of junk and not worth the time of day.
wow another person with a brain, thank god. and vanguard was exactly how it was since like beta 0 pretty much until about yaer later, and of course by then population was under 15k, dupes, no one left, hehe vanguard and eq2 both got big revamps years later but too late.but yep, cb is gonna be exactly what you see it is now on open, barely anythign will change.
very bad game!
I don't want to get into a huge flame war here, but I played Requiem for a month or so , and although it was (as CB is now closed) lacking a little in content, it was quite enjoyable.
Now, if you check the site out, Gravity say they are addressing the following things before Open Beta:
More instance
More quests
More races/classes
More weapons and customization
Maybe the new stuff will suck, but maybe try and play it again AFTER they add new content before you start complaining how there isn't anything in the game.
I've played in a few betas now, and the one unifying factor is that they always lack content, because you need to make sure you have a game and servers that actually work before you put the rest in.
If you play closed betas then expect a very VERY unpolished product.
To anyone out there thats considering Requiem, give it a try, don't get put off by people screaming how poor it is before they even open to the public.
it was open to the public anyone with 5minutes could get account and play it, it had such bad reception from players and the population died so fast, of course they trying to delay the 'closed beta' and taking their time to open beta.
the game is failure even more so than fury and vanguard. It is okay for a little while but after that the game fails miserably as a game and even more as mmo. If you want to play a crappy no population game i suggest you go and play a console game and not this.
So the best reason you have why the game is 'bad' is 'because i said so' ?
First off i have tested alot of mmo's in closed beta and open beta. Whoever said that a game is not built apon after closed beta is a moron. Even during open beta games get new content including quest, armor, weapons, skilld etc. To say otherwise is a true sign of ignorance. To shun a game because it wasnt up to your expectations during closed beta is also ignorant, mainly because closed beta all you get is a basic build to test the primary functions of the game. For those that thought CB was a true sign of what the game had to offer must have missed the massive update that will be included in OB. Pfft tbh after reading alot of these post i can understand why some of you have such low levels of comprehension.
Man, its hard to keep listening to all these people who insist things will change once it gets out of beta; the chances of it happening based on the current ratio is like 0.5%. They never change because it costs a lot of money and time which none of these games seem to want to give. I havent played requiem, im simply responding to the person saying "give it a break its in beta, things very rarely change on such a grand scale yet I always see posts like this.
Ya its pretty rare that the give it a break its beta excuse actually has merit. But this time it might come true cause the stuff is already existing in the other localizations.
ALSO quoting the guy before this post ^"First off i have tested alot of mmo's in closed beta and open beta. Whoever said that a game is not built apon after closed beta is a moron. Even during open beta games get new content including quest, armor, weapons, skilld etc. To say otherwise is a true sign of ignorance. To shun a game because it wasnt up to your expectations during closed beta is also ignorant, mainly because closed beta all you get is a basic build to test the primary functions of the game. For those that thought CB was a true sign of what the game had to offer must have missed the massive update that will be included in OB. Pfft tbh after reading alot of these post i can understand why some of you have such low levels of comprehension."
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So, you must have only read the first few posts, the OP said he has tested many games both open and closed beta, you act like you are the only person who has ever Beta tested a game?
Closed beta DOES give you a good idea of what the game will FEEL like
now there is a lot they can do to fine tune the game, add in quests, add in new features, but the play control the graphics (generally) and a majority of the games content will not change from a beta to a final product.
Why would a company go through over a year of development and then get a few bad reviews and say HOLD ON, lets go and revamp a whole lot of our game!
No! They're a business, they will cut corners and they will get away with what they can to push their product onto the market and make some money.
Its called Capitalisim!
Also, its a beta testers job to point out problems, now I'm not saying the OP is an angel, but it sounds like hes trying to save us all some money and time.
Thanks!
I have tested many games too, there is a difference though. All mmos are crap in early beta stages. They all usually play about the same as we experienced in this closed beta or worse. The difference is how they progress from this point. Some make sweeping changes, some only fix bugs. It really depends on the developer. Even the things you mentioned can change depending on the developer. Also I don't think the controls need any changing, the controls are great, the character graphics also look good. I can see the environment needing work, but its something that can be worked on at this stage. Same with content.
There are companies who go "HOLD ON, lets go and revamp a whole lot of our game!" including the one who is making Requiem. Gravity has shown Ragnarok Online 2 at Tokyo Game Show before its intended release in 2005, and thats exactly what they did.
Well Jerid13, to you it may sound like he tries to save your time and money you may spend in this game...sorry but i'm not agree
. The autor just cried because there was no PATCH and FIXES during the closed beta...and i mean...most of F2P games don't make patches for small closed betas, they simply fix it all after the CB before release OB, so crying all over and saying a game is not worth it to play because the staff didn't work on it during a closed beta it's just what a no brain kid can do.
I've played many CB of F2P/P2P games and OB aswell, so i may have an idea of how it works.
So i keep saying on what i think, this dude it's just angry because of the ban from requiem forums and game, so he started to flame the game.And yeah...he says too much but i don't believe a single word, he says he got banned just for asking...no sir...you prolly asked in a bad way...such as "WTF this sh1t game doesn't get fking patches in the closed beta? r u staff drinking beer instead of working? wtf? cry! cry! i wanna patches!" something like that i believe because i can't trust that anyone gets banned from the game and forums for asking nicely
About Vanguard, i played in the CB and after it released...believe me...in the CB it was the crappiest game fully bugged around, but hey...such as in any CB and now it's a pretty decent game. And the phrase "this game is dying there are less than 20 people left on each server from a total of 15k" just made me laught, as that shows he didn't play as many CB as he said. Did he hopes 15k people were gonna play during the CB? also 20 people is an huge exageration.
Be careful, that dude might be the Angry German Kid from utube /rolf
Regards.
BTW, edit to say that i haven't played requiem CB, just because i didn't even notice it was out, but i've been reading their forums for a few days and seems a nice game for the people there, that's why i'm going to try it out, what 1 person (and banned) says out of many other people won't make me change my mind.
I played CB and saying there were 20 ppl on at the end of testing is bogus. Two factors gave the illusion that player population was small: continents (zones) which had their own global channel and the fact that there were 3 independent game servers. So if you had a level 15 character on the first continent who globally shouted "Am I alone?", maybe 10-60% of players might respond and since the shout didn't reach the other continents or servers no one there would respond. I'm not aware of there being any option to list all logged in users, but if you were in a guild you could check member status. In my guild, CBA, there were usually 7-10 players on at any given time.
As for the 15k keys..keep in mind that few of those were taken by people who were there to test. Many keys probably went unused, were gathered for resale or used by people who logged in only once or twice to see what the game was like.
The game has potential and personally I'll wait a while before passing judgement.
well for the people who actually were playing this trash, they know that there was indeed less than 20 people per server. the game is huge failure. Just go read the forums if you do not believe me, not some fanboy who comes here trying to dispute the facts I already presented. He needs to go look at screenshots and daydream about it some more.
the simple fact is, the game is complete, they attempted to port it over, there is NOTHIGN to fix, maybe improvements that the NOrth amercian crowd want, but overall the game is complete, its a flop, and gravity has no clue how to run a game or what to do when porting.
O M G! a smart person on the forums!
How can u talk about huge failure in the end of a CB because so few ppl actually were playing 24/7 like u prolly did? As far as i know, is not a must play a CB until the end, most of ppl try it out for a few lvls to see how its gonna look like, and then move over to a different game until OB begins....so stop talking crap.
As i said before many times, u didnt play as many CB's as u point out, and much less unknown games like this. I mean, lot of ppl didnt notice about this game in CB, and still a lot of ppl dont know about it right now.
The OB begins tomorrow, and for most of ppl this game together with Rohan are gonna be the best F2P mmorpgs out there.
So as said above, u simply were/are angry because the ban u got, as ppl said, and i bet u are gonna play OB tomorrow.
Regards, and have fun in game tomorrow to everyone who is gonna try out the OB of this game.
Edit to laugh a bit more...lol
"the simple fact is, the game is complete, they attempted to port it over, there is NOTHIGN to fix, maybe improvements that the NOrth amercian crowd want, but overall the game is complete, its a flop, and gravity has no clue how to run a game or what to do when porting" those are Napocalypse words.
Now explain to everyone where did u gather the info to say that the game is complete when not even korean requiem is complete! So yea...another pointless flame from someone who doesnt knows anything else than cry over and flame.
If it was complete then it should release the game instead of an OB i believe.
Seems like u still didnt get the meaning of CB or OB. Lets try to explain u in a way u could understand.... B-E-T-A---I-S---A---T-E-S-T-I-N-G---P-H-A-S-E---T-O---H-E-L-P---I-M-P-R-O-V-E---A---G-A-M-E.
Now repeat it 20 times or more if needed.
Also i dont know if u quoted CleffyII because u was being sarcastic or just because u didnt even unterstand a single word of what he said :S but i bet it was the second...so l2read, as he didnt say changes werent gonna be made, he just pointed out that it might be true that they make changes (fixes), since the game already exists in other countries (locations)
lol they are not changing a thing, you are an ignorant person, but a few here understand what you see is what you get.
and no this is not even in the same ballpark of any mmo out there as being good. Yep it is beta and I tested and gave feedback and did others and no changes ever took place. This game is a waste of time for anyone to even bother with
rehashed dungeons, tiny dungeons, no effort at all. Have fun killing the same model of mobs and same model dungeons all the time
And u call me ignorant?u keep flaming because there was no change in A SMALL CLOSED BETA fixing all ur wishes. Its funny, coz u really have a serious problem with reading, im so glad that requiem ban kids like u. Tell me F2P games that makes all the changes, patches, new content and all that u claim for in a Closed Beta that lasts for a few weeks. Every post u make, proves that u are more brainless than before.
As far as i know, the OB begins in a couple of hours, and the point of CB is to get reports for future fixes before OB goes live, so u have no right to complain about, at least until the OB goes out. After OB releases, u may flame for fixes that hasnt been done, or anything like that, but until then u have no right. You have the brain of a 6 years old kid, crying all over the forums because they didnt give u what u wanted at the time u wanted, so i advice u dont play CB? play full released games maybe? i doubt u played more than 2 or 3 CB.
Well Venaja, with the 250 new quests added from CB to OB the staff from requiem forums already said people would get to mid-high lvl in no time. I usually dont play F2P games for a long, but maybe i'll play this one until a decent P2P comes out (not AoC), as this one seems nice to me, and the new content just comes with the time, thats nothing new.
Another thing that makes me feel the game is gonna be pretty decent is that the OB might be short (tho they'll wipe the servers) meaning they will hurry patching the game and stuff, instead of launch an OB for years such as the other F2P games, but there is not any info about this, just rumours.
Also, seems like there wont be the same content in the russian version than this one, words from requiem staff :"We are not the same entity as Russian Requiem team. We decide our time tables as well as have unique content thanks to our localization team" so dont take russian OB as an example of how its gonna be.
So...we'll see how OB goes, maybe it'll sux or maybe not, but i'll give it a go for sure
i give wow a lot of credit for having great marketing and appealing to masses and gaining huge popularity that dwarfs any past mmo. but I will never give it credit for being a real, or a good mmo. It pretty much ruined coming mmo's as they are trying to tap into that casual./kid market and we will never see any hardcore mmos ever again IMHO
to that one guy, I accept paypal or egold for that 100k $ US you owe me, since you are wrong on me having the client.
WoW or any game for that matter is as hardcore as you want it to be. Too easy? Stop using the best weapons and armor. Try doing missions over your level in subpar equipment. Etc, etc.
There's nothing wrong with WoW. It's has its own strengths and weaknesses just like any other MMO. I enjoyed the heck out of it for about 9 months before I moved on. Honestly, the "kid" stereotype for the game is just stupid. There's hundreds of thousands (millions?) of adults playing the game.
I wasn't gonna answer u again Napo, but u kinda make me laugh /rolf /rolf /rolf
I didn't like WoW for it's graphics either, i though it was a game for kids, but i subscribed to try it out, and the game is no where near that. At least for PvE side, u need kinda a couple of mature people to make raids succesful (and i mean mature brain, not actually 20+ years old needed). It's the most beaufitul, well done and tactic PvE you will find out there in case you didn't know, i even miss it, tho i hate WoW because it's really hardcore if you RAID and it becomes a job more than a game.
Is not like you can succesful kill bosses with random people for first time and Vent/TS is very important for raiding, to most of guilds it takes months of daily raiding to advance a bit in PvE, so talk about harcore lol. Until now, i haven't seen better PvE than the one WoW has, simply as that.
So that just proves that you don't know a crap when you write your posts.
Edit: As u didn't play WoW, i'll explain you what a raid is, once u get to the max level, you go with your guild through dungeons to 10-20 ppl or 40 ppl ( pre-expansion). Try to do a raid with 20 inmature kids talking crap on Vent if you can, where 1 death may become the wipe of the whole raid, which means wasting at least, 5-10 mins like minimum of waiting. That shows how WoW is just for kids as you say lol
Anyway this is kinda offtopic as i don't want to make 10 posts talking about WoW cons and pros. The thread is more oriented to how inmature you are right now flaming on threads and crying all over.
my god you , for lack of better term, noobies to the mmo scene play wow and think its the only mmo to ever have raids. and from my old eq guildees who played WOW< the raids are a joke. I know what raisd are, i was guild leader, raid leader, MT in my old eq guild for over 6 years.
And you do not need teamspeak or vent for a raid, thats plain retarded, you need good player, which WOW lacks. No wow is not and never will be hardcore, its for kids , it is a starter/learner/introduction mmorpg, that starts letting you attempt to learn to raid, group and play with other people.
haha a raid wipe takes 5-10 minutes to regroup/rebuff etc...haha shows what the extent and difficulty of a raid in WOW is right there. please go play EQ and then come back here and say WOW is a good Mmorpg, because you know what? You cannot do so once you play a real mmo.
it is immature not inmature, shows what grade your in, they have not gotten around to that word for your pselling test this week yet eh? use firefox at least they will give you a little red line showing you mispelled something, maybe you can learn something new each day by your posts on how WOW has raids, is a good game (LAFF @ both statements). I was raiding before you ever even had a computer, please go away, or back to WOW so i don't gotta listen to another kid in world chat in a mmo about how WOW raids were hard.
Another attempt to look so mature?
For your info, i've played EQ2, so yeah, i might know how the raids are there, and you didn't play WoW, so maybe you should learn a bit about it first before talk crap. The point of that you don't need TS/Vent to make a succesful raid with "your pro players" makes me laugh, as if you have to type what each person has to do in the chat, you'd spend quite a bit time.
And no...is not that ohhh 15 minutes wasted, kids bed time...it's more like ohh 15 mins wasted, i gotta go to sleep to get up to work tomorrow, do u know what is that?
is not like everyone can spend 8-12 hours playing everyday.
The point of WoW stole all their content from other games....dude...every game has something based in other game...so what do you say? are you still in dreamland? /rolf
Personaly, if you don't use TS/Vent playing a raiding mmorpg...you must be very anti-social i have to say, actually i've laughed so much and had incredibly fun talking by vent when there was not a BOSS FIGHT, in a boss fight Vent keeps clear, only 1 or 2 speaks, have you ever heard of that? maybe your pro guild in EQ was so childish and dumb to make what you say on Vent, so thats why you didn't bother using it.
And yeah...you seems to laugh so much about a GAME YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED, but i shall remember you, i played EQ2, and the raiding there is not that good and tactic, requires less intelligence actually.
Does leveling time means a game is bad? i prefer get to max level in less time and enjoy high end content earlier than just spend half of your lifetime grinding to reach the max lvl.... Also, leveling speed of WoW and EQ is almost equal, go play WoW and let's see if you get to max lvl within a few days as you say lol. Maybe you read somewhere that you can get to max lvl in a few days of PLAYED TIME, knowing the game A LOT...which is not the same, another proof of ur dumb knowdoledge
Another thing is that WoW's bosses mostly are timer bosses that if you don't kill them within a stated time your raid will die almost 100%, poor kid living in dreamland...seems like i'm getting paid for speaking well of WoW lol, is not the case, as i don't like that much hardcore raiding games anymore.
So i advice you something, when you know a game and it's fully content, flame it because it's bad, but don't do it as a big mouth brainless kid just because you don't like it (just because you hear people say it's a bad game for kids).
And yeah, every wipe in WoW matters, A LOT for raiding progress. Since yes...1 wipe 10 mins of rebuffing and walking waste, but the timer of respawn trash mobs in the dungeon is counting ,maybe they respawn every 45 mins, or 1 hour, or 2 hours. So yea...it's very important to make good attempts and focus a lot, or you won't progress never, So count a bit, 10 mins of rebuffing and getting ready, 10-20 mins boss fight depending on how well you do it. So at least 20-25 mins of waste, 30-35 like max, that makes 2-3 attempts on a boss before wasting another while clearning the dungeon again. Maybe you are so pro that can get 20 people with you, without using vent, 1 shotting bosses that you never killed before, In many bosses phases you would fail without using Vent (unless using macro's for the chat, which is a crap spamming thing), if you don't believe it, just ask around. Average guilds make about 4-5 attempts a day on a progress raid, as there is not much more time when people has a real life outside their room, that simply proves that most of the raiding population in WoW are very mature. Inmature players don't get into raiding guilds, (they simply PvP or farm gold) either do people that doesn't use vent (or at least, it's very rare)
Well, you can keep the last paragraph for yourself, ill write it again for you, maybe you already forgot it
Please learn about MMO's before you come here trying to tell someone who has been around the scene longer than you will last in your entirety.
And ye, you talk about EQ, i try to defend WoW, but every one has it's own opinion, and there are many other games with good raiding, but hey! you seems to know only about EQ so i won't make your brain warm so much today.
Also, is not like im glad of being the one who spends more time playing mmorpgs, in many ways i see it more as an addiction for many people than a game itself, but at least i bother reading a bit more and learning about the game itself before flame on forums, ie as you.
Edit: Btw, weren't you the guy who wasn't gonna bother downloading requiem client again? already saw u ingame after OB released, shouting by region channel.
About my spelling...well, i dont spell it as it has to be, because it would make me waste more time replying to you, and you are not the best one to correct me. I learned english almost by myself, not in school, and is not my main language. Still, if i want to write in english as it has to be done i can do it, but why should i do it to answer you? I'd like to see how u actually speak spanish or portuguese :S
Meatimus, you are comparing WoW burning crusade raiding with EQ1 raiding, then why don't u better compare WoW old raiding with it? we all know WoW expansion raiding is 1000 times easier than the old 60's content that only a couple of guilds managed to raid deeper