Badly ported from console. Badly? You can change so many more settings and force much higher resolutions and graphics with PC and make it look 100x better than console!
No UI to speak of, had to macro all your spells. You did not have to macro anything, there are menus like any traditional FF RPG you could select everything from. Macros helped though for quicker casting of certain spells and was well done. Housing sucked. At first yes, then they added all the nice elementals you could add to ur char to help with crafting, farming, XPing and even death. ...and most recently they've opened housing to allow you to invite others in and show off what you've earned like nation flags for completing the storyies and sets of armor on display, furnishing or just a place to talk and have all other game chat nullified.
Crafting sucked. Why cause there was no menu to select pre-made recipies from telling u exactly what you were going to make. Thats the beauty of FFXI crafting cause you had to figure out what materials used to together would create what and then u had a chance of getting +1 and +2 gear that sold for millions more! This is one the best crafting systems ever cause it was very hard and challenging and extremely rewarding.
Fishing got nerfed so badly that it sucked too - so bad Id rather fish in EQ2, and I cant stand fishing in that game. Fishing got nerfed to combat gil sellers and its working very well! The new way you fish with the stamina bar and having to combat the fish back in forth to wear it out before u can reel it in successfully made it even better instead of just standing there and waiting. Not to mention the goblins they added all along coastlines to combat AFK fishing gil farmers.
Quests were hard to find... you practically had to click on everything just to find one. Another great option to the game, why is it so bad to have to go and talk to an NPC to see what they have to say instead of huge glowing ! and ? over their heads to lead you. Its an adventure you as a player is playing, not the developers telling u exactly what and where u have to go and talk too. Thats one of the major downfalls to MMOs these days is they're so easy and all u do is follow a path of glowing ! and ?
Zoning... as bad as EQ2. Zoning is one of the major points to this game I love and without them everyone would be dying so much more than usual. Enemies will chase you until u can zone out of the area{and yes they can hit and kill you during the initial zoning process} or they kill you. So much better than most new MMOs cause all u do in them is run 15 feet away and even though the enemy wants u dead...it just gives up and returns to its spawn point...lame! You have to pick the fights u think u can win and if not, hope you were near a zone you can get to in time if the enemy gets the upper hand, which can and does happen alot, since all enemies have varying ranges of difficulty and levels of defense and evasion! Even though the next enemy you target looks exactly like the one you just killed doesn't mean its gonna be an easy fight too...
Cutscenes. These are what define FFXI as one the best MMOs out there...they're telling a story and your character actively participates in each cutscene, more just on the sidelines and watching the events unfold, but still this is one the best things ever done in an MMO. Yeah they aren't all super fun time flashy or has voice, but you can still make a very emotional scene with the chars and just text. Personally I don't much care for voice...many times it ruins the scene and the characters.
Only those tribble things could be mages... loved them, but why? lol I'm assuming you're refering to the Tarutaru, and no they couldn't only be a mage{They excelled at being mages} but any race could play and be very good at any job. I've seen Tarutaru as Paladins and Samurai and Warriors and kick loads of ass sometimes even more so than other races. Certain class and race combinations are alot harder to play due to the racial traits, but all are more than possible with the better pieces of gear.
Those world codes, you had to know someone in a particular world just to get invited in...otherwise you got a random world. Guess its been far to long since you've played as the world codes are null and void now and you can select which world u want to play on. The Gold World Passes however are still there for friends and buddies to reap the rewards from them over time if you want.
The airship between areas was annoyingly long. 3-5 min? For an amazing view of Vana'diel and a realistic time sink which was perfect to go grab a drink refill or chat it up with friends is not bad at all. Again with the newer MMOs and the Quick Travel and Instant Warps everywhere is not fun and quickly became annoying if you can traverse the world in a few secs. I love so much that in FFXI u can't get places very fast and you have to be an adventurer and hope you can make it someplace in one piece each time. Why is all that content there in newer MMOs if you can just bypass it all eventually and never step foot in there again.
Economy was screwed up. Key Word, "WAS" Squares' Special Task Force has been doing a fabulous job at combating Gil Sellers unlike most all other MMOs that just kinda let them do what they want. They report every 1-2 months with details of who/what/where/when/how much gil was removed from the game and they actively let us know what is being changed to combat returning gil farmers. The econmy is still not back to what it was during launch months which it never will be, but prices have dropped over 3000% what they were with gil farmers running rampant. Last time I played before these changes stacks of crystals were selling between 6000gil and 20,000gil a stack, now its amazing if you can get 400-900gil a stack, though that was 8 months ago too....could have changed!
Graphics looked like they were filtered through a cheesecloth. Just need to change your settings in the config and in-game menus to max, and if thats not enough like I said above you can force much higher resolutions{like 100x better} via editing your hex codes which won't screw anything up if you follow directions, and you can find all that information here in this forums thread: FFXI Game Setup/Tweaking/Optimizing Q&A
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
Macros : FFXI has the best macro making system ever, not needed, it just makes you that much faster.
Airship times: Sorry I didn't realize that you wanted to zone instantly from one side of the world to the other, If you look up in some zones you actually SEE THE AIRSHIP FLY OVERHEAD, tell me another game that has that amount of realisim?
Player housing Is amazingly fun now, you can invite all your friends into your Mog house!
Tarutaru ARE NOT the only good mages, infact they make kinda poor black mages end game because they have such low HP and they die in one hit to most stuff. The great thing about this game is ANY RACE CAN BE ANY CLASS EFFECTIVELY.
The UI is easy to learn and pretty easy to understand you just hit the - Key and the side menu comes up, very similar to City of Heroes. Also you move just like most games ASDW, which is really easy.
FFXI is awesome on PS2 Xbox360 AND PC
I've played it on all 3 and each is unique but I prefer PC
Crafting in FFXI is the most unique out of any MMO out there, the entire game revolves around the crystal war and hence crafting. It may be complicated and at times confusing but there are many MANY fan sites out there now that can help guide you.
Fishing got Nerfed.... NO NO NO!!! Sorry it used to be that you'd wait for a chyme to sound and then you'd hit one button..... That was REAL difficult, now instead you have to actually tire out the fish and do some work to reel it in, IMAGINE THAT, its realistic.
Quests are hard to find? Um... Unlike WoW quests are not the point of this game, you do quests to get items not to get experiance, and if you have difficulty finding a quest perhaps you should use one of the many many many wiki/fansites that are out there to help guide you in the right direction, Sorry there is no GIANT EXCLAIMATION POINT over everyone's head.
Zoning does exsist in this world yes, but frankly every MMO has Zoning, even WoW.
Cut scenes ADD to the playability of a game in my opinion, why wouldn't you want STORYLINE in an RPG?
Tribbles? Thats a small fuzzy thing from Star Trek that is like a foot in diameter, a Tarutaru is nothing like a tribble...
YOU MAY NOW SELECT WHICH WORLD YOU START ON. World passes are a thing of the past.
The Economy WAS screwed up, now its possible to kill monsters for their items and sell them to NPC's to earn enough money to buy real items. I myself just farmed up a 250k item in a day killing Bats and selling their Blood to an NPC.
Cheesecloth? Um ... somethings wrong with your eyes or your monitor, do you clean it with your hankee you sneeze in?
All your complaints are outdated or jaded or straight out lies.
All your complaints are outdated or jaded or straight out lies.
That was offensive and just unnecessary.
I lied about nothing, nor was it jaded. Outdated, yes... since the last time I played was soon after that platinum edition was released. It was also an opinion post. The OP gave his opinion as to why he thought it was the best, I countered with my opinion - even if it is outdated.
Cheesecloth: They had a forced res in the game, so everything looked fuzzy.
Also another thing I didnt like was clicking through several screens just to play a game.
Originally posted by kitsunegirl Also another thing I didnt like was clicking through several screens just to play a game.
You do that in every MMO! Many times now click past the splash screen, then to the log in screen you gotta type in your name and password, then click ok, then select your chars and click ok.
So FFXI has a few extra screen to warn players of seizures to protect themselves since FFXI does have a ton of flashy spells, or to let players know not to play long bursts and ruin their lives or about updates to the POL system and game!
You know to this day FFXI has the best log-in system ever cause not one person has ever hacked it and made a private server. There are none, and I applaud Square for their security and not allowing ppl to hack their game and make wacky servers and play as chars they're not supposed to ala WoW and many others!
You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter and don't have to do anything for yourself, why even bother to play a game if all you really want is for everything to be very quick and done for you basically, at least thats how you're coming off to me as that type of player!
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
FFXI is a success in the way that no one's been able to hack it...
But as game, is too far from being perfect, when it was just released it was the best by difference... but now too much time happened and FFXI is just an slow mmorpg from the 2001 with ps2 graphics.
Partying system is fine... that's not the problem, the problem is you need way too much time to do anything, you can't have a normal life and success in FFXI.
You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter and don't have to do anything for yourself, why even bother to play a game if all you really want is for everything to be very quick and done for you basically, at least thats how you're coming off to me as that type of player!
You should probly not try to analyze someone you dont know from just one post.
There are login screens, I have no problem with that, its necessary. Whats not necessary is clicking through several screen and loaders. You only need a login screen and a character selection screen... splash screens arent necessary, but they arent a nuisance either. Notices and news could be posted in loader windows like Lineage II does, or LotRO... Instead they have one window for the loader, for news, for char selection, for "dont sue us, we warned you" disclaimers, and so on. All of which could be handled much more efficiently.
If all those windows and loaders is how they prevented hackers from making EMUs, then I appluad them for doing something other games havent been able to. That doesnt make it a nuisance to click through.
Well, not the best, but the gameplay is the deepest of them all, and also has the best ambientation... which japanese guys do it very well. If SE uses the good things of FFXI and fixes the bads @ next MMORPG then it will be the best with no doubt.
FFXI is one of the few games I still consider to be an MMO. Most of the others out there are mainly solo games with a chat channel attached, until you get to the max level and go raiding or spend all your time in PvP. I've got games like Unreal Tournament for that, and it doesn't require me to grind to 60 first. These other games are all about constantly making everything easier to cater to the casual crowd. What they don't realize is that when you lower the risk, the reward isn't as sweet. I feel a lot more attached to my FFXI character, because I actually had to work for all the jobs, gear, and levels I've attained.
If they were to do nothing but update the graphics and release a fresh new server, I'd be sunk in deep for several more years easily . They need a FFXI-2 badly. It's amazing to see how many people are still playing this game so far out from it's original release.
ff11 is one of all my all time favorite mmo, and one and probably the las true mmo to ever be released...from now on it will be all solo mmo with a chat section like the i
The downfall to the game is that it doesnt cater to the casual gamer crowd and you do have to wait long periods of time to party. Sometimes I just want to load in, kill shit for an hour and log. The fact that you can't solo is also a large problem for most. It limits the audience to mostly hardcore gamers and/or those that have alot of time.
(P.S. I have 74 rdm, i love this game and agree that its one of the best MMOs (if you have the time), if they did make a second game and you could solo in a small sense and still have to party it would be good. Like when i wanna kill shit for an hour, i do campaign battles. But lower levels don't have that. Would be a nice lower level addition if they did that. ^^ just sayin not everyone has the time and desire to work in a game. AKA why people prefer wow.)
Originally posted by maltos The downfall to the game is that it doesnt cater to the casual gamer crowd and you do have to wait long periods of time to party. Sometimes I just want to load in, kill shit for an hour and log. The fact that you can't solo is also a large problem for most. It limits the audience to mostly hardcore gamers and/or those that have alot of time. (P.S. I have 74 rdm, i love this game and agree that its one of the best MMOs (if you have the time), if they did make a second game and you could solo in a small sense and still have to party it would be good. Like when i wanna kill shit for an hour, i do campaign battles. But lower levels don't have that. Would be a nice lower level addition if they did that. ^^ just sayin not everyone has the time and desire to work in a game. AKA why people prefer wow.)
Yes this is why I had to quit when I did many years ago. The grouping is great but not when you don't have the time for it. As a player for many years no casual gamer could ever play this. Sometimes if you're not lucky you wait 3-4hrs+ just for a group your around your level. There was always people but the rotation of groups normally resulted to someone's friend taking the place then a LFG, so it never got out that crowd. The end game is even more so and one of the reason I quit, just running SKY, killing HNMs, and getting end game gear with all these crazy locations and monsters was fun the first time but it gets boring when you repeat it day after day after day.
FFXI will always be one of my favorite, but I had time for it back then. It's defiantly not the perfect MMO.
The crafting is by far the worse in any game, it doesn't tell you what you need you need to mix and mash or look at a guide online to see what you can make or try to lurk out the npcs for it which only told you a few. The grind is long and expensive as hell.
The variation and which direction you have to point to get exceptional results was unique and always will be.
All in all if you have 8hrs a day and love to group FFXI will be perfect for YOU. It does bring revolutionary game play unlike any other MMO out there, even still today. But don't think for a second it is the perfect mmo.
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Originally posted by kitsunegirl Originally posted by Katashi-kun You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter and don't have to do anything for yourself, why even bother to play a game if all you really want is for everything to be very quick and done for you basically, at least thats how you're coming off to me as that type of player!
You should probly not try to analyze someone you dont know from just one post.
There are login screens, I have no problem with that, its necessary. Whats not necessary is clicking through several screen and loaders. You only need a login screen and a character selection screen... splash screens arent necessary, but they arent a nuisance either. Notices and news could be posted in loader windows like Lineage II does, or LotRO... Instead they have one window for the loader, for news, for char selection, for "dont sue us, we warned you" disclaimers, and so on. All of which could be handled much more efficiently. If all those windows and loaders is how they prevented hackers from making EMUs, then I appluad them for doing something other games havent been able to. That doesnt make it a nuisance to click through.
The reason for the screens is playonline they thought they would expand their network of MMOs to be more than just FFXI never happened, so this is why when you login it's organized like a website would be.
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The reason for the screens is playonline they thought they would expand their network of MMOs to be more than just FFXI never happened, so this is why when you login it's organized like a website would be.
Only outside of Japan! POL is used for several other MMOs and many other types of Square games and advertisements and ordering stuff in Japan. Its huge over there, just most the stuff its known for will never get a port over here so we got stuck with just FFXI and all the other menus. Never bothered me though...
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
It seems like half the people bashing FFXI on this thread hasn't really played it. For those who said they don't tell you the recipes for crafting, there is an NPC in each crafting guild specifically for telling you recipes to advance in level. It is by far the best MMORPG imo, due to the fact it encourages grouping with others. Not like other MMO's. I tried WoW, Guild Wars, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, and Everquest 2, but none of them made me want to stop playing FFXI. Five years old and still the 5th most played MMORPG. That has to show it's worth as a good MMO.
I played FFXI for 18 months, left for about 3 years and I am now back playing again (3 months now).
There is just so much about the game to love and I'm really enjoying an MMO again when I was beginning to wonder if I would. Also it wasn't my first MMO, so it's not because of that.
They have added a lot more you can do solo, but the game is still at it's heart a game for grouping and I just feel that that helps to make the community stronger. It doesn't take long before you're bumping back into players you've already grouped with and people get to know you.
Even though I'm still a long way from where I was when I left I'm not feeling stressed or rushing. Most games I get caught in this mad rush to max level but in FFXI I'm just happy to enjoy the world.
Coming back to this game I'd forgotten how common it is that other players give you helpful buffs and stuff just 'cos they can. This happens in all games but in FFXI it seems to happen all the time. Obviously there are idiots playing this game (I guess) but I see so many more helpful people. I think it's remained a genuinely friendly and altruistic MMO.
Although I may try other games I'm not leaving again soon.
Final Fantasy XII still remains unconvincing due to the fact that it's still pay to play and that i tell you sucks.
EMM...XII is not an mmo...
and p2p ftw....
you have enough f2p....no need to moan...
I'm not moaning it''s just when they made a good looking game like this Square made it impossible for me to play by making it a pay to play, And let me tell you this i really do admire this game so much that id want to play it but i can't cuz it costs to much for me to handle.
Final Fantasy XII still remains unconvincing due to the fact that it's still pay to play and that i tell you sucks.
EMM...XII is not an mmo...
and p2p ftw....
you have enough f2p....no need to moan...
I'm not moaning it''s just when they made a good looking game like this Square made it impossible for me to play by making it a pay to play, And let me tell you this i really do admire this game so much that id want to play it but i can't cuz it costs to much for me to handle.
$12/m is not that mush try saving it up it will be worth it
I'm not moaning it''s just when they made a good looking game like this Square made it impossible for me to play by making it a pay to play, And let me tell you this i really do admire this game so much that id want to play it but i can't cuz it costs to much for me to handle.
Ah yes, the old "I cant afford to pay to play, due to personal choice" arguement.
No, SE has not made it impossible for you to play, far from it actually, more so you have chosen to not do whats needed in order to be able to pay to play - personal decisions are no fault of the game developer.
FFXI is the cheapest, high quality P2P mmorpg on the market, providing an exceptionally unique game world that remains true to the series, and far above and beyond any other mmorpg in terms of endgame content, overall playability, grouping opportunities, variety of content, eighteen different jobs with a plethora of combinations to try, helping to build social skills, etc..
At 12.95 a month you cannot go wrong, don't have a credit card? buy a pre-paid one from any local convenience store or retail department store. Don't have the 25 bucks for a card? well then I suggest you either seek employment, or if you are too young make an effort to go around your neighborhood and see if you can mow some lawns for 10 bucks a lawn, anything is better than making zero effort and claiming its SE's fault for trying to profit off there product.
Pay to Play is the future of gaming as we know it, the sooner that gets accepted, the better.
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I played FFXI for 18 months, left for about 3 years and I am now back playing again (3 months now). There is just so much about the game to love and I'm really enjoying an MMO again when I was beginning to wonder if I would. Also it wasn't my first MMO, so it's not because of that. They have added a lot more you can do solo, but the game is still at it's heart a game for grouping and I just feel that that helps to make the community stronger. It doesn't take long before you're bumping back into players you've already grouped with and people get to know you. Even though I'm still a long way from where I was when I left I'm not feeling stressed or rushing. Most games I get caught in this mad rush to max level but in FFXI I'm just happy to enjoy the world.
Coming back to this game I'd forgotten how common it is that other players give you helpful buffs and stuff just 'cos they can. This happens in all games but in FFXI it seems to happen all the time. Obviously there are idiots playing this game (I guess) but I see so many more helpful people. I think it's remained a genuinely friendly and altruistic MMO. Although I may try other games I'm not leaving again soon.
I couldn't agree more, well said.
The only thing in that statement that differs from my own experiences over the last few years, is the bit about there being "idiots" in the game, I agree that there must be some around, but try as I might I have not been able to find one in over two years on Leviathan.
Not even so much as a smart assed comment, rude remark, nothing.
The community is unmatched in FFXI, you simply cannot find a better game to play if you are looking for an adult environment shared by people with interests in the Final Fantasy series similar to ones own. People are constantly going out of there way to setup parties or what have you, all for the benefit of someone who might not have a character as developed as someone elses.
JP Players have been great to me as well, no complaints there, and I haven't seen an elitist attitude since I started playing in 06. Its been a really great experience, and is a game I will continue to play for years to come, because it remains exceptionally unique in a sea filled with mmorpg clones and poor attempts at releasing a new, unique game.
It truly is a breath of fresh air as far as mmorpgs are concerned.
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Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
Macros : FFXI has the best macro making system ever, not needed, it just makes you that much faster.
Airship times: Sorry I didn't realize that you wanted to zone instantly from one side of the world to the other, If you look up in some zones you actually SEE THE AIRSHIP FLY OVERHEAD, tell me another game that has that amount of realisim?
Player housing Is amazingly fun now, you can invite all your friends into your Mog house!
Tarutaru ARE NOT the only good mages, infact they make kinda poor black mages end game because they have such low HP and they die in one hit to most stuff. The great thing about this game is ANY RACE CAN BE ANY CLASS EFFECTIVELY.
The UI is easy to learn and pretty easy to understand you just hit the - Key and the side menu comes up, very similar to City of Heroes. Also you move just like most games ASDW, which is really easy.
FFXI is awesome on PS2 Xbox360 AND PC
I've played it on all 3 and each is unique but I prefer PC
Crafting in FFXI is the most unique out of any MMO out there, the entire game revolves around the crystal war and hence crafting. It may be complicated and at times confusing but there are many MANY fan sites out there now that can help guide you.
Fishing got Nerfed.... NO NO NO!!! Sorry it used to be that you'd wait for a chyme to sound and then you'd hit one button..... That was REAL difficult, now instead you have to actually tire out the fish and do some work to reel it in, IMAGINE THAT, its realistic.
Quests are hard to find? Um... Unlike WoW quests are not the point of this game, you do quests to get items not to get experiance, and if you have difficulty finding a quest perhaps you should use one of the many many many wiki/fansites that are out there to help guide you in the right direction, Sorry there is no GIANT EXCLAIMATION POINT over everyone's head.
Zoning does exsist in this world yes, but frankly every MMO has Zoning, even WoW.
Cut scenes ADD to the playability of a game in my opinion, why wouldn't you want STORYLINE in an RPG?
Tribbles? Thats a small fuzzy thing from Star Trek that is like a foot in diameter, a Tarutaru is nothing like a tribble...
YOU MAY NOW SELECT WHICH WORLD YOU START ON. World passes are a thing of the past.
The Economy WAS screwed up, now its possible to kill monsters for their items and sell them to NPC's to earn enough money to buy real items. I myself just farmed up a 250k item in a day killing Bats and selling their Blood to an NPC.
Cheesecloth? Um ... somethings wrong with your eyes or your monitor, do you clean it with your hankee you sneeze in?
All your complaints are outdated or jaded or straight out lies.
That was offensive and just unnecessary.
I lied about nothing, nor was it jaded. Outdated, yes... since the last time I played was soon after that platinum edition was released. It was also an opinion post. The OP gave his opinion as to why he thought it was the best, I countered with my opinion - even if it is outdated.
Cheesecloth: They had a forced res in the game, so everything looked fuzzy.
Also another thing I didnt like was clicking through several screens just to play a game.
You do that in every MMO! Many times now click past the splash screen, then to the log in screen you gotta type in your name and password, then click ok, then select your chars and click ok.
So FFXI has a few extra screen to warn players of seizures to protect themselves since FFXI does have a ton of flashy spells, or to let players know not to play long bursts and ruin their lives or about updates to the POL system and game!
You know to this day FFXI has the best log-in system ever cause not one person has ever hacked it and made a private server. There are none, and I applaud Square for their security and not allowing ppl to hack their game and make wacky servers and play as chars they're not supposed to ala WoW and many others!
You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter and don't have to do anything for yourself, why even bother to play a game if all you really want is for everything to be very quick and done for you basically, at least thats how you're coming off to me as that type of player!
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
yes ff11 have no private server at all..people have tried and failed
FFXI is a success in the way that no one's been able to hack it...
But as game, is too far from being perfect, when it was just released it was the best by difference... but now too much time happened and FFXI is just an slow mmorpg from the 2001 with ps2 graphics.
Partying system is fine... that's not the problem, the problem is you need way too much time to do anything, you can't have a normal life and success in FFXI.
You should probly not try to analyze someone you dont know from just one post.
There are login screens, I have no problem with that, its necessary. Whats not necessary is clicking through several screen and loaders. You only need a login screen and a character selection screen... splash screens arent necessary, but they arent a nuisance either. Notices and news could be posted in loader windows like Lineage II does, or LotRO... Instead they have one window for the loader, for news, for char selection, for "dont sue us, we warned you" disclaimers, and so on. All of which could be handled much more efficiently.
If all those windows and loaders is how they prevented hackers from making EMUs, then I appluad them for doing something other games havent been able to. That doesnt make it a nuisance to click through.
I will agree , its the best mmo ive ever played nothing can compare.
This is one of my best aspects! it needs to be done more in MMO's
4: a large variety of classes. and if your bored with one class you can move on to another. with the same character. no need to re roll.
Well, not the best, but the gameplay is the deepest of them all, and also has the best ambientation... which japanese guys do it very well. If SE uses the good things of FFXI and fixes the bads @ next MMORPG then it will be the best with no doubt.
FFXI is one of the few games I still consider to be an MMO. Most of the others out there are mainly solo games with a chat channel attached, until you get to the max level and go raiding or spend all your time in PvP. I've got games like Unreal Tournament for that, and it doesn't require me to grind to 60 first. These other games are all about constantly making everything easier to cater to the casual crowd. What they don't realize is that when you lower the risk, the reward isn't as sweet. I feel a lot more attached to my FFXI character, because I actually had to work for all the jobs, gear, and levels I've attained.
If they were to do nothing but update the graphics and release a fresh new server, I'd be sunk in deep for several more years easily . They need a FFXI-2 badly. It's amazing to see how many people are still playing this game so far out from it's original release.
ff11 is one of all my all time favorite mmo, and one and probably the las true mmo to ever be released...from now on it will be all solo mmo with a chat section like the i
user above me said
The downfall to the game is that it doesnt cater to the casual gamer crowd and you do have to wait long periods of time to party. Sometimes I just want to load in, kill shit for an hour and log. The fact that you can't solo is also a large problem for most. It limits the audience to mostly hardcore gamers and/or those that have alot of time.
(P.S. I have 74 rdm, i love this game and agree that its one of the best MMOs (if you have the time), if they did make a second game and you could solo in a small sense and still have to party it would be good. Like when i wanna kill shit for an hour, i do campaign battles. But lower levels don't have that. Would be a nice lower level addition if they did that. ^^ just sayin not everyone has the time and desire to work in a game. AKA why people prefer wow.)
-Maltos-
Yes this is why I had to quit when I did many years ago. The grouping is great but not when you don't have the time for it. As a player for many years no casual gamer could ever play this. Sometimes if you're not lucky you wait 3-4hrs+ just for a group your around your level. There was always people but the rotation of groups normally resulted to someone's friend taking the place then a LFG, so it never got out that crowd. The end game is even more so and one of the reason I quit, just running SKY, killing HNMs, and getting end game gear with all these crazy locations and monsters was fun the first time but it gets boring when you repeat it day after day after day.
FFXI will always be one of my favorite, but I had time for it back then. It's defiantly not the perfect MMO.
The crafting is by far the worse in any game, it doesn't tell you what you need you need to mix and mash or look at a guide online to see what you can make or try to lurk out the npcs for it which only told you a few. The grind is long and expensive as hell.
The variation and which direction you have to point to get exceptional results was unique and always will be.
All in all if you have 8hrs a day and love to group FFXI will be perfect for YOU. It does bring revolutionary game play unlike any other MMO out there, even still today. But don't think for a second it is the perfect mmo.
You should probly not try to analyze someone you dont know from just one post.
There are login screens, I have no problem with that, its necessary. Whats not necessary is clicking through several screen and loaders. You only need a login screen and a character selection screen... splash screens arent necessary, but they arent a nuisance either. Notices and news could be posted in loader windows like Lineage II does, or LotRO... Instead they have one window for the loader, for news, for char selection, for "dont sue us, we warned you" disclaimers, and so on. All of which could be handled much more efficiently.
If all those windows and loaders is how they prevented hackers from making EMUs, then I appluad them for doing something other games havent been able to. That doesnt make it a nuisance to click through.
The reason for the screens is playonline they thought they would expand their network of MMOs to be more than just FFXI never happened, so this is why when you login it's organized like a website would be.
dose the log in screen really matter. how does it affect game play
Only outside of Japan! POL is used for several other MMOs and many other types of Square games and advertisements and ordering stuff in Japan. Its huge over there, just most the stuff its known for will never get a port over here so we got stuck with just FFXI and all the other menus. Never bothered me though...
Kemih ~ 13 Red Mage | Currently playing FFXI & LOTRO, awaiting Warhammer Online & Aion...
It seems like half the people bashing FFXI on this thread hasn't really played it. For those who said they don't tell you the recipes for crafting, there is an NPC in each crafting guild specifically for telling you recipes to advance in level. It is by far the best MMORPG imo, due to the fact it encourages grouping with others. Not like other MMO's. I tried WoW, Guild Wars, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, and Everquest 2, but none of them made me want to stop playing FFXI. Five years old and still the 5th most played MMORPG. That has to show it's worth as a good MMO.
I played FFXI for 18 months, left for about 3 years and I am now back playing again (3 months now).
There is just so much about the game to love and I'm really enjoying an MMO again when I was beginning to wonder if I would. Also it wasn't my first MMO, so it's not because of that.
They have added a lot more you can do solo, but the game is still at it's heart a game for grouping and I just feel that that helps to make the community stronger. It doesn't take long before you're bumping back into players you've already grouped with and people get to know you.
Even though I'm still a long way from where I was when I left I'm not feeling stressed or rushing. Most games I get caught in this mad rush to max level but in FFXI I'm just happy to enjoy the world.
Coming back to this game I'd forgotten how common it is that other players give you helpful buffs and stuff just 'cos they can. This happens in all games but in FFXI it seems to happen all the time. Obviously there are idiots playing this game (I guess) but I see so many more helpful people. I think it's remained a genuinely friendly and altruistic MMO.
Although I may try other games I'm not leaving again soon.
Final Fantasy XII still remains unconvincing due to the fact that it's still pay to play and that i tell you sucks.
and p2p ftw....
you have enough f2p....no need to moan...
and p2p ftw....
you have enough f2p....no need to moan...
I'm not moaning it''s just when they made a good looking game like this Square made it impossible for me to play by making it a pay to play, And let me tell you this i really do admire this game so much that id want to play it but i can't cuz it costs to much for me to handle.
and p2p ftw....
you have enough f2p....no need to moan...
I'm not moaning it''s just when they made a good looking game like this Square made it impossible for me to play by making it a pay to play, And let me tell you this i really do admire this game so much that id want to play it but i can't cuz it costs to much for me to handle.
$12/m is not that mush
try saving it up 
it will be worth it 
Ah yes, the old "I cant afford to pay to play, due to personal choice" arguement.
No, SE has not made it impossible for you to play, far from it actually, more so you have chosen to not do whats needed in order to be able to pay to play - personal decisions are no fault of the game developer.
FFXI is the cheapest, high quality P2P mmorpg on the market, providing an exceptionally unique game world that remains true to the series, and far above and beyond any other mmorpg in terms of endgame content, overall playability, grouping opportunities, variety of content, eighteen different jobs with a plethora of combinations to try, helping to build social skills, etc..
At 12.95 a month you cannot go wrong, don't have a credit card? buy a pre-paid one from any local convenience store or retail department store. Don't have the 25 bucks for a card? well then I suggest you either seek employment, or if you are too young make an effort to go around your neighborhood and see if you can mow some lawns for 10 bucks a lawn, anything is better than making zero effort and claiming its SE's fault for trying to profit off there product.
Pay to Play is the future of gaming as we know it, the sooner that gets accepted, the better.
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I couldn't agree more, well said.
The only thing in that statement that differs from my own experiences over the last few years, is the bit about there being "idiots" in the game, I agree that there must be some around, but try as I might I have not been able to find one in over two years on Leviathan.
Not even so much as a smart assed comment, rude remark, nothing.
The community is unmatched in FFXI, you simply cannot find a better game to play if you are looking for an adult environment shared by people with interests in the Final Fantasy series similar to ones own. People are constantly going out of there way to setup parties or what have you, all for the benefit of someone who might not have a character as developed as someone elses.
JP Players have been great to me as well, no complaints there, and I haven't seen an elitist attitude since I started playing in 06. Its been a really great experience, and is a game I will continue to play for years to come, because it remains exceptionally unique in a sea filled with mmorpg clones and poor attempts at releasing a new, unique game.
It truly is a breath of fresh air as far as mmorpgs are concerned.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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