I seriously doubt that this game will see the light before the end of this year. And don't say that Tatos said it will be. He's been saying that for years. I do not trust his words. Solid proof will be much better and i'll eat my own words if it launches this year.
But until then..
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"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I will be elected President of the United States before Darkfall releases in 2008.
correction...before it releases...EVER
With their "official 2008" comment on their dev journals, they bought themselves seven to 18 months of patience form their community. I don't think people will stick around after that. They've heard it too much before.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
i think shan has that about right. but they sound to confendent. only reason it wotn release if they find more problems when they start playtesting than they expected but it will at least start playtesting before hand. release probly 90% chance
Release this year is not likely, IMO. I have a feeling that we might see the "playtest", or whatever they want to call it, in 2008. That will be a reality check for Aventurine. My bet is that serious problems will be uncovered, and release delayed into 2009+.
The wild card = money. No company has unlimited funds, and by now, they have spent a ton. If they are low on cash, they may release what they have, with promises for quick fixes post launch.
If they do have a successful launch in 2008 and meet expectations, then these guys are freaking awesome. We should get them off games, and working on important "save the world" projects.
Release this year is not likely, IMO. I have a feeling that we might see the "playtest", or whatever they want to call it, in 2008. That will be a reality check for Aventurine. My bet is that serious problems will be uncovered, and release delayed into 2009+. The wild card = money. No company has unlimited funds, and by now, they have spent a ton. If they are low on cash, they may release what they have, with promises for quick fixes post launch. If they do have a successful launch in 2008 and meet expectations, then these guys are freaking awesome. We should get them off games, and working on important "save the world" projects.
This unfortunately is a definite possibility as we have seen so often repeated by other MMO developers in the past.
They spin a yarn of expectations and promises for as long a possible without revealing the reality of their games true stage of development or their financial situation until they are forced to do so at the last minute when the proverbial hit’s the fan.
Which causes the majority of the community to go into melt down and desert them after they are forced to confront their idealized fantasy of what the potential game will be and the cold harsh reality of what it actually is.
Like you say if they do have a successful launch this year then everyone will be happy, but if they fail to meet the high expectations they have generated over the years they are in for the mother of all community backlashes.
When potentially thousands of previously dedicated die hard fans suddenly realize how misguided they have been and how disingenuous the developers have been for so long turn there attention inwardly away from the detractors and toward the developers themselves.
Either way certainly appears that this year will hopefully be the most entertaining in the history of Darkfall’s development.
It would be to good if it was released in 2008. That would mean they would begin right now to promote, show more videos and have a dates for certain features.
But then again, Aventurine have not followed any rules....so one day in 2008 i might have my first login in Darkfall : )
What makes this thread "Official"? I'm guessing, nothing.
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Um... no, I don't think they will release in 2008. That's a fantasy. However, I think it's possible they may actually have a beta this year. I will give them the benefit of the doubt, you see.
If they don't at least have a beta this year - and we'll all know about it, because there are ALWAYS beta leaks- they will lose what little credibility they have, IMO.
I will be elected President of the United States before Darkfall releases in 2008.
correction...before it releases...EVER
With their "official 2008" comment on their dev journals, they bought themselves seven to 18 months of patience form their community. I don't think people will stick around after that. They've heard it too much before.
why isnt release possible? they bene ind ev long enough
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internal testing is NEVER enough to catch all the gotchas (bugs, possible pl exploits, game breaking material) that an open beta of hundreds of players can catch.
Since they have said they aren't really having a long open beta (if one at all) those gotchas they find will have to be found internally. Meaning they could potentially have to delay if they find something. Or they can release and say they will fix bugs and patch stuff later.
They very well could release this year, but I won't be holding my breath. The game is released when it is released. I no longer believe anything any MMO developer says about release dates.
I'm not at all expecting them to stick to a 2008 date will all of the times MORE EXPERIENCED developers have had to push their MMO launches back. If they release in 2008 great, but I am sure as hell expecting them to miss that date. (Also notice there is no real date. If they release on Dec 31st, 2008, that still counts as 2008 )
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I seriously doubt that this game will see the light before the end of this year. And don't say that Tatos said it will be. He's been saying that for years. I do not trust his words. Solid proof will be much better and i'll eat my own words if it launches this year.
But until then..
The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon
Fixed your poll
Yes it wil!
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To me, it all depends on what 2008 is.
LOL, will make for an interesting seven months, no doubt.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
2008? Kidding, right?
I will be elected President of the United States before Darkfall releases in 2008.
correction...before it releases...EVER
correction...before it releases...EVER
With their "official 2008" comment on their dev journals, they bought themselves seven to 18 months of patience form their community. I don't think people will stick around after that. They've heard it too much before.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
i think shan has that about right. but they sound to confendent. only reason it wotn release if they find more problems when they start playtesting than they expected but it will at least start playtesting before hand. release probly 90% chance
Release this year is not likely, IMO. I have a feeling that we might see the "playtest", or whatever they want to call it, in 2008. That will be a reality check for Aventurine. My bet is that serious problems will be uncovered, and release delayed into 2009+.
The wild card = money. No company has unlimited funds, and by now, they have spent a ton. If they are low on cash, they may release what they have, with promises for quick fixes post launch.
If they do have a successful launch in 2008 and meet expectations, then these guys are freaking awesome. We should get them off games, and working on important "save the world" projects.
Satan is still toasty warm with no signs of a chill.
So, no. Darkfall will not release in 2008.
What makes this thread "Official"?
I'm guessing, nothing.
It will launch in 2008, if you go after the islamic calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar ,current year is 1429 )
I hope that it will launch as soon as possible, but I'm afraid this isn't before fall 2009!
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This unfortunately is a definite possibility as we have seen so often repeated by other MMO developers in the past.
They spin a yarn of expectations and promises for as long a possible without revealing the reality of their games true stage of development or their financial situation until they are forced to do so at the last minute when the proverbial hit’s the fan.
Which causes the majority of the community to go into melt down and desert them after they are forced to confront their idealized fantasy of what the potential game will be and the cold harsh reality of what it actually is.
Like you say if they do have a successful launch this year then everyone will be happy, but if they fail to meet the high expectations they have generated over the years they are in for the mother of all community backlashes.
When potentially thousands of previously dedicated die hard fans suddenly realize how misguided they have been and how disingenuous the developers have been for so long turn there attention inwardly away from the detractors and toward the developers themselves.
Either way certainly appears that this year will hopefully be the most entertaining in the history of Darkfall’s development.
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I voted NO!
It would be to good if it was released in 2008. That would mean they would begin right now to promote, show more videos and have a dates for certain features.
But then again, Aventurine have not followed any rules....so one day in 2008 i might have my first login in Darkfall : )
And that is for what i hope of.
OP sassiness
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Um... no, I don't think they will release in 2008. That's a fantasy. However, I think it's possible they may actually have a beta this year. I will give them the benefit of the doubt, you see.
If they don't at least have a beta this year - and we'll all know about it, because there are ALWAYS beta leaks- they will lose what little credibility they have, IMO.
why isnt release possible? they bene ind ev long enough
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correction...before it releases...EVER
With their "official 2008" comment on their dev journals, they bought themselves seven to 18 months of patience form their community. I don't think people will stick around after that. They've heard it too much before.
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Originally posted by killerxion
why isnt release possible? they bene ind ev long enough
----------------------------------------------
internal testing is NEVER enough to catch all the gotchas (bugs, possible pl exploits, game breaking material) that an open beta of hundreds of players can catch.
Since they have said they aren't really having a long open beta (if one at all) those gotchas they find will have to be found internally. Meaning they could potentially have to delay if they find something. Or they can release and say they will fix bugs and patch stuff later.
They very well could release this year, but I won't be holding my breath. The game is released when it is released. I no longer believe anything any MMO developer says about release dates.
I'm not at all expecting them to stick to a 2008 date will all of the times MORE EXPERIENCED developers have had to push their MMO launches back. If they release in 2008 great, but I am sure as hell expecting them to miss that date. (Also notice there is no real date. If they release on Dec 31st, 2008, that still counts as 2008 )