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Tasos, when does Aventurine Fiscal 2008 start for DFO?

ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

The question says it all.

Their fiscal year could start 1 December 2008, so if they release November 30 2009, they would still have released in 2008 according to their financials.

It is a fair question I'd like an answer to.

 

Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

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  • ddevddev Member Posts: 165
    You mean fiscal year of 2008? Who cares when the fiscal year begins? What are we? Tax officers? :p
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,086

    I think I'll take them at face value and assume they meant sometime in calendar year 2008.

     

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  • KairarrKairarr Member Posts: 114

    As retarded as it sounds, it is probably their next excuse for not releasing the game in 2008.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    An important question.

    Some  native tribes don't have a concept of year.  I believe in China year starts sometime at  february  but i am not sure about . For some folks in amazonas  the year begins mai ?  i am not sure about. 

    Don't think greeks knows calendaring so Tasos  as clan chief could just decide to let 2008 begin december and end in 10 years ?

    I am glad i could contribute to find answers to such an important  question...

     

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  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630

    Originally posted by Shannia


    The question says it all.
    Their fiscal year could start 1 December 2008, so if they release November 30 2009, they would still have released in 2008 according to their financials.
    It is a fair question I'd like an answer to.
     
    It's the type of question a smart arse or someone trying to keep their post count up posts, this is just a good old troll.

    I just don't understand why you waste your time here, in fact neither do I there are better moderated and constructive forums elsewhere.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,086

    Originally posted by Isane


     


     
    I just don't understand why you waste your time here, in fact neither do I there are better moderated and constructive forums elsewhere.

    You mean, forums where people who post off topic like you just did find their posts deleted? 

    Hey, no one forces us to read these threads, do it for the entertainment value.

     

     

     

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  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668

    Originally posted by Isane


     
    Originally posted by Shannia


    The question says it all.
    Their fiscal year could start 1 December 2008, so if they release November 30 2009, they would still have released in 2008 according to their financials.
    It is a fair question I'd like an answer to.
     
    It's the type of question a smart arse or someone trying to keep their post count up posts, this is just a good old troll.

     

    I just don't understand why you waste your time here, in fact neither do I there are better moderated and constructive forums elsewhere.

      I agree...considering I saw you post somewhere you were in college doing a thesis or something here for a class?

    I'm affraid if your professors really saw the level of intellectualism displayed here, they'd solemnly shake their heads in embarassment. 

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

     

    Originally posted by ddev

    You mean fiscal year of 2008? Who cares when the fiscal year begins? What are we? Tax officers? :p

     

    Ok Fanbois, let Corporate Accounting 101 begin.  All corporations run a 12 month fiscal calendar.  This twelve month calendar corresponds to the month the said company first reports quarterly financials.  For example, WAR moved beta to Q2 of this year.  To you and I, in the calendar year, that would be April thru June.  This is not the case with corporations around the globe.  To WAR, Q2 2008 so I'm not exactly sure what three months make up EA/Mythics Q2.  That could be July 1 thru September 30 or as late as September 1 thru November 30.  Again, each company picks their own calendar year for reporting financials.  Like I said, Aventurine has an 18 month window to launch unless we can specifically find Aventurine's financial calendar.  All I'm saying is don't hold your breath to within the next seven months.  We don't know Aventurine's calendar until they announce it.

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • killerxionkillerxion Member Posts: 114

    ok troll taso meant calender year 2008 not there billing or what ever geese always trying to defunk something for no reason. its pretty sad

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

     

    Originally posted by killerxion


    ok troll taso meant calender year 2008 not there billing or what ever geese always trying to defunk something for no reason. its pretty sad

     

    Ok, now you are qualified to speak for Tasos on what he says or meant to say.  Since you speak for Tasos now, anything else you want to enlighten us on or are you going to shut up and let Tasos speak for himself?

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • killerxionkillerxion Member Posts: 114

    yea oyu speak for taso to do you want to enlighten us on your crap some more?

    you know for a fact he was tlaking 2008 because no one goes by there billing year or whatever its called when they announce a release date

  • KienKien Member Posts: 520

    This is an amusing thread.

     

    Will be funnier if the OP remembers to necro it November 1 2009.

  • KairarrKairarr Member Posts: 114

    If he dont, i will necro this post.

  • Entreri28Entreri28 Member Posts: 589
    Originally posted by Shannia


    The question says it all.
    Their fiscal year could start 1 December 2008, so if they release November 30 2009, they would still have released in 2008 according to their financials.
    It is a fair question I'd like an answer to.
     



    This is a very fair question.  I think we do need an answer to this.  I know EA starts its' fiscal year later and thus games will not always be released in the calendar year they say.

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  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Isane


     


     
    I just don't understand why you waste your time here, in fact neither do I there are better moderated and constructive forums elsewhere.

     

    You mean, forums where people who post off topic like you just did find their posts deleted? 

    Hey, no one forces us to read these threads, do it for the entertainment value.

     

     

     

    No posts deleted and it's a valid post due to this thread being nothing to do with DF just a troll, that doesn't warrant any semblance of sensibility. Also cutting and pasting so you can take a reply out of context is pretty lame but i guess you know that.

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  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

    Originally posted by Isane


    No posts deleted and it's a valid post due to this thread being nothing to do with DF just a troll, that doesn't warrant any semblance of sensibility. Also cutting and pasting so you can take a reply out of context is pretty lame but i guess you know that.

    Actually, I think the OP's question is very relevant to DF's supposed release date.  Just because you don't like the question doesn't make it a troll post.  Sorry!

     

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    Oh come on, they have lied to the general public so many times with absurd statements about beta announcements that never materialized.  There is absolutely no way this game will release in 2008, probably not in 2009 either.  

    Unless the developers serious cut the feature list, this game will always remain vaporware.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    But when begins year in amazonas ? Aswell some tribes in polynesia dunno about year at all. It IS important to know .

    We also may lost some years in medievel are we sure its 2008 ?

    answer me this.

     

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  • letum6030letum6030 Member Posts: 206

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    But when begins year in amazonas ? Aswell some tribes in polynesia dunno about year at all. It IS important to know .
    We also may lost some years in medievel are we sure its 2008 ?
    answer me this.
     
    The above is a stupid post.  Assuming Aventurine is a legal entity that does in fact do business, they MUST have a fiscal year.  It's been a while since intro to accounting, but if I remember correctly, most of the natural year (calendar year) must be part of the fiscal year.  i.e. Fiscal year running from October 2007 to September 2008 is acceptable, so is March 2008 to February 2009.

    Every company has to have a fiscal year for accounting purposes.  If they don't have a fiscal year, they are not a company but a front.  However, Aventurine, as far as I know, is not a publicly traded company so they will not be forced to let anyone know what their fiscal year is.  If this is the case, all of their financial information is proprietary.  Anyway, lunch break over.

  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    An important question.
    Some  native tribes don't have a concept of year.  I believe in China year starts sometime at  february  but i am not sure about . For some folks in amazonas  the year begins mai ?  i am not sure about. 
    Don't think greeks knows calendaring so Tasos  as clan chief could just decide to let 2008 begin december and end in 10 years ?
    I am glad i could contribute to find answers to such an important  question...
     

    Talk about someone who has changed identity a few times to sit and troll here and defend the Darkfall lie... you can ONLY be connected to that "project"

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