-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
LMAO!!!! There were like 12 people in attendance!!!
minus the developer "Armada"
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
That was funny but sad at the same time, I remember seeing SWG fanfests (not post NGE summits) where they had halls in Las Vegas packed and people were in long queues just to ask a DEV a question. Even the summit just after the NGE had plenty of people, mostly VETs hoping for a rollback.
That hall had something like a player to DEV ratio of 4 to 1 at most, maybe even 3 to 1, that's just sad and I don't see what the point is in holding these summits anymore? When like only 20 people turn up, you've got to know you're in trouble. The last EVE fanfest was in Iceland and half of their subs are mining bots, still they probably had more people using the Gents at anyone time than SWG had at their entire summit.
If ever there was a time for a drastic change to SWG it's now, in my opinion.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
Ok, so the booking was full. How many does it take to have a full booking at a bar?
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
Obraik, I want to ask you a serious question...
Do you work for SOE in some capacity? Do you work with the SWG developers? Is there ANY connection that would personally link you to these people? I really am serious...
Every bad step this game, the developers, and SOE take, you defend. You defend what often really has no defense. You go out of your way to basically defend and often misrepresent issues related to this game, the developers, and SOE.
I really do hope you work for SOE. I hope they allow you free game time, I hope they actually pay you. If you do not work for them, on this game in some capacity then I have no clue how to explain you... You're the absolute worst fanboy in this history of video gaming. That is IF you don't...
Like I said, I REALLY hope you get perks from SOE for the work you do on the forums. You post like someone who essentially does PR for a company. It only makes sense if you are actually an employee, and like I said, in the off-chance you are not an employee and just a gamer, who pays monthly, you have incredible issues.
Admit you work for SOE, why hide it? We enjoy the lively debate all the same.
lol, Obraik just fess up on this one, look over the previous meet & greets, none have been as small as this one and they doubtless had the same problem with cancellations even at the first one, shit it's no wonder SOE forgot to lay a table for the SWG attendees at the fan faire last year.
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
Ease up everyone. We all know that there were tons of fans there, but you just couldn't see them in that photo.
Most of them were out in the field doing quests. The convention center is so big that people don't flock to the hot spots like they used to in the old days. Everyone is spread out now and not the actual dev chat outpost.
Seriously though, I have found some things Obriak has said to be enlightening. Sometimes though he says things like this that just don't make any sense at all. Even if people who signed up and didn't show the size of the room tells the whole story. There are maybe 10-12 tables in total, counting the empty ones.
lol, Obraik just fess up on this one, look over the previous meet & greets, none have been as small as this one and they doubtless had the same problem with cancellations even at the first one, shit it's no wonder SOE forgot to lay a table for the SWG attendees at the fan faire last year.
I'm not sure I'm reading this right, SOE forgot to include the fans of one of their own games at the fan faire?
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
You are correct. Notice all the empty tables there. They have room for at least another 10.
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
Obraik, I want to ask you a serious question...
Do you work for SOE in some capacity? Do you work with the SWG developers? Is there ANY connection that would personally link you to these people? I really am serious...
Every bad step this game, the developers, and SOE take, you defend. You defend what often really has no defense. You go out of your way to basically defend and often misrepresent issues related to this game, the developers, and SOE.
I really do hope you work for SOE. I hope they allow you free game time, I hope they actually pay you. If you do not work for them, on this game in some capacity then I have no clue how to explain you... You're the absolute worst fanboy in this history of video gaming. That is IF you don't...
Like I said, I REALLY hope you get perks from SOE for the work you do on the forums. You post like someone who essentially does PR for a company. It only makes sense if you are actually an employee, and like I said, in the off-chance you are not an employee and just a gamer, who pays monthly, you have incredible issues.
Admit you work for SOE, why hide it? We enjoy the lively debate all the same.
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting.
I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?
Through the summit pictures we can now watch it dying.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Its a san francisco party for a freaking 5 year old video game.
I'm not flying my ass to San Fran for any god dang video game, no matter how much I like it or don't like it.
To be honest, if they do the Battle of Hoth any good, I might give it a shot.
But I kjnow in the end, you'll still be flying a Snowspeeder WITHOUT A REBEL FREAKING FLIGHTSUIT that was NEVER ADDED TO SWG. god.............. damnit.............. that pisses me off just thinking about it. All those Imperial Players with their movie-accurate armor, and the Rebels? Nothing but inaccurate crap!
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Unless I somehow hack into the SOE servers, I'm not going to be able to tell you that info All I know is what I was told by a person that attended the event on my server that there were alot of unclaimed badges after the Summit started.
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Unless I somehow hack into the SOE servers, I'm not going to be able to tell you that info All I know is what I was told by a person that attended the event on my server that there were alot of unclaimed badges after the Summit started.
Well that is my point Obriak. You cannot say what the capacity of the event was, so saying it's fully booked doesn't mean anything. The event may have only been set for a capacity of 50 people, so a fully booked event doesn't mean much does it?
However, saying it is fully booked sounds like you're trying to imply that it was a massive success - which judging from the pictures seems to be in complete contrast.
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting.
I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?
Who said anything about Obraik being there?
But in response to your question about who would drive for hours to be there I'd have to say many judging from the past events.
Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting. I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?
Please see previous events held in the past for details. The further back, the better...
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LMAO!!!! There were like 12 people in attendance!!!
Tecmo Bowl.
I love the giant mirror in the back in the one pic to make it look like there is a lot more people there then there really is lol
they had a visit from the entirely playerbase ...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
minus the developer "Armada"
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Talk about a dead game.
Looks like they had it at Pizza Hut
That was funny but sad at the same time, I remember seeing SWG fanfests (not post NGE summits) where they had halls in Las Vegas packed and people were in long queues just to ask a DEV a question. Even the summit just after the NGE had plenty of people, mostly VETs hoping for a rollback.
That hall had something like a player to DEV ratio of 4 to 1 at most, maybe even 3 to 1, that's just sad and I don't see what the point is in holding these summits anymore? When like only 20 people turn up, you've got to know you're in trouble. The last EVE fanfest was in Iceland and half of their subs are mining bots, still they probably had more people using the Gents at anyone time than SWG had at their entire summit.
If ever there was a time for a drastic change to SWG it's now, in my opinion.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I've had busier Tuesday nights hanging out at a coffee shop with friends.
Next year it'll probably be held in the back of a van in the SoE parking lot :P
A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full. From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.
Ok, so the booking was full. How many does it take to have a full booking at a bar?
Do you work for SOE in some capacity? Do you work with the SWG developers? Is there ANY connection that would personally link you to these people? I really am serious...
Every bad step this game, the developers, and SOE take, you defend. You defend what often really has no defense. You go out of your way to basically defend and often misrepresent issues related to this game, the developers, and SOE.
I really do hope you work for SOE. I hope they allow you free game time, I hope they actually pay you. If you do not work for them, on this game in some capacity then I have no clue how to explain you... You're the absolute worst fanboy in this history of video gaming. That is IF you don't...
Like I said, I REALLY hope you get perks from SOE for the work you do on the forums. You post like someone who essentially does PR for a company. It only makes sense if you are actually an employee, and like I said, in the off-chance you are not an employee and just a gamer, who pays monthly, you have incredible issues.
Admit you work for SOE, why hide it? We enjoy the lively debate all the same.
Tecmo Bowl.
lol, Obraik just fess up on this one, look over the previous meet & greets, none have been as small as this one and they doubtless had the same problem with cancellations even at the first one, shit it's no wonder SOE forgot to lay a table for the SWG attendees at the fan faire last year.
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
Obraik admit it or you are working for SOE or you have 5000 accounts by your self to support this game from destruction.
Ease up everyone. We all know that there were tons of fans there, but you just couldn't see them in that photo.
Most of them were out in the field doing quests. The convention center is so big that people don't flock to the hot spots like they used to in the old days. Everyone is spread out now and not the actual dev chat outpost.
Seriously though, I have found some things Obriak has said to be enlightening. Sometimes though he says things like this that just don't make any sense at all. Even if people who signed up and didn't show the size of the room tells the whole story. There are maybe 10-12 tables in total, counting the empty ones.
You are correct. Notice all the empty tables there. They have room for at least another 10.
Do you work for SOE in some capacity? Do you work with the SWG developers? Is there ANY connection that would personally link you to these people? I really am serious...
Every bad step this game, the developers, and SOE take, you defend. You defend what often really has no defense. You go out of your way to basically defend and often misrepresent issues related to this game, the developers, and SOE.
I really do hope you work for SOE. I hope they allow you free game time, I hope they actually pay you. If you do not work for them, on this game in some capacity then I have no clue how to explain you... You're the absolute worst fanboy in this history of video gaming. That is IF you don't...
Like I said, I REALLY hope you get perks from SOE for the work you do on the forums. You post like someone who essentially does PR for a company. It only makes sense if you are actually an employee, and like I said, in the off-chance you are not an employee and just a gamer, who pays monthly, you have incredible issues.
Admit you work for SOE, why hide it? We enjoy the lively debate all the same.
Hmm, who has the bigger issues here? The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
__________________________________________________________________________________Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting.
I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?
Through the summit pictures we can now watch it dying.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Who gives a flying shit, you guys?
Its a san francisco party for a freaking 5 year old video game.
I'm not flying my ass to San Fran for any god dang video game, no matter how much I like it or don't like it.
To be honest, if they do the Battle of Hoth any good, I might give it a shot.
But I kjnow in the end, you'll still be flying a Snowspeeder WITHOUT A REBEL FREAKING FLIGHTSUIT that was NEVER ADDED TO SWG. god.............. damnit.............. that pisses me off just thinking about it. All those Imperial Players with their movie-accurate armor, and the Rebels? Nothing but inaccurate crap!
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Unless I somehow hack into the SOE servers, I'm not going to be able to tell you that info All I know is what I was told by a person that attended the event on my server that there were alot of unclaimed badges after the Summit started.Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
Unless I somehow hack into the SOE servers, I'm not going to be able to tell you that info All I know is what I was told by a person that attended the event on my server that there were alot of unclaimed badges after the Summit started.Well that is my point Obriak. You cannot say what the capacity of the event was, so saying it's fully booked doesn't mean anything. The event may have only been set for a capacity of 50 people, so a fully booked event doesn't mean much does it?
However, saying it is fully booked sounds like you're trying to imply that it was a massive success - which judging from the pictures seems to be in complete contrast.
Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?
Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.
__________________________________________________________________________________Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting.
I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?
Who said anything about Obraik being there?
But in response to your question about who would drive for hours to be there I'd have to say many judging from the past events.
Please see previous events held in the past for details. The further back, the better...