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2gig not gonna do it
Kaze
Member Posts: 55
I gotta interject here as I have been in PVP weekend and open beta.
My System:
INtel 6850 (3Ghz)
2GB ram DDR2
EVGA 8800GTS (G92)
500Gb H/D
64 bit OS
and in cities the FPS drop to 13-20fps at medium. Out in the wild 75FPS all day.
I'm gonna need more ram for in cities but don't plan to live my existence in AoC there, just to make the game a bit more enjoyable. The game looks amazing but in cities its turning my HD into memory and slows down to slide show quality.
Just be cautious of what you get if you got the opportunity to buy 4 Gig of ram and your OS will allow get it on one shipping charge.
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It may just be the extreme amount of detail in the cities, so ram may not help as much as you think it will however Ram is so cheap right now I wouldnt see a reason not to get 4gigs if it does help at all.
Well, your HDD is kinda large which might slow you down for loading but its probably more like you are weighing your system down with other horseshite. If people knew how to keep their system clean they would probably get a 50% performance increase. Learn to run a clean system, I run this with an -average- of 45 fps with graphics maxed (never going below 20).
Windows XP 32bit
Intel E6750
Geforce 512MB 8800GT
2 GB RAM
4 GBs of RAM isn't needed quite yet unless youll be multi-tasking a media editing program or something else processor/RAM heavy while you play and MMO. Even then you should be fine esp with a dual core processor.
Another possibility is depending on what your motherboard is you could put yourself in a bottleneck if you dont know your way around a PC.
Hell it could even be your system getting too hot or perhaps your power supply isnt pumping enough power for your GPU to stress itself. So many possibilities although I find the most common is an unclean OS.
Once they patch up all the memory leaks, 2 gigs shouldn't be a problem at all. I balance out at 80% of 2 gigs, but it creeps up slowly to 98% as I go to 6+ diffrent zones. It doesn't seem to clear all the old memory for zones you have left.
well you are running a 64bit os so I would recommend 4gb RAM but also when was the last time you defragged?keep your system clean and running well
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
You may know this already but I do the following:
* Check your startup menu and switch off all the crap applications like MSN messenger, Quicktime etc. Easier still just go to 'Run' and 'MSCONFIG'. See what your PC starts up with and shut all non essential items down.
Use a program like:
* CCleaner (Free I think) or PC Optimizer (not free) They scan your system and clear out a lot of junk and fix registry errors
Seriously clear out all the crap on your HDD. If you have loads of games installed, uninstall the less played ones and keep the save files. Backup all your photos etc to disk and delete from HDD. Scan and Defrag.
Install a Ram freeing XP program like 'FreeXPRAM' if you have this in the background it will constantly try and free up Ram for you.
It will definitely help if you do the above.
Or if you have cash do what I do and buy a fast HDD and just use that for games and nothing else.
If you really want to improve gameplay, get rid of vista. You need 4 gigs with that beast running. 2 gigs on XP runs great.
Vista is not the problem, I run Vista and it runs fine. As seen below I have only 2gb, it runs around 60fps at full settings constantly. But it does drop to around 20-30 FPS in towns, mostly it pops back and forth so causes a "jerkiness" which I assume is a issue with the game mostly. I keep my HDD cleaned out, and defrag regularly, I actually noticed a 5fps jump after a defrag. But I am going to be buying another 2gb of RAM here before AoC comes out to get the most out of it. Also one day I will probably by a faster HDD.
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-Currently playing FFXIV, and BDO.
With a system like that you can afford $40 for more ram.
What about your page file, using a USB drive or dedicate HD?
I've heard from a few people that they had less performance with the Open Beta client then they did whith the one they're still bound to the NDA with.
Its your Ram. I have vista 64 also but with 6gig ram and have similar fps as you, but no jerkiness on max setting even with bloom and AA on. My vid card is the 8800gtx 765mb.
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Turn down some of the graphics settings on the card. This helped my 8800 gts quite bit. Especially in the cities. Once I had the settings lowered I had no problems at all.
PVP did slow it down a bit, but was still very good. No hitches or slide shows.
What about your page file, using a USB drive or dedicate HD?
I've heard from a few people that they had less performance with the Open Beta client then they did whith the one they're still bound to the NDA with.
Its server 2008 64 (Made to look and run like Vista)
Thanks for all the info guys, I was wondering if anyone else was have a bit of trouble in town, seems it's not just me. I will in fact get 2 more gig or just swap all the ram out for 8gig total. I love the way this os feels and runs. If anyone is interested in how its done here are some links.
http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/
http://www.win2008workstation.com/forum/
I haven't played AoC yet (but have it downloaded and ready for early access
so I can only draw some experience from when I played LOTRO.
I have an AMD dual-core processor, 2 gigs of memory and a GeForce 8800GTS. At least some specs are the same.
When I played LOTRO I could use very high settings on most things but it was one thing that was really hogging the frame rate for me, namely Texture Quality. Having it on the highest I got constant disk lag and Bree for example was a pain in the behind.
My 8800GTS card is only a 320 meg one as well so the GPU memory might be a problem. Don't know if yours (OP) is a 320 or a 640 one but I'm just saying that it might be a bottle neck. If buying 2 gigs more system memory (which is really cheap) still gives you the same problem it might be the graphics card that is the problem.
Appreciate it
thx!
I will pay close attention to whats happening when we get that installed.
Heres the spec on my current vid card:
Model
Brand XFX
Model PVT88GYDD4
Interface
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 8800GTS (G92)
Core clock 678MHz
Stream Processors 128
Memory
Memory Clock 1944MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
General
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Supported Yes
Cooler With Fan
Power Connector 6 Pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes
Dual Core athlon 3600+
2gb PC3200
2x ATI X1950 in xfire
2x 70gb 10krpm SATA1 in RAID0
I lag in towns on every game on the market so I don't bother even trying to fix it. In the wild I can run max graphics on most games.
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Ok, you seem to have a newer card than me since it has 512 meg. When I bought mine they were in 320 or 640 meg flavours...
Your GTS isn't the same GTS that I have then since the meg size depends on some stuff on the cards I don't remember. Anyway, you have more memory on it than I have so the problem you're experiencing probably have to do with system memory then.
As the post above said, it's quite laggy in most cities on most games. It was that in Bree for me (especially compared to the wilderness) and in WoW Shattrath is pretty laggy as well compared to the rest. Most likely have to do that there are a lot of player models to render and keep in memory, and that people are leaving and entering all the time which causes the game to load their models.
You could also partition up your drive and run a dual boot system, one for games with nothing else installed to slow your system down and another for mail, word processing etc.
Edit.......
your first problem was buying an intel.
I can see a few problems here.
1. You have tons of spyware which is using a lot of your HD cache, but that would just effect load times.
2. You are lying about your system specs.
3. You have no idea how a computer works and have probably changed something you shouldn't have in nVidia control panel.
4. Its just you and a very select few people who have this problem which could be from problems 1-3.
Intel is many steps ahead of AMD and is by no means a problem. Buying AMD though is a problem if you want performance.
funny, because i have the same setup as him, except i have an amd64 x2 5400+. no problems.
Doesn't mean anything. Large number of factors play in how something runs. I know for a fact the E6850 dances circles around the 5400+ and almost doubles performance. I myself use the E8400 and 8800GT 512 and get a nice FPS of 45-50 in cities, while using a card with less shader pipes.
Something is wrong which I can't factor in because he might have changed settings or something.
You should not have a problem if it is decent RAM. If it is "Value Select" or "Cheap" ram then 2 gigs will not cut it. The latency is crude on the lower end ram. I am running an AMD 6400 2gigs Corsair XMS 2x raptors at 10k and 2x 8800 GTS (640s) and getting a solid 40-80fps depending on the area. I may assume that the vid memory is taking some of the load. However, my wife has the same ram 2gig XMS with a Pent D 3.4 and an AGP radeon 1650 (512mb) and she is running about 30-60ish fps on medium (with lower distance rendering). My suggestiion (if you have value ram) is to NOT get 2 more gigs but chunk it and get 2 gigs of Corsair XMS or similair. Windows server is not a resource hog if you are running it as a desktop system so that should not be the issue.
I am assuming you have updated ALL of your drivers!
Also AoC OB pre-patch had a lot of memory leaks leading to 1-2gb pagefiles and while the OB post-patch fixed 90% of issues, the memory leak still happened to a very small amount of people.