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XtromassXtromass Member Posts: 662
in Age of Conan: Unchained

I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

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  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    I just put in another 4 hours in the closed beta and I have no idea what you're talking about. The game is running smoother than ever and there's no lag to speak about. In fact I downloaded a new client yesternight. It was too late for me try it out so when I logged in today I was pleasantly surprised - again - over the optimization they had done. I even turned on AA today and it ran better than ever, despite more eyecandy turned on.

    Servers are running great. You have no clue what you're talking about. You say bad servers are natural for Funcom? Well both WoW and LoTRO had several days of downtime the first month after release (EU-servers, I don't know how they did in the US).

    Funcom lost millions when they released Anarchy Online. They got good reviews, but reviewers said in unison that they had lowered it's score based on unstable servers. It's strange how people seems to rationalize that because Funcom had one launch that didn't go painless, then that's the norm for all eternity. In fact the failed AO launch is the gurrantor that AoC will fare much better. Funcom makes games for profit, not to annoy customers. It's almost like people think Funcom didn't learn anything from years of experience in the MMO-business.

     

  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939

    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

    Currently playing:
    LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

    Looking Foward too:
    Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  • KnThrakKnThrak Member Posts: 19

    It's not about whether they want to annoy the customer or not - it is however easy to see AoC could easily use 3-4 more development months.

    That they still release (with no direct rivalry from other games unless you'd count Hello Kitty Online ^_^) means that most probably they're running low on funds.

    So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development. Nothing they can do about it, however this did kill a bunch of games already, the most extreme (and most sad) example is Vanguard, which had insanely well thought-out classes and setups, and nothing else.

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  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575
    Originally posted by howardb


    I just put in another 4 hours in the closed beta and I have no idea what you're talking about. The game is running smoother than ever and there's no lag to speak about. In fact I downloaded a new client yesternight. It was too late for me try it out so when I logged in today I was pleasantly surprised - again - over the optimization they had done. I even turned on AA today and it ran better than ever, despite more eyecandy turned on.
    Servers are running great. You have no clue what you're talking about. You say bad servers are natural for Funcom? Well both WoW and LoTRO had several days of downtime the first month after release (EU-servers, I don't know how they did in the US).
    Funcom lost millions when they released Anarchy Online. They got good reviews, but reviewers said in unison that they had lowered it's score based on unstable servers. It's strange how people seems to rationalize that because Funcom had one launch that didn't go painless, then that's the norm for all eternity. In fact the failed AO launch is the gurrantor that AoC will fare much better. Funcom makes games for profit, not to annoy customers. It's almost like people think Funcom didn't learn anything from years of experience in the MMO-business.
     



    I'm in beta too and I was also surprised when I logged in yesterday afternoon.  Although there were some graphical glitches, the game's performance had improved quite a bit.  I'm hoping they continue to optimize so I can get an idea what kind of upgrades I need to be making in the future. 

  • weslubowweslubow Member UncommonPosts: 163

    What lag/frame issues?

    Buy a computer made in this decade.

    I have run this game on 3 different machines without any problems.

  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939

    Originally posted by KnThrak


    It's not about whether they want to annoy the customer or not - it is however easy to see AoC could easily use 3-4 more development months.
    That they still release (with no direct rivalry from other games unless you'd count Hello Kitty Online ^_^) means that most probably they're running low on funds.
    So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development. Nothing they can do about it, however this did kill a bunch of games already, the most extreme (and most sad) example is Vanguard, which had insanely well thought-out classes and setups, and nothing else.
    I don't think it needs another 3-4 months of development time and I am a WAR fan.  Have been since the game was announced and loved DAoC.  I consider Mythic to be tied for the number 1 MMO developer (with Turbine I might add) and I still consider the game to be well made. 

    Also I doubt they have run out of money.   Turbine has gotten a ton of funding and I am sure that Funcom has been able to raise money as well.  Anytime you have a successful MMO that is still running it gives you the ability to get investment capital.  Which even though AO wasn't a huge success at release it is still active 7 years later. 

    Currently playing:
    LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

    Looking Foward too:
    Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  • virtuellavirtuella Member UncommonPosts: 699

    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

    Ouch you call that a mid range PC?

    I would call it way over mid range.

    If that's a midrange PC mine is a dinosaur :)

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by weslubow


    What lag/frame issues?
    Buy a computer made in this decade.
    I have run this game on 3 different machines without any problems.

    You are in the small minority. A game like this is going to cause a lot of framerate issues. And you know what the people over at Vanguard said when people couldn't play the game due to the framerate? "Get a new PC". Yeah. That worked. Stop being so elitist, cause if you actually read up on the problems of your already failing game, then you'd realize a lot of high end machines are having trouble running it too.

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  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    Originally posted by KnThrak

    So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development.
    I have no idea what you're talking about. Have you even tried the game lately? The game isn't either instable nor does it have any rough edges. It's as ready to launch as any MMO ever was.

    I'm gonna admit that one month ago I was worried that the game would fail - miserably. Then one patch after another improved the game in giant leaps. Two-three weeks ago I got a patch that more than doubled my fps. The game was ready for release before the last patch, but even so that last patch improved it beyond ready.

    It's about time people stopped talking about instability and poor performance because it's a silly discussion. It runs great. People should start talking about the game, it's features, combat system and so on. It's the average joe that makes or breaks this game and I think he's going to love it, just like I am.

  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

    AoC is a lot more demanding than most MMOs.  Actually I think it requires more cpu juice than any available MMO, even VSoH.  But it all has to do with your system.  I recommend finding someone to help you install some new hardware in your machine in order to run the game smoothly.  



    I understand your disappointment.  My system is fairly new, but it is all stock and therefore won't even touch AoC recommended reqs.  I'm going to wait and see what the general consensus is after release though to decide if I want to invest in more hardware.

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

     

    Originally posted by virtuella


     
    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

     

    Ouch you call that a mid range PC?

    I would call it way over mid range.

    If that's a midrange PC mine is a dinosaur :)

    Yes...I would call that midrange

     

    That actually is below recommended (the processor is lower than the rated needed...go figure)

    So...just to see the massive amount of money people would have to spend to upgrade..I put together this basic setup of a system...



    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

    $69.99



    ECS N8800GT-512MX GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    $179.99 + $20.00 Mail-in Rebate



    OCZ Gold Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

    $35.99



    Foxconn NF4SLI7AA-8EKRS2 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Intel Edition ATX Intel Motherboard

    $59.99



    Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200

    $134.99



    And they could steal parts from their old system (cd drive, mouse keyboard, monitor)



    So...480+ bucks to totally replace the computer...

    And this is ABOVE recommended...



    I think Mr. Bush here in the USA just sent us those checks...why not use that?



    Or better yet, save the earth...walk to work, or ride a bike...1 month of no gas = new computer...



    Don't go to anyplace special for vacation, look to your own backyard...we have lakes, waterfalls, mountains to enjoy...great fun awaits

    In so many words...if you cant afford this based on the above specs...then go back and play what your computer can run, and save your dough...



    Aw heck...who am I kidding, people just want a reason to complain...so let 'em...



    I will be having fun lopping off heads...

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    Originally posted by Stellos

    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

    AoC is a lot more demanding than most MMOs.  Actually I think it requires more cpu juice than any available MMO, even VSoH.  But it all has to do with your system.  I recommend finding someone to help you install some new hardware in your machine in order to run the game smoothly.  



    I understand your disappointment.  My system is fairly new, but it is all stock and therefore won't even touch AoC recommended reqs.  I'm going to wait and see what the general consensus is after release though to decide if I want to invest in more hardware.

    But, this is not true..

    On the same systems, I was able to run AoC more stable, and with less framerate drops than Vanguard...as the AoC code definitely uses what you have more effeciently..

    All it will really take is to make minor changes to your system, and you will be golden people...

    If you really want to run the game, and NOT complain all day here on the forums...build the recommended system from my previous post, and have some fun...

    Later

  • 0over00over0 Member UncommonPosts: 488
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)



    It's already been sorted.

    Apply lemon juice and candle flame here to reveal secret message.

  • MordriaMordria Member Posts: 556

    I experienced lag only a few time pre-patch OB

    after the patch I had none.  /shrug

    and had I been lagging I would not have taken 140 screen shots running around and fighting.

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  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    Originally posted by elondor


    lol I have learned not to try to argue with fanboy's, they clearly can't accept the truth when they are so blinded.
    I'm going to give this game 6 months after launch before I even try the free-trial lol.  give them time to fix more stuff and sort things out the way they SHOULD be at a launch.
     
    this "oh it will get better" attitude is bullshit, don't tell me it's normal to buy an unfinished product just because you have come to terms with buying unfinished products over and over again, I won't support that idea.
     
    Who's blind here? You or me? Do you want me to "accept" that the game is broken when it's clearly working as intended? I could say the game needed 6 more months. I could say the game isn't finished and that it's broken in it's current state. I could, but I would be lying through my teeths. The game is as finished as it would ever be and reviews from major gamereviewers will tell you just that in a few days/weeks.

    It's getting very old listening to people that clearly haven't even tried the game. People basing their opinions on other peoples opinions. How someone can say a game is unfinished and not have seen or tried it themselves is beyond me.

  • RubadubdubRubadubdub Member Posts: 9

     

    Originally posted by Zorndorf


     
    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

    LOL

     

    Please go out into the real world and look at some hardware normal people buy and what they bought in the last 3  years.

    Crysis sold 37.000 copies in its first 3 weeks and that was even Christmas time !

    BTW you DO know that 4 Gbyte is only good with Vista 64 bit.



    Hehe, about time someone responded to that with a "LOL"

     

    The people who are saying "I can run this game with a ______ and a _______ so get a new f-ing rig, jeez" really have no idea what they're talking about. Some people can run the game great, while others chug along at 15-25 fps regardless of their rig. FC still hasn't dealt with the plethora of problems that occur with different hardware configurations. Let's hope they do because come May 20th if hardware configuration problems are still rampant, then people will be whining and bitching about it until baby Jesus begins to cry, and no one likes to see baby Jesus cry!

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    Originally posted by Rubadubdub


     
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


     
    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

    LOL

     

    Please go out into the real world and look at some hardware normal people buy and what they bought in the last 3  years.

    Crysis sold 37.000 copies in its first 3 weeks and that was even Christmas time !

    BTW you DO know that 4 Gbyte is only good with Vista 64 bit.



    Hehe, about time someone responded to that with a "LOL"

     

    The people who are saying "I can run this game with a ______ and a _______ so get a new f-ing rig, jeez" really have no idea what they're talking about. Some people can run the game great, while others chug along at 15-25 fps regardless of their rig. FC still hasn't dealt with the plethora of problems that occur with different hardware configurations. Let's hope they do because come May 20th if hardware configuration problems are still rampant, then people will be whining and bitching about it until baby Jesus begins to cry, and no one likes to see baby Jesus cry!

    I wish I could agree with this, but I had posted previously about running this game on 3 different systems, and all ran quite well..3 variations...all with different memory, cpu's and video cards...

    ZERO issues

    It will be an issue that people do not know how to work with their systems, and do not understand how to fix their issues...but, that will get rectified once they post on the forums, and after release...

    Blaming a game for poor performance that has not been released yet is reaching pretty far...

    When it is released and no on can run it...then complain...but, for now...calling the game a failure is like saying the next president of the USA will start a war in North Korea...

    No one knows what the next president will do until he is in office

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

     

    Originally posted by openedge1


     
    Originally posted by Rubadubdub


     
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


     
    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by Xtromass


    I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)
    What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

     

     

    My specs:

     

    AMD 64 X2 4200+

    4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

    8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

    Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

    7200 SATA Harddrive.

    LOL

     

    Please go out into the real world and look at some hardware normal people buy and what they bought in the last 3  years.

    Crysis sold 37.000 copies in its first 3 weeks and that was even Christmas time !

    BTW you DO know that 4 Gbyte is only good with Vista 64 bit.



    Hehe, about time someone responded to that with a "LOL"

     

    The people who are saying "I can run this game with a ______ and a _______ so get a new f-ing rig, jeez" really have no idea what they're talking about. Some people can run the game great, while others chug along at 15-25 fps regardless of their rig. FC still hasn't dealt with the plethora of problems that occur with different hardware configurations. Let's hope they do because come May 20th if hardware configuration problems are still rampant, then people will be whining and bitching about it until baby Jesus begins to cry, and no one likes to see baby Jesus cry!

    I wish I could agree with this, but I had posted previously about running this game on 3 different systems, and all ran quite well..3 variations...all with different memory, cpu's and video cards...

     

    ZERO issues

    It will be an issue that people do not know how to work with their systems, and do not understand how to fix their issues...but, that will get rectified once they post on the forums, and after release...

    Blaming a game for poor performance that has not been released yet is reaching pretty far...

    When it is released and no on can run it...then complain...but, for now...calling the game a failure is like saying the next president of the USA will start a war in North Korea...

    No one knows what the next president will do until he is in office

    How dare you say HE you sexist!!!  No, I'm kidding..

     

     

    I ran AoC on two different configurations and they both ran great, especially after the performance patch as I like to call it.  I would have to say that this game is definitely ready for launch, nothing can be perfect.. during the first couple weeks.. we'll see a lot of patches that are going to make the game run even better.

     

    The only real issues that I saw were graphical glitches and not utilizing our CPU's properly.  Those could potentially be fixed come retail.  Claiming something is going to fail or something is a failure before even giving it a shot is downright moronic. 

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