... I actually do not think so Zorndorf (according the age). I'm tired of your hate posts, you are upscaling small problems to status HUGE. When you stop with that, then I'll give you some respect. And I do not care on how MANY games you played. All I see when I've been reading your posts are complaints after complaints, making small things big. And it's totally boooooooooring. .... I computers, and for those it's sadly not working so good for are a minority and hopefully funcom are working on their issues. I really hope AoC or WAR will be great, we need a new good mmo (atleast we that want more depth than in wow). Comeon now cheer up and stop the hate :P ps: do you have anything to backup the "too many people in city so you are locked out" statement? I can't find any info about it.
Tx for the post. I always talk about Conan, never about the "people" that play it like ALL Wow haters do on this site.
First the issues in all of my posts come back to ONE big design complaint.
MMORPG's can't have OFF line graphics techniques. There is of course the loading graphics issue, but all further complaints are a result of this design.
Secondly I am in Conan since open beta (ordered the CE) and I have the code to prove it. I didn't download 13 Gig for nothing you know.
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Well the lock out system of the city is the following: when too many people are in it, another (loaded) instance is created of the same city. It's like going to another parallel dimension. You are in the same city but in reality you're not.
The same will be used with those upcoming siege systems. THAT's why they limit these so called massive siege fights to 48 person groups. The computers just can't handle this in MMO's with these silly kind of on line graphics.
Just like the FIXED entry points in the zoning system it is a method of "having a solution" to avoid lag and FPS.
Showing once again that off line graphics techniques are NOT to do things.
I think this discussion is even the core of all problems future MMORPG's face.
With kids asking so called more realistic graphics HOW can designers explain WHY MMORPG's can't have them without hampering gameplay.
Actually, DirectX 10 does allow game designers to be able to put a lot of offline graphic/physic techniques found in offline Pc gaming into multi player or MMO's. To see for yourself simply get a copy of Crysis from the store than go play on a dx9 only server, then a dx10 only server then come back and make that statement again. It can be done in dx9, it just puts a lot more load on the servers. Age of Conan future is dx10. Nobody will be playing AOC in 3 years time still using the dx9 client.
why compare? WoW is for the masses with no skill and crappy computers. I even bet poster no. 2 in this thread is either 1 or both hehe Try the game out instead, and if u dont wanna buy it yet, then wait for buddy codes to come out :-)
you may not see it but AOC is also designed for the masses.
AOC is better then WOW, the quests are great, the story line is great, the graphics are , the game play is decent/good but it is still a themepark just like WOW/EQ However WOW has things that are done better by example . The world is one example.
----------------------------------------------------------- the old days, the days of gold.
representer of euhporium, shade/amity , high member of the council.
played
UO,M59,EVE,L2,AC,GW,WOW,LOTRO,SWG pre cu/nge,COH/COV, VG,TR,L1, POTBS,Neocron 1 and 2, DAOC pre TOA and age of conan
playing: EVE ONLINE Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn
Blizzard attention to detail in everything they do in their zones and eveytrhing is why they are at the top. Look at aoc zones after lvl 30 and see how much work they need doing.
The Conan game doesn't even have an auction house I just found out playing it .
Economics is the MOTOR behind any good professional MMORPG these days. Crafting, loot value, doing commercial actions is just ONE of the driving forces behind modern day MMO's. Not including an MMORPG auction house/marketplace these days is a straight way to suicide. Another way that blocks Conan character development as a modern MMORPG. It is indeed truely a first generation MMORPG with OFF line graphic techniques. Down to loading screens and constantly loading instances. And for those saying "I don't mind waiting 30 seconds"/ Just met someone who waited 5(!) minutes to wait for a load because he was in another instance of the SAME (sic) city. Happy grouping times ahead. Guess we won't see flying quests or underwater worlds in this "Age of loading".
It HAS auction houses, the traders in it are just not "online" yet. Probably they will at launch, I hope. So once again you EXAGGERATE!! Constantly loading blablabla, give it a rest now will you. Was that person who waited 5 minutes on a 386 16Mhz computer? Seriously, something is wrong with that computer.
For the record, wow's economics i fupped. Old SWG that was a game with great economic. And I truely start thinking you work for Blizzard, and I'm NOT EXAGGERATING.
you may not see it but AOC is also designed for the masses.
AOC is better then WOW, the quests are great, the story line is great, the graphics are , the game play is decent/good but it is still a themepark just like WOW/EQ
The Conan game doesn't even have an auction house I just found out playing it .
- WRONG. Please read the official forums. The game has a broker system
Economics is the MOTOR behind any good professional MMORPG these days.
- WRONG. This may be your point of view. But the main factor nowadays is FUN. Actually i could think of a great game without any economy.
Crafting, loot value, doing commercial actions is just ONE of the driving forces behind modern day MMO's.
- Read above. Economy games might be fun for you. However, if you played some mmo's lately you would have recognized that money is less important every day and patch.
Not including an MMORPG auction house/marketplace these days is a straight way to suicide.
- Read above. They are ingame and disabled for a bug fix.
Another way that blocks Conan character development as a modern MMORPG.
It is indeed truely a first generation MMORPG with OFF line graphic techniques. Down to loading screens and constantly loading instances.
- SO WRONG. You dont understand the technical side of client/server solutions. Really not. Offline graphic techniques ? What is that ? BS
Actually every mmo out there works the same and is based on the same technique. In vanguard they call it chunks, in EQ2 its zones and instances, in LotRo its zones and instances and in wow its zones and instances. Technically seen its all the same, they are virtual spaces containing objects. Depending on how big the data of the objects are the loading is seemless (WoW) or seemless wit a short stutter (vanguard) or they show a loading screen. Its all the same. The only difference is the loading time when crossing virtual borders.
And for those saying "I don't mind waiting 30 seconds"/ Just met someone who waited 5(!) minutes to wait for a load because he was in another instance of the SAME (sic) city.
Happy grouping times ahead.
Guess we won't see flying quests or underwater worlds in this "Age of loading".
Why just not quit the game ? It seems to annoy you a lot.
You are suffering from a well known illness. We REAL veterans know it. Have been htere and done that. The illness is that people cant stop to compare every mmo with their first mmo they played.
Your "first love" was WoW. Stick with her or let her go. Whatever you do, grow up as a mmo player. Right now you make a fool out of yourself.
Stop comparing and adapt or there wont be any fun out there anymore.
everyone is so into hoping some new MMO is going to dethrone WoW....why? These 2 games aren't even on the same lvl. WoW seems to be more pve/raid based with pvp there as decoration. AoC on the otherhand with city sieges and all that good stuff is obviously geared more towards players that trully enjoy pvp.
I personally like what wow has done for the gaming community. Since it was first released it seems that the MMO fanbase has grown tremendously and alot more MMOs are being developed in hopes of getting a piece of the action. I think the only thing i don't like about WoW is that now every game that is released gets compared to it and players that have never played any other MMO except for WoW think they know everything that there is to know about gaming.
...i personally don't care for either of the two but i enjoy reading players that argue points about which games are better and why. Does it really matter? IMO as long as the game has a big enough fanbase to support expansions, good customer service, timely updates, hot fixes etc.. and allow me to enjoy my time when logged in then i could care less about trying to justify why the game I'm playing is so much better then the one you're playing.
I have said this before I have 2 level 70's on WoW and 3 level 80's on EQ2 and the list goes on for mmo's for me. At this given time I am enjoying AoC. I am about out of gas for WoW and EQ2 and to continuously keep comparing to a game that just started yesterday is pretty sad. Some people like it some don't but this constant comparison to WoW really need to stop already. Pretty much all MMO's have taken ideas from one another to make good games. Me I don't make the games I just enjoy PLAYING them.
This thread confirms my opinion of WoW having a horrible community, and AoC which is going to have an even worse community. Just seeing you all flame each other like that, and this is only a conversation between 4-5 people (mostly) if AoC ever hits 1 million subs... The thought of it makes me loose all faith in AoC...
You know it, the best way to realize your dreams is waking up and start moving, never lose hope and always keep up.
everyone is so into hoping some new MMO is going to dethrone WoW....why?
Why ? Because some people love the money game. WoW's hype was worth money from day 1. Even the open beta keys sold for 150 Euro on ebay. Once the hype of WoW reached its peak level caped accounts with epix sold for 3000 U$ and probably more. I am not talking about professional leveling and goldseller services. Every Jon Doe and his cousin made a fortune with WoW. Some amateur leveler probably made 50k U$ over the last 3 years with WoW accounts. They still sell for 500 U$ and more today.
So WHY would people want an new big hype ? hehe...
I'm afraid that these forums can not give you a clear definite picture of the in-game communities. In any case, people build the communities they want to stay in. Some misfits will always be around. It's up to everyone to learn how to deal with them, ignore them and have fun with the game of their choice.
I have three WoW Accounts and played since release. I cancelled all of my account's which I left behind years of raiding work. That is all I got to say.
After playing conan then looking at wow again it blows in comparison. WoW seems like it is for candy ass faggots now that I see both side by side.
I love AoC it feels like DAoC, UO, and SWG all in one it is just simply amazing.
"The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"
Zorndorf, all your points have already been countered. Some of your points are even blatent bullshit, such as the "no auction" house thing. Yeah, there are loading zones(highest I've waited is 10 seconds, and my computer is mid-range, maybe you're playing an old comp?), but that's a tradeoff for getting far better combat mechanics.
You don't like AoC, and that is fine by me. As long as when you post about it, you post some valid reasons. Rather than spewing crap, some if it downright not true(auctionhouse to name one, loading time, you can skip cutscenes, and so on), come up with something you can actually believe, like you just don't think the combat system is worth the loss of immersion due to loading zones or whatever.
I stand to be corrected, but I don't think I'm wrong in stating that.
My access code is 49EXNFCRWK with 6 more figures (just to avoid stealin) It was send to me on wednesday 14th of May by gameMania belgium and I downloaded the game to begin play on Sun 18th
It was because I ordered the CE edition.
The server = european early access.
Since the offical launch for Euope will be on May 23, I'll send you a copy of my CE box
So instead of attacking me in person you should all have a look at Age of Loading..
And if you give me your personal mail I'll forward the above information in your mailbox.
I am no liar.
I've made my thoughts clear, and it has taken numerous attempts to get a reply as to whether you are actually playing the retail client or not?
Which despite the above statement, you still havn't confirmed as a yes or a no as to whether you are actually ingame. Anyone can state eurpean early access. You continue to quote hand over fist things about this game that are just not in line with the way it is in the retail client. The humungeous loading times being one off the top of my head.
You might gain some favourable replies to what you are claiming in some of your posts, but as long as you continue to dis this game the way you are and in the way you do, then why should people give you anything but the contempt that you really do deserve.
If this game really grates your arse as much as your posts suggest, then why are you here posting all this crap? Just let it go - you're not going to sway anyone going about things like you are.
Why would i want your ce box ? if you're in euro early access, then how about talking about things that you do like. Everything you state is negative. I've yet to see one thing you've said that praises this game.
Go find something in the early access you do like, and take a screenshot of it - come back and tell us all about it. There's a good chap
I don't mind people knocking something , fair play - but if you're going to do it , then be factual in your criticism
I have three WoW Accounts and played since release. I cancelled all of my account's which I left behind years of raiding work. That is all I got to say. After playing conan then looking at wow again it blows in comparison. WoW seems like it is for candy ass faggots now that I see both side by side. I love AoC it feels like DAoC, UO, and SWG all in one it is just simply amazing.
What's one person doing with 3 (paying) subscription accounts ?
Oh I see it sounds heavier if you say 3 instead of one.
See you in WotLK.
Maybe he's actually telling the truth. Maybe take a leaf out of his book and come back.
Comments
Tx for the post. I always talk about Conan, never about the "people" that play it like ALL Wow haters do on this site.
First the issues in all of my posts come back to ONE big design complaint.
MMORPG's can't have OFF line graphics techniques. There is of course the loading graphics issue, but all further complaints are a result of this design.
Secondly I am in Conan since open beta (ordered the CE) and I have the code to prove it. I didn't download 13 Gig for nothing you know.
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Well the lock out system of the city is the following: when too many people are in it, another (loaded) instance is created of the same city. It's like going to another parallel dimension. You are in the same city but in reality you're not.
The same will be used with those upcoming siege systems. THAT's why they limit these so called massive siege fights to 48 person groups. The computers just can't handle this in MMO's with these silly kind of on line graphics.
Just like the FIXED entry points in the zoning system it is a method of "having a solution" to avoid lag and FPS.
Showing once again that off line graphics techniques are NOT to do things.
I think this discussion is even the core of all problems future MMORPG's face.
With kids asking so called more realistic graphics HOW can designers explain WHY MMORPG's can't have them without hampering gameplay.
Actually, DirectX 10 does allow game designers to be able to put a lot of offline graphic/physic techniques found in offline Pc gaming into multi player or MMO's. To see for yourself simply get a copy of Crysis from the store than go play on a dx9 only server, then a dx10 only server then come back and make that statement again. It can be done in dx9, it just puts a lot more load on the servers. Age of Conan future is dx10. Nobody will be playing AOC in 3 years time still using the dx9 client.
you may not see it but AOC is also designed for the masses.
AOC is better then WOW, the quests are great, the story line is great, the graphics are , the game play is decent/good but it is still a themepark just like WOW/EQ However WOW has things that are done better by example . The world is one example.
-----------------------------------------------------------
the old days, the days of gold.
representer of euhporium, shade/amity , high member of the council.
played
UO,M59,EVE,L2,AC,GW,WOW,LOTRO,SWG pre cu/nge,COH/COV, VG,TR,L1, POTBS,Neocron 1 and 2, DAOC pre TOA and age of conan
playing: EVE ONLINE
Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn
You keep avoiding my very simple question and this is the third time I've asked now - are you in Early Access in AOC?
It's a simple yes/no answer. You're bringing up the same things repeatedly about this game - are you actually playing the Earlt Access?
Your call.
Zondorf: what server are you on?
As mentioned in the other thread, AoC does have an auction house function. You can access it through the trader NPCs.
Yeah right..
It HAS auction houses, the traders in it are just not "online" yet. Probably they will at launch, I hope. So once again you EXAGGERATE!! Constantly loading blablabla, give it a rest now will you. Was that person who waited 5 minutes on a 386 16Mhz computer? Seriously, something is wrong with that computer.
For the record, wow's economics i fupped. Old SWG that was a game with great economic. And I truely start thinking you work for Blizzard, and I'm NOT EXAGGERATING.
I stand to be corrected, but I don't think I'm wrong in stating that.
- WRONG. Please read the official forums. The game has a broker system
Economics is the MOTOR behind any good professional MMORPG these days.
- WRONG. This may be your point of view. But the main factor nowadays is FUN. Actually i could think of a great game without any economy.
Crafting, loot value, doing commercial actions is just ONE of the driving forces behind modern day MMO's.
- Read above. Economy games might be fun for you. However, if you played some mmo's lately you would have recognized that money is less important every day and patch.
Not including an MMORPG auction house/marketplace these days is a straight way to suicide.
- Read above. They are ingame and disabled for a bug fix.
Another way that blocks Conan character development as a modern MMORPG.
It is indeed truely a first generation MMORPG with OFF line graphic techniques. Down to loading screens and constantly loading instances.
- SO WRONG. You dont understand the technical side of client/server solutions. Really not. Offline graphic techniques ? What is that ? BS
Actually every mmo out there works the same and is based on the same technique. In vanguard they call it chunks, in EQ2 its zones and instances, in LotRo its zones and instances and in wow its zones and instances. Technically seen its all the same, they are virtual spaces containing objects. Depending on how big the data of the objects are the loading is seemless (WoW) or seemless wit a short stutter (vanguard) or they show a loading screen. Its all the same. The only difference is the loading time when crossing virtual borders.
And for those saying "I don't mind waiting 30 seconds"/ Just met someone who waited 5(!) minutes to wait for a load because he was in another instance of the SAME (sic) city.
Happy grouping times ahead.
Guess we won't see flying quests or underwater worlds in this "Age of loading".
Why just not quit the game ? It seems to annoy you a lot.
You are suffering from a well known illness. We REAL veterans know it. Have been htere and done that. The illness is that people cant stop to compare every mmo with their first mmo they played.
Your "first love" was WoW. Stick with her or let her go. Whatever you do, grow up as a mmo player. Right now you make a fool out of yourself.
Stop comparing and adapt or there wont be any fun out there anymore.
everyone is so into hoping some new MMO is going to dethrone WoW....why? These 2 games aren't even on the same lvl. WoW seems to be more pve/raid based with pvp there as decoration. AoC on the otherhand with city sieges and all that good stuff is obviously geared more towards players that trully enjoy pvp.
I personally like what wow has done for the gaming community. Since it was first released it seems that the MMO fanbase has grown tremendously and alot more MMOs are being developed in hopes of getting a piece of the action. I think the only thing i don't like about WoW is that now every game that is released gets compared to it and players that have never played any other MMO except for WoW think they know everything that there is to know about gaming.
...i personally don't care for either of the two but i enjoy reading players that argue points about which games are better and why. Does it really matter? IMO as long as the game has a big enough fanbase to support expansions, good customer service, timely updates, hot fixes etc.. and allow me to enjoy my time when logged in then i could care less about trying to justify why the game I'm playing is so much better then the one you're playing.
AoC let me down just like all other MMOs. Ive already logged back into WoW and will be ebaying my AoC game.
I have said this before I have 2 level 70's on WoW and 3 level 80's on EQ2 and the list goes on for mmo's for me. At this given time I am enjoying AoC. I am about out of gas for WoW and EQ2 and to continuously keep comparing to a game that just started yesterday is pretty sad. Some people like it some don't but this constant comparison to WoW really need to stop already. Pretty much all MMO's have taken ideas from one another to make good games. Me I don't make the games I just enjoy PLAYING them.
Can't we all just get along
This thread confirms my opinion of WoW having a horrible community, and AoC which is going to have an even worse community. Just seeing you all flame each other like that, and this is only a conversation between 4-5 people (mostly) if AoC ever hits 1 million subs... The thought of it makes me loose all faith in AoC...
You know it, the best way to realize your dreams is waking up and start moving, never lose hope and always keep up.
If WoW is the best game you've played then you're obviously new to MMO's.
Go away, we dont care that you're selling your copy.
So WHY would people want an new big hype ? hehe...
I'm afraid that these forums can not give you a clear definite picture of the in-game communities. In any case, people build the communities they want to stay in. Some misfits will always be around. It's up to everyone to learn how to deal with them, ignore them and have fun with the game of their choice.
You can't quit a game you're not even playing, and my money's on claiming this guy isn't even playing AOC retail.
the games got tits, WTF is everyones problem just enjoy them!@!@!@W!@!
WoW stole 3 years of my life and i want them all back! Oh never mind i'd only waste them...but ill take the 15 minutes from vanguard back Right NOW!
I have three WoW Accounts and played since release. I cancelled all of my account's which I left behind years of raiding work. That is all I got to say.
After playing conan then looking at wow again it blows in comparison. WoW seems like it is for candy ass faggots now that I see both side by side.
I love AoC it feels like DAoC, UO, and SWG all in one it is just simply amazing.
Zorndorf, all your points have already been countered. Some of your points are even blatent bullshit, such as the "no auction" house thing. Yeah, there are loading zones(highest I've waited is 10 seconds, and my computer is mid-range, maybe you're playing an old comp?), but that's a tradeoff for getting far better combat mechanics.
You don't like AoC, and that is fine by me. As long as when you post about it, you post some valid reasons. Rather than spewing crap, some if it downright not true(auctionhouse to name one, loading time, you can skip cutscenes, and so on), come up with something you can actually believe, like you just don't think the combat system is worth the loss of immersion due to loading zones or whatever.
I multibox, check out my profile sometime.
haha just watch this youtube video!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IALNsmIilFg
enough said.
I stand to be corrected, but I don't think I'm wrong in stating that.
My access code is 49EXNFCRWK with 6 more figures (just to avoid stealin) It was send to me on wednesday 14th of May by gameMania belgium and I downloaded the game to begin play on Sun 18th
It was because I ordered the CE edition.
The server = european early access.
Since the offical launch for Euope will be on May 23, I'll send you a copy of my CE box
So instead of attacking me in person you should all have a look at Age of Loading..
And if you give me your personal mail I'll forward the above information in your mailbox.
I am no liar.
Which despite the above statement, you still havn't confirmed as a yes or a no as to whether you are actually ingame. Anyone can state eurpean early access. You continue to quote hand over fist things about this game that are just not in line with the way it is in the retail client. The humungeous loading times being one off the top of my head.
You might gain some favourable replies to what you are claiming in some of your posts, but as long as you continue to dis this game the way you are and in the way you do, then why should people give you anything but the contempt that you really do deserve.
If this game really grates your arse as much as your posts suggest, then why are you here posting all this crap? Just let it go - you're not going to sway anyone going about things like you are.
Why would i want your ce box ? if you're in euro early access, then how about talking about things that you do like. Everything you state is negative. I've yet to see one thing you've said that praises this game.
Go find something in the early access you do like, and take a screenshot of it - come back and tell us all about it. There's a good chap
I don't mind people knocking something , fair play - but if you're going to do it , then be factual in your criticism
enough said.
Oh I see it sounds heavier if you say 3 instead of one.
See you in WotLK.
Maybe he's actually telling the truth. Maybe take a leaf out of his book and come back.