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Blizzard does massive sweep of Botters.

MrVicchioMrVicchio Member Posts: 598

Apparently there was a huge ban wave overnight. The Glider forums are inaccessible. There isn’t much news yet but so far it seems like

If you used glider in the past few months, you’re banned.

If you used OpenBot after 2.4.3, you’re banned.

For anyone interested, Age of Conan was released this very day. Good move on Blizzards part? I think they may just have lost a LOT of subscribers.

I’ll keep updating this throughout the day!

http://www.envy-gaming.com/2008/05/20/tuesday-may-20-2008-perhaps-the-biggest-blow-to-the-wow-botting-community-ever/

It appears Blizzard took out the trash...

 

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  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138
    Originally posted by MrVicchio


    Apparently there was a huge ban wave overnight. The Glider forums are inaccessible. There isn’t much news yet but so far it seems like
    If you used glider in the past few months, you’re banned.

    If you used OpenBot after 2.4.3, you’re banned.

    For anyone interested, Age of Conan was released this very day. Good move on Blizzards part? I think they may just have lost a LOT of subscribers.
    I’ll keep updating this throughout the day!
    http://www.envy-gaming.com/2008/05/20/tuesday-may-20-2008-perhaps-the-biggest-blow-to-the-wow-botting-community-ever/
    It appears Blizzard took out the trash...
     

    It wasn't just these 2 programs, there were more involved, but Blizzard is being tight lipped about it because they don't want the develops to know who is being targetted.

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  • WikkedbowtieWikkedbowtie Member Posts: 494

    And we should be concerned that they banned people who are to lazy to actually play the game because why?

  • WashoWasho Member Posts: 34

    They can become AoC's problem now. Customer who violate rules are not the sort of customers a company wants. The amount of money Blizzard spends on tracking down and banning botters is worth more than the measly $15 they pay a month.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Originally posted by MrVicchio


    Apparently there was a huge ban wave overnight. The Glider forums are inaccessible. There isn’t much news yet but so far it seems like
    If you used glider in the past few months, you’re banned.

    If you used OpenBot after 2.4.3, you’re banned.

    For anyone interested, Age of Conan was released this very day. Good move on Blizzards part? I think they may just have lost a LOT of subscribers.
    I’ll keep updating this throughout the day!
    http://www.envy-gaming.com/2008/05/20/tuesday-may-20-2008-perhaps-the-biggest-blow-to-the-wow-botting-community-ever/
    It appears Blizzard took out the trash...
     
    I think the concept of Banning someone is the company telling them that they are not welcome to play the game anymore.  I doubt there will be a large uprising of support for cheaters getting banned, though I do expect tons of "QQ it was my brothers roommates girlfriend who did it while I was in the bathroom."

     

     

  • jblahjblah Member UncommonPosts: 368

    well if you actually think about it the best way to ruin a games longevity would be to send the worst type of players from your game to theirs so why not do it. i think it was a brilliant idea on blizzards part. people may think that blizz will lose alot of money but instead of just releasing some WOTLK  hype on AOC's release day they just pissed all over Funcom's game by sending the worst  players over there.

    guess this means AOC wil have the same community as wow maybe?

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  • khartman2005khartman2005 Member Posts: 477
    Originally posted by jblah


    well if you actually think about it the best way to ruin a games longevity would be to send the worst type of players from your game to theirs so why not do it. i think it was a brilliant idea on blizzards part. people may think that blizz will lose alot of money but instead of just releasing some WOTLK  hype on AOC's release day they just pissed all over Funcom's game by sending the worst  players over there.
    guess this means AOC wil have the same community as wow maybe?

    Ummm nope try again.. AoC doesn't have auto attacks and your have to literally be at your computer or you die. The botters will not come to AoC for that reason alone.

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  • WhiteknightIWhiteknightI Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie


    And we should be concerned that they banned people who are to lazy to actually play the game because why?

    4 years, 4 battlegrounds.  If you weren't afking/botting AV for your 900th time I truly feel sorry for you.

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287

    Originally posted by khartman2005

    Originally posted by jblah


    well if you actually think about it the best way to ruin a games longevity would be to send the worst type of players from your game to theirs so why not do it. i think it was a brilliant idea on blizzards part. people may think that blizz will lose alot of money but instead of just releasing some WOTLK  hype on AOC's release day they just pissed all over Funcom's game by sending the worst  players over there.
    guess this means AOC wil have the same community as wow maybe?

    Ummm nope try again.. AoC doesn't have auto attacks and your have to literally be at your computer or you die. The botters will not come to AoC for that reason alone.

      Methinks you give the bot creators to little credit.  Dumb people these are not.  You will have your own fair share of botting, it will just take a little longer to program as it will need many more trigger responses without auto-attack.  Make no mistake, though...the people who made glider did one HELL of a job.  They are plenty capable to make a bot for your game too.

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  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by WhiteknightI

    Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie


    And we should be concerned that they banned people who are to lazy to actually play the game because why?

    4 years, 4 battlegrounds.  If you weren't afking/botting AV for your 900th time I truly feel sorry for you.

    I feel more sorry for those who pay to play and then have the computer play for them.

     

    Ok, who am I kidding.  Why would I feel sorry for someone who just got banned for botting?  Go Blizzard!

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  • iZakaroNiZakaroN Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by Washo


    The amount of money Blizzard spends on tracking down and banning botters is worth more than the measly $15 they pay a month.

    LOL. I have so much friends that get up many alts using bots and know no one banned. Botters are one of the many reason I leave WoW. Blizzard do not care about botters, gold sellers about anyting except get more and more money. WoW is just money making machine - nothing else!!!



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  • Soldier420Soldier420 Member Posts: 177

     

    Originally posted by iZakaroN

    Originally posted by Washo


    The amount of money Blizzard spends on tracking down and banning botters is worth more than the measly $15 they pay a month.

    LOL. I have so much friends that get up many alts using bots and know no one banned. Botters are one of the many reason I leave WoW. Blizzard do not care about botters, gold sellers about anyting except get more and more money. WoW is just money making machine - nothing else!!!

     

    Vivendi is the one pulling the strings. Vivendi loss 26% sales this year (I think), so they turned WoW into a cashcow since it brings in the most bacon. I don't have a problem with them wanting more money, but at the cost were it makes the game severely less fun is BS.

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  • FraxtureFraxture Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Originally posted by khartman2005

    Originally posted by jblah


    well if you actually think about it the best way to ruin a games longevity would be to send the worst type of players from your game to theirs so why not do it. i think it was a brilliant idea on blizzards part. people may think that blizz will lose alot of money but instead of just releasing some WOTLK  hype on AOC's release day they just pissed all over Funcom's game by sending the worst  players over there.
    guess this means AOC wil have the same community as wow maybe?

    Ummm nope try again.. AoC doesn't have auto attacks and your have to literally be at your computer or you die. The botters will not come to AoC for that reason alone.



    The AoC system is no different than a console fighting game. You just start mashing buttons, and your still guaranteed success depending on your level and experince, not how you swing. A buddy and I when in closed beta jsut started mashing the buttons, and was still winning battles that were on equal ground. Nothing new there...

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,086

    Originally posted by Fraxture





    The AoC system is no different than a console fighting game. You just start mashing buttons, and your still guaranteed success depending on your level and experince, not how you swing. A buddy and I when in closed beta jsut started mashing the buttons, and was still winning battles that were on equal ground. Nothing new there...

    I dunno, last night my son and I (level 13 Tempest/Bear Shaman) came across a pair of level 12 players (Assassin and maybe a crusader) and I'll have to say because its only our second day we pretty much were just mashing attack buttons and those other two folks totally owned us. 

    Yeah, we killed em one or two times each, but they killed us about 6.... and we ended up fleeing for our lives...(respawning with low health/mana right where you died really adds a challenge, let me tell you).

    Point being, I think we would have fared better had we more used all of our skills (I have a snare and sleep spell atm, along with 2 heals) and I don't think a bot can manage it, especially against other players.

    So maybe on the PVE servers bots will thrive, but on the PVP servers, not a chance....

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  • RecantRecant Member UncommonPosts: 1,586

    The timing is uncanny, ban all of the people you don't want the moment a new MMORPG is launched.  Intentional or not, I think poor old Mr Conan is going to have to stop ogling pixelated breasts and start fighting robots instead of slave masters :(

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  • RecantRecant Member UncommonPosts: 1,586

    Originally posted by WhiteknightI

    Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie


    And we should be concerned that they banned people who are to lazy to actually play the game because why?

    4 years, 4 battlegrounds.  If you weren't afking/botting AV for your 900th time I truly feel sorry for you.

    And people that have been playing the same singeplayer games for years, do you feel sorry for them as well? 

    I've lost count of the number of times I've played the X-Com games, over and over again.

    Cheating is synonymous with lose.

    I laugh in the face of the people that were banned, have fun in Age of Loading!

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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie


    And we should be concerned that they banned people who are to lazy to actually play the game because why?

    Amen.

    So the OP is worried that these botters are going to go to AoC instead? I think Blizz is probably more concerned with trying to keep the integrity of their game in tact. Botters and gold farmers are a never ending problem in these types of games (I know, when I played my 70 sham was hacked. You never think it'll happen to you...you know?). I give them credit for at least trying to fight the good fight.

    Even if WoW loses 500k subs do to this, they're down to what....7 mil? Oh no!

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  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138
    Originally posted by khartman2005

    Originally posted by jblah


    well if you actually think about it the best way to ruin a games longevity would be to send the worst type of players from your game to theirs so why not do it. i think it was a brilliant idea on blizzards part. people may think that blizz will lose alot of money but instead of just releasing some WOTLK  hype on AOC's release day they just pissed all over Funcom's game by sending the worst  players over there.
    guess this means AOC wil have the same community as wow maybe?

    Ummm nope try again.. AoC doesn't have auto attacks and your have to literally be at your computer or you die. The botters will not come to AoC for that reason alone.



    This is pretty naive.  They have bots now that it's tough to tell the difference between a real player and the bot.  There's almost nothing that can't be done with today's technology.  If you think auto attacks are needed, you're mistaken.  I believe that AoC has already taken steps against botters if I'm not mistaken.

    By the way, the timing has nothing to do with Conan, it has to do with the changes that Blizzard made and when they made them.  The developers of the Botting software had developed a way of getting around  Warden (the program that Blizzard runs to detect botting software) and it also detected whenever Warden was modified and wouldn't run until they figured out how to get around it again.  But Blizzard threw them a curveball with release 2.4.2.  Instead of changing Warden to detect the bot software, they made the change to the client itself.  Once 2.4.2 went live everyone who was using a bot was able to be detected again because the botting software was looking for changes to Warden, but there were no changes to Warden.  Now the software developers of the Botting software will adapt again, but Blizzard won this round.

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  • TrowarTrowar Member Posts: 147

     

    Originally posted by Pappy13




    This is pretty naive.  They have bots now that it's tough to tell the difference between a real player and the bot.  There's almost nothing that can't be done with today's technology.  If you think auto attacks are needed, you're mistaken.  I believe that AoC has already taken steps against botters if I'm not mistaken.

     

    The usual goldfarmers might be hard to get rid off in any game since many of them are watched over by actual underpayed humans but..

    ..it isn´t difficult to spot the most annoying bots there is in WoW, those lvl 1 Warriors with totally random names that uses tradechannel / say and yells their message in Orgrimmar. 

    They always stays on the same spot once have got into the city so they are not played by any human at all.

    They can´t do that in AoC, as they need to finish several quests to even get into the first city. When there was only some geniune goldfarmers back in the first year of WoW it was actually pretty ok. The 2  we know on Horde side back then actually helped to fill the auction house a bit and they hardly spoke out any goldselling message.

    But this latest invasion is the worst one ever, they even whisper players in game. Using tradechannel for trading is nearly hopeless.

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138

    Originally posted by Trowar


    They can´t do that in AoC, as they need to finish several quests to even get into the first city. When there was only some geniune goldfarmers back in the first year of WoW it was actually pretty ok. The 2  we know on Horde side back then actually helped to fill the auction house a bit and they hardly spoke out any goldselling message.
    But this latest invasion is the worst one ever, they even whisper players in game. Using tradechannel for trading is nearly hopeless.
    I'm sure that the spammers will figure out a way to get a new character into the city with relative ease.  I believe that part is played offline if I'm not mistaken and if that's the case, it probably shouldn't be that hard to figure out how to manipulate the files.  These guys are smart and have the resources.  Even if they can't figure out a way to skip that opening part, they can still easily create a bot to do the steps necessary to get to that spot.  If you think Conan will prevent the spammers, sadly you are mistaken.

    But to be honest, the spammers are not a problem for me at all.  Everytime I see one, I simply report them as spammers.  When you do that they are immediately put on your ignore list for that session, so you'll never see more than 1 message from them.  I don't usually have to do this more than maybe once per session and it takes me all of about 2 seconds to solve the problem.  It doesn't affect me using the trade channel in the least.

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

        Whoever thinks bots only use auto-attack is naive. Bots use all attacks, they can monitor health, mana of your character and your target. I dont see any major problems for botters to migrate to AoC - they can detect trivial thing like shields to use proper attacks.

    AoC will be no different then WoW - it will have its own share of botters and farmers.

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  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493
    Originally posted by Washo


    They can become AoC's problem now. Customer who violate rules are not the sort of customers a company wants. The amount of money Blizzard spends on tracking down and banning botters is worth more than the measly $15 they pay a month.



    That's what I was thinking!  I say goodbye to them and hope they don't come to any game I am involved with.

  • JosherJosher Member Posts: 2,818

    Originally posted by wjrasmussen

    Originally posted by Washo


    They can become AoC's problem now. Customer who violate rules are not the sort of customers a company wants. The amount of money Blizzard spends on tracking down and banning botters is worth more than the measly $15 they pay a month.



    That's what I was thinking!  I say goodbye to them and hope they don't come to any game I am involved with.

    GOes to show how much they care, if they're losing money by banning all the botters.  They care more about the principle of people cheating in their game rather than the $$$.

  • AminiaAminia Member Posts: 3

    Pfft like that other guy said befor 4 years 4 battlegrounds its pathetic yeah might be good for someone who has played the game for 6 months but when u have 3 lvl 70's all with + 2000 arena teams and in a guild on Eredar Twins content is kind of lacking so yeah i will use a AFK bot in bgs for badges and honor cause ireally cant be bothered having to dead with scrubs

  • MrVicchioMrVicchio Member Posts: 598

    Originally posted by Aminia


    Pfft like that other guy said befor 4 years 4 battlegrounds its pathetic yeah might be good for someone who has played the game for 6 months but when u have 3 lvl 70's all with + 2000 arena teams and in a guild on Eredar Twins content is kind of lacking so yeah i will use a AFK bot in bgs for badges and honor cause ireally cant be bothered having to dead with scrubs
    I hope all botters get banned.

     

    Nothings worse then going into a BG to play and enjoy the experience only to be miserable cause half your team are too busy to be bothered.  People like you make WoW Suck.

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  • That is amazing. 1 if those bots has been around for 3  years. Kind of surprising they just got around to dealing with it.

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