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8600 vs 8800 vid card

kmsgoaliekmsgoalie Member Posts: 24
in Age of Conan: Unchained

ok well i just ordered a 512mb 8600 ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290

i just wanted to know if this was a bad decision or not, since everyone seems to be talking about getting one of the 8800 series cards for good performance for a low price. any help is appreciated.

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  • mentalynutsmentalynuts Member Posts: 80

    yes the 8800 tend to be better cards but dont underestimate 8600 i have 8600gts and i can run crysis on high settings with good fps graphics cards do play a part in performance but a lot of most current games are more prosesser or ram dependant.You should be fine with the card you linked but rearly all comes down to what you can affored.

  • AntizAntiz Member Posts: 9

    8800 pisses all over the 8600 sorry to say..

    well depends if its GT GTS or GTX etc etc but, 8800GTS+ will generally rape the 8600 series

  • LethalBurstLethalBurst Member UncommonPosts: 367

    The 8800GT is much faster that the 8600, for not much more money. I would cancel the 8600 order, and get an 8800. You won't be disappointed.

  • BlackndBlacknd Member Posts: 600

    Originally posted by LethalBurst


    The 8800GT is much faster that the 8600, for not much more money. I would cancel the 8600 order, and get an 8800. You won't be disappointed.

    I've heard the same. That even the 7950 is faster than the 8600, and the 8800 is faster than both. I personally have a 8800 in my laptop.

    .. But in a good way.

  • AsiakAsiak Member Posts: 118

    Originally posted by mentalynuts


    yes the 8800 tend to be better cards but dont underestimate 8600 i have 8600gts and i can run crysis on high settings with good fps graphics cards do play a part in performance but a lot of most current games are more prosesser or ram dependant.You should be fine with the card you linked but rearly all comes down to what you can affored.

    Out of curiosity what is your processor and how much RAM do you have?

    "What is it that the gamers want from these games and why is it not given to them? We were playing these games ourselves, that's why we know it was not being done. So we moved in the opposite direction. We thought about what the users wanted, what we wanted, and why it wasn't happening and how it could happen." - Tasos Flambouras

  • VagelispVagelisp Member UncommonPosts: 448

    http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce8.html

    Please note the diff in memory bandwidth and Texture fill rate. a geforce 8800 is about 50 percent faster than any 8600 equivalent if you get a half giga 8600.

    Specifications | Performance

      Core Clock (MHz) Shader Clock (MHz) Memory Clock (MHz) Memory Amount Memory Interface Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
    GeForce

    8800 Ultra    		 612 1500 1080 768MB 384-bit 103.7 39.2
    GeForce

    8800 GTX    		 575 1350 900 768MB 384-bit 86.4 36.8
    GeForce

    8800 GTS    		 500 1200 800 640MB or

    320MB    		 320-bit 64 24
    GeForce

    8800 GTS 512MB3    		 650 1625 970 512MB 256-bit 64 41.6
    GeForce

    8800 GT    		 600 1500 900 512MB 256-bit 57.6 33.6
    GeForce

    8800 GS    		 550 1375 800 384MB 192-bit 38.4 26.4
    GeForce

    8600 GTS    		 675 1450 1000 256MB 128-bit 32 10.8
    GeForce

    8600 GT    		 540 1190 700 256MB 128-bit 22.4 8.64
    GeForce

    8500 GT    		 450 900 400 256MB 128-bit 12.8 3.6
    GeForce

    8400 GS    		 450 900 400 256MB 64-bit 6.4 3.6
  • TsukieUTsukieU Member Posts: 559

    Don't let them get you down, I have a OC'd 8600GTS 512, and I can run it just fine with high settings.  The difference between an OC 8600GTS and a standard 8800GT are minimal.  Not to mention if you grab a BFG 8600GTS OC, you have a lifetime warranty on it.

     

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  • kmsgoaliekmsgoalie Member Posts: 24

    Well my pc is old...which is why im upgrading it in steps.

    pentium D 2.8ghz (x2)

    2gig ram

    and by 2moro 512mb geforce 8600gt

     

    and on that list of vid cards there was no 512mb 8600gt? im pretty noob with tech stuff so i dont really know how much that memory helps.

  • GoobGoob Member Posts: 398

    Wherever you are in the world, the 8800GT is so cheap yet so good. Trust me. Best bang for the buck HANDS DOWN.

    Don't pay more than 200 for one.

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    I have the 8600 GT card. Its crap. It performs no better than my old 6600 card. Get the 8800 GT card if its not too late. They are completely awesome, and very cheap.

  • mentalynutsmentalynuts Member Posts: 80
    Originally posted by Asiak


     
    Originally posted by mentalynuts


    yes the 8800 tend to be better cards but dont underestimate 8600 i have 8600gts and i can run crysis on high settings with good fps graphics cards do play a part in performance but a lot of most current games are more prosesser or ram dependant.You should be fine with the card you linked but rearly all comes down to what you can affored.

     

    Out of curiosity what is your processor and how much RAM do you have?

     I have 3gb ram

    amd athlon 64x duelcore 6000+ prosesser

    Iv never had any trouble running latest games on it.I built my pc on very tight budget and happy with it

    I have never overclocked my pc as never had the need to if i feel i ever need to overclock i know its time for upgrade my pc runs on custom made xp useing nlite so i dont have all crap that comes with xp.I wont upgrade to vista as its to buggy for my liking and tends to use more resorces than actualy needed

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    hope you have lots of money if you overclock your graphics card, because you will be buying a new one in less than a year after you fry the old one. 

    Not saying it can't be done, but you sure better have direct cooling on that graphics card, which pretty much none of you overclocker have.

    The 8600 is not such a bad card, especially since you have 512 on it. 

  • eosyneeosyne Member UncommonPosts: 392

    fyi to everybody.

    the first number in the graphics card model is not the determining factor of performance.

    in 8800 or 8600 the first '8' is how many features the card has. but the 600 or 800 is how well it performs.

    thus, a 7950 would perform better than an 8600.

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  • TsukieUTsukieU Member Posts: 559

    Yeah I'd agree not getting the 8600 GT, I would however suggest getting the 8600GTS OC version, in some areas it's better than the 8800GT, and in most other areas it's identical.  Not to mention it's cheaper, and comes with a lifetime warranty.

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  • TsukieUTsukieU Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by jackeccs


    fyi to everybody.
    the first number in the graphics card model is not the determining factor of performance.
    in 8800 or 8600 the first '8' is how many features the card has. but the 600 or 800 is how well it performs.
    thus, a 7950 would perform better than an 8600.

    Yeah but those designations are very rarely accurate.  A 7950 should theoretically be better than a 8800, but the 8800 blows it out of the water.  Heck even the 7900 preforms better than it.

    Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.

  • gannonreidgannonreid Member Posts: 172

    I don't know about the 8600, but I have an 8800GTS (evga - ssc version). And I love it, ran Crysis on high with no problems, and have been running Age of Conan fine with anti-aliasing.

  • kmsgoaliekmsgoalie Member Posts: 24

    ok well thanks to everyone for the info. seeing that its too late to cancel my order, ill just hafta see how it runs tomorrow.

  • draven2draven2 Member Posts: 5

    If I were going to purchase the GeForce 9800, would I see a NOTICEABLE difference in performance over the 8800?

  • lonhelyglonhelyg Member Posts: 73

    Originally posted by kmsgoalie


    ok well i just ordered a 512mb 8600 ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290
    i just wanted to know if this was a bad decision or not, since everyone seems to be talking about getting one of the 8800 series cards for good performance for a low price. any help is appreciated.
    I bought and 8600 GT ( and stupidly listened to the shop assistant trying to sell me it ) and had to change it the next day , I had upgradre to the 8600 from a 7600 GT and there was hardly any difference.

    I'm so glad I managed to change it tp an 8800 GT Sonic the next day , now I'm getting a constant 60 fps in Conan ! Wooot.

    Try and cancel the order and pay the litttle extra for an 8800 trust me you wont regret it !

    Ps dont be fooled into getting a cheap 9600 either same problem I've been told .

  • FFandDBFFandDB Member Posts: 57

    8800 ....for sure

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  • VagelispVagelisp Member UncommonPosts: 448

    Originally posted by draven2


    If I were going to purchase the GeForce 9800, would I see a NOTICEABLE difference in performance over the 8800?
    Specifications | Performance
      Core Clock (MHz) Shader Clock (MHz) Memory Clock (MHz) Memory Amount Memory Interface Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
    9800 GX2 600 1500 1000 1 GB 512-bit 128 76.8
    9800 GTX 675 1688 1100 512MB GDDR3 256-bit 70.4 43.2
    9600 GT 650 1625 900 512MB 256-bit 57.6 20.8
    9600 GSO 550 1375 800 384MB 192-bit 38.4 26.4

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce9.html

    Specifications | Performance

      Core Clock (MHz) Shader Clock (MHz) Memory Clock (MHz) Memory Amount Memory Interface Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
    GeForce

    8800 Ultra    		 612 1500 1080 768MB 384-bit 103.7 39.2
    GeForce

    8800 GTX    		 575 1350 900 768MB 384-bit 86.4 36.8
    GeForce

    8800 GTS    		 500 1200 800 640MB or

    320MB    		 320-bit 64 24
    GeForce

    8800 GTS 512MB3    		 650 1625 970 512MB 256-bit 64 41.6
    GeForce

    8800 GT    		 600 1500 900 512MB 256-bit 57.6 33.6
    GeForce

    8800 GS    		 550 1375 800 384MB 192-bit 38.4 26.4
    GeForce

    8600 GTS    		 675 1450 1000 256MB 128-bit 32 10.8
    GeForce

    8600 GT    		 540 1190 700 256MB 128-bit 22.4 8.64
    GeForce

    8500 GT    		 450 900 400 256MB 128-bit 12.8 3.6
    GeForce

    8400 GS    		 450 900 400 256MB 64-bit 6.4 3.6

    Compare and decide for your self ...

  • kmsgoaliekmsgoalie Member Posts: 24

    Would running 2x 8600gt be as good as an 8800gt?

  • kiIIswitchkiIIswitch Member Posts: 12

    I have 2 x 8600 GT and to get it playable (constant 60 fps) I have settings to medium, with no shadows.  It still stutters and I have extreme FPS drops in crowded areas, etc...

    The rest of my machine is no slouch either, brand new, C2D e6850 3.0 mhz, 4gb ram, 64 bit.

    The 8600 pretty much sucks as far as im concerned, and I look forward to the day I am rid of them.

  • rontaviusrontavius Member Posts: 5

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/3dmark06-v1-0-2-hdr-sm3-0-score,538.html

    Be sure to mess around with the resolution, AA, AF, and other benchmark settings. Also don't forget to add the products you want to compare!

  • AznmaskAznmask Member Posts: 178

    8600GT VS 8800GT = 8800GT beat 8600GT in 3 times more power.. 8600GT only have 32 Stream processor 8800GT have 112 Stream processors. That really matter

    8600Gt is for games that make from yesterday, or some for today but with low setting. While 8800Gt can play all yesterday game and today's game with Medium to High setting..even future game like 1-2yr of course with low - medium setting)

    I bought a 8600GT 256mb for $50(after rebate i got my $30rebate) czu the price is cheap and i only play CS:S.

    Anyway i ordered a 8800GT on last night..

     

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