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PVP not PGP...STOP spawn camping.
ThirdShield
Member Posts: 2
Ganking in this game is out of hand. It's sad how many people think it's okay to disrespect other human beings because they sit on the other side of a computer screen. There are a few points which must be pounded into the heads of "spawn campers" who apparently lack a life (i.e. go work out, get some sun instead of sitting at a spawn site pushing a single button to kill players.)
Issues:
1. PVP = Player VERSUS Player. The word "versus" implies a fight, struggle, or battle. "ganking" is NOT pvp, it is the act of a pathetic person who cares nothing for the fact that (even though a video game), they are offending another human being in real life. Scum.
2. Ganking is bad enough, but spawn camping is ridiculous. This is NOT part of the intended game. They are fixing this issue as we speak. This is merely a request that you stop being a douchebag in advance until the fix comes and FORCES you too. Sad you have to be asked though.
3. No, I am not a "carebear" and I do not wish to join a "PVE" server. What I'm looking for is "fights" between players...Not a screen-spamming of the "ressurect" button. If a one sided fight is what you enjoy so much, why don't you go outside and kick your dog around some more?
4. For players who agree with me, look how pathetic some humans are. If there weren't any "laws" in real life, they'd probably run around and be douches in that world too. Sad how some people don't have any "honor" eh?
That is all. Gracious' for the read.
Comments
haha yeah, its sad when i'm in the middle of a fight as a demonologist, then 2 assassins twice my level both attack me at the same time.
I am new to PvP. I did not know this was part of the deal. I have 8 kills and 2 deaths in 1 on 1 battles. However I have an additional 25 deaths when I am at a rez point or engaged with a enemy npc. If there are no rules, so be it. But dern, cant they let me get at least to 75% health at least?
From what I understand you get PVP experience, right? Not sure how it works out, but this to me would be promotiing ganking like crazy because to level in PVP you have to kill players. I am holding out for now, but hope this issue is settled because I remember how it was in WoW with the corpse and GY camping on PvP servers.
LOL this reminds me of pre-cu swg jedi stones, man idk how many times i would spawn at that thing and someone would be camping there.
playing eq2 and two worlds
Man, I can understand your pain, but pucker up and stop having such a cry.
PVP is about ALL Player vs Player combat.
With every MMO comes idiots, and they do things like this... not everyone player is merciful.
The other thing is, stop relating real life and gaming, they're 2 completely different things.
I personally don't care who you are, or what you're feeling, cause I don't know you.
Games are games, real life is real life. If you are relating the 2, you've got some serious issues.
Deal with the guys until they fix it up.
Understand that this is more the game developers fault than the players.
If you leave a game open for something like this, it's always going to happen.
The way I look at it, if Funcom did not realise, after a truckload of MMO's have had the EXACT same issue, that they should put something in to stop it, then it's no-one's fault but their own. You should be blaming them, not the player taking advantage of a game-flaw.
For the record i've never, nor will I ever spawn camp, because I find it lame.
Lol, I remember that... I miss the old SWG. I agree the spawn camping in this game is horrible. Worse, by far, than WoW was. I hope this gets fixed soon... They have an OK game, needs a few major things fixed. I might try comming back to game in 6 months or so to see how they do.
I was so pissed when this first happened to me. KNOWING i chose a PvP server i never made a peep about the situation. What i did was wait until i dinged 20 came back to white sands and have spent the past two days ganking every single player who was not of that areas level range I witnessed sitting in stealth engaging in PvP. Now I have to tell you I play with 3 RLF's we all have other characters above 40 but made assassins for the sole purpose of eliminating characters who IE: attack people already in combat, attack people lower level then them, or camp spawn points. Needless to say I found all these "gankers" I dealt with when I was level 5-16 LEFT immediately after someone there level killed them. It's pretty sad they will farm people they can one shot but when it becomes a challenge for them they log off. SAD
either way, If you play on Shadowblade ( my new server since my other characters are all on max population servers for the times i play ) you can send primal a tell and I will camp any of these jokers camping people half there level.
would be nice if fights atleast started out fair. or if when your killed by a higher level you turn into a powerful spirit that can seek revenge!
about all you can do is what lysrgk1 has done. Until there is some type of safe haven or border laws implemented that is really all you can do. Get your 20 then come back and gank the gankers, it will get old and they will eventually move on, and if they come back rinse and repeat. I remember in shadowbane I would get super ganked and I would log my alt and gank the ganker once and clear the area.
Wow just wow... you said everything that I've been thinking so thanks for saving me from having to, lol. Seriouly though I actually enjoy the game itself but you are dead on, the community is worse than any game I've ever been apart of and that includes ftp's.
The irony for me comes when one of the quote "real pvpers" post to defend the actions of the cowards that will slowly drive away the population of yet another pvp server.
Well, this is expected from an open PvP game. Seriously, what else is there to expect? With no death penalty, etc, open PvP becomes a cess pool of idiots and becomes more of a challenge to overcome it.
It's not like I am "crying" about it. I deal with it and enjoy the game. I am just sickened by some players and pointing out my disappointment with them.
For instance:
"Games are games, real life is real life. If you are relating the 2, you've got some serious issues."
This WOULD have been perfectly true in the 90's...not anymore guy. Welcome to the new age. Ever since "online gaming", real life and video games DO relate. You are not playing with bots, npcs, or computers, you're playing with other PEOPLE, and people are real bud.
Again, this isn't a complaint as much as it is a "wow, how pathetic some people are" post. It MIGHT be Funcom's fault for their system, but maybe they thought :
"our game is for mature players...we can trust them to behave".
An incorrect thought? Yeah. But even so, the whole point is it's SAD that it's incorrect. It should be the way things are, but some people are douches. That''s all I'm saying. Hard to debate the fact : )
I don't have this game but am looking forward to it when i do buy it just for this reason of FFA PVP with no consequences. I have never played a mmo like this SWG,WOW,COV don't have pvp rule sets like this.
WIth this game 5yrs in the making what else does FFA PVP mean. Most people should of none this would be like this hence why they create PVE servers to still enjoy the game without being griefed/camped.
Also for the people killing and spawn camping. What about grouping with other people or getting your guildies to help. Most of these people doing this are probably horrible at PVP and only seem to win this way.
Seems there are ways around this.
There is rules that wont allow spawn-camping and some other exploits in pvp server.
http://support.ageofconan.com/article.php?id=107
Wow just wow... you said everything that I've been thinking so thanks for saving me from having to, lol. Seriouly though I actually enjoy the game itself but you are dead on, the community is worse than any game I've ever been apart of and that includes ftp's.
The irony for me comes when one of the quote "real pvpers" post to defend the actions of the cowards that will slowly drive away the population of yet another pvp server.
I understand the whole spawn camping dilemma, specially when they think it's real PVP. I've been in so many fights, verbal and physical with guilds who think it is alright to spawn camp. The end result will always be the same, they think FFA PVP means spawns camping is alright.
Your best bet is to just not let people get to you, specially over a game. whats the point of getting pissed about something like that or even thinking it's anything but mildly amusing? there is no downside to being spawn camped, even your buffs remain up. Not only that but you can get away so easy using hide until they fix it for PVP.
I do agree on the community somewhat, But I know and have seen more mature players then immature ones.
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Very true, at the moment there is no real penalty for dying in pvp, which makes things difficult. In the near future there will be more bonuses and risks with FFA PVP so just hold out!
You are not alone!
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Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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