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EQ community is unfriendly
I reactivated my EQ account not too long ago to try it out for one month.
The servers are seriously empty and I was expecting that. What I didn't expect was how much the community changed.
Every guild site I tried to look up was riddled with profanity and childish links and comments. Every forum I asked help in was rude to me except the graffe wizard forum.
In game, only few of the people I had a chance to talk to seemed nice, the majority are very rude. To the point of upsetting me.
It's not what I expected. I guess this is sort of a warning for anyone trying it out again, some memories are best untouched.
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What server were you on? Been a couple months since I've played, but I have'nt experienced that on The Rathe.
On maelin and dro with my bard. I haven't played in a while, I stopped about a year ago. I think I will let it expire again.
It seems so different to me than what I remember.
I'll warn you the forums in EQ are completely dominated by elitest assholes that would just as soon not deal with new people at all.
Fortunantly, there are plenty of people in game that do not share this attitude. My Personal recomendation would be the Legends & Legacies guild on Stromm. Well over a thousand members, all levels and classes accepted. We have a few retired raiders but most are no where near the level cap and newcomers are welcomed.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
The last time I was on, I've been helped out several times by high level characters without having to ask. Everyone I've met happy to help with buffs often time refusing donations, always willing to answer questions, or take you where you wanna go.
All I"m saying is, for people wanting to try it for the first time , or first time in a long time, don't let a few bad stinky worms spoil it all because the majority of people are nice.
The EQ community is definitely unfriendly.
BEWARE of "progression" or "classic" guilds; these people tend to be the worst. You would think that they would be the most friendly, but they are the least friendly people I have ever met in Everquest.
I have many active Everquest accounts, which I am seriously considering cancelling - community, believe it or not, is the largest factor why.
Most of the EQ community is in WOW. Has been for years.
While I fondly remember EQ's glory days, I realize they are no more. Not that the design is outdated, but that the paricular world has been mostly explored.
What we need is a new-style MMO with early EQ's design approach and player freedom, WOW's polish, and AOC's graphics. (And ditch the quest grind of these newer MMO's).
Would make for an awesome MMO indeed.
Bristlebane has a been a surprisingly friendly (and populated) server for me. Xegony seems to be on some sort of upswing-- people seem less harsh than I remember and I've found that there are some all class/all level guilds that are friendly and without a lot of nonsense.
I am in Council of Truth on Bristlebane, and they are small but nice.
I have a character in Orphans of Rage on Xegony, and they are also small but nice. They are allied with Norrath's Time Servants, and I've grouped with some of them and found them ok. They seem to stick together. My husband is in Champions of Norrath and recommends it highly. (He's trying to recruit me.)
I'm the gl of A Feudal Gesture. I am actually the only active member at this time, but hey, if guilds suck so bad, you could always come help build something positive. I'll be happy to invite ya.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
Once SOE took creative control and shifted focus and resources to developing a pure Raiding game to the detriment of grouping and soloing, they alienated most players, shrunk the playerbase, and retained mostly raiders who are elitist, isolationist pricks.
I don't know what game you people are playing, but in all my years of playing EQ, I've never once experienced a community like that.
As a matter a fact, EQ has had one of the best communities I've ever experienced.
I think this is a case of having bad luck and only running into the bad seeds of the server. It's just ridiculous to classify the whole community as bad just because of a few bad experiences.
The socalled "progression" guilds, especially those on Combine, represent the worst elements of the EQ community when it comes to arrogance, fighting and attacking individual players in general chat, and having an understanding of what "classic" truly is.
I think it unfair to judge a community from one server. What is commen place and everwhere in one server may not be on a differnt server.
I have had to change serveres on a few games becuase of this. There have even been a game where i stoped playing becuase of this. came back and played on a differnt server and had a blast.
Conservatism.
Just old white men trying to find ways to legalize discrimination, and make the poor poorer
Been playing on the EU server, Antonius Bayle for a few nights in a row now, helpful and friendly people all over, haven't had any bad experiences yet. I'm quite the newbie after all these years but theyve been more than patient with me
Leetle (AB)
Past: EQ,EQ2,SWG,MXO,Vanguard,PotBS,PS,CoX,GW,RG:TR,L2,Aion,AA,LotRo,DDO,EVE,WoW,CO,STO,P1999,FE,MCO,TDU,RIFT(beta),Perpetuum.
Present: ...
Future: TDU2,TOR,GW2.
Wishlist: Motor City Online Remake.
I would server hop until you find the one that is not childish. I play on the Rathe and I always found groups and helpful people, like my Guild the LPOK.
There has always been a bad element in the EQ community since laungh. The game almost breeds friction amongst players.
Most online games/forums are getting that way though.
Try the FV server.
RP guilds and folks tend to be much more mature and serious abou the game itself.
Good Hunting
lol yeah arsholes are nothing new in EQ.
I was mostly nice, long as the help I was being asked for didnt consist of "gimme platz Kthxbye"
Tho I know I ripped into more then a few noobs for getting me killed lol mainly learn your class or gtfo.
I have no doubt that current EQ is far less friendly than old EQ. They're increasingly adjusting its difficulty to WoW levels; meaning you'll attract as brilliant and mature gamers as those who play WoW.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
I agree the EQ community has never been that friendly. Its very competitive. EQ players were groomed that way. Blame it on game design.
First we had to compete with each other for spots in a group. Then we have to compete against each other in areas to "camp". Then we have to compete against each other on rare spawns. We then compete against each other on DKP/bid wars.
You can only be KSed, or have your "camp" invaded so many time before you suspect that everyone will try to do that to you. So please forgive someone for being suspicious, but in a world were no laws are governed you can't blame a person for being paranoid.
Also, like the other poster said. The only people left playing are the elitist raiders who have literally shaped the game into the mess its in now. They've had everything non-raid related nerfed, expansions are aimed and balanced specifically for them, and they still whine that the game is too easy with their Weapon of Game_Imbalance. Yes, some things are indeed better left untouched.
I just love how no matter what forum I read, someone is always blaming Warcraft for the problems in their game. As if Everquest was some magical land where everyone has always gotten along.
I always thought WoW kids were more tolerable that the kill-stealers, raiders in EQ.
Everquest invented Kill Stealing
Everquest invented tons of kiddies playing
Everquest invented no instancing so all the worlds retards could train you
Everquest invented bored kiddies running around being jerks
WoW community is 100 times better! I can enter an instance and they can't!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
They are probably a bit less forgiving then they once were.
I still have no problems when i pop back into EQ ever year or two. You will run into your jerks but they are everywhere. You will run into alot of good helpful people also.
Sawfd you are right about a good number of things. You can run into good people as well as jerks and that goes for any game.
Also like you said, EQ didn't invent any of those categories, but it sure did bring them to new heights. The community was awesome and rotten at the same time. Take the old EQ Vault forums for example. OMG the drama that oozed from that place made anything in any other game forum tiny by comparison of volume. It was so horrible that the mods drove the overwhelming majority of posers away when they started enforcing the forums rules.
UO was so bad with kiddies, griefers and such they were driving away more players than were joining. Much of that carried over into EQ for a good while.
My point is there are lots of bad people in many games. They really stand out in games where they are given the tools to annoy others. Training, kill stealing, trade scamming, etc. I find it funny what people consider a bad community now. Telling some chuck norris jokes is bad? *shudder* Can someone hold my hand and protect me from the chat spammers please?
The only games I have found that have a more mature community are games that are in a some what near death or failing state where the players feel bonded together to save their game. People seem a bit more close knit in their sense of belonging. Of course sound you be so unlucky to say anything negative about the game it shows just how fast that good community can devolve into everything to bad mouth about other games.
The current EQ community is by far the worst and least helpful I have ever experienced in an MMO. You can stand around for hours asking for people to group you. I recently spent 3 weeks on a trial return and experienced countless examples of a very self centered and greedy community remaining in EQ.
Seems almost anyone helpful has long since departed from EQ. Leaving only some greedy, self centered, gamers with way too much time on their hands and not enough concern for their dying game to assist anyone attempting to return.
Avoid EQ.
The worst stories I hear, and have seen myself, are about them.