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Best DPS class currently?
Zavael
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Hi all, I will be starting AoC soon so I was wondering which classes are currently doing the best DPS?
I would imagine it was meant to be one of the rogue or mage classes but I have heard the priests are doing great DPS at the moment?
So in your opinion and experience which class has highest DPS right now?
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No replies?
I just want your opinions from the PVP you have done so far, or the classes you have played. Come on chaps!
no one really knows yet. Thats probably why no replies. Game is too new and classes are being adjusted to give you any concrete answers. Just roll a class and see if you like it
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Melee for sustained PvE damage Barbarians and Heralds of Xotli do a lot of damage, barbarians are especially good at multi mob damage. Necromancers and Demonologists are currently faring pretty badly and Funcom are looking into fixing them as we speak. Rangers also do a lot of damage, as do Tempests (uber good AoE).
So you looking for basic PvE damage (instances and levelling), PvE damage for endgame raids, or PvP damage?
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I understand this, that is why I asked for peoples opinions on the classes in the games current state.
Then I dont know because the DPS changed from the last time I knew of a top DPSer (which was three days ago)
As I said, just roll a class you like and see if you enjoy it.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Tough question! I guess in the end I want the damage for end game raids and PVP.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. I played barbarian in beta and they seemed to do great damage then. Glad to hear that is still the case. I do quite fancy HoX as well though.
How is the Dark Templar faring? I would imagine assassin is pretty high DPS?
The reason I don't just roll them and test myself is that i'm not getting the game till 16 June due to real life commitments, and seeing as I can't read the official forums I am keen for information to make my class choice with.
Thanks for the responses guys.
I'll give you a breakdown on my impressions of DPS-capable classes during about the first 20 levels:
Conqueror - Heavy armor. Some group buffs. Best DPS of the "soldier" classes. Not the best, but if you want to wear the heavy stuff, this is the way to go.
Tempest of Set - Light Armor. Healer class. DPS here mostly comes in the form of the lightning strike spell, which is an AOE attack that hits pretty hard. The healer classes aren't really meant for DPS, but if you want a hybrid, this is your way to go.
Barbarian - Proabably at the top of the list when it comes to DPS. They are built around frenzy and serious damage. You can go dual-wield or 2-handers, and there is still some debate ongoing about which is best. Though I think the scale is currently tipped in the favor of 2-handed being best.
Assassin - Also very good DPS. Doesn't seem to quite get up there with the Barbarian, but these guys are master of the stealth attack. If you're more concerned with PvP and sneaking, then this might be the better choice.
Ranger - Pretty much the best ranged DPS. Considered overpowered by most considering they can kill so well from a distance. Seem to have good survivability and awesome ability in PvP.
Herald of Xotli - Very good burst DPS. All close range. Close range AOE (cone attack). These 2-handed sword-wielding casters are an interesting hybrid. They are however restricted to wearing cloth armor, making them very killable and the very epitome of the "glass cannon". Powerful attacks but quickly dispatched.
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If your main concerns are DPS, then those would be the choices to consider. However, nearly all of the classes are great at holding their own and have high utility in group situations. I would suggest staying away from Demonologist for the time being, as they seemed to somehow slip through the cracks when it comes to balance. They have some direct damage capabilities, but can't stand up to other classes and their pet is completely useless (though it looks neat). Necromancers can also be great to play, but if you aren't good at utilizing pets and DoT spells, then you might want to shy away from it. I would compare it to the warlock class in WoW, only more challenging.
So, hope that helps, and good luck in game!
Ranger.. So far TOTALLY broken. I am playing a necro and well I can't take many melee hits but a ranger 2-3 levels lower then me and 2 shot me. While other class can be managed.
Thank you so much that was exactly the kind of constructive and well reasoned response I was hoping for.
Still so hard to choose a class though! I guess that must mean FunCom have done a good job designing them!
Any Dark Templars out there? How you getting on?
Actually, I have played a Dark Templar to level 21. They are an interesting class also. The response from the higher level players in that class has also been good. Here's a bit of a brief description on their qualities:
- Heavy Armor
- Sword and Shield
- Decent DPS, but not as much as some other melee classes.
- Some buffs/debuffs.
- The most important ability: LIFETAP
The lifetap ability, which gets augmented by several skills, gives the DT health every time they damage an opponent. There is also a lifetap ability/skill that distributes health to the entire party when the DT does damage. They make rather good tanks/off-tanks, and provide some good support. In terms of PvP, they are pretty good, though their strength lies in the fact that they are quite hard to kill. They're not the damage-dealers that many other classes are.
Nice write-up and addition, brihtwulf. Interesting read, and very helpful for many, I think. DPS is the most common role (common MMO group: 1 tank + 1 healer + x DPS), and it's good having a basis for deciding which one to try out.
Thanks for that addition. I do like the idea of the Dark Templar... hmmm tricky!
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
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The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
actyaly barbarian hits alot harder then assassin even on single targets.. especialy in pvp cuz we dont have reach and all you have to do is move an inch away and our combos will miss... also assassins have no cc unless you count feats.. then u get a single stun/confuse at lvl 60 if you go corruption you get a knockdown at around 30 with lotus tree but it doesnt work in pvp
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
actyaly barbarian hits alot harder then assassin even on single targets.. especialy in pvp cuz we dont have reach and all you have to do is move an inch away and our combos will miss... also assassins have no cc unless you count feats.. then u get a single stun/confuse at lvl 60 if you go corruption you get a knockdown at around 30 with lotus tree but it doesnt work in pvp
I am including feats in my response, sorry if I didnt post it. Assasin does do single strongest melee dps comming out of stealth however hands down, after stealth breaks and regarding multiple targets, the barbarian hands down does the most dps. Barbarian is not as good as the Assasin though as far as stealth goes, and he doesnt have as much of a +damage out of stealth attack. I have compared both of these running stealth at full skill level 1-30. You are right though once out of stealth, the barbarian does hit much harder then the assasin ONLY when using a 2-hander however. Assasin will always out-dps an a barbarian single target, as long as the assasin starts in stealth.
Any details on how the Herald with its "hybrid melee based dps" compared in damage output to the Barbarian and Assassin? The cone attacks of the Herald seem to give quite a blast at early levels at least. I haven't played Assassin at all though, and my Barbarian is only 15 atm.
The Herald does cone dps like the barbarian when using the fire based spell. So in some aspects you can argue he does AOE damage, however, he doesnt have the hitpoints the Barbarian has and is alot squishier as far as his feats and armor choices are concerned. Putting that aside, the Barbarian will out dps the Herald in certain circumstances, in a long fight the Barb will do more dps then a Herald, in short quick fights the Herald may do more early game. It also depends where you spend your feats, because a 2 handed Barb can dish out alot of AOE damage to alot of units, where as dual wielding barbs usually focus more on single target. If you want a complete comparison Herald of Xotli + transformation = Barbarian dps output. However when not using the Heralds Transformation, he just doesnt do as much dps as the barbarian, My herald could kill things fast, my Barb even faster because he crits alot more is capable of stronger stealth attacks and doesnt need a casting bar for the fire spell.
The early levels Ranger's are lethal, but as they progress they tend to get owned by the other classes.
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
This may change next week
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
This may change next week
This may change tommorow lol, all too true my friend xP
P.S. Please take into consideration that this game just launched last week. So the classes may undergo balancing or tweaks. So far I feel safe to see my annalysis is mostly accurate. If you dont think it is..tough? LOL jk, just let me know what you guys feel is different and we can discuss it!
I have played every class except the following, Priest of Mitra,Guardian. Event hough I havent played those two classes my friends have, and I have seen them played so I know how their mechanics work.The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
actyaly barbarian hits alot harder then assassin even on single targets.. especialy in pvp cuz we dont have reach and all you have to do is move an inch away and our combos will miss... also assassins have no cc unless you count feats.. then u get a single stun/confuse at lvl 60 if you go corruption you get a knockdown at around 30 with lotus tree but it doesnt work in pvp
I am including feats in my response, sorry if I didnt post it. Assasin does do single strongest melee dps comming out of stealth however hands down, after stealth breaks and regarding multiple targets, the barbarian hands down does the most dps. Barbarian is not as good as the Assasin though as far as stealth goes, and he doesnt have as much of a +damage out of stealth attack. I have compared both of these running stealth at full skill level 1-30. You are right though once out of stealth, the barbarian does hit much harder then the assasin ONLY when using a 2-hander however. Assasin will always out-dps an a barbarian single target, as long as the assasin starts in stealth.
i have both assassin and barbarian 40+.. at 45 my asssins "backstab" wich is the from stealth attack.. does about 800-900 dmg.. on my barbarian the same attacks does between 700-800.. thats not a big differance.. and once the combat starts barbarian out damages assasin in all aspects dual wielding and 2h.. the dps differance on our weapons is part of the problem.. the barbarians dual weild weapons have 50+ dps.. on the low 40 weapons.. on my daggers i have 41.5 dps... thats with the +5 dps bonus i got from my gear.. and a barb 2h weapon has almost 70dps on it.. not tho all these have the same attack speed.. so his swords/axes swing the same speed my daggers do..
as it was just released i expect this to change a bit.. but Right Now Barbarian does more dmg to both single and multiple targets then a assassin can do even counting the from stealth attack.. yea we get a bonus 100-200 dmg on the first attacks you can make that up with a barb in 2 swings.. Easily..
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
AoC is around 35% downloaded from steam. This info will help out a lot when rolling for my first toon.
Thanks.
The best casting dps hands down is (Demonologist)
The best AOE melee dps is (Barbarian)
The best single target dps is (Assasin)
The best tank overall (Guardian)
THe Best group support tank (Dark Templar)
The best DPS tank (Conquerer)
The best buffer/healer dps melee (Bear Shaman)
The best healer is (priest of mitra)
The best Support healer/Nuker hybrid is (tempest of set)
The Best long range melee dps is (Ranger, traps from current gameplay are 1 minute CD)
The Best dot spells are from the (Necromancer, micro management class) (2nd best magic based dps)
The best hybrid melee based dps is the (Herald of Xotli) (most combat skills require a 2 handed sword or club, this is a mage type class)
AoC is around 35% downloaded from steam. This info will help out a lot when rolling for my first toon.
Thanks.
I wouldn't base anything off from that information, its mostly wrong.
With 1.05, the classes will balance alot differently also than what we currently have on Live.